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http://i.imgur.com/yY9Ullg.jpg --144.122.250.186 (talk) 15:58, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is this Tank Man too?

Is the person that appears on a bicycle on 2:50 the same Tank Man? The reporter says he is. But I can't find anywhere else that he tried to stop the tanks as well on a bike? http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/videozone/nieuws/buitenland/2.33381/MV_140514_TIE_2_feiten%2B%2B — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.4.154.85 (talk) 14:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk · contribs) 21:33, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Will start soon--Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk) 21:46, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A few comments:

One fact is referenced in the body and the lead picture. It only needs to be referenced in the body.
More adequate referencing needed
Shouldn't the parameter in Citation #15 be CBS News?
Expand Citation #17 and #31.
Four dead links.
First image should have a fair use rationale.

--Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk) 15:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

- I'll have to fail this because no action within ten days. Feel free to renominate.--Tomandjerry211 (alt) (talk) 17:54, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Date of the event?

User Stuartfranklin was convinced that the photo was shot on 4th June, not on 5th as currently stated in the article, and we can quote a recent book http://www.phaidon.com/agenda/photography/articles/2016/april/05/how-stuart-franklin-took-his-tank-man-photograph/ for that. According to the People's Liberation Army at Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 article's timeline, that means the tank man was blocking the tanks while they are entering the square instead of leaving it. --Skyfiler (talk) 21:38, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

As someone who has visited the site a number of times in person, it is clear by the location of the landmarks in the photos and video that the tanks are indeed leaving T-square, not entering it. The Square itself is seen in the background with with the large Chinese museum visible to the upper left of the photos. I can't speak to the date, but even a scan of Google Earth can verify that they the tanks are heading east after departing from the northeast corner of T-square. Vespid (talk) 21:38, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Should the location and direction be clarified?

Currently, the article states "The incident took place at the north edge of Tiananmen Square," which isn't quite true. The incident took place almost a block away from Tiananmen square, which is important because the tank column had actually left the Square, not heading towards it or along it as many public discussions and articles elsewhere misrepresent (or at least leave unclear). I realize it is somewhat implied, but should it be stated more clearly here that the tanks had left the square and are heading away when this confrontation occurred? Since we don't know what they had just done, where they were going, or what they were about to do, it seems to me that being as specific as possible based on what we do know is important. To anyone that has actually been to the site, the actual location and direction is clear in the wider photos and vids of the event. Vespid (talk) 21:59, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Western media censoring??

I find it ironic that this iconic video support that china military was not that evil and tried not to squash him.

However most westerners back then only saw the part of him standing up to the tanks in their media, and quite a few swear they definitely saw him got killed afterwards. Yet the part where he climbs on the tank, allegedly has a chat with the driver and climbs down. That part of the video has never been shown in western mainstream media. It's been cut short before he literally climbs on the tank and the tanks clearly did not want to squash him.

Should we include the fact that when the video was shown to the western world, the public weren't shown the second half of the video clip. Because it makes china look reasonable. Or neigh?? Give me your thoughts 120.18.180.210 (talk) 17:28, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]