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Neutrality
This article was probably created by the inventor of technology or somebody related to it. There are almost no criticism, a lot of self sources. Technology is only in the development state for now. The way of fund raising for developing this system uses controversial MLM (pyramid selling) marketing strategy and has some attributes of frauding (unrealistic promises, high company capitalization etc.) Russian article was deleted and I believe that at least the neutrality and criticism sections have to be added to this article. Dron007 (talk) 01:26, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- "There are almost no criticism, a lot of self sources"
- But this is not a reason to turn it to pure blatant Hoax and WP:G10 that is strong argument for WP:SD
- "system uses controversial MLM"
- is nor a reason to enforce a “fraud”, “ponzi” and other blaming labels --George Marshal (talk) 21:07, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Posted yesterday, unverified user George Marshal is argumenting against a concern made about the page in October 2016 (with no actual references to backup these claims). This user is completely uninformed about recent discussions and appears to be posting from the top of the page without checking the dates or the content being questioned. Please stop posting unverified and inappropriate claims which are irrelevant to far more recent discussions. The actual 'SkyWay Group' article also includes no single accusations of SkyWay being a 'Ponzi sceheme' or a 'fraud'. This is a talk page where accusations like this are checked for verifiability anyway. Please don't copy WP:policy if you can't tell the difference between the talk page and the actual article and you can't read essential information like dates of posting. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 09:26, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- User George Marshal is argumenting just against the current WP:SYNTH and hoax version of the contribution as well as against its WP:ADVOCACY by proponents of SkyWay project defamation, authoritatively operating by “accusations”, “do’s” and “don’t’s”--George Marshal (talk) 11:51, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Posted yesterday, unverified user George Marshal is argumenting against a concern made about the page in October 2016 (with no actual references to backup these claims). This user is completely uninformed about recent discussions and appears to be posting from the top of the page without checking the dates or the content being questioned. Please stop posting unverified and inappropriate claims which are irrelevant to far more recent discussions. The actual 'SkyWay Group' article also includes no single accusations of SkyWay being a 'Ponzi sceheme' or a 'fraud'. This is a talk page where accusations like this are checked for verifiability anyway. Please don't copy WP:policy if you can't tell the difference between the talk page and the actual article and you can't read essential information like dates of posting. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 09:26, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Currently there is almost no links to SkyWay sites and self-published materials. Is it time to remove Self-published template message? Dron007 (talk) 01:58, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- However the last version is criticism only, linking just to warnings without any neutral descriptive analysis. Investment raising is really using MLM component but as an optional additional income way for impatient investors. Rapid development of the technology shows this fundraising trick be effective.
- Herewith the company actively grapples with any promises like huge income, “becoming billionaire” claims etc. that are side-effect of over zealous referral program participants.
- Almost 100 % negative warning based article needs to be deleted or added by real neutrality and subjectiveness. PVO777 (talk) 20:36, 2 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PVO777 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- If it's true that MLM is used as an 'optional addition', it still doesn't explain, elucidate or excuse why they use this practice at all. Impatient investors? And you don't provide us with any actual documentation supporting this claim anyway. Please backup such claims with verifiable references and sign your conbributions to this talk page. Otherwise it is difficult to justify including them. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 16:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC]
- For clarity: the user PVO77 is claiming that MLM practices being used to fund SkyWay projects is caused by "overzealous referral program participants" as an "optional addition for impatient investors".
- Very sorry, but it looks like trolling deterioration rather than clarifying. User PVO77 meant that “(unrealistic promises, high company capitalization etc.)” groundlessly estimated as “some attributes of frauding “ were just overzealous referral program participants tricks that are strictly suppressed by company : https://skywayinvestgroup.com/en/news/imidzh-investorov-imidzh-skyway (sorry, such rules could be founded in self-published source only) PVO777 (talk) 20:36, 2 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PVO777 (talk • contribs) 19:34, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Please note that claims from unverifiable self-promoting sources cannot be considered. It has been documented in the past that Yunitskiy has attempted to distance himself from these practices. Yet documented references attest to a dedicated staff of network marketers employed at the company located in Belarus who post misleading information. See this verified link for detailed information about this aspect of company marketing: [1]. Self-published claims to the contrary by a self-promoting site are meaningless. Dishonest marketing practices are adopted by a dedicated staff of network marketers employed to disseminate misinformation. They are more than "overzealous referral program participants" but are staff members of the company. Verified counter-claims, however, would be welcome. But please stop posting this information if you can't verify it with reliable sources. It would help as well if you these contributions were signed. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 20:21, 2 April 2019 (U
- Very sorry, but it looks like trolling deterioration rather than clarifying. User PVO77 meant that “(unrealistic promises, high company capitalization etc.)” groundlessly estimated as “some attributes of frauding “ were just overzealous referral program participants tricks that are strictly suppressed by company : https://skywayinvestgroup.com/en/news/imidzh-investorov-imidzh-skyway (sorry, such rules could be founded in self-published source only) PVO777 (talk) 20:36, 2 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PVO777 (talk • contribs) 19:34, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- For clarity: the user PVO77 is claiming that MLM practices being used to fund SkyWay projects is caused by "overzealous referral program participants" as an "optional addition for impatient investors".
- ""See this verified link for detailed information about this aspect of company marketing: [2]. ""
- If it's true that MLM is used as an 'optional addition', it still doesn't explain, elucidate or excuse why they use this practice at all. Impatient investors? And you don't provide us with any actual documentation supporting this claim anyway. Please backup such claims with verifiable references and sign your conbributions to this talk page. Otherwise it is difficult to justify including them. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 16:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC]
- Bringing to wordpress this WP:RS/SPS cannot be open and even less be considered as a verifiable link. Unfortunately your criticism based on “warnings” includes no any fact based proof. --George Marshal (talk) 12:59, 13 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Marshal (talk • contribs) 12:44, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- Any user is welcome to post new valid published references which question the content of the article; such contributions are helpful and welcome. Questioning valid references, however, without stating what it is you disagree with in the article and how you can support your objections with new verifiable references, is unhelpful.–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 15:56, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
SkyWay & Investment
- Please note the name of this heading was changed to better reflect it's content. It was called 'deletion' but no actual deletion request was made and the discussion turned to matters involved with SkyWay and investment opportunities (and questions about the verifiability of claims SkyWay makes about the value of these shares). -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 09:51, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
I dont know how to delete this article following all the rules of Wikipedia, but String Transport aka SkyWay is a scam. That's why this article published only in english version of Wikipedia - it has very dubious reputation in Russia, Belarus and many other countries (in some countries SkyWay is illegal). All references are made to self-published sources, there is no critics at all. This company is using Ponzi scheme to 'crowdfund' or 'crowdinvest' the 'future transportaion system'. There is no MVP, there is no business plan, but SkyWay evaluates its intellectual property at 500 billion (!) dollars. Etc. 46.53.178.222 (talk) 19:57, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Again accusation without any justifications or links to reliable sources that the group of hyperactive opponents of SkyWay so insistently requires its supporters. Obviously there was about some older version of the article before its turning to the current project demonization. Following WP:G10 the article as currently drafted should be submitted for speedy deletion. PVO777 (talk) 20:37, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- The unidentified user PVO77 is posting inconsequential flowery accusations without any verifiable references as a reaction to discussions which are no longer extant. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 21:50, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Again accusation without any justifications or links to reliable sources that the group of hyperactive opponents of SkyWay so insistently requires its supporters. Obviously there was about some older version of the article before its turning to the current project demonization. Following WP:G10 the article as currently drafted should be submitted for speedy deletion. PVO777 (talk) 20:37, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Global Transport Investment & First SkyWay Invest Group self-published disclaimers
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Sincerely, talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 18:03, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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SkyWay Capital - Warning about Risks from self-published policy
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- Extended quotations of self-published SkyWay policy collapsed to facilitate the actual discussion. Zachar (talk) 08:44, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- I've been optimistic about similar project (SkyTran) but of course time takes time.[4] What is possible may be allowed to happen.[5] Buyer beware is a fact of the market in general, even in the cases where the company is not the fault.[6]
- The general public (the 99%) is often advised by their financial advisors (if they have one) not to get overly involved in high risk ventures. These may include Kickstarter, Indiegogo, biotechs, cryptocurrencies, private R&D firms, Robinhood, real estate crowfunding like RealtyShares, Fundrise, etc.. This is expressed notably clearly in the case the different rights of accredited investors (~ the 1%) vs. the middle and lower classes. However, as we are in the information age and we can be more efficiently informed (or misinformed), the middle classes and lower classes of countries now have greater ability than before to be informed about higher risk - higher potential gain/loss opportunities that some regulators wish were restricted only the very financial elites (whether their intentions may be good [protection of the lower and middle class from bankruptcy] or bad [restrict class mobility]).
- I for one believe that any investor should employ common sense, and those who do not employ common sense to difficult information as needed are certainly not entitled to the privilege that a successful investment should provide. Sincerely, talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 04:42, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- The business plan can be found here: Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd Business Plan 2014 Presented by Victor Baburin https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byz9kjE4StmkVmlJZ2tUSkM3NGc/edit (linked to by the website http://www.rswskyway.com/english-page/). talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 06:55, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- I would like to also note that the YouTube video output is impressively frequent for a transporation technology company:
- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-NcJ4R7_V8W_3nVkCAswbQ/videos
- Their "Minimum Viable Product" is more evident now in 2017 than it was a couple years ago back when their construction in Maryina Gorka had not started. Surely apprehension and risk is greater at the times when there lacks a functioning prototype. Now it is different, with anchors and track have been laid and rolling stock has been attached, not to mention the extremely transparent footage revealing construction operations, engineers, and networking with officials in power to affect implementation of transportation services on public coffers. Communication of such intimate information involving company operations and interactions with officials, produced and uploaded almost every other day, not to mention the publicly available engineering documents [7][8] should also be considered in addition to the overall risky (and sometimes sketchy) nature of venture capitalism in general. Of course, one must be careful in adding too much "positive" information in the article, per the rules of WP:NPOV. Duly-supported positive alarmism is unfortunately not usually appropriate for a general reference encyclopedia. But it is what it is. talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 06:55, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- To quote the article on Ponzi scheme:
Ponzi scheme (/ˈpɒn.zi/; also a Ponzi game)[1] is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate investments or business activities.
- The difference between a Ponzi scheme and referral commissions is that referral commissions can be a percentage of the "revenue/investment" acquired less than 100%. In contrast, for Ponzi scheme to work, the amount promised to be paid in "returns" (which are really promised "commissions") exceeds the "revenue/investment", which of course is unsustainable without any real business to support it.
- Now the only way to really know for sure how funds are allocated would be to do an internal audit of the company. It is irresponsible to insinuate fraud without concrete evidence. With concrete evidence is of course an entirely different matter.
- I recommend the following webpage (http://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/skyway-capital-review-russian-transport-funding-22-daily-rois/) on more details on this matter, which by the way is logical enough to concede that the comp plan alone does not prove a Ponzi Scheme, although while it does not entirely rule it out. It is understandable that some may accuse a company of fraud with or without full knowledge of the details. Sincerely, talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 01:30, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
- This more recent site on the business potential of SkyWay is viewable here: [9] This is an old discussion, but it should be mentioned here that this technical information about the claims that the company makes about the value of its shares are meaningless. I'm surprised no one has removed this blatant and lengthy reference to SkyWay policy. The SkyWay company has not attempted to officially register itself anywhere and it is therefore not permitted to sell shares to anyone. They have over-inflated the value of their company to 400 billion. They promises they make to 'investors' are entirely fanciful. You cannot prove that this is not true because of what they say about themselves. Check the more recent investment warning for a more balanced and recent discussion of the 'investment opportunity' of SkyWay. Whether or not its a 'pyramid scheme' or a 'Ponzi scheme' is irrelevant. But we do have verifiable references that discuss in great deal how they use MLM techniques to attract investors. And it is entirely illegal for them to sell shares anywhere. The only value you have is the value that they apply to the shares themselves which means they are worthless; they are not legally obliged to give you anything if they go bankrupt. See the 'Onliner.by' articles for detailed discussion of this, in particular the Borrenblog translation of the article "The SkyWay Project: the Fantasyland..." from 3 January 2018: [10]. A summary is included in the discussion below. If you want to present justifications of SkyWay investment please don't use SkyWay promotional material to do this.
The article is based on accusations against SkyWay Group. There is no actual information on the operation of the company. The article consists only of accusations, it seems suspicious. There is a lot of information on the technology company developed in previous version, now it became an “attack page”Eva Grun (talk) 10:19, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- You are correct Eva. The media has a bias aligned with the need to attract readers. Good news can do this, bad news more so. So good news is often filtered out by the media. Furthermore, Wikipedia has standards in some cases that are quite assymetric. Accusations usually don't require much official validation from competent authorities or formal communcations from the scientific academia. However when it comes to the technological merits of new transport the media cannot credibly confirm or deny since they lack in-house ability to judge claims on technological merit. When the media reports about doubt about a technology, they do so without showing engineering calculations demonstrating the level of feasibility of new technology. Also, critics of SkyWay who do have an engineering background clearly do not make it their job to find out how string transport can work. Rules of thumb and first impressions are generally employed by them, since when dealing with known technology it is not usually necessary to question fundamental intuitions of what works. As such, we do not see scientific works published by critics arguing against string transport. Instead, we have only "conclusions" from experts who, unlike school children in math courses, do not disclose their derivation. Furthermore, they make no requisite effort to solve the engineering challenges associated with innovative technology, nor do they have any attempts to manufacture an accurate physical model of SkyWay to support their criticism. Combine that with the basic need of innovative companies to protect intellectual property and trade secrets in respect to the specific innovations and you have a situation where the Wiki article on SkyWay Group has become completely negative-sided just as what occured for the article on Brilliant Light Power. talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 13:24, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Eva_Grun,Most part of the information added to the article is backed by 3rd party sources. We cannot use self-promoted materials from Skyway sites in this article. If you think some information should be added and have reliable sources just add it. But as we have a war of changes now it is better to reach consensus here first.Dron007 (talk) 16:44, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
After the article was changed is based on accusations against a non-existent company. Some of the accusations against existing companies, that are not actually in SkyWay Group, are outdated and refuted (Lithuania). The article is about non-existent company, there is no information on what the company produces. The accusations against it are obviously ambiguous. --Владимир Малафей (talk) 13:45, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Edit war from newly-created account is not constructive. If you think we need to provide more sources for the connection of Anatoly Yunitskiy with Skyway group of companies let's discuss it. See separate section(s)Dron007 (talk) 17:13, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Unfortunately it’s evident that the edit war had been started by 2 SkyWay haters Dron007 and Zachar Laskewicz who, for some reason, actively and insistently continue to defame the project by repeatedly referring to the same blogs that seems to be a SEO or/and troll job. However if you look closer into things you’ll see that "The dogs may bark, but the caravan moves on." 111 --George Marshal (talk) 19:29, 18 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Marshal (talk • contribs) 20:37, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Which blogs do you mean? There are no blogs used in the article as verifiable references; only published reliable sources. The link you included is to an unverified opinion about SkyWay. If there are blogs or opinions used in the article then you should list them as they should be checked and replaced with verifiable references.–Zachar (talk) 22:07, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Unfortunately it’s evident that the edit war had been started by 2 SkyWay haters Dron007 and Zachar Laskewicz who, for some reason, actively and insistently continue to defame the project by repeatedly referring to the same blogs that seems to be a SEO or/and troll job. However if you look closer into things you’ll see that "The dogs may bark, but the caravan moves on." 111 --George Marshal (talk) 19:29, 18 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by George Marshal (talk • contribs) 20:37, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Please note this third-party analysis of the actual potential value of the shares of SkyWay Group companies. You can view it here:[11]. It is based on real research and is certainly more valuable than the SkyWay self-published opinions and the unreferenced opinion here of banned sock puppets like Eva Grun:
- Skyway is not currently listed on any public exchange, so you simply buy only fictitious (if you want – virtual) shares. To put it more accurately, you will get a sheet of paper called a certificate in which the company confirms that you are booking and they reserve for you some stocks... According to SkyWay’s official videos, if you invest $ 4,000 (you will receive a million of “stocks” for the amount invested), you will earn a million US dollars because once the company enters the stock market, you will be able to sell one share for $ 1 (million shares = million USD)... If SkyWay ever enters the stock market, which I doubt, the value of one share will indeed not be 1 USD. The exchange rate determines demand and supply. Easily could happen that if they enter the stock market and people want to sell their shares and earn extra money, no one will be interested in them. At that moment their real value will be shown. What is more interesting, however, and what attracts people in that amount is that SkyWay guarantees the redemption of your certificates for $ 1. So if they enter the stock market and it shows that the real value of their shares is big fat zero, SkyWay guarantees to buy them from you.
These are really great promises, but unreal. They will never enter the stock market, and if they do, they will undoubtedly fail to fulfill their obligations. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 09:59, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- SkyWay is not currently listed on any publish exchange because IPO didn’t take place yet. There are no “papers” or “stocks” to “buy” as you’re trying to state above. Nor any promises about future prices of shares. Otherwise please provide any official reliable verifiable source confirming your claims different from self SEO promoting blogs. Also please ask to provide such sources the bloggers whose “coverages” you’re referering here to. SkyWay is using convertible loan 112 113 for investment raising. It’s too soon to speak about stocks in their full sense as the project is being on its development stages 114
Fortunately critics of project can present nothing grounded except their empty “unreality” claims and old outdated “warnings”. --George Marshal (talk) 21:15, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for these references. The first link ([12]) is advertising that makes elaborate and misleading claims. An enthusiastic investor's report includes statements like "I would not forgive myself if I would miss it as the ROI can easily be more than 10 000% So at the beginning of September 2017 I added SkyWay to my portfolio." It ends with a list of fabricated lies about the company's achievements, such as the places pre-orders have been made. The equity net link([13]) doesn't even contain investment advice, just flowery claims about SkyWay like "Efficient and environmentally friendly SkyWay - Transport of new generation that meets the standards of the 21st century and able to take up to 50% of the world market of transport, to improve the quality of life and make our world a better place." It doesn't provide any scientific support for these exaggerated claims let alone sound economic advice about investment products. The third link ([14]) may sound like a reputable discussion of financial terms. But unfortunately its contents has nothing to do with the products SkyWay investmen is offering to the public. This is not informed information that can be seen as anything but advertising, propaganda and misdirection. User Kmarinas86 is right in that you have to show caution before investing money. Inform yourself before you invest: this company is offering to sell you products that it has not applied permission anywhere to sell to you. It absolves itself in its own paperwork from any liability and guarantees as you can read in the disclaimers above. It sells worthless pieces of paper that mean little more than what they tell you themselves about them. Convertible loans? Pre-IPO shares? In terms of SkyWay Investment terms like this are meaningless buzz words used to tempt inexperienced investors who don't know any better that are entirely inapplicable to what SkyWay is allowed to sell to you: nothing. Good luck with any investments you make but I advise you personally to not choose anything SkyWay is offering as you will lose your money. Zachar (talk) 00:33, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
- Dear User:Zaxander, who and/or what authorized you to groundlessly blame as well SkyWay project as third party sources and opinions on it by self-emotionally negatively colored epithets like “misleading” , “fabricated lies”, “flowery claims”, “propaganda and misdirection”, “worthless pieces of paper”, “meaningless buzz words” and others? Do you have any proof of your words? Or definitive promise like “you will lose your money” is given by you in what capacity? As prophetic? Or are you having reputable sources links to? And again: nothing is being sold by company at the moment, the convertible loan using for investment of the technology being on stage of its creation is officially stated and used by crowdfunding foundations of the Group. --George Marshal (talk) 18:52, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Who is the author of that "third-party analysis"? Here is the citation from that page: "Hi, my name is George and I currently work from the comfort of my home. I work for PR agency as the seller of ad. Besides that, I do on-line marketing for eshop, but I also make this website. I like to search for legal opportunities to make money online, and then I publish them at this website. It is my hobby..." He is not even a financial analyst or an employee of an investment company. I don't think that this "third-party analysis" is a reliable source, so we cannot use this text in the article. Andrew-Postelniak (talk) 17:24, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- In addition, this George H. - the author of the "third-party review" - did not even indicate his surname, so this article is anonymous and cannot be considered as a reliable source. Andrew-Postelniak (talk) 17:32, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking this. Yes I agree we cannot use this material in the article - but this wasn't actually the intention, but to provide a balance to the SkyWay promotional material. It would be great if you could provide a better resource on the topic of SkyWay investment because it's obviously important to this article. But new references have to be better supported than the reams of direct postings from the SkyWay website which is still posted above. It would, however, be great to have more articles by economists on how the SkyWay Group works. Please post links here concerning the investment opportunity or even better create a new topic below specifically addressing this topic. But please don't include paragraphs directly copied from the SkyWay website. You can even create a summary of the SkyWay content with a link to the SkyWay site if you think it's significant. But hundreds of words copied from a promotional website is misleading. If you contextualize it and provide a link, no problem. But paragraphs of SkyWay promotion is hardly necessary here.–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 19:02, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- An extended discussion on SkyWay investment opportunities in German: [15] and [16]. –Zachar (talk) 19:56, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking this. Yes I agree we cannot use this material in the article - but this wasn't actually the intention, but to provide a balance to the SkyWay promotional material. It would be great if you could provide a better resource on the topic of SkyWay investment because it's obviously important to this article. But new references have to be better supported than the reams of direct postings from the SkyWay website which is still posted above. It would, however, be great to have more articles by economists on how the SkyWay Group works. Please post links here concerning the investment opportunity or even better create a new topic below specifically addressing this topic. But please don't include paragraphs directly copied from the SkyWay website. You can even create a summary of the SkyWay content with a link to the SkyWay site if you think it's significant. But hundreds of words copied from a promotional website is misleading. If you contextualize it and provide a link, no problem. But paragraphs of SkyWay promotion is hardly necessary here.–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 19:02, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Warnings of financial regulators
This list includes the countries whose national banks or financial regulating agencies have issued some type of warning about investment in the SkyWay Group. Request for help to keep this list up-to-date with a link to the actual warnings. Please note that financial regulations are considered primary sources like legislation. Verifiable links which help make a company notable need to include secondary references which verify these primary sources. A good example below is the Greek regulatory warning. First link is to a verifiable source (EconomyNews247) of a primary Greek regulatory warning from the HCMC. We need to find secondary sources for each of these warnings. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 16:26, 5 March 2019 (UTC) - Publication of the German news feed geldthemen.de which includes links for many countries which have released warnings about companies in the SkyWay Group. Some of these countries, including Sweden and Malta, have not reached this list yet: [17].
- Because people have started posting lengthy additions to this list of financial regulators who have warned the public against investment in SkyWay Group companies, I've put each warning into an individual subheading so it is easier to differentiate information about them.
The International Organization of Securities Commissions (OICV-IOSCO) in its list of companies in 'investor alerts' has released two warnings about companies in the SkyWay Group:
- [1] Sky Way Invest Group, Skyway Capital, AskiiHolding
- [2] Sky Way Invest Group, https://superblu.wordpress.com
You can view the site here and chose 'companies' from the search column of the left and then access these two different listings individually: [18]
BELGIUM (FSMA)
the wording of the most recent FSMA warning released 17 May 2019
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The Financial Services and Markets Authority (FSMA) warns the public against the activities of First SkyWay Invest Group Limited ('SkyWay Capital'), a company that offers investment instruments to the public in Belgium. Despite its previous warning, the FSMA continues to receive questions from consumers about Skyway Capital, indicating that this company is still active in Belgium. SkyWay Capital, is offering its shares to Belgian investors. However, it is doing so without having published a prospectus approved by the FSMA. The company in question is therefore not allowed to offer its shares in Belgium. Moreover, the scheme proposed by SkyWay Capital exhibits the characteristics of a pyramid scheme. More information about this form of fraud is available on the website of the FSMA. Various foreign supervisory authorities have likewise published warnings about Skyway Capital: ●The Lithuanian supervisory authority (Bank of Lithuania(link is external)); ●The German supervisory authority (BaFin(link is external)); ●The New Zealand supervisory authority (FMA(link is external)); ●The Greek supervisory authority (HCMC(link is external)); ●The Slovakian supervisory authority (NBS(link is external)); ●The Italian supervisory authority (Consob(link is external)). The FSMA therefore advises against responding to any public offers of investment instruments issued by Skyway Capital or persons connected with that company and against transferring money to any account number it might mention. |
- primary source: https://www.fsma.be/en/warnings/first-skyway-invest-group-limited-skyway-capital
- primary source: https://www.fsma.be/en/warnings/first-skyway-invest-group-limited-skyway-capital-0
- secondary source: https://www.gva.be/cnt/dmf20170922_03087744/financiele-waakhond-waarschuwt-voor-piramidefraude-van-skyway-capital
- Article in Dutch entitled "Financial guard dog warns about the pyramid fraud of SkyWay Capital"
- “The Financial Services and Markets Authority (FSMA) warns the public against investment offers promising exceptional returns and based, either visibly or otherwise, on setting up a system of recruitment, membership and enrolling other members. These offers promise unrealistically high returns, although they may appear most attractive.”
Questions from George Marshall about the validity of the FSMA warning (Belgium) - 31 June 2019
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BULGARIA (FSC)
The financial regulatory agency in Bulgaria (FSC) shared the warning from the Bank of Lithuania in 2014. In its list of warnings, it is company 81.
You can view it here: [19]
the CZECH REPUBLIC (CNB)
- primary source: https://www.cnb.cz/cs/dohled-financni-trh/ochrana-spotrebitele/ochrana-spotrebitele/upozorneni/Verejna-nabidka-cennych-papiru-spolecnosti-Euroasian-Rail-Skyway-Systems-Holding-bez-prospektu/
- verified link: https://primechaniya.ru/home/news/noyabr_2017/avantyuristy_iz_skyway_ohotyatsya_za_dannymi_sevastopolcev/:::The link to “Primary source” brings to 404 error. The“Verified link” can be so in no case because this source is a blog. The first wrong blaming here is attribution of long-term passive income promises. No such guarantee can be found on the official sources of the companies meanwhile there is list of recommendations for partners who promote the project: “When creating promotional materials it is recommended:
- Strictly keep the facts reported through the official information channels of the SkyWay group;..."
- ..."Avoid “screaming” headlines, distortion of facts, attribution to real persons of words or actions that do not apply to them, promises of guaranteed super profits or permanent passive income and other techniques, described in more detail below.” … Rules
- Then there is again unverified list of non-existing companies and mentions of Stock purchase. However there is no information about SkyWay IPO or stock market presence even now. And again “promises” that cannot be found on any SkyWay official page, refers to “financial services” and again the same non confirmed trolling rewritten from other similar blogs that are absolutely irrelevant for WP. --George Marshal (talk) 14:14, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
ESTONIA (EFSA)
- REQUEST FOR INFORMATION on the warnings from the regulatory agency in Estonia
- At the moment we only have the FSMA Belgium reference stating that Estonia is one of the countries who has released a warning about investing in SkyWay Group company shares. I've been to the 'Estonian Financial Supervision Authority' (EFSA - Finantsinspektsioon) and I can't find anything there. This could be a mistake and therefore should be removed, but I'm requesting here that someone finds an actual reference we can use. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 14:20, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- I managed to find it there using Google's search by site 'site:www.fi.ee skyway'. There are other warnings (Belgiam, Italian) including Estonian one: [20] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dron007 (talk • contribs) 19:28, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- Great! I couldn't find this - thanks.–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 19:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
GERMANY (BaFin)
2 February 2019 the BaFin released a second warning, this time with regards to "Skyway Capital" registered in Saint-Lucia. The title of the warning translates to "Skyway Capital Inc: Evidence of missing sales prospectus". Although typically sparse on information or detail, this warning does, however, have multiple secondary sources:
GREECE (HCMC)
- verified link:
- https://economynews247.ibhs.gr/epixeiriseis/17219-epitropi-kefalaiagoras-choris-egkrisi-oi-diafimiseis-tis-skyway-invest-group
HUNGARY (MNB)
Hungary's regulatory agency MNB shared the Lithuanian and the Belgian warnings about Skyway.
- primary source: https://www.mnb.hu/kulfoldi-figyelmeztetesek?word=skyway
INDONESIA (OJK)
- verified links:
-Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:34, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
ITALY (CONSOB)
- For Italy we have updated warning dated 19 Feb 2019: [21] Dron007 (talk) 19:39, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- Here is a new good source about Italy. [22] It could be used at least as a secondary source for Italian regulatory warning. Dron007 (talk) 05:59, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
LATVIA (FKTK)
-Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 15:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
LITHUANIA (LB)
BANK OF LITHUANIA warning released 23 August 2014
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The Bank of Lithuania has recently noticed intensified activities of the SkyWay group, encouraging investing in this group’s projects. Our advice is not to be drawn in by the proposals of SkyWay, as this may lead to investors losing their funds. As early as in 2014, the Bank of Lithuania established that the company Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd, registered in Great Britain, was publicly offering its securities without necessary permits in Lithuania. To protect the interests of investors, the Bank of Lithuania has issued a public warning, transferring information on the Company’s illegal actions to the Prosecutor General’s Office. In addition, it has advised the Financial Market Supervisory Authority of the United Kingdom thereof. Nevertheless, companies within the SkyWay group or their representatives keep issuing invitations, in various ways, to finance unclear projects, promising "quick and easy benefits". It is now being proposed to invest in the projects of the private limited company First SkyWay Invest Group Limited through acquisition of its shares. Information for potential investors is being distributed through social networks, via invitations to project presentations, providing information on the Company’s website in Lithuanian, etc. The Company is presented as a prospective start-up company, which collects funds from potential investors (as stated, not publicly and only from professional ones) to finance its projects. The Bank of Lithuania warns that it has issued no permits for First SkyWay Invest Group Limited to publicly offer its securities in Lithuania or provide related services. No decisions or permits of the supervisory authorities of other European Union countries, granting the right for the companies of First SkyWay Invest Group Limited or their representatives to raise funds in Lithuania, have been received either. Be careful or you may lose your money. |
primary source: https://www.lb.lt/en/news/bank-of-lithuania-warns-skyway-activities-in-lithuania-illegal verified link: https://www.delfi.lt/verslas/verslas/lietuvos-bankas-oro-traukinius-zadancio-a-junickio-veikloje-sukciavimo-pozymiai.d?id=65880462
MALTA (MFA)
The Maltese financial regulatory agency MFA shared the Italian CONSOB warning.
You can view it here: [23]
NEW ZEALAND (FMA)
- primary source: https://fma.govt.nz/news-and-resources/warnings-and-alerts/skyway-capitalskyway-group/
- verified link: https://www.financemagnates.com/forex/regulation/new-zealands-fma-adds-skyway-capital-to-its-warning-list/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaxander (talk • contribs) 16:31, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
NETHERLANDS (AFM)
The Netherlands shared the Belgian warning 22 September 2017.
NORWAY (FINANSTILSYNET)
The Norwegian financial regulatory agency FINANSTILSYNET shared the warnings of Lithuania and Belgium.
It shared the Lithuanian warning on 15 October 2014 in relation to the activity of "Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd." . You can view it here: [24]
It shared the Belgian warning on 5 October 2017 in relation to the activity of "First Skyway Investment Group Limited". You can view it here: [25]. Zachar (talk) 19:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
SLOVAKIA (SNB)
- primary source: http://www.nbs.sk/sk/dohlad-nad-financnym-trhom-prakticke-informacie/upozornenia-a-oznamenia/upozornenia-na-nepovolenu-cinnost-subjektov/upozornenie-narodnej-banky-slovenska-na-cinnost-spolocnosti-first-skyway-invest-group-ltd Dron007 (talk) 19:45, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- primary source (EN): http://www.nbs.sk/en/financial-market-supervision-practical-info/warnings/warning-list-of-non-authorized-business-activities-of-entities/nbs-warning-about-the-activity-of-first-skyway-invest-group-limited
- secondary reference: https://burrenblog.wordpress.com/2019/02/06/first-skyway-invest-group-ltd-slowakische-nationalbank-gibt-warnung-heraus-slovak-national-bank-issues-warning/
- @Dron007 Good work! I translated the warning: it is very similar to the warning from the national bank of the Czech Republic. The list of countries which have issued warnings is actually getting very long - I changed the text to read 'many countries including...' so that this would be still be true for the unlisted countries. Do you think we should add 'Slovenia' and 'the Czech Republic' to the list? I'd be happy to do it, but I'd like to hear your opinion first (I put the Czech Republic warning there a few weeks ago and no one has either commented on it or responded too it). −Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 20:42, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I think so. It doesn't take too much space but it is official information we can trust. Dron007 (talk) 01:41, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
text of SNB warning about SkyWay activities in Slovakia
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NBS warning about the activity of First SkyWay Invest Group Limited 16. 01. 2019 | Information for Public Národná banka Slovenska (NBS) warns the public about the activity of First SkyWay Invest Group Limited, a company which has its registered office in the United Kingdom and which in Slovakia markets shares in a company called Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Holding Ltd. Národná banka Slovenska has not approved any prospectus for this investment, nor has any other supervisory authority of a European Union Member State notified NBS that it has approved such prospectus. A list of investment prospectuses approved by Národná banka Slovenska can be found here and a list of prospectus approval notifications received from supervisory authorities of other European Union Member States can be found here. Národná banka Slovenska continues to warn consumers interested in investing in the financial market to consider carefully before concluding a contract with a financial services provider. NBS recommends consumers to give thorough consideration to all risks and aspects of any potential investment, including their own financial resources, investment preferences, and ability to bear potential losses. |
SWEDEN (FI)
The Swedish financial regulatory agency Finansninspektionen shared the Belgian warning on their website. You can view it here: [26]
Disambiguation: Skyway in Chicago is actually something else
There is a Skyway in Chicago. But it's not actually a Russian company: it's a toll bridge. See a YouTube film about it here: [27]. There are lots of different Skyways around the world that refer to things like moving pathways at airports and actual companies who just share the same name. There's even a third-person platformer on steam called Skyway:[28]. But in a few places people are posting to SkyWay threads stories about how someone's mother had committed fraud on her grandschildren to help fund a 'Skyway' project in Chicago USA. They seemed to think it was the same one. I can't actually find any proof of such allegations. It seems unlikely despite all the current move towards deregulation happening there that our Belarusian SkyWay will end up in the United States in any real way. But with the current uncomfortable familiarity between the leaders of these great super-powers, anything's possible. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:19, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- I was checking links in AfD page and found that this one [29] lists several pages with another "Skyway Group" company not related to the discussed one.Dron007 (talk) 15:32, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- Important disambiguation from this link: "SkyWay Group Inc." is also a company name in the United States. Apparently "SkyWay Aero, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of the SkyWay Group, Inc., and is focused on all aspects of aircraft acquisition, brokerage and sales" [of aircraft]. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 18:43, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- SKYWAY is also an entirely unrelated university in Malawi. See it here: [30]
- 'Awana SkyWay' is a gondola lift system connecting Awana Transport Hub, Chin Swee Temple and SkyAvenue in Genting Highlands, Pahang, Malaysia since December 2016. It has nothing to do with the Belarusian SkyWay company. It has been reported in various places on the internet that motivated sales meetings have been held by SkyWay in Malaysia (to sell cryptocurrencies) so it's important to make this distinction. The monorail system is owned by 'Resort World Genting' and has nothing to do with the controversial Belarusian SkyWay investment group. -Zachar (talk) 09:10, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Important disambiguation from this link: "SkyWay Group Inc." is also a company name in the United States. Apparently "SkyWay Aero, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of the SkyWay Group, Inc., and is focused on all aspects of aircraft acquisition, brokerage and sales" [of aircraft]. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 18:43, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
SkyWay at trade shows and technology fairs
Include below information about all trade fairs where actual SkyWay technology had a stall of formally presented physical examples of vehicles. Information about the test site in Ozery, Moscow can be included in the already existing sub-heading above. Include below information about the 'Innotrans' trade fair or the Governmental summit in the UAE. Apparently there was also a presentation at a university in Indonesia. In the article in the future we should probably create a new heading for 'Technology proposals' or something similar. Please only include verifiable third-party assessments and not releases from either SkyWay or advertising from the trade fairs because we can't use them. You can just tell us when and where these events happened if you don't have the verifiable references. We want to know about them but extraneous links to them we can't use aren't really necessary. The individual entries below include the official EVENT title, WHEN the event was held, WHERE it was held and afterwards a description of WHAT actually took place with third-party assessments if you have found any. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 21:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
InnoTrans 2016
- EVENT: Innotrans 2016
- WHEN - September 20-September 23
- WHERE -Berlin Messe, Germany
- WHAT - "SkyWay from Belarus is conducting research into innovative travelways. It is focusing on raised carriageways made of pre-stressed concrete, from which mass transit passenger cabins would be suspended, enabling trains to travel at similar speeds to those of aircraft... InnoTrans is the world’s leading trade fair for rail transport technology and takes place every two years in Berlin."
-Zachar (talk) 20:41, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
RailwayTech Indonesia 2017
- EVENT: RailwayTech Indonesia Exhibition & Conference 2017
- WHEN - 29 March - 1 April 2017
- WHERE - JIExpo, Jakarta
- WHAT - "SkyWay Group of Companies' display stand at the RailwayTech 2017 lured the visitors of professional transport community and regular guests."
-Zachar (talk) 20:11, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Smart Cities India 2017
- EVENT: 3rd Smart Cities India 2017
- WHEN - 10-12 May 2017
- WHERE - Pragati Maiden, New Dehli
- WHAT - "SkyWay String transport was widely discussed among transport specialists after the Smart Cities Expo in Delhi recently, where Yunitskiy made a presentation..."
Future Cities Show
- EVENT: 2nd Future Cities Show
- WHEN - April 9-11 2018
- WHERE - Dubai World Trade Center, The United Arab Emirates
- WHAT - "Skyway String Transport was displayed to the Arab world at Future Cities Show."
-Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 23:25, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
SITCE
- EVENT: 3rd Singapore International Transport Congress and Exhibition (SITCE)
- WHEN - July 2018
- WHERE - City Solutions Singapore Expo, Sands Expo and Convention Centre, Singapore
- WHAT - "Skyway Technologies Co. from Belarus presented its vision of an elevated rail system that can also run a tram beneath it."
–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 23:20, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
EcoFest
- EVENT: EcoFest
- WHEN - August 2018
- WHERE - EcoTechnoPark, Marjina Horka (Belarus) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaxander (talk • contribs) 21:43, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Innotrans 2018
- EVENT: Innotrans 2018
- WHEN - September 18-September 21
- WHERE -Berlin Messe, Germany
- WHAT -
–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 08:51, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
World Government Summit
- EVENT: World Government Summit 2019
- WHEN - 9-10 February 2019
- WHERE - Dubai
- WHAT - "His Highness Shaikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai, accompanied by Shaikh Hamdan Bin Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Crown Prince of Dubai and Chairman of Dubai Executive Council, reviewed two models of the Sky Pods, a mobility system being tested by the @RTA_Dubai in conjunction with Skyway Greentech Co."
-Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 21:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
New video regarding SkyWay Group
SkyWay uploaded a video regarding their company structure, division of responsibilities, methods, and clarification of activities at http://rsw-systems.com/news/skyway-economy (Note: For use by editors though not in the article itself per Wikipedia guidelines) talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 17:46, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- The primary function of this film is to claim that the SkyWay Group is not a Ponzi scheme. It describes how shell companies within the SkyGroup redistribute investment funds. It includes futuristic music, computer-generated animdations and flow charts cross-edited with films of the InnoTrans exhibition as well as the EcoTechnoPark in Belarus and the governmental summit in Dubai. It explains the offshore location of these companies in tax havens like the British Virgin Islands is to "save funds". This and other more irregular aspects of their financing are explained as being typical of all large Belarusian and international franchises like Wargaming and MacDonalds. It describes in great detail about how the company uses crowdfunding and multi-level marketing to fund their projects and suggests that this is typical of all companies in some stage of their history. They unsurprisingly come to the conclusion that the SkyWay Group is not a Ponzi scheme. This is actually a sleek and well-edited promotional film. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 23:53, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Zachar Laskewicz: Such reaction is classic trolling and harassment. The film contains no advertising, call t action, offer, promise or any other promotional trick. There is detailed clear explanation of structure of the group, investment scheme, attraction, raise, use and even total amounts of investments, report on what has already been developed, built, acquired. Being published on SkyWay website it can be considered as official announcement of the company --George Marshal (talk) 09:47, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, being published on the SkyWay website it can be considered a promotional film that doesn't actually prove anything about the technology or the company, and a YouTube film is unverifiable in and of itself. I went to the trouble of looking at this film and describing its contents so that other people wouldn't have to and I gave an honest summary of its contents, but anyone is welcome to view it themselves and make up their own mind about it. I certainly didn't suggest that there was trickery involved and I conceded that it was well-edited. If you think I missed something out in my summary, you are welcome to add to this discussion below. But if you do decide to view this film yourself, you can't consider this a 'clear explanation of structure of the company' since it was created by network marketers who are presenting a biased view to get people to invest in shell companies registered in BVI and Saint Lucia. Zachar (talk) 20:53, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Film title: IS SKYWAY A PONZI SCHEME? The opening lines of the film are: "Is SkyWay a pyramid or not?" You're left wondering why they would make a film with such a title that directly implicates them as being involved in an investment scam. Probably because a sufficient amount of people are making these accusations and questioning why they have so many shell companies in offshore tax havens. Many verified references suggest that this company does redistribute the funds of investors who are encouraged and financially rewarded for attracting other people to invest [31] but these accusations are presently absent in the article. No one actually calls it a Ponzi scheme here. Zachar (talk) 21:26, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Zachar Laskewicz: Such reaction is classic trolling and harassment. The film contains no advertising, call t action, offer, promise or any other promotional trick. There is detailed clear explanation of structure of the group, investment scheme, attraction, raise, use and even total amounts of investments, report on what has already been developed, built, acquired. Being published on SkyWay website it can be considered as official announcement of the company --George Marshal (talk) 09:47, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Possible SkyWay images for use in the article
It would be obviously better to use images of the deconstructed test-site in Ozyery (Moscow) or from the EchoTechnoPark in Belarus but reliable sources of either of these places is lacking. It would be possible, however, to include an image from a reliable source. I found two images in an Australian article that could be considered:
- image 1 [32]
- Problem with this image is that although it is fake, it actually looks real. We know it is fake because SkyWay has never actually implemented its technology in a real place above the ground. This is photo from the Australian SkyWay promotor Rod Hook.
- image 2 [33]
- Perhaps this image is better because it is obviously computer-generated. There may be problems with this because although it is used on a reputable and well-known Australian news sender, it's still SkyWay publicity photo. Maybe the accompanying text could say something like 'computer-generated image promoting SkyWay technology'.
These are to date the best images I've found in the references that are actually referred to in the articles. Any proposals would be appreciated. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:21, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
This image is from the article in Slovenian. It is also interesting. It includes an image of the ring leaders of the SkyWay Group (Yunitskiy - bottom left), a computer-generated image of the technology (top right) and an image from a SkyWay Group promotional meeting (bottom right). It is sourced to the writer of the Slovenian article, Matic Tomšič :
- image 3 [34]
- Problems with this image could be that although the photo top left is almost certainly Kudryashov (a ring leader connected in multiple verifiable sources to SkyWay Capital) the article that uses this photo doesn't actually refer specifically to him straight away. It does directly name Yunitskiy and refers to this photo, and the only other person it discusses further on in the article is Kudryashov.
-Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:39, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
This image is from the InnoTrans technology fair in Berlin 2018. See the original site here:[35] Although it is promotional material, at least it is clearly exactly what it proposes as it was actually viewed as merely a stall at an exhibition. It doesn't either judge the technology or mislead by presenting an illusion. Although it is SkyWay promotion, this article is about the company; it is also no more than it suggests. It is actually what they presented at a technology fair.
- image 4 [36]
- The obvious problem is that this is a static presentation of the technology. But it is, nonetheless, a real presentation at an internationally recognized event. Maybe an accompanying text could suggest "static model presented at the InnoTrans 2018 exhibition in Berlin by the SkyWay Group of its technology".
-Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:50, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
This image is from the SITCE international transport exhibition in Singapore 2018. You can view the original site here. [37]. It does look like the EcoTechnoPark in Belarus. You can see one of the other tracks in the background (there are apparently 3).
- image 5 [38]
- The possible advantages of this photo are that it could be of the Belarus site but this could propose problems too: it doesn't really actually say where the image is from on the original site.
- Wherever this photo has been taken it clearly shows the model in move. The images from [101] look to be real and taken by independent publication. But there are more actual 227, 228, 229, 230, I think the editors won’t object. However it’s better to request them --George Marshal (talk) 14:18, 18 May 2019 (UTC).
-Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 23:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Images 4 and 5 look good but I don't know too much about Wikipedia policy about images. These designs are patented and photos are probably copyrighted. By the way there was an image in "String Transpor" version of this article. Maybe it is better just revert it.Dron007 (talk) 05:55, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007:The last time there were images was on this page from 16 February: [39] There was an unverified propaganda film with orchestral music of the Belarusian test site. This was removed for obvious reasons. The photo of the Ozyory site may have been removed because there were no verifiable sources for this test-site. I've made repeated attempts to find new verifiable references to this place to no avail. But they still use this image of the test site on the Norwegian page. I even asked them what their source was for this image and their information about the politician Lebed who provided the funding for this site. No one has replied yet. I think the best of the images I suggest is the one from the InnoTrans 2018 public transport exhibition. We just need policy information from someone who knows about these issues. Would we need permission to use it? Would we have to upload it first to commons and then use it? Advice on this from anyone appreciated. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 16:20, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zaxander: I see now. I thought there was a small image and that was a video preview. Dron007 (talk) 17:43, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007:You're right, though. I checked the guidelines. These images are unusable because someone else could have the copyright to them AND they are of a patented product. You can refer to them on the talk page, however. Maybe we could use one of them if someone can get permission from the copyright owner (and SkyWay). The image uploaded to commons of the site in Ozyory is a Wikipedia image so we can use that one again if we can find a verifiable reference to this site. That shouldn't be too hard? If anyone has their own photo of one of the SkyWay vehicles or the stalls at the exhibition we may be able to use it if you upload it to commons. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 16:54, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- We can also use one of the photos from the Onliner.by or tut.by websites after getting permission from the photographer. Photos that are taken in a place which the public has access to can be considered under 'fair use' policy. I think no one wants to talk about the Ozyory site because they didn't actually build any cars for the track; they put a truck on it. It was just a site for testing of the tracks, and explains why this is all you can see in the Wikipedia photo. Here's an image of the truck: [40]
- @Zaxander: I see now. I thought there was a small image and that was a video preview. Dron007 (talk) 17:43, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007:The last time there were images was on this page from 16 February: [39] There was an unverified propaganda film with orchestral music of the Belarusian test site. This was removed for obvious reasons. The photo of the Ozyory site may have been removed because there were no verifiable sources for this test-site. I've made repeated attempts to find new verifiable references to this place to no avail. But they still use this image of the test site on the Norwegian page. I even asked them what their source was for this image and their information about the politician Lebed who provided the funding for this site. No one has replied yet. I think the best of the images I suggest is the one from the InnoTrans 2018 public transport exhibition. We just need policy information from someone who knows about these issues. Would we need permission to use it? Would we have to upload it first to commons and then use it? Advice on this from anyone appreciated. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 16:20, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Images 4 and 5 look good but I don't know too much about Wikipedia policy about images. These designs are patented and photos are probably copyrighted. By the way there was an image in "String Transpor" version of this article. Maybe it is better just revert it.Dron007 (talk) 05:55, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 17:17, 23 March 2019 (UTC) If we can get permission from the writer of the TUT.BY article, we could use conceivable use this image:
- image 6 [41]
- Considering the 'fair use' guidelines and the fact that this is an independent image taken in a public place, if we have permission this image could be uploaded to commons and included as an illustration for the 'EcoTechnoPark' test-site. This is the actual website where there are a lot of good images: [42]
–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 20:54, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I see no point in using the old photo of 2001 from the test site in the Ozyory. First, this photo refers to the technology, not to the company (in 2001 there was no SkyWay group). Secondly, if only this old photo is added, it will create the wrong impression among the readers of the article about the state of SkyWay technology for today. So I think we need to find a suitable photo from Innotrans 2018.Andrew-Postelniak (talk) 10:09, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Andrew-Postelniak:I like the photo from InnoTrans as well. I think the photo I used was actually taken by a Hungarian blogger (I found it there as well) or at least a photo similar to the one from the SkyWay website I showed above. We can use it if we have his permission. I'm waiting for permission from the TUT.BY Belarusian newsfeed for the EcoTechnoPark. There are no longer restrictions on the patent, it seems, so permission from the photographer is enough. I think if we can upload these two recent photos, we could include them in the 'testing' and 'marketing' sections. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 10:31, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Andrew-Postelniak:This is the image: [43] This is the page of the Hungarian blogger Horvath Gergely: [44]. I sent a mail to him to request his permission to upload this image to Wikipedia commons which we can then use with a text like "The SkyWay Unibus displayed at the InnoTrans exhibition in Berlin in 2018".–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 11:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- I see no point in using the old photo of 2001 from the test site in the Ozyory. First, this photo refers to the technology, not to the company (in 2001 there was no SkyWay group). Secondly, if only this old photo is added, it will create the wrong impression among the readers of the article about the state of SkyWay technology for today. So I think we need to find a suitable photo from Innotrans 2018.Andrew-Postelniak (talk) 10:09, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- SKYWAY PATENTS ARE NO LONGER VALID - Apparently the patents placed by Yunitskiy in Europe are no longer valid, so we have no restriction on using patented images. Here's the translation of an article in German about what has happened to Yunitskiy's 'SkyWay' patents: "The European Patent Office espacenet.com has 14 patents filed by Anatoly Yunitsky filed between 1996 and 2013. Unfortunately, these important patents are invalid because Anataloy Yunitsky has failed to pay the main fees or renewal fees. The request to settle the fees are partly already several years back. But if we assume that the patents are part of the company's assets and the investors are shareholders in the company, much of the company's assets are currently unsecured and any savvy businessman can take advantage of them.[45]
- Again the same link to a wordpress blog that even cannot be opened. Please stop the WP:OR. BTW there is huge list of scientific publications and reliable proves http://yunitskiy.com/author/press.htm of the technology substantiality that should be mentioned next to the blaming only selection. They are really worth to dig deeply in and completely reedit the inappropriate troll contribution.--George Marshal (talk) 14:18, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- The Burrenblog link to the questioning of the Yunitskiy/SkyWay patent still opens fine for me. You can evaluate his contribution in your language of choice in the menu on the top-right of the page. Please provide an actual link to a verifiable source that describes this technology that is not by Yunitskiy himself. A single link to an actual reference is better than a thousand published by Yunitskiy who is obviously not a non-biased third party in all affairs relating to this company or the technology it promotes. If you think that trolls have influenced a single sentence in the article, you should tell us exactly what it is you disagree with. If the link to this article doesn't work, then just open the burrenblog homepage and type in 'SkyWay': you'll get a list of all the articles Arthur Van Burren has published about SkyWay. The Burrenblog articles now have an individual entry in the criticism heading. If you disagree with the contents of any of the articles you can bring your concerns up here. You'll also find individual links to each of these articles with a summary of their contents.Zachar (talk) 20:23, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Zaxander: Firstly, the link you specified [46] does not work (I cannot open it). Secondly, you confuse Yunitsky's patents and the patents of the SkyWay group of companies. The group of companies was established in 2013, and therefore it is obvious that it could not own any patents until 2013. In 2013, Yunitsky transferred all his intellectual property to this group of companies (he is the main owner). So now all patents are issued for a company from the group (depending on what is patented). And I also think that it is necessary to very carefully verify information of this kind, which can cause significant damage to the company's reputation, before making such statements that are not true.Andrew-Postelniak (talk) 13:07, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Andrew-Postelniak:I just communicated the information I found in the German article. It includes copies of the patents which it says are no longer valid. The German title for this article is "Skyway Patente obsolet – Patentgebühren oder Verlängerungsgebühren nicht bezahlt – Patente nicht gültig". You can find it on the Burrenblog which you can view here: [47]. You can type 'skyway' into the search field and all the SkyWay articles will appear. The intention was not to blacklist the company but to say that we apparently would be able to use images which displayed the patents because they were no longer valid. If you are correct then we may have difficulty using the InnoTrans photo I requested from the Hungarian Blogger. I just posted the translation; I didn't make these claims about the company. I'm enthusiastic to use the image of the trade fair but it has to be patent-free, it has to be of a public event and we have to have permission from the company. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 13:26, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zaxander: I think we can use this image [48] in the article. The same image is also used in this article [49], so probably there is no copyright on it. Their website also states [50] that images cannot be used for commercial purposes but can be used "for the purposes of private study, research, criticism or review". Andrew-Postelniak (talk) 13:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Andrew-Postelniak:I got email permission from the Hungarian blogger to upload this image. I uploaded it to Wikipedia commons and I will include it in the marketing section. If there are problems people can always remove it but it's better to have an updated image than one that is outdated.
- @Zaxander: I think we can use this image [48] in the article. The same image is also used in this article [49], so probably there is no copyright on it. Their website also states [50] that images cannot be used for commercial purposes but can be used "for the purposes of private study, research, criticism or review". Andrew-Postelniak (talk) 13:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Andrew-Postelniak:I just communicated the information I found in the German article. It includes copies of the patents which it says are no longer valid. The German title for this article is "Skyway Patente obsolet – Patentgebühren oder Verlängerungsgebühren nicht bezahlt – Patente nicht gültig". You can find it on the Burrenblog which you can view here: [47]. You can type 'skyway' into the search field and all the SkyWay articles will appear. The intention was not to blacklist the company but to say that we apparently would be able to use images which displayed the patents because they were no longer valid. If you are correct then we may have difficulty using the InnoTrans photo I requested from the Hungarian Blogger. I just posted the translation; I didn't make these claims about the company. I'm enthusiastic to use the image of the trade fair but it has to be patent-free, it has to be of a public event and we have to have permission from the company. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 13:26, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zaxander: No, maybe some patents are not longer valid but still they have new patents for design of their vehicles. I don't think it means that we are not allowed to use any photos though.Dron007 (talk) 05:21, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Wikimedia Commons shows warning for the images that were uploaded. If you are claiming fair use for any of these images, they would need to be uploaded on Wikipedia as Wikimedia Commons only accepts free images. --CNMall41 (talk) 02:26, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- I sent the permission I received from the photographer to Wikimedia commons permission for the SkyWay InnoTrans Berlin photo. But even if they finally give permission, I'm perfectly happy with the new one; thanks for whoever found and/or uploaded this image. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 13:39, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zaxander: I see that the photo of high-speed unibus has already been deleted by an administrator because the permission received by OTRS agents has been written incorrectly. Please note that the author of this photo has to provide a permission not for usage on Wikipedia/Commons, but declare a free license for his photo which allows anyone to reuse it for any purpose, including commercial purposes and creation of derivative works (see Commons:Licensing). For example, the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license is allowed here, but licenses with tags -NC and -ND aren't. You should ask him to add license information on his website on the same page where this photo is used, or send an e-mail with license declaration to OTRS himself (see e-mail templates). Also, there is no permission for another photo from tut.by. I doubt that this news agency would allow you to use their photo under the Creative Commons Attribution License, because their terms of use declare that you should not remove TUT.BY watermark from a picture. This term violates a principle of free modification and creation of derivative works, so this photo is not acceptable on Wiki without a special CC-BY permission from a photographer. 2A00:1FA0:4692:6076:35AC:A987:ADF4:6D05 (talk) 22:17, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Please note: I got advice from Wikipedia commons on how to get permission for uploading the InnoTrans 2018 trade fair image but while I was requesting this information someone else posted another photo of the same event. I requested after that they delete the photo because the blogger who had given me permission to use it in Hungary started advising me to invest lots of money in SkyWay through him and I decided it would be too risky to send the special request form to him.
- @Zaxander: I see that the photo of high-speed unibus has already been deleted by an administrator because the permission received by OTRS agents has been written incorrectly. Please note that the author of this photo has to provide a permission not for usage on Wikipedia/Commons, but declare a free license for his photo which allows anyone to reuse it for any purpose, including commercial purposes and creation of derivative works (see Commons:Licensing). For example, the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license is allowed here, but licenses with tags -NC and -ND aren't. You should ask him to add license information on his website on the same page where this photo is used, or send an e-mail with license declaration to OTRS himself (see e-mail templates). Also, there is no permission for another photo from tut.by. I doubt that this news agency would allow you to use their photo under the Creative Commons Attribution License, because their terms of use declare that you should not remove TUT.BY watermark from a picture. This term violates a principle of free modification and creation of derivative works, so this photo is not acceptable on Wiki without a special CC-BY permission from a photographer. 2A00:1FA0:4692:6076:35AC:A987:ADF4:6D05 (talk) 22:17, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- I've revieved image sources of files that have already been uploaded on Commons and noticed that you can take necessary images from the official SkyWay YouTube channel. Most of their videos are licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License, which is fully acceptable on Wikipedia and Commons. It has a lot of videos from EcoTechnoPark and exhibitions, where you can make screenshots of rolling stock and test tracks and upload them to Commons. For example, here you can take a screenshot of a high-speed unibus U4-362, and there you can make photos of rail vehicles in technopark: [51], [52], [53], [54], [55]. You can find more of them if you search on this channel. Also, you can already use File:U4-621_test_ride_in_Marjina_Horka.webm which shows a prototype pod in motion. This video is licensed under CC-BY 4.0 and music is in a public domain. Also it doesn't contain any advertising or doubtful content like promotional or doubtful texts or speeches, so I don't see any problem with usage of this video in this article. 2A00:1FA0:4692:6076:35AC:A987:ADF4:6D05 (talk) 22:17, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- This is great advice. I think it would be misleading to include a film with orchestral music but there is nothing to stop us using a screenshot if what you say about the copyright here is true. The problem with using a film for the EcoTechnoPark is that it gives the impression that this place has received more coverage in the media than it actually has. I've been searching for months and I haven't been able to find any international anecdotal postings about this place let alone third-party scientific endorsement. There has been a recent translation of the onliner.by article in German, and I'm checking previous translations of this and the tut.by articles to collect published facts on the EcoTechnoPark. I'm currently working on trying to draft a couple of new sentences to extend the description of the EcoTechnoPark based on these verifiable references. After I've finished this and there is a workable text, I can try to tackled the problem of an image. Anyone else is welcome to try to post an image in the meantime but please don't post a film which has been downloaded from the SkyWay website then uploaded to commons even if you are allowed to do it. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 00:20, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 00:20, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- I uploaded five screenshots from the Wikipedia commons SkyWay film File:U4-621_test_ride_in_Marjina_Horka.webm. I propose we use this one after the EcoTechnoPark text has been updated: –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 13:55, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- I uploaded 5 photos as recommended above by taking screenshots from the Wikipedia commons film. These photos, however, were recently removed. I don't know why. The original source was certainly mentioned and they were included for awhile as part of the Wikipedia commons images now viewable with a recent link from the SkyWay Group article page. I still have these screenshots, however, so if anyone wants to have an image of the EcoTechnoPark prototypes, please advise me how to do it correctly and I could always try again. Please don't place the SkyWay film as it is misleading and has inappropriate orchestral background music; if readers really want to see it they can view the film already uploaded to commons and now connected with a link to the SkyWay Group site.–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 15:04, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- I uploaded five screenshots from the Wikipedia commons SkyWay film File:U4-621_test_ride_in_Marjina_Horka.webm. I propose we use this one after the EcoTechnoPark text has been updated: –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 13:55, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Kmarinas86:These are great photos - thanks for posting them! Do you want us to chose one of them or do you really think we need two here? Thanks again for these new photos. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 10:53, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Taken together, the pictures include all the "completed" tracks. If it were even possible to include all tracks in one picture while still being easy to see, then I would have had no problem just having one picture for it. talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 11:05, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
SkyWay in Foreign Countries
Australia
Australia started negotiating with SkyWay thanks to promotion from Rod Hook who used to work for the Australian Government.
The following article mentions the project planned at Flinders University in South Australia: [56] -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 15:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
The following references were suggested in the March deletion discussion based on questioning the notability of the SkyWay Group:
- Let's take Australian project, cancelled now. It was covered by popular news sites of Adelaide: [57] [58] [59] [60] (some problems opening last one now. Text is available here: [61]). So it has "significant coverage in multiple reliable independent secondary sources". Sources for Lithuania, India, Indonesia, UAE present in the article. Whole articles are about SkyWay, it is not just one-line mention. Of course most information exists in Belarus and Russian sites. Many of them independent like Onliner, Tut.By mentioned in the articles. There are many not mentioned yet like [62] or Popular Mechanics: [63] (it is placed on Skyway partner site but it is PDF of the printed version of the magazine. I cannot find it placed in the other place now.) Dron007 (talk) 21:00, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
-Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 16:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- On 29 November 2018 the SkyWay Invest Group held a motivational meeting in Perth, Western Australia. Read about it here: [64] -Zachar (talk) 09:30, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
This article published in February 2019 in the Advertiser (Adelaide newspaper) has detailed information about good reasons for the eventual postponement of the proposed project at Flinders University:
Warnings mount as it all looks like pie in the Sky-Way (The Advertiser) 23 February 2019 - Adelaide, Australia
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Warnings mount as it all looks like pie in the Sky-Way (The Advertiser) 23 February 2019 - Adelaide, Australia THERE was an event held in Dubai last week called the World Government Summit which was attended by Belarussian inventor and engineer Anatoly Yunitskiy. He is the brains behind the SkyWay concept, which was proposed as a transport solution for Adelaide’s streets. Think autonomous trams in the air, travelling at 150km/h. The SkyWay concept was given credence in Adelaide because it was backed by the well-regarded former Transport Department chief Rod Hook. But after a couple of years of spruiking, the idea died in August when Hook conceded Yunitskiy had taken the concept to the United Arab Emirates. But it’s possible it was a lucky escape for Hook. So far Belgium, New Zealand, Lithuania and Estonia have issued warnings to potential investors not to get involved with SkyWay. “The scheme proposed by SkyWay Capital exhibits the characteristics of a pyramid scheme,’’ Belgium’s Financial Services Markets Authority said in a statement. SkyWay’s website is an interesting read. Like many toogood-to-be-true investments it offers remarkable returns. “Increase your investments up to 1000 per cent or more in 3-5 years,’’ it says. SkyWay also claims to have $400 billion in pre-order contracts. An email to SkyWay asking it to detail the contracts went unanswered. Initially, punters are asked to stump up money in a crowd-funding exercise. The promise is the initial investment will become shares when SkyWay lists on the London Stock Exchange. Hook told Off the Record he had lost no money and didn’t believe it was a pyramid scheme. He also believed the engineering was sound, although he thought Yunitsky lacked “commercial sense’’. |
- Another article in the Adelaide newspaper, The Advertiser, was published on 17 May 2016 and was called "SKY-HIGH DREAM TO GET CITY MOVING: Ex-transport chief Rod Hook unveils $13m elevated, driverless SkyWay train plan for Flinders University". The original is here [65], but you can't read the text unless you have a subscription to the newspaper. Someone was kind enough to publish the text of this article here: [66]. It contains detailed information about the SkyWay Australia negotiations which took place in 2016 in Adelaide at the Flinders University. -Zachar (talk) 15:09, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Letter of Support from Rod Hook and Associates
- http://yunitskiy.com/news/2017/news20170124_en.pdf
- http://yunitskiy.com/news/2017/news20170124_en.htm
Letter of Support from MBM
- http://yunitskiy.com/news/2017/news20170125_en.pdf
- http://yunitskiy.com/news/2017/news20170125_en.htm
Letter of Support from Aurecon
- http://yunitskiy.com/news/2017/news20170127_en.pdf
- http://yunitskiy.com/news/2017/news20170127_en.htm
talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 15:04, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for these links. It should be noted here that all projects in Australia were indefinitely postponed in August 2018. All these letters confirm is that SkyWay self-published these letters which may or not have actually been written by Rod Hook and associates.Zachar (talk) 19:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
From BehindMLM, participant in discussion thread Roslyn: Rod still has a Skyway website that promotes it (even if it is old).
Besides the obvious content, the address and contact is the same of that of his company Rod Hook and associates and is of the same distinct style as that website, so clearly belongs to him. Extract from this website –
- skywayaustralia.com.au/bio
- Sky Way’s leading Co-founders, Rod Hook and Maree Wauchope, were so impressed by Sky Way’s revolutionary approach to rail, they immediately wanted to see Sky Way systems built in Australia... They co-own the Australian company with Dr Anatoly Yunitskiy the inventor of Sky Way technology, and Global Transport Inc, Sky Way’s leading Financiers.
Sky Way Transport Australia was founded in October 19 2015, as a private company, according to the ASIC website.
Maree Wauchope is his partner at Rod hook and associates, and also has worked in Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure as an Executive Director and is has been listed as a managing partner and marketing specialist for Skyway on some sites.
Also on the site is their version of why the sudden departure of Skyway from Australia:
- "The Australian partners of Sky Way Transport Australia have now been advised that Dr Anatoly Yunitsky has entered into arrangements to further develop his Sky Way technology within the United Arab Emirates (UAE). As a result of this arrangement Dr Anatoly has decided to postpone any work within Australia to build and operate a system until such time as he has concluded his UAE commitments.
So just postponed according to Rod and Maree. He’ll be back to build his Australian flying Choo choo, he’s just busy pretending to build Dubai’s one at the moment.
Skyway also use his new recent government appointment, as validation of an Australian project and to recruit as seen here on Skyway Facebook page April 2019: –
- ‘#SkyWayTransportAustralia Congratulations on new Government appointment. Rod Hooke is in a key position with his new appointment for the next 3 years to facilitate a SkyWay System in Australia.
- We need to finalise the 15 stages of SkyWay ASAP so we can get started who wants more information about becoming a co-owner of this technology? #hitmeupformoreinfo
If he’s trying to distance himself he really needs to do a better job. Zachar (talk) 10:37, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
Belgium
The financial regulatory agency FSMA released a warning in September 2017 about the activities of the SkyWay group - in particular SkyWay Capital and the First Skyway Invest Group Limited - in Belgium who were not permitted to sell its investment products as they had not applied for the necessary prospectus to do so. The public was further warned that this company showed the characteristics of a pyramid scheme and that they would be ill-advised to invest money in SkyWay projects. You can read the warning in English here: [67]. SkyWay Capital are still planning motivated sales and recruitment meetings in Belgium. Recent meetings were held in Antwerp [68] and Brussels [69]. Herman Vertez is listed as the top SkyWay Capital consultant at the Brussels event; Kristiaan Van Den Vyver in Antwerp. Publish any verified commentary on these events which took place in April and May 2019 below. –Zachar (talk) 14:41, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Czech Republic
Here's an official notice from the Czech government that Eurasian Rail Skyway systems - a member of the SkyWay group - is selling shares there without a license. The notice says that "Public offer of securities of Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Holding [is] without prospectus." Here's a translation of the wording of the warning:
- The Czech National Bank informs the public that the investment in the securities of Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Holding, ISIN VGG322291094, is publicly offered in the Czech Republic without the Czech National Bank, or the Supervisory Authority, in accordance with the provisions of Section 36c of the Capital Market Undertakings Act another Member State of the European Union, subject to the conditions laid down in Section 36f of the Capital Market Undertakings Act, a prospectus for that security has been approved and published.
Can anyone confirm this warning? A link is included below. It is dated 2016 which is years before other warnings issued later and which are already included in the article. If someone can confirm this I'll include information about this warning in the 'other countries' section on financial irregularities. http://www.cnb.cz/cs/spotrebitel/ochrana_spotrebitele/upozorneni/upozorneni_euroasian_rail_skyway.html –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 23:03, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- That is absolutely realistic. Memorandum of investor was issued in 2015 or earlier and companies like Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Holding Ltd (ERSS), GTI are mentioned there. Now they have updated version but you can find there documents dated 2013-2015 (pp.55 and later). [70] Dron007 (talk) 03:00, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. But I included a warning from the state government about the unregulated sale of shares of this SkyWay company. Do you think this 'warning' is realistic? What on earth do you actually mean? You included reference to an entirely unverifiable SkyWay self-published document, so I don't see how this can help prove a governmental warning from a Czech source. It sounds like you either misunderstood the English translation or you want to make an entirely different point.
- Not sure what you mean. I though that by "it seems hard to believe that this could be true in 2016" you doubt that there were Skyway companies in 2016. That's why I provided a document that shows that these companies have been existing since 2013 or so. Some of them may be checked in official sites. Need to check. Dron007 (talk) 16:10, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- So sorry if that wasn't clear. I'm going to change the wording so it's clearer what I'm looking for. The talk page is to check facts before including them in the article; new issues should be checked first for accuracy by other users. I found the reference to a specific regulation from the Czech Republic warning people not to invest in one of the SkyWay group companies because they had no permission to sell shares there in 2016. Other countries like Japan and Lithuania issued warnings years later. But I translated this regulation directly from Czech with Google translate. What if I was wrong? What if I implicated the Czech government in a scandal they were not involved with? It would absolutely ruin my reputation which is already not great because I've included so much passion in my warnings that SkyWay is a scam (which I regret deeply in retrospect). So to be specific, if you know a Czech person who can find out if what I found on the internet is actually true, that would be great. But any additional references you find would be appreciated - and in fact it's great that you take the time to post here at all and keep an eye on what people are doing and I thank you for it. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 18:30, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean. I though that by "it seems hard to believe that this could be true in 2016" you doubt that there were Skyway companies in 2016. That's why I provided a document that shows that these companies have been existing since 2013 or so. Some of them may be checked in official sites. Need to check. Dron007 (talk) 16:10, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Although the document you include is unusable for anything in itself and doesn't have anything to do with the Czech warning it does provide a lot of information about the different companies and where they are registered. Thanks also for your support to the name change support with interesting arguments. Post any valid references you think I should see on your talk page or here and I'll take a look at them - it doesn't matter which language they're in. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 13:50, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Estonia
This article entitled "Who wants to be a millionaire? The Heavenly Railway lures Estonian people" concerns SkyWay Capital operations in Estonia. The original can be viewed here: [71].
The article was published in the Estonian news sender "Eesti Ekspress" on 7 November 2017 and its subheading translates to:
- Skyway Capital, a "new-generation" transport company of Russian origin, is looking for courageous (gullible) financiers from Estonia...
- Unfortunately you can't see the whole article because it appears you have to have a subscription to see it. Does anyone have access to this text? –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:55, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Here follows the text to this article which documents aggressive sales techniques adopted by SkyWay and details concerning these techniques and the Estonian financial regulatory warning.
Who wants to become a millionaire? The Heavenly Railway lures Estonians (Eesti Ekspress - 7 November 2017)
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Kes tahab saada miljonäriks? Taevaraudtee peibutab Eesti inimesi Who wants to become a millionaire? The Heavenly Railway lures Estonian people By Toivo Tänavsuu (7 November 2017) RIDING RICH! Skyway Capital, a "new-generation" transport company of Russian origin, is looking for courageous (gullible) financiers from Estonia, allowing them to have a serving of milk and honey. People and goods are moving smoothly, logically, and with a gentle twitch on the cobweb of rails and ropes built into the sky as a source of water. No natural pollution, traffic jams, accidents or stress. You are also lazing at the side of a pool without worry, enjoying holidays and delicious cocktails and thinking: the planet is cleaner and here is my hand in the game! How does it sound? About this future is announced by Skyway Capital, a company that develops cableway technology. A witty company has made a commitment to save the planet Earth and harbors simple investors as co-owners of the world's largest transport company. THE PERMITS ARE FANTASTIC For example, it is written that Skyway shares can now be purchased at a discount of up to 500 times. The company's website has a black-and-white promise: the investment has grown at least 1000 times over three to five years. "Lifetime Dividends" will come to the forefront of any project based on this technology that is being implemented anywhere in the world. Moreover, "independent experts" have already estimated the value of Skyway technology (still on paper and futuristic sketches) worth $ 400 billion! As it is serious, the need to make an investment decision immediately is emphasized. Because the future is bold, and the sooner the project comes, the bigger the bonuses will be. Here are also some examples of the investment world to continue to inspire. For example, the Skyway website writes how the value of a virtual eyewear manufacturer Oculus Company, like a rocket, has risen from zero to $ 2 billion in a year and a half. Also in 1976, Steve Wozniak and Ron Wayne founded Apple. Wayne had no faith in the venture, and he sold his stake with $ 800. Today it would be worth 50 billion. Or, in 1998, David Cheriton invested $ 100,000 in Google and is billionaire today. If you believe in the Skyway website, you can be a millionaire in the future with your Estonian average salary or pension. The company compares itself with Google and Apple. With no money to invest, Skyway shares can also be bought in installments! However, no mats can be accessed by the company on the investor's online environment. To do this, you must register and also have an "opener" inside. Entering the environment, a picture of all kinds of investment packages opens, one more appealing than the other. Diesel is simple: the more shares you buy, the better the price. The fatter the package, the cheaper the shares will be, and the more securities will be added as a bonus. You can start with a few hundred euros. For example, in a senior package, you get 32,000 shares for $ 400 a month, pay $ 50 a month, and if you believe in Skyway's promises, it's worth thousands in a few years. Separate packages are for the elderly, students, and for example parents to secure the future of their children. None of the risks involved in investing are even spoken in half a word. Skyway confirms that there are already thousands of projects planned, and the Skyways are supposedly planned in Brazil, India, Australia and Europe. Skyway was founded by an engineer, inventor and genius from Belarus ¬ Anatoly Yunitskiy. He came up with the idea 40 years ago when he was in the space industry. He thought it would be nice to ride along the heavenly railways (rails or ropes), up to a few dozen meters above the ground. The whole headaches of building on the ground (all that provokes resentment for Rail Baltica, for example), the poles that hold the skies in the sky can be quite far apart. Yunitskiy started quietly running the case. But at one point the people came together, opened the wallets and supported. In a few years now, EcoTehnoPark has been set up in the former land fill near Minsk, where the first railways are stationed and tested. The plan is to finish next year's tests and get the technology certified. Then there is a big explosion, and like a dam, a global mega-business is triggered. There are already thousands of projects in the SKYWAY APPROVAL, eagerly awaiting the end of the tests. The heavenly railways are said to be planned in Brazil, India, Australia and Europe. One of the biggest treasures of the day - to believe in the Skyway ¬ home page - will start on the London-Berlin-Moscow-Tokyo route - a 60 billion euro deal. In addition, it is about to travel around Australia, or Melbbourne-Sydney-Brisbane (€ 80 billion). Rails are also planned to be transported from Moscow via Minsk and Vilnius to the Kaliningrad and even the United Arab Emirates. There is no flaw in this technology. At least Skyway does not name them. Such transport is fast, inexpensive, green, safe, the route lasts for a hundred years and is usable everywhere (passing "through" mountains and rivers). At a speed of 500 kilometers per hour, you get half an hour from Tallinn to Tartu. And you enjoy what scenic views from there ... OCTOBER LAHATI SKYWAY's World Saving Mission at Tallinn TV Show "Matrix". Mihkel Liivakant and former deputy mayor of Tallinn, Vladimir Maslov, as a visionary, were nominated as guests. The Skyway website calls Maslov a team member. Both visitors welcomed the company to heaven and found that estisEstonia could be the first heavenly railroad, for example, in Tallinn, on Laagna road or on the harbor - city center - Tartu maantee. Stay tuned, Elon Musk, with your vacuum tube Hyperloop! Liivakant points out that even the Dalai Lama has given his positive energy to Skyway, and the first pilot project is set in his residence. As Skyway drives flies to people in many countries, it has allegedly had hundreds of thousands of investors who have contributed hundreds of millions of euros to the project. Vello, one of Skyway's financiers, was already exhorting Spring to not miss the best investment opportunity in life. "The world is bold and the risk is giving life a spice!" He wrote. According to Vello, he invests as much personal money as possible in Skyways and aims to get a total of one million shares. The man himself, along with the bus coach Estonians, went to Belarus to see the experiments in the summer, and after that, recommends that all family members and acquaintances "take away the packages". "The daughter was enough for three minutes - she did the package. At the moment, the shares are still in cents, but soon this thing will be spread around the world. Cashier investors will come in and you will probably be able to buy your shares in installments.” HOW TO CREATE A FIRMA INTO THE CONTACT NUMBER ON THE SOURCEE.EU FOR THE ESTONIA, Heli replies that he is working as a good advisor to Skyway. He has previously acted as a healer, provided training to "connect with higher frequencies with oscillating energy" to "transform his world as a co-creator." Heli says he has already invested "quite a lot" in SkyWay, taking "millions of shares". He says that every investment entails a risk, but he considers it "small" for this project. According to Heli, from 3000 to 4000 people have made investments in Estonia from Skyways. "There are businessmen, ordinary people, retirees, families have secured the future of their children." The woman talks thoroughly about developments in Belarus, where the speed of up to 102 km / h is already certified and there is currently a 22-kilometer track to test even the fastest sky trains. Actually, INSENER JUNITSKIL is even bigger with Skyway. If the entire planet Earth is covered with heavenly rails, it is planned to build a "funicular" to Earth's near-field or space! "But before Mother's land is done," the visionary Maslov holds back the euphoria. Investor Vello also admits that "real money comes from space". So Skyway's big plan is to build a few million kilometers of railways first on Earth and distribute the dividends from these investments into the construction of space routes. ESTONIAN FINANCIAL REGULATORY AGENCY HAS WARNED ABOUT SKYWAY Skyway came to the fore at the beginning of this year. The Inspectorate received a complaint from a senior woman who was aggressively offered the opportunity to invest in Skyways at a café. It was suggested that the investment can also be made for loan money. Kristjan-Erik Suurväli, Head of the Market Supervision Division of the Financial Supervision Authority, says that the company has no right to publicly raise money because it has not registered an investment prospectus. Skyway has also been warned by financial supervision in Lithuania and Belgium. There have been clear signs of a pyramid scheme - the benefits for the old are at the expense of new entrants. Maybe every investor builds his own happiness on his yard, adding new people to the system. In Lithuania, Anatoly Yunitskiy had a bigger annoyance a few years ago when he first wanted to set up a test area there, but was forced to leave the country on charges of money laundering and fraud. The trials continued in Belarus and Yunitskiy’s disciples see the conspiracy that happened. |
This article was published in Latvian on the attempts of Yunitskiy to gain funding from Estonians: [72]. The article was published on 5 November 2015 and a translation will follow if it provides new information not included in other references. Note that the title of this article translates as follows:
- A Russian entrepreneur is trying to seduce Estonians with a dubious 'future transport' project rejected in Lithuania
-Zachar (talk) 21:22, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Ethiopia
According to this article, SWIG (Sky Way Invest Group) held a sales meeting to officials in Addis Ababa (Ethiopia): [73].
- "Sky Way Investment Group (SWIG) has pitched its ideas of a commercial cable train in Ethiopia – a globally new technology which is said to be less space consuming than the traditional railway construction. SWIG proposed the idea of installing the transportation facility in Ethiopia and the way of financing to Dagmawit Moges, Minister of Transport (MoT) as well as to officials at the Addis Ababa Transport Bureau."
A verbal agreement was apparently made. The company intends to get the general public to finance this project:
- "The company intends to finance the development through public private partnerships where the general public will be able to invest in it."
Sound familiar? This has entered the article as a new 'negotation' but it is nothing of the sort. A motivated sales meeting followed by a verbal agreement is not the same as a negotiation. It is just a verbal arrangement after the Sky Way Invest Group make another sales pitch where they get officials to agree because the funding will come from small investors. If they enter the negotiation phase and sign formal documents, it can be included in negotiations and we need more than a single reference. I propose moving this to another instance of a 'motivated sales meeting or lecture' presented by the SkyWay Group. Zachar (talk) 09:25, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- The following text was removed from the article until there is confirmation that they have actually entered formal negotiations.
- In May 2019, SkyWay was reported to have proposed the construction of an aerial tramway in Addis Ababa. Ethiopian transportation officials were said to have shown interest in the idea, going to the extent of verbally agreeing to provide land for a pilot line.[Abdu, Brook (18 May 2019). "Company plans cable train for Ethiopia". The Reporter (Ethiopia). Retrieved 20 May 2019.]
Ghana
Skyway Capital has extended its operations into Ghana to attract unsuspecting small investors. They are represented on the social media.
A recruitment meeting was held 1 June in Accra at the following location: [74]
Please publish any information you find on the activities of this company in Ghana. Recent developments on social media have to be considered as well as press articles because social media is how this company Is extending its marketing into this country. Zachar (talk) 09:11, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
India
Still unsourced article on the SkyWay scandal in India that is still to be verified. It's in English and was published in 'The Times of India' July 21 - 2017
- BJP leader attacks minister over skyway skyway project
- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/bjp-leader-attacks-minister-over-skyway-project/articleshow/59690474.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaxander (talk • contribs) 22:56, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Advice requested: because of changes to title heading, the Dharamsala project is now in a heading entitled 'abandoned projects'. We now have 2 articles on India/SkyWay negotiations. Neither of them say that the project has been 'abandoned'. They question its validity. The Norwegian article suggests that this project is still planned in 2020. I suggest until we have confirmation otherwise, we move India to 'Future projects'. I also suggest we follow the Indonesian model and call it 'planned projects' not 'future projects'; they are after all planned projects. Planned projects happen in the future but 'future projects' could mean a lot of things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaxander (talk • contribs) 11:20, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- Another reference on SkyWay in India including detailed information about the MoU and other negotiations from 9 May 2017 in 'India Today': [75]
Indonesia
There is no information about it at all, meanwhile there was period when Skyway was producing a lot of news and their managers signed MoU there and told about $42 billion projects[76]. It was terminated and Skyway alleged that Indonesian partners did nothing to promote Skyway in the region and stole money. Let's collect verifiable sources here. At the same time Indonesian partners said that company was frozen because of public complaints. Unfortunately it is in Indonesian. Google translations: "Mufli Asmawijaya, as the Chairperson of OJK Advocacy through telephone confirmation also suggested that companies in Indonesia immediately announce their freeze, given that there had been a lot of complaints from the public regarding several MLM offerings that had been selling investment products"
Dron007 (talk) 17:18, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron07 - I actually studied Indonesia and lived there so I'll check out these references. Thanks for this. I changed the article already to mention that they are in negotiation with the SkyWay companies in Indonesia. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:33, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- There are the main facts suggested in the article:
- Negotiations between Indonesia and the SkyWay Group were finally stopped in 2018.
- News of the resignation of the director of 'PT Skyway Technologies Indonesia' was repressed by the mother company in Belarus.
- According to the Indonesian Financial Services Authority (OJK), complaints had been made by the public about investment products being offered and because of the misinformation about the company this had to be made clear.
- This misinformation propagated by Skyway involved failure to inform the public about the cancellation of Skyway projects in Turkey, Australia and Indonesia.
- The OJK also confirmed that no SkyWay companies has ever registered officially in Indonesia.
- 'PT Skyway Technologies Indonesia' were apparently planning a project of 'sky trains' at the Jorong Port in Kalimantan.
Here is a new verifiable reference on the operations of the SkyWay in Indonesia. I found it in the Norwegian Wikipedia article. It concerns collaboration between UI (University of Indonesia) and Skyway:
−Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 10:56, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- This article discusses collaboration between 'Universitas Indonesia' and PT SkyWay Technologies Indonesia. 'PT' is an acronym for 'perseroan terbatas' which means 'limited company'. In 2017 an MoU was signed between the UI in West Java and this company. There is no indication that this specific project has been realized. According to the more recent reference all collaborations between SkyWay and Indonesia were cancelled. Unfortunately it didn't actually mention the MoU in West Java. It seemed important, however, to bring up the arrangements between UI and SkyWay in the article because it's mentioned in the Norwegian Wikipedia SkyWay article. They introduce it as a 'planned project'. These recent changes to the cancelled projects needs to be assessed however because I'm not actually sure that when the second article says that 'all projects are cancelled' it means the UI negotiations because a university isn't really a company and it doesn't mention specifically either the MoU or West-Java; it mentions a city in Kalimantan which is part of the island of Borneo. It could be that Indonesia belongs in either the 'postponed' or 'planned' projects; I just don't know. In any case, this article confirms that the Indonesian SkyWay limited company is part of the SkyWay Group: it mentions Yunitskiy personally and discusses the benefits of his SkyWay technology in detail. It also discusses the EcoTechnoPark in Belarus. Anyone interested in this translation can request it on my talk page. Interestingly, the SkyWay website mentions the Jorong port (which has been cancelled in the meantime) but doesn't specifically mention collaboration with the UI. Request for clarification on this subject. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 23:03, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
In this reference the Indonesian finance regulatory agency OJK (Otoritas Jasa Keuangan) warns about 57 different companies that have been banned and which investors could lose their money on. SkyWay is the second company on this list: [79]. IMHO it's safe to extend the list of countries that have released warnings about SkyWay can include Indonesia. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 17:43, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Here's another link to the OJK warning which was apparently released by the OJK on 9 April 2018: [80] -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 17:43, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Here's a translation of why these 57 companies are considered dangerous by the OJK into the English language: [81] -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 17:51, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- I agreeDron007 (talk) 21:56, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Here's a translation of why these 57 companies are considered dangerous by the OJK into the English language: [81] -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 17:51, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Here is an article on the MoUs signed in Kalimantan in December 2017. Read the original article here: [82] or uncollapse the translation below.
SkyWay Technologies sign MoU with MII, and PT Jorong Port Development
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http://www.tribunnews.com/bisnis/2017/12/01/skyway-technologies-mou-dengan-mii-dan-pt-jorong-port-development SkyWay Technologies MoU dengan MII, dan PT Jorong Port Development SkyWay Technologies MoU with MII, and PT Jorong Port Development 1 December 2017 [group of Indonesians displaying the MoU] TEXT: PT.SkyWay Technologies Indonesia conducted an MoU with the Indonesian Infrastructure Society (MII), and PT. Jorong Port Development. TRIBUNNEWS.COM, JAKARTA- PT. SkyWay Technologies Indonesia conducted two memorandum of understanding, or Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with the Indonesian Infrastructure Society (MII), and PT. Jorong Port Development. Both of these MoUs have important and strategic values, as well as providing an explanation of the development of SkyWay, including in Indonesia. Also included is a unique scheme of transportation infrastructure financing in the style of SkyWay Technologies that allows people to actively participate. "We also explained how this system was designed and had anticipation of scams and money lounding," PT SkyWay Technologies Indonesia Country Director Madinatul Fadhillah explained in an explanation received by tribunnews.com. He explained, the memorandum of understanding was held at the Best Western Hotel Kemayoran, Central Jakarta, Friday (1/12/2017). SkyWay Technologies Indonesia is currently starting to explore commercial area projects in Jorong Port, as an integrated industrial and port area that is part of the National Strategic Project (PSN). "Jorong is the center of the country. They are ready with all the basic conditions that are supposed to be there," he explained. The Indonesian Infrastructure Society (MII) was chosen to be invited to cooperate because it has supported SkyWay from an academic perspective. Infrastructure professionals. "Those who we later involve when we make feasibility studies. Including studies relating to Indonesian transportation infrastructure," Madina explained. In terms of technology, he continued, the innovation that received the Habitat and Golden Chariot UN awards was an elevated or floating transportation system. The President Director of Jorong Port, Wisnu Soehardjo, added that his side welcomed the cooperation. He admitted, his party had already planned to develop integrated transportation infrastructure in the Jorong area. "We already have port one, then there is a train then there is a highway highway Kalimantan highway, there is an airport. All of this we plan to integrate," said Wisnu. |
- The SkyWay Group negotiated with the Gadjah Mada University (Universitas Gaja Mada) in central Java. They signed a Memorandum of Understanding on 20 February 2018. See this article in Indonesian for description of these negotiations: [83] or read the translation below.
UGM Teams Up SkyWay to Develop Transportation Innovations, 20 February 2018
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https://www.republika.co.id/berita/pendidikan/dunia-kampus/18/02/20/p4fbma335-ugm-gandeng-skyway-kembangkan-inovasi-transportasi UGM Gandeng SkyWay Kembangkan Inovasi Transportasi UGM Teams Up with SkyWay to Develop Transportation Innovations 20 February 2018 [Photo of signing of MoU at university campus] TEXT: The signing of the memorandum of understanding between Gadjah Mada University and SkyWay Technological Indonesia at the UGM Head Office on Monday (19/2) REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, SLEMAN - Gadjah Mada University (UGM) and SkyWay Technologies Indonesia collaborated in the fields of education, research and community service. Cooperation, especially carried out in the development of innovation in the field of transportation. The cooperation agreement marked the signing of a joint memorandum of understanding between the UGM Chancellor, Panut Mulyono, and the Country Director of SkyWay Technologies Indonesia, Madinatul Fadilah. Madinatul hopes that this cooperation can provide transportation solutions for the nation. On that occasion, SkyWay launched a CSR program in the form of scholarships and internship programs for UGM final year students. Madinatul stressed that the program was an attempt to send knowledge quickly to the young generation of the nation. "Hopefully in the future this cooperation will work well," Madinatul said at the UGM Head Office Leadership Room on Monday [another photo of staff at the signing of MoU} TEXT: This MoU marks the collaboration of education, research and community service, especially the development of transportation innovations. (Wahyu Suryana / Republika) UGM Chancellor, Panut Mulyono, welcomed the cooperation carried out in the development of the field of transportation innovation. He sees, transportation is a very urgent issue to be resolved in Indonesia. Moreover, Panut continued, the condition of community mobility is increasing along with technological developments and increasing welfare. So, engineering and efforts to develop transportation modes are needed to reduce congestion. "Vehicle innovation is one way to expedite goods and human transportation, therefore innovation must grow well in Indonesia and create new modes of transportation and other fields," Panut said. He also expressed his gratitude for the CSR scholarship assistance given to UGM students. Panut revealed, around 30 percent of UGM students came from underprivileged families, who needed assistance from various parties. Panut hopes that this collaboration will be developed in a wider scope, not only in the development of transportation innovations. But, in other fields that can provide more benefits. "Hopefully this cooperation will benefit UGM and SkyWay and the benefits of the nation," Panut said. |
- SkyWay also claim that on 13 October 2017 they signed an MoU with Dasun Village, Rembang district as part of the "golden village" program. They use to prove this an article supposedly published by Merdeka.com which they self-publish here in Indonesian: [84]. I can find no actual reference to these negotiations in an Indonesian secondary source. I have at present no reason to believe these negotiations actually took place but if you can find a reference to these negotiations, please post them below. -Zachar (talk) 17:05, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Italy
Here follows a summary and complete translation of the verifiable Italian article concerning a project in the Sicilian city of Messina and the shady history of the Skyway group, dated 20 July 2018:
SKYWAY the flying tram company which has never realized a project
The primary purpose of the article is to suggest why any collaboration between the SkyWay group and the large Sicilian city of Messina would be inadvisable.
In an effort to do this the article details the history of the SkyWay group companies, the involvement of Kunitsky as director, the controversies in Lithuania and India, their questionable use of crowdfunding, and information about the banning of these practices by CONFOB – an official Italian government organisation.
'Concise summary of the facts Here is a concise summary of the most important facts in the article:
- Anatoly Yunitsky is the director of the SkyWay group which has companies registered under a wide variety of business names in London, Minsk and the Virgin Islands (a well-known tax haven).
- SkyWay has never realised an actual project anywhere. Existing proof consists of computer-generated images and a demonstration model in Belarus.
- It’s currently illegal for any of the SkyWay group to sell shares in Australia, Canada, Japan, Russia and the United States.
- There were many other SkyWay companies around the world promoting this technology which have since been dissolved. Current directors of the company deny having been involved with any of them.
- India and Lithuania have been involved in shady financial dealings with the SkyWay group. In 2017 a proposed project in Lithuania was suspected of financial fraud through the illegal sale of shares, and was cancelled. In May 2017, however, the investigations were stopped after they decided they couldn’t prosecute the company.
- In 2007 and 2018 specialists of the Moscow State University of Railway Engineering gave a negative assessment of this technology. In 2010 a project was cancelled in Australia before the planning started.
- The companies have applied controversial ‘crowdfunding’ techniques since 2014. They make lofty claims to individual citizens and promise extremely lucrative returns at some unspecified time in the future if you invest your money today.
- In January 2018 The Italian Companies and Exchange Commission CONFOB – a governmental organisation – banned the advertisement and sale of SkyWay shares in Italy.
- There are precedents in the past for questionable investments of foreigners in Italian infrastructure, including Indian and Arab investors whose projects were suspended.
- The mayor of Messina has been discussing possible collaborations with the SkyWay group as part of his electoral campaign.
'Complete Translation' [The English translation of this article can be found on the user Zaxander talk page. It's a very long article, and seeing that I've included above all the major facts from this verifiable source, it seemed to me to unnecessary to confuse the talkpage with unnecessary information that can be checked elsewhere. In any case to change the article you can use any of the above-listed facts to help you. Believe me it's hard to find reliable sources on this subject because there is so much misinformation].Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 18:58, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Here we have new article in Business Insider Italia (in Itallian) which looks like an excellent secondary source about regulatory warnings and many other aspects of Skyway activity. Dron007 (talk) 01:49, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
More information on the Business Insider Italia article: ATTACCÀTI AL TRAM
- Attaccàti al tram… Dal Pirellone a Messina, gli italiani che hanno abboccato alla fantomatica monorotaia da 500 kmh di SkyWay
- Attack on the tram ... From the Pirellone to Messina, the Italians who took the SkyWay's elusive 500 kmh monorail
"Cities bursting with traffic? No problem, the SkyWay company has the solution: to buy one of its monorails that make speeding cars at 15 meters high at 500 kilometers an hour, with a frequency of one every 15 seconds. Moreover, the plants cost 20% less than a normal subway and are totally green ... It seems like a dream, but it is the "real" proposal that the Belarusian company has been promoting for years now to heads of state, transport ministers and local administrations of half the world. Too bad that such facilities do not actually exist on the planet Earth." -Zachar (talk) 17:38, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
ITALIAN SKYWAY NEGOTIATIONS
- There were actually three negotiations in Italy none of which seem to have left the negotiation stages. Seeing that all emphasis is now put on development in the UAE, you can probably safely say these negotiations have been postponed or cancelled.
[1] Brianza – region in the North-West of Lombardy (between Milan and Lake Como)
- Negotiations were held at the Pirelli Tower in Milan with SkyWay and they were invited to present a feasibility project for a cable car between Cologno Monzese and Vimercate. These negotiations took place in March 2019. [85][86][87][88]
[2] Republic of San Marino – small enclaved microstate situated in Northern Italy
- The Secretary of State for this region met Yunitskiy in Belarus in March 2018 and signed a Protocol of Intent (Memorandum of Understanding) for the construction of the San Marino-Rimini connection. Controversy during other negotations in Italy and the Consob warnings led to this project being questioned by the authorities. [89][90][91]
[3] Messina – third largest city on the Italian island of Sicily.
- The mayor of Messina used the “the flying tram” as an election campaign issue to solve the regions mobility problems. His plans were proposed in June 2018. [92] [93]
–Zachar (talk) 11:46, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Possible addition to the Negotiations heading based on these new references. Please help improve this text by editing it yourself or including your suggestions below:
- In early 2018 negotiations took place in Italy. The Secretary of State for the Republic of San Marino signed a Memorandum of Understanding at the EcoTechnoPark in Belarus in March 2018 for the construction of the San Marino-Rimini line.[94] The mayor of the Sicilian city Messina also used SkyWay's "flying trams" to promote his electoral campaign.[95] Both negotiatians were postponed or cancelled because of concerns brought up the Italian regulatory agency Commissione Nazionale per le Società e la Borsa (CONSOB) [96]
- In March 2019, Brianza - a region in North-West Lombardy - invited SkyWay to present a feasibility project for a cable car between Cologno Monzese and Vimercate. Due to controversy surrounding the company these negotiations have been postponed.[97]
−Zachar (talk) 15:17, 5 May 2019 (UTC) -Zachar (talk) 15:17, 5 May 2019 (UTC) Zachar (talk) 09:49, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Piedi a Villa San Giovanni (8 July 2018) article on the SkyWay Messina negotiations
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https://www.tempostretto.it/news/utopie-realt-skyway-tram-volante-messinesi-piedi-villa-san-giovanni.html Piedi a Villa San Giovanni Walk to Villa San Giovanni By Marco Ipsale (8 July 2018) [photo of computer-generated image of SkyWay towering above a highway] TEXT: A technology that has never been applied, a project that raises a thousand legitimate perplexities. Meanwhile, the people of Messina lack the basic transport services "Our idea of suspended mobility, which in the electoral campaign received not a few criticisms and in some cases also easy ironies, remains a staple for the De Luca Administration." Words of Deputy Mayor Salvatore Mondello, who participated in a meeting in Reggio Calabria, on the presentation of the "Metro Aspromonte" idea-project, which was also attended by "Skyway" technology experts. What is it? "A system - again in the words of Mondello - that moves at high speed, in elevated, for urban and extra-urban transport, with the possibility of reaching even places with particular access criticalities and a contained cost of construction compared to traditional railway". And let's go see it, then, this "Skyway" technology. The only references on the net, in addition to those of various presentations in different parts of the world without one having materialized, are those of the skywayinvestgroup internet site and the relative Facebook page, where a crowdfunding is also launched, that is to say the possibility to participate in a collective loan. Then only so much publicity. From these unique sources, it is clear that in 2014, in Marjina Horka, in Belarus, a museum park was built right on the Skyway, where its operation is shown, and that its creator, the engineer Anatoly Yunitskiy, studies the system since the early 1980s. The only agreement we are talking about, obviously without any confirmation, is on the Italian sponsored pages and on skyway.capital, a subsidiary company that proposes investments in the project and promises an economic return. It is discussed in multi-level marketing forums and blogs: "The greatest technological innovation of the 21st century" and "a great opportunity", according to some, "Schema Ponzi" according to others, namely, as defined by Wikipedia, an "economic model of fraudulent sales that promises strong profits to the victims provided they recruit new investors, themselves victims of fraud". The agreement would concern the Indian government, for a sum of 890 million dollars, thanks also to the support of the Dalai Lama, who does not understand what he has to do with it, "witnessed" by a photo on Facebook of the Tibetan spiritual authority next to Yunitskiy , which clearly does not prove anything, with a link that leads to a page ... with pictures of dogs (sic). "The speed of the rolling stock - we find out again - can reach up to 500 kilometers per hour", perhaps useful for going from Torre Faro to Giampilieri in three minutes. But the Messina project would be more moderate: speed of "only" 70/80 km / h, 15 minutes for the 15 km route from Ganzirri to Pistunina, with 12 intermediate stops. Cost between 120 and 130 million. An even more "curious" project if you compare it to the current Messina tramline, 8 km (therefore half) and 18 stops (the triple, in proportion). A line that will surely be improved, but which is however appreciated by the people of Messina, as shown by the constant increase in passengers in recent years, and that has nothing to do with the "innovative" project. Leaving aside the Skyway, the suspended monorail exists in very few cities in the world. And, for the most part, it is in use for very short journeys. In Memphis, for example, in Tennessee, it is just 500 meters, then it is present only in Germany and Japan, here too with short routes. In Tokyo only 300 meters, in Dortmund only on the university campus, in Dusseldorf only between the station and the airport. A real public transport service with this system, in practice, exists in only three cities in the world: Chiba (in Japan, 15 km and 18 stops), between Kamakura and Fujisawa (also in Japan, 6 and a half kilometers, 8 stops), in Wuppertal (in Germany, 13 km and 20 stations). That of Messina would therefore be the longest in the world, like that of Chiba. But for the De Luca administration, as reaffirmed by Mondello, the project remains "a fixed point", which has so far received too many criticisms and easy ironies. Like that of someone who created a Facebook page entitled "Daily updates on the Messina monorail", which still has more likes, to date 471, than the Skyway Italia Facebook page, which like it has so far 332. Even wanting to take the project as a good thing, and the many perplexities are a must, it is good to underline and reiterate that it has never materialized, except in a few similar cases, and that, if ever it will see the light, it will do so in many years. Criticisms and ironies, therefore, are legitimate, all the more so if one thinks that he is speaking again at the same time as an important news recently disclosed by the UIL: the Ministry would have given the green light to a new public shipping company together with RFI , with the sale of the Bluferries branch of the company, envisaged by the last budget of the Gentiloni government, which contemplates territorial continuity not only for trains but, finally, also for pedestrians. To date, between Messina and Villa, there are only nine daily return trips, which become just six on weekends and holidays. And many passengers are forced to take advantage of the alternative provided by private individuals that, among other things, as soon as the new port of Tremestieri is ready, there will be no more. The cost of today's service is around 3 million, against collections of 700 thousand euros, while with the new company there would be an investment of 4 million and 600 thousand euros and increased travel with an extra hydrofoil. Unless it is the same money already provided by the service contract with RFI, because otherwise everything would be at the expense of the train service. According to the Uil, an investment of at least 8 million is needed to have a good frequency of races, above all in coincidence with the trains that move to and from central-northern Italy. And that's what politics must spend on this. Today, in 2018, while there are those who think of a suspended monorail ever built in the world, the people of Messina are forced to walk, under water and wind or in the strong sun, the distance between the private moorings and the Villa station Saint John. And every day it is a continuous coming and going of Messina, often with suitcase in tow, on a journey on uneven asphalt, small pavements, holes and lava stone paving. For the elderly or people with reduced mobility it is a possibility not to be taken into consideration. A shame unworthy of a civilized country. |
Latvia
From October 19 to 22 2017, Latvian citizens had the opportunity to look at the SkyWay-scale model of the future city air transport at the exhibition "Environment and Energy 2017" in Kipsala. Read about it here: [98]
In April 2018 the Financial and Capital Market Commission (FCMC/FKTK) of Latvia repeatedly warned about the illegal sales of shares. Read about it here: [99]. Latvians were encouraged to contact the police if they had been approached. An article was published on 5 May 2018 about a 'shareholder' who apparently owned shares in the company. The title of this article translates to: "SRS employee Gargazeviča has declared 2.04 million euros in investment fund shares". Here is some more of this article:
- Gargazevič has declared its holdings of investment funds in the amount of USD 2 371 870 (EUR 2 038 138)... In its 2016 declaration, Gargazeviča stated that she owns the "Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Holding Ltd." registered in the British Virgin Islands. shares worth $ 888,155 (€ 763,188) and UK registered "First SkyWay Invest Group Ltd." $ 893,180 (€ 767,506). The total value of the shares owned by Gargazevič in 2016 was EUR 1,530,694.[100]
This article which also concerns this shareholder suggests that Gargazevič has actually invested 4000 euros in various SkyWay companies and that she would only be able to get money from her shares if the company was successful. Read this article for more information: [101] -Zachar (talk) 17:55, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Lithuania
The scandal in Lithuania is complex and deserves a responsible description in the text. Unverifiable references and misleading text has just been removed. In an effort to do the issue justice I read the four verifiable articles, including the one in Lithuanian which I translated with Google. All the articles say pretty much the same thing. Here's a summary of what I understood (most of it was never mentioned or was deliberately distorted in the article): [1] Officials in the municipality of Siauliai started negotiating with SkyWay in 2014 and as such land was designated for use near a NATO based somewhere in the municipality; [2] The whole affair became embroiled in a corruption scandal when about 360 thousand euros was transferred by SkyWay into somebody's bank account; [3] Because of this the Bank of Lithuania started an investigation and the deal was prematurely concluded; [4] Eventually the prosecutor's office decided that although they could not prosecute the SkyWay group for being a pyramid scheme, that their methods of financing were highly suspect and for this reason Lithuania should have nothing to do with the company. Before recent adjustment, the second paragraph seemed to include a lot of unnecessary information justifying the actions of SkyWay by emphasizing the fact that they were exonerated from being a pyramid scheme. But that is hardly relevant here: even if that's true the Bank of Lithuania still started an investigation, found that the company was involved in shady practices and stopped the deal because of the illegal sale of shares. Although the investigation eventually ended and one of their conclusions was that they couldn't actually prosecute the company for the specifics of a pyramid scheme, this hardly exonerates the company from wrong-doing. They go out of their way to emphasise the fact that the investigation was stopped on May 26th 2017 and that this was because of their decision that there was no pyramid scheme. This is simply not true. I can't actually find this specific date anywhere in the four verifiable references and it hardly seems important. But I've concluded the paragraph with a sentence stating that the prosecutor's office decided to stop its investigations in May 2017. In the light of this information the whole story should be rewritten and told in a consequent fashion. Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 11:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
I translated the Lithuanian article into English.
- Bank of Lithuania: signs of fraud in the activities of A. Yunitskiy promising “air trains”
By Šarūnas Černiauskas, www.DELFI.lt [DELFI is the primary news portal in Lithuania] September 18 2014
You can view this translation at the user:Zaxander talk page. It specifically implicates that Yunitskiy founded the various companies in the SkyWay Groups in London and Lithuania. It is also very specific about him being the primary shareholder. Furthermore it mentions him in every single paragraph. It hardly mentions the technology itself. Its source of information is Vaidas Cibas, the 'Head of the Regulated Market Supervision Division of the Bank of Lithuania Supervision Authority'. The research seems to be very thorough. They conclude that they will share this information widely among international supervisory authorities "so that it is known in all countries that this company is engaged in illegal activities".
- –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:44, 20 February 2019 (UTC)Zaxander
- Lithuanian article on the SkyWay scandal "String Transport Contract at the Centre of a Scandal"
- http://www.snaujienos.lt/miesto-gyvenimas/30184-sutartis-dl-styginio-transporto-skandalo-centre.html
Looks like it's a governmental publication of Siauliu region. Anyone want to verify and translate it? –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:51, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- Here follows a summary of a translation of this article. It describes in detail the actual negotiations that were undertaken between the municipality of Siauliai and the SkyWay Group BEFORE the Bank of Lithuania suggested that the Prosecutor's Office start an investigation into this company. Information about the negotiations could be extended by making use of facts like these:
- The Siauliai province was involved in a scandal when they started negotiations with the SkyWay company in 2014.
- The Siauliai City Municipality signed an investment agreement with SkyWay and allocated a 30-hectare plot of land; they were planning to building a “string transport laboratory and a test track” there.
- Controversy started when opposing politicians suggested that collaboration with SkyWay would pose a threat to “the security of our state and NATO”; Andrius Kubilius leader of the opposition turned to the Prime Minister and Minister of National Defence with fears of “a Russian-led shield organization based on the methods of operation of Russian special services directed against NATO and Lithuania”. He claimed that by approving this project Siauliai was “ignoring Russia’s aggressive policy towards not only the Ukraine but also against the Baltic states”.
- The Mayor of the city Justinas Sartauskas was accused of signing this agreement without receiving permission from the national land service, checking the company’s capital or without consulting the Ministry of Defence.
- The String Transport project also showed signs of corruption. A million litas (about 360 thousand euros) was added to the municipal bank account of Siauliai. According to Sartauskas these claims were unfounded. This money was transferred to guarantee the costs that would be incurred by pre-allocating this land to the SkyWay company test-site, ensuring no harm would be done to the city: “If they did not fulfill the terms of the contract, we would simply deduct the costs from that million”.
–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 15:18, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- If we need more reliable sources acout this case here they are: [102][103][104] (about the reasons of project cancelling) [105] (latest news, rejection to pay $10 million compensation to Rail Skyway System). Dron007 (talk) 15:58, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
- NEGOTATIONS TEXT: proposed extension to the text based on facts listed above in the Siauliai scandal.
- "During negotiations with the SkyWay Group the municipality of Siauliai in Lithuania became involved in a scandal. An investment agreement was signed, a piece of land was pre-allocated to a SkyWay test-site and a large sum of money was transferred to the municipality's bank accounts to guarantee against loss to the city. The mayor was later crticised for signing this contract without receiving permission from the national land service, checking the company’s capital or consulting the Ministry of Defence and the project was finally cancelled at the end of 2014." –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 07:46, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Here is another article on the investigation of the Yunitskiy by the Lithuanian authorities. It is a DELFI article entitied "History of Siauliai Sky Trains: Yunitskiy became a suspect" from 25 March 2015 and comments on the fact that "the pre-trial invstigation into SkyWay is gaining momentum" and concludes that Yunitskiy himself had departed from Lithuania and was not coming back. See the article here: [106] –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 14:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Another article concerning the Lithuania controversy. Here it is made clear: in 2014 an issue was warned by the Bank of Lithuania for the operations of the company "Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd.". In Siauliai, however, negotiations were held with the company "Rail SkyWay Systems Ltd." and this SkyWay test facility was cancelled for different reasons. Read the original article here published 23 August 2017: [107].
- Why do you seek for creating the appearance of negative “conclusion” made on the ground of old outdated suspicions in Lithuanian language placed from beginning to the end? An enhanced investigation conducted during 3 years was off. The Prosecution concluded that no fraud SkyWay activity evidences was found. It’s obviously that conflict was related to domination of Siemens in that country. 061 However now the project is successfully developed in Belarus, where the EcoFest visitors could take a ride on Unibus 32 33 and in OAE 34 Please note: all this was designed, engineered, developed and built from zero within 5 years for finances of small investors.--George Marshal (talk) 12:21, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- The conclusion drawn about the domination of Siemans is just Yunitskiy's opinion as confirmed in this reference republished on SkyWay promotion sites as fact: "Yunitsky has repeatedly stated that the conflict with the Lithuanian authorities may be associated with the dominance of the industry branch competitor of string transport - Siemens." 061. Although Yunitskiy sued the Lithuanian government, his case was dismissed and the Bank of Lithuania rereleased its warning about the fraudulent activity of the SkyWay Group. Being able to ride a unicar at the EcoTechnoPark doesn't change the facts documented in the Delfi and Baltic Course articles, both from news senders verified in Lithuania. Using the money of small-investors to fund a 'test-site' on a Belarusian farm is nothing to be proud of. This park has received no officially accredited scientific evaluation or testing, but nonetheless a lot of money has been spent to create promotion opportunites which are shared across the internet to attract people at home who don't know enough about investment to understand this company is illegally selling them investment products which have no actual value (as confirmed and reconfirmed by multiple references, including the Onliner.by articles from Belarus, the Geldthemen.de articles from Germany, the Primechaniya articles from Russia and the Volga News articles from the Crimea). Let the EcoTechnoPark be officially tested by nationally recognized bodies so we can base our judgement on something external to self-published sources. Any claims Yunitskiy makes about his technology 'self-funded by small investors' have to be read as self-published promotion until he allows independent testing of his technology. –Zachar (talk) 13:22, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- Why do you seek for creating the appearance of negative “conclusion” made on the ground of old outdated suspicions in Lithuanian language placed from beginning to the end? An enhanced investigation conducted during 3 years was off. The Prosecution concluded that no fraud SkyWay activity evidences was found. It’s obviously that conflict was related to domination of Siemens in that country. 061 However now the project is successfully developed in Belarus, where the EcoFest visitors could take a ride on Unibus 32 33 and in OAE 34 Please note: all this was designed, engineered, developed and built from zero within 5 years for finances of small investors.--George Marshal (talk) 12:21, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- In 2017, SkyWay stated, "The Certificates were issued by LLC “Scientific-technical center of Scientific Research Institute Gorelectrotransport” having a corresponding accreditation at the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation. Each certificate confirms the compliance with the normative requirements for complete sets of rolling stock equipment including: traction drive, control system, energy storage unit, microclimate system, fire extinguishing system, frame of traction module in assembly with chassis, passenger module."
- https://rsw-systems.com/news/skyway-unibus-unibike-certificates
- https://rsw-systems.com/assets/files/shares/documents-2017/Certificate_U4-210_eng-1.pdf
- In 2016, the prior year, SkyWay stated, "The Scientific Technical Center under the Research Institute Gorelektrotransport is the only entity on the territory of Russia and the entire Сustoms Union of the Eurasian Economic Union accredited to proceed with works on certification of rolling stock for urban electric transport. The main objectives of NTC are to carry out works on certification of companies in the sector, methodological support of processes to create and update normative documents, analyze and produce methods and procedures for technical inspections of urban surface electric transport, arrange and test new types of rolling stock, which includes all varieties of SkyWay vehicles."
- https://rsw-systems.com/news/skyway-proceeds-to-final-stage-of-certification?lang=en&r=43
- talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 14:44, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Malaysia
Motivated sales and recruitment meetings for SkyWay Group events have been documented in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia. According to SWIG, meetings were held on 26-27 August 2018 and their speakers were Armand Murnieks and Mila Serdyukova: [108]. The SWIG Asia Pacific meeting also took place on February 9-10 2019: [109]. BehindMLM also mention the Cryptocurrency promoted in one of these events with photos of the investment portfolio for 'Cryptounits' which would pay monthly dividends:[110]. Post any verified published documentation of these events so we can include it as one of the locations used for recruitment and sales meetings for questionable investment products. Zachar (talk) 12:31, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Netherlands
A SkyWay Capital meeting was apparently held on the 18th of May 2019, Hotel de Elderschans,67 Herendreef, 4527 AZ Aardenburg. Patricia Uytterhoeven is the director of SkyWay Capital Nederland (the Netherlands). Participants were invited to hear information about the Sharjah test site and new investment opportunities. SkyWay Capital raises funds for SkyWay projects and has been accused of canvassing small investors to part with their money through motivated sales and recruitment meetings like this. This meeting is presented as an 'industry presentation for prospective investors in SkyWay Capital'. Request for secondary sources that comment on motivated sales meetings so we can add the Netherlands to the list of countries where it has been documented that such MLM meetings takes place. Here is the primary source:
New Zealand
In July 2018 New Zealand released a warning about the activity of SkyWay companies. The warning viewable here [111] reads as follows:
- "It has been brought to the attention of FMA that Skyway Capital and its associates are offering financial services to New Zealand residents via social media and via other New Zealand residents. Skyway Capital and The Skyway Group are not registered as a financial service provider in New Zealand and is therefore not permitted to provide financial services to New Zealand residents... FMA also notes recent warning by the regulators in Belgium, Lithuania and Estonia in relation to Skyway Capital and The Skyway group. It is noted on the warnings that Skyway Capital and The Skyway Group could be involved in a scam and are an unlicensed entity in those jurisdictions."
The question is: why did they release this warning? This article published in the New Zealand herald and in conversation with the FMA who released the warning about SkyWay, concerns telephone marketing campaigns: [112], but it doesn't specifically mention SkyWay. New Zealand residents have been offered potentially fraudulent content. But do they mean on the internet or via telephone marketing? Or more generally to all activity. There must be published article on the exact activities that drew the attention of a regulatory agency. This is a request for information on the details of SkyWay groups activities in New Zealand.
According to SkyWay themselves, 'Neil Morrison' is the representative of Sky Way Invest Group in New Zealand. You can find him on Facebook and LinkedIn. This event was held on May 12 in Palmerston, New Zealand and contains information about a motivated sales meeting that may have occurred there. But until we have a published description of the event we can consider this link a primary source: [113]. Post any information you find below.
Nigeria
It seems that the SkyWay Group are active in Nigeria as well, at least according to the SkyWay website. Include any actual verifiable references to SkyWay activity in Nigeria below:
-Zachar (talk) 20:14, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- It appears they had a congress there where Nigerian SkyWay staff encouraged people to invest in this project: [114]
- The article concerns how they use are using MLM-techniques to promote investment in SkyWay Nigeria. Small-scale investors are encouraged become 'affiliate investors' in an exciting project that will improve life in Nigeria for everyone; [115]
- The photo in the last article include figures like František Solar who has been involved in negotiations with Indonesia which were cancelled and harks back to representing SkyWay technologies in the Czech Republic and Slovakia, and Kristiaan Van Den Vyver who has represented SkyWay Capital in Belgium (where FSMA has released a warning) and in other international negotiations such as Vietnam. –Zachar (talk) 08:49, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- The name of the Nigerian SkyWay company registered in Lagos is Technopolis Integrated Nigeria Limited : [116]
-Zachar (talk) 08:56, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- The https://www.skywaynigeria.com/ looks like non-official local self created promotional web site. However why to not promote an investment opportunity? Your references to the article versus your comments explicitly demonstrate you’re a priory biased attitude to SkyWay technology. There is nothing about “MLM encouraging”. The [152][152] article represents general picture of today’s Nigeria development, issues, goals and needs, and the solutions that such technology as SkyWay can bring to this country. Article Is very positive and informative. Nothing about “everyone’s life improving” in the other one [153], that is in turns, an advertising of referral program officially used by SkyWay to stimulate crowdinvesting.
- However you can turn to another article stating that SkyWay representatives expressed their readiness to implement the transport in Nigeria without any financial support from the government. It will significantly reduce pollution, upgrade infrastructure and attract tourists in this African country 1111--George Marshal (talk) 14:02, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for these references that confirm that SkyWay are seeking small-scale investors in Nigeria as part of an 'affiliate investment programme' (otherwise known as pyramid or multi-level marketing). Claims you make about reducing pollution or upgrading transport are entirely unsupported by your references.–Zachar (talk) 14:58, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- The International Skyway Capital Conference LAGOS was held on Friday the 9th of November, 2018 at "The New Ultra Modern D’PODIUM INTERNATIONAL EVENT CENTRE 31B, Aromire Avenue, Adeniyi Jones, Ikeja Lagos-Nigeria."–Zachar (talk) 20:09, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for these references that confirm that SkyWay are seeking small-scale investors in Nigeria as part of an 'affiliate investment programme' (otherwise known as pyramid or multi-level marketing). Claims you make about reducing pollution or upgrading transport are entirely unsupported by your references.–Zachar (talk) 14:58, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Norway
A translation is included below of an article published in the Norwegian magazine FINANSAVISEN on 17 November 2017 questioning the activity of this company which was attempting to get Norwegians to invest in SkyWay projects: "Hvitrussisk luftslott selges mot nordmenn" (Belarusian castles in the air sold to Norwegians).
PYRAMID CONCEPT - Belarusian castles in the air sold to Norwegians (Finansavisen, 17 November 2017 by Steinar Grini)
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PYRAMID CONCEPT - Belarusian castles in the air sold to Norwegians 17 November 2017 Author: STEINAR GRINI steinar.grini@finansavisen.no [photo of high rise circular apartment buildings with the text: GET FOR FREE WHAT WILL BE AS PRECIOUS AS GOLD IN 15 YEARS FROM NOW: HOW TO BECOME THE OWNER OF THE FAMILY ESTATE IN THE LINEAR CITY OF EURASIA ST. PETERSBURG – VLADIVOSTOK learn more] TEXT: FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE: Sky Way also markets family homes with cable cars from house to house, here from Vladivostok. PHOTO: Bikini model cleaning a SkyWay Unicar TEXT: CLEAN: SkyWay emphasises cleaning, however does not give anyone a good explanation why cleaning staff must have high heels and bikini. FINANCE: Imagine a train going up in the air and a company that is in Step 11 of 15 prior to listing in London and New York and rising 40 percent in value for each step. Shares in a Belarussian company in Minsk are now being sold to Norwegians. The project is extremely airy, and the promises of wealth are even more airy. Here, there is already talk of pricing of NOK 400 billion and plans for stock exchange listing. Small investor Olav Magne Tveitå has been tried and sold in the project called SkyWay Invest Group. - The company had come to step 11 in a development of 15 steps before the IPO. For each step, the shares were priced 40 percent higher, says small investor Olav Magne Tveitå. He refused to invest in the project, but fears that many Norwegians will be tempted. Threatening email A search on the web shows that the company has a typical pyramidal form where the person who sells shares gets 15 percent of the invested amount to it beneath it in the pyramid, and somewhat less from each of the steps below. In total, it operates with 24 levels in the pyramid. An acquaintance introduced Tveitå for the investment project, on which Per Magne Nilsen came up from Kristiansand to hold the presentation. - I have not given any presentation, but I may have sat next to someone who has talked about the project, says Nilsen to Finansavisen. - Per Magne Nilsen was the man who gave the presentation to me. I soon realized owls in the bog, says Tveitå who shows an email he received from Nilsen shortly after the presentation. In the email that has a threatening wording, which is sent from Nilsen, and has his signature, it states: "I have been informed that you are spreading rumors that what I have presented to you is fraud and that I am conducting fraud / scam - and that I have been conducting fraud before, cf your statements ??? Is this correct that you set out such rumors? Threatening to the police - I know there is something called SkyWay, but I'm not involved. I can put you in touch with those who are if you are interested. I'll think about it and turn on the thread. Then you can make a really big deal about this. It will be exciting, ”says Nilsen. - But then it must be serious. I must know. If it is negative, then you can go to hell to say it in good Norwegian. Then there is no one who contacts you beyond the police or anyone for libel, for it is very unacceptable. - But if it is serious then I can put you in touch with those who are current. Since then, we do not hear anything from Nilsen, after which we contact several days later and receive an answer from Nilsen that he will try to establish a meeting once in the future without concretizing it. According to Tveitå, Nilsen stated that he had visited the Sky Way in Minsk together with 5,000 other people who took the products into consideration. The business idea was gondolas and trains that went on cables in the air, and with production costs of only 10 percent of trains, as well as formidable speeds. According to Nilsen, the company must have 320,000 unit holders, but that the shares cannot be traded until the final step in the development has been made, which is the stock exchange listing. Warning against SkyWay Capital At the same time, Finanstilsynet has issued a warning against a company with virtually identical concept and operating under the name SkyWay Capital. Nilsen rejects any knowledge of this company. Two months ago, one of Nilsen's Facebook friends, John Arne Jakobsen, published a post on his Facebook page, protesting that SkyWay was neither an air castle nor a scam. He urges those who want to buy ownership of the project to send him a message. A search on Facebook may indicate that there are a lot of people in Norway who have invested in the Sky Way in anticipation that after steps 12, 13, 14 and 15, when the company goes on the stock market, they get answers to whether the values have increased 300 percent or if it is a pyramid scheme. |
–Zachar (talk) 11:21, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Slovakia
It appears that SkyWay has been active in Slovakia. At the Slovak University of Technology in Bratislava they signed a 'Memorandum of Cooperation' in September 2016 on a "project of an innovative rail transport system in Bratislava": [117]. Please note that a 'Memorandum of Cooperation' may be similar to a 'Memorandum of Understanding' which is not actually a contract and does not legally oblige anyone to do anything. It can, however, form the basis for further cooperation and can result in the preparation of an actual contract. The fact that there is no third-party publicity about any actual collaboration between anyone in Slovakia suggests that this hasn't taken place yet. A Memorandum doesn't prove any actual scientific endorsement of this technology either. It just means they might in the future draw up documents to collaborate on something. There are no further endorsements anywhere on the company or its technology that I can find. Can anyone else find a verifiable article about either the negotiations with University of Technology in Bratislave or in fact any SkyWay activity there? Post it here.
SkyWay Capital or its associates may well have been seeking funding in Slovakia. The Bank of Slovakia released a warning about the activities of the SkyWay Group: [118]. So did the Czech National Bank: [119]. I haven't found any other references to collaboration between the SkyWay Group and Slovakia. SkyWay themselves claim that Yunitskiy has received an international peace prize in Bratislava. It seems that no one else has ever received this prize as far as I can tell: [120] –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 18:32, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- If we could find a secondary reference to collaboration between SkyWay and the Slovak University of Technology, then we could conceivably include it in the 'Projects' heading. But this is what worries me: the SkyWay Group has never actually realized any of these projects. You have to be careful about making claims like this but it is certainly true for the 'projects' discussed here. They may realize the proposed project in Dubai in the future and if they did this would be important news. But if they did, this would be striking and deserving of an individual discussion. The fact that they've been photographed on land which has supposedly been allocated to this project is not sufficient. Nothing has been built there yet. They have signed an MoU which is NOT a contract and no one is actually obliged to do anything. Although it can lead to a contract being drawn up, it doesn't actually mean much on its own. Maybe the section called 'projects' should actually be called 'negotiations' because 'projects' suggests that something has been built. It really hasn't. Negotiations are very different to actual projects. This is not a negative claim about the company. Negotiations are an important part of being a business, but projects result from legally-binding contracts which are drawn up after MoUs provide the foundation for them. I suggest we change the name of 'projects' to either 'negotiations' or 'proposals' or something like that. I say this because one of the users providing useful input to this talk page actually suggested we have a separate heading for the 'completed' projects. It's actually easy to assume if you see a heading like 'projects' that these companies have actually done something somewhere. I'm worried this could be misleading. –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 20:31, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Slovenia
Here's a link to an article in Slovenian, published 31 May 2018. Note that from what I can tell it doesn't actually say so much about whether there is any specific activity in Slovenia. But it is very informative about the complexity of the group of companies, the connection between different company groups, what the money could actually be used for of investors and the chance of people actually making any money out of it, and interesting facts like how you are rewarded for bringing along three friends to meetings and convincing them to invest in shares. There are photos of Yunitskiy and Kudryashov (SkyWay Capital). Request for verification and possible translation of this interesting material. Here is the link:
–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 18:33, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- WHO ARE THESE RUSSIANS HUNTING FOR SLOVENIAN MONEY?
- 31 May 2018 by Matic Tomšič
- See the Zaxander (talk · contribs) talk page for the complete translation. Included below, however is a summary of the contents of this article. It makes pretty clear exactly what happened in Slovenia with pretty broad conclusions about the role of Yunitskiy, the SkyWay technology and SkyWay Capital which is closely involved in the funding operation. I tried to be really careful about how I worded this summary, and I encourage you to check the original or the translation before you use any of these facts in the article.
SUMMARY:
- A ‘SkyWay’ meeting for potential investors was held in December 2017 at ‘Hotel Center’ in Novo Mesto, Slovenia. The first event had already been held in September of the same year.
- SkyWay is a cable transport system designed by Anatoly Yunitskiy in the eighties. Yunitskiy, who is the primary representative today of the SkyWay Group, is making lofty claims about this technology.
- Although Yunitskiy still produces prototypes of his technology, no pilot projects have been realised. A negative assessment was made of this technology in 2008 (MSUoRE) because it was considered too dangerous for passengers. In 2016 the Russian Ministry of Transport decided it was innovative but only in theory.
- SkyWay Capital – the primary fund raiser of SkyWay projects – operates within the SkyWay Group; it has been seeking potential investors all over the world.
- According to this company a polluted future and the end of all life on earth can be avoided by investing in SkyWay infrastructure. All they need is your money. They promise you high returns on any investments in shares or options.
- Although it’s hard to tell because of the different companies in the SkyWay Group, it seems that the First Skyway Invest Group Ltd. (registered in London) is selling these shares.
- The potential success of this company is dependent on the success of the technology; when it succeeds the price of its shares will increase. Seeing that there are still only prototypes in Belarusian fields, this seems unlikely.
- SkyWay Capital ultimately absolves itself of any liability and offers no guarantee on returns to investors; furthermore it states that its shares are not valid in Russia or Australia.
–Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 21:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Spain
A SWIG event group is planned to take place in Mallorca, Spain on 27 July 2019. You can find the promotion for this event in Spanish via the following link: "We invite you to our SWIG and STO CRYPTOUNIT event in MALLORCA" [121]. The representative of SWIG in Spain are Galina Zukova and Jose Manuel. Post any verifiable references about SkyWay Group activities in Spain. They seem to be promoting themselves as a global investment consortium that is only party connected to the SkyWay technology. These are the actual claims that SkyWay makes in advertising this particular event (google-translated from Spanish):
- SKY WAY INVEST GROUP, is a registered trademark company, is an educational platform that provides highly qualified training and directed to a variety of areas that include the personal area, investment segments, money management, capital and expansion of investment portfolio, online business and personal development... The creation of the CryptoUnit will help realize the NEEM (New Global Economic Evolution) that is designed to help people become co-owners, stakeholders and shareholders of the most profitable companies on the planet.
-Zachar (talk) 19:51, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
South Africa
It seems that the Sky Way Invest Group is also active in South Africa. A motivated sales and recruitment meeting was held in Pretoria on 11th and 12th of May 2019: [122]. Please post verified sources commenting on meetings like these so we can add this information to the article. -Zachar (talk) 16:19, 29 May 2019 (UTC) Here is a link about the SkyWay sales conference held on Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th of May at Hotel 224, Corner leyds and Francis baard, Acardia, Pretoria between 10 and 5 - "Advance your future with SWIG in South Africa": [123] Although this reference is not self-published SkyWay promotion, it remains advertising for the event which was published before it actually took place. The article can be updated to include South Africa when there is a published verified source who comments on this event. -Zachar (talk) 16:54, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Turkey
According to the Indonesian article mentioned above, the SkyWay group has been misinforming the world about its negotiations with Turkey. According to the article, plans of the SkyWay group have similarly been brought into question and stopped, although you wouldn't think this from the SkyWay website which discuss it as an ongoing project. This is a request for documentation on actual articles referring to what is happening/has happened to negotiations in Turkey if they are at all. Despite the fact that it is mentioned all over the 'SkyWay' website, this is the first time a verifiable source has mentioned Turkey at all. Include any links below.
- –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 09:37, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- They wrote that mayor of Ersurum had visited EcoTechnoPark and that "The official edition of the municipality of Erzurum “Erzurum Büyükşehir Belediyesi” published an article, which, in particular, focuses on the fact that the Mayor of the city of Erzurum Mehmet Sekmen told the public about SkyWay technology. Moreover, he informed that it is planned to allocate funds for the construction of SkyWay transport already in 2017!" [124] but it is very easy to check that there is nothing about Skyway on the mentioned page [125]. Dron007 (talk) 20:00, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007 More good research. This sort of proves how important it is for the SkyWay Group to 'appear' as if it is negotiating with powerful partners. The Indonesian reference you found actually states that collaboration between Indonesian companies and the SkyWay group were cancelled but that nonetheless the SkyWay group continued to lie about their collaborations, as they were doing with negotiations in Turkey and Australia. We do know that at one stage there really were collaborations with Australia and Indonesia. I wonder what the whole truth is about Turkey? Sometimes it's really hard to tell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaxander (talk • contribs) 20:58, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- It looks like Turkish delegation visited Belarus and they signed MoU but I couldn't find any independent reports.Dron007 (talk) 01:48, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007 More good research. This sort of proves how important it is for the SkyWay Group to 'appear' as if it is negotiating with powerful partners. The Indonesian reference you found actually states that collaboration between Indonesian companies and the SkyWay group were cancelled but that nonetheless the SkyWay group continued to lie about their collaborations, as they were doing with negotiations in Turkey and Australia. We do know that at one stage there really were collaborations with Australia and Indonesia. I wonder what the whole truth is about Turkey? Sometimes it's really hard to tell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaxander (talk • contribs) 20:58, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- They wrote that mayor of Ersurum had visited EcoTechnoPark and that "The official edition of the municipality of Erzurum “Erzurum Büyükşehir Belediyesi” published an article, which, in particular, focuses on the fact that the Mayor of the city of Erzurum Mehmet Sekmen told the public about SkyWay technology. Moreover, he informed that it is planned to allocate funds for the construction of SkyWay transport already in 2017!" [124] but it is very easy to check that there is nothing about Skyway on the mentioned page [125]. Dron007 (talk) 20:00, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Uganda
It seems that SkyWay has extended its reach into Uganda. It has been reported that marketing campaigns are targeting Ugandas via social media, and this recent broadcast on Ugandan television has a woman talking about investment opportunities for everyday investors: [126]
Post any information you find in the Ugandan press about SkyWay recruitment and sales meetings or the way they are canvassing investors below. Information about what you see on social media has to be considered as well as this the active point of marketing of this company. -Zachar (talk) 08:49, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
United Arab Emirates
An unidentified user says that the following links are specifically about SkyWay's companies involvement with 'Sky Pod' projects in the United Arab Emirates. Thanks for posting this suspicion here and not changing the article with this information. Until now I haven't been able to find that there is a link between Sky Pods and SkyWay, but I haven't looked very hard. Can anyone else confirm this? -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 22:09, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Here are the links:
- "Dubai's transport authority has unveiled its Sky Pod project, a futuristic mobility system which will require less power and infrastructure to operate."
- "The sky pods were on display at the annual World Government Summit..."
https://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/dubai/soon-you-can-go-around-dubai-using-sky-pods-1
- https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/other/sheikh-mohammed-hamdan-try-150kmph-sky-pod-in-dubai/ar-BBTqY2G — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.197.219.110 (talk) 20:26, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- On RTA site is said that "Dubai’s Roads and Transport Authority (RTA) has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Skyway Greentech Company" and there is Yunitsky on photo so, yes SkyWay's companies are involved. Here is the link:
- https://www.rta.ae/wps/portal/rta/ae/home/news-and-media/all-news/NewsDetails/mou-with-skyway-greentech-to-develop-sky-pod-network
- I cannot open it but it is indexed by Google and opens through Google Translate.
- Here is another source saying the same (news site): http://meconstructionnews.com/33441/rta-signs-mou-with-skyway-for-sky-pod-suspended-transport-network
- There is also a video where Yunitsky says that UAE building company plans to finish the construction of the first road in April in Sharja. Another project is in Dubai but there is no information about terms. Just FYI. Dron007 (talk) 23:53, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks so much; well spotted. If even one of the references checks out, 'the United Arab Emirates' can be included in paragraph 3 of the introduction with the other countries that have signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the SkyWay group. I don't know where else though because at least according to these references, they haven't been caught out doing something irregular yet! –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 00:50, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- The RTA reference really does look like a verifiable one. The link opens fine for me and seems like one that comes from the UAE and not from SkyWay. But these people are good at creating misleading links and this whole subject has got made worried about making a mistake. Can someone else confirm this and if deemed valid include it? –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 00:50, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for these links - I used RTA reference to add the UAE to the third paragraph. Other references may useful in the development of the body of the article as it is later extended when we find more references on their marketing techniques. Kind regards -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 00:42, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- The RTA reference really does look like a verifiable one. The link opens fine for me and seems like one that comes from the UAE and not from SkyWay. But these people are good at creating misleading links and this whole subject has got made worried about making a mistake. Can someone else confirm this and if deemed valid include it? –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 00:50, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks so much; well spotted. If even one of the references checks out, 'the United Arab Emirates' can be included in paragraph 3 of the introduction with the other countries that have signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the SkyWay group. I don't know where else though because at least according to these references, they haven't been caught out doing something irregular yet! –Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 00:50, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- How about these links?
1) "...The vehicles, invented by Mr Yunitskiy’s company Skyway and displayed at the World Government Summit in Dubai yesterday, would move high above the ground along a specially designed network of overpasses"
2) Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid takes a seat in Dubai's new Sky Pods (with photos):
https://www.thenational.ae/uae/transport/sheikh-mohammed-bin-rashid-takes-a-seat-in-dubai-s-new-sky-pods-1.824537 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.197.219.110 (talk) 06:22, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks everyone for bringing up this issue and providing us with so many sources. Because of these references I've included the UAE as one of the countries in the 'Unrealized projects' of the article. The RTA article states that in February 2019 'Skyway Greentech Company' signed an MoU with Dubai's RTA. This company will build 'Sky Pods' there. Yunitskiy himself is pictured in the photo signing this deal. It seems fairly unambiguous that 'Skyway Greentech Company' is one of the SkyWay Group companies. Other articles confirm this same information. The conclusion is the 'Skyway Greentch Company' is without ambiguity one of the SkyWay Group. Unfortunately it doesn't actually say this anywhere (yet). Of course, the SkyWay company websites refers to the 'Skyway Greentech Company' as their own. But this website is an unverifiable source. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 15:01, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- In the light of all these references, also, it seems like we should probably include the 'SkyPóds' as one of the test sites even if it has been deconstructed and even if it was used as marketing rather than actual demonstration. It seems, after all, that they did build something else somewhere. I'll check the references we already have above for discussion of the technological park but include any new references to any external sources below (that are not published by SkyWay themselves, of course). If there are other places something was actually built for display, it should probably be mentioned. The problem is finding verifiable resources. Press releases from technology fairs don't really mean anything along with publicity photos from events. Critical descriptions of what these projects looked like and how effective they were. In fact, for every technological test site where something was actually built we should probably have a different 'test site' entry with short descriptions from verifiable sources. Start a new discussion thread for each new site but please only start it if you have verifiable references first. Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 11:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- It seems that they presented two model 'sky pod' taxi unicars at a governmental summit, they signed a MoU and they opened a construction site for testing in Sharjah. This is, in any case, what SkyWay themselves had to say about it - how much of this is actually true remains arguable until we have verifiable sources. Also, seeing that not even SkyWay is claiming yet that that they've created a test site, we can't really put one there yet. Just examples of the technology at a Government Summit that don't move anywhere don't actually count as 'testing' I think. Keep posting your results here.
- "The SkyWay Innovation Center should become part of a large research and development center located at the Sharjah campus. This will be a showroom for the Middle East region and a functioning transport line for local campuses. Preparations for its construction began in the spring of 2018. The specialists of SkyWay Technologies Co. designed and coordinated with the Arab side all the nuances of the future innovation center and convinced them to leave in the project all the know-how, not familiar to local consultants. At the end of September 2018, the opening of the site for building the Innovation Center took place. If priorities do not change, the first stage will be completed in 2019. In parallel, the designers were creating new models of transport for the local inhospitable climate."
- Dubai Sky Pods is not a test site but a futuristic transportation system. It looks like localization/branding of Skyway. We can see this label and logo printed on Skyway vehicles exhibited in Dubai. Nothing new was built for that. At the same time they are building new test site in Sharja and showed a couple of videos from there. They planned to show something in April 2019 but in the video there was only a basement of some building. I couldn't found any secondary source supporting this information.Dron007 (talk) 19:32, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
United Kingdom
The SkyWay Group has various shell companies registered in London such as "First Skyway Invest Group Limited" and "SWIG International Ltd.".
The company "Global Transnet UK Ltd."[127] directed by Armands Murniecks but owned by Yunitskiy has been observed in insider trading with the SkyWay company on a fictional planned project between Thurso in Scotland and London.[128] -Zachar (talk) 12:36, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
One of the TUT.By articles (the original viewable here: [129], translation below) discusses Cliff, a SkyWay investor from Wolverhampton in the United Kingdom who attended the EcoFest in August 2018. This suggests that they are also canvassing small investors in this country.
Any references relating to the activities of SkyWay in the United Kingdom can be posted below.
Vietnam
It has been claimed that SkyWay is extending its operations to Vietnam. I suppose it's not all that surprising. I read this information in an anecdotal (wholly negative) description of their operations. Verifiable references are, however, still lacking. According to one of the SkyWay websites they had a meeting there in June and July 2018. Lo and behold there are SkyWay facebook pages and websites in Vietnamese as well.[130]. If they only had meetings there and there are no verifiable references about these meetings, we can't really include anything about this in the article. But if you find any verifiable resources please include them below. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 20:53, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- Here is a SkyWay marketing film in Vietnamese published on a Vietnamese news site. The title of the article is Vietnamese entrepreneur presents a Belarusian transport dream. It was published on July 7 2018. The accompanying text is "Long on claims and short on details, the 'Skyway' projects a three-hour ride from Hanoi to Ho Chi Minh City." [131] I still can't find any links to suggest that they have actually entered negotiations with anyone there yet. -Zachar Laskewicz (talk) 23:17, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- This article 528607 confirms again that such technologies cannot be implemented immediately. Time, tests and improvements are required. The latest ones require financing. This is simple formula of technology venture start up. So why to blame it for being “scam”, ”pyramid” while it shows its real work? It’s strange you’re focused just on SkyWay hoaxing. However none another invention like for example Hyperloop mentioned in this article too, looking more fantastic and hardly realizable, are touched by you. This fact indirectly confirms as the SkyWay critics publishing as their supports engagement --George Marshal (talk) 20:13, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Below follows a translation of this recent post which includes photos of Yunitskiy giving a presentation in Hanoi.[132]
It should be noted here that this article is about Yunitskiy’s presentation which provides no independent assessment or evaluation of SkyWay technology.
New solution for Vietnam traffic: Yunitskiy in Hanoi (6 May 2019
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Tàu điện chạy trên ray dây: Giải pháp mới cho giao thông Việt Nam? Electric train running on rope line: New solution for Vietnam traffic? 6 May 2019 by Trong Dat Many people know about Elon Musk - Tesla's CEO with a project called Hyperloop. This is a futuristic transport solution when it will help transport people and goods with a vacuum tube at the same speed as an airplane. However, Elon Musk is not the only person with the ambition to change the way people engage in traffic. Direct competitors with Hyperloop are Skyway - a company based in Belarus. Skyway's head is Anatoli Yunitski - an inventor, author of more than 200 scientific works and 150 inventions. IMAGE: photo of Yunitskiy in Vietnam TEXT: Mr. Anatoli Yunitski - who invented the technology of ships running on wire rails. Photo: Trong Dat Recently, Anatoli Yunitski appeared in Vietnam to introduce the Unitski Rail (Unitski Rail) Unitski Rail. The expert, who was a member of the Soviet non-service association, believes that railroad transport technology will change the way people move and transport goods in the coming years. The difference of wire rail transport lies in the fact that instead of being placed on the ground, the tracks will be specially designed to be aerial. Attached to this rail system are iron-wheeled cabins. The cabin can be used to carry people or goods. Passenger capacity of cabins ranges from 2 to 28 people, depending on installation needs. They can also be joined together to form a suspension train with a capacity of 84-168 people. IMAGE: Yunitskiy speaking in front of a projected image of computer-generated SkyWay tracks TEXT: Models of cabins or "wagons" run on rails. Photo: Trong Dat The engines of these cabins use a variety of fuels and energy. If electricity is used, they can be energized by two ways, by rail or through batteries mounted on each cabin. Depending on the needs, the manufacturer can provide charging cabins right at the station every time they pick up and drop off guests. SkyWay also developed a model that helps generate electricity directly on cabins using generators that run hydrogen. According to Anatoli Yunitski, even if the road is smooth, the wheels still ensure the grip with the rails through the auxiliary wheel system. Therefore, wire rope transport technology Unitski can bring the cabin moving at a slope of 45 degrees, even going perpendicular to the vertical. The speed at which the cabins can reach can reach 120-150km / h if running in the city. With a super fast cabin of 4 - 24 people, its speed can be up to 500km / h. SkyWay 2-way transport capacity reaches 720,000 passengers / day. Is the electric train available in Vietnam feasible? Exchange with Pv. VietNamNet, Anatoli Yunitski said that traffic congestion is a big problem that populated cities need to solve. The use of overhead transport systems is a solution to this. "The above vehicles do not save land area, reduce the cost of site clearance, environmentally friendly, fast construction time and especially very low investment costs", the general engineer Belarus said. IMAGE: Yunitskiy pointing at a complex projected image of SkyWay string technology TEXT: SkyWay's general architect, Anatoli Yunitski, shared about the similarity between the technology of trains running on ropes and cable-stayed bridges. Photo: Trong Dat Anatoli Yunitski said that the investment cost for each of these rails is only about US $ 2-5 million. This amount is only 1/25 if compared to high speed trains running on magnetic mattresses (USD 50 million / km). It is also 10 to 15 times cheaper than Tesla's Hyperloop, and 3-5 times cheaper than Israel's SkyTran. According to Mr. Anatoli Yunitski, wire rails technology is the same as road, rail or air transport. However, this technology allows deploying in all terrain conditions, from many rivers, mountains or even connecting structures on the sea. "This technology is currently deployed in Belarus. Recently, an agreement to build 15km of wire tracks was signed by SkyWay with the United Arab Emirates (UAE). SkyWay recently had an authorized representative in Vietnam. Vietnam may consider economic benefits if it wants to test this type of transport, ”said Anatoli Yunitski. FILM: EcoTechnoPark promotion film with Vietnamese subtitles TEXT: How to operate "train cars" when running on a rope track. Commenting on this technology, Mr. Hoang Kim Anh - Deputy Head of Hanoi Urban Railway Management said that the rail line technology is a new transport idea with many preeminent features such as low cost, time. Short construction time. With the current traffic situation of Hanoi, the Urban Railway Management Board is looking for solutions to minimize traffic congestion. The implementation of Metro lines in the capital area is being implemented but currently has some construction progress issues. According to Hoang Kim Anh: “The electric train technology on the wire can open a new direction for us in the future. However, it will take a long time to verify and evaluate the effectiveness before using this technology in Vietnam. ” |
See the original Onliner.by article “Elon Musk is bullshit bring me the money…” to hear Musk’s work utterly eviscerated by Yunitskiy saying he is a liar, a cheat and a poseur who was undeservingly made a billionaire.[133]
SkyWay Marketing - Cryptocurrencies
SkyWay appears to be offering cryptocurrencies which it will sell as some type of investment opportunity.
They have also offered 'Education Investment Products' which are still present on their investment portfolios and websites.
- At a motivated sales meeting on 12 May 2018 in Wellington New Zealand, the SkyWay Invest Group had the following to say: [134]
- "Skyway Invest Group offer a wide range of financial education products that allow you to earn while you learn and even give you a leg up into the world of Investing and finance."
According to BehindMLM, a recent SkyWay motivated sales meeting in Malaysia explained this funding of 'CryptoUnit' returns as being based on: "real estate in Russia, Skyway Capital shares, cryptocurrency, land, shares (in Visa, Mastercard, Twitter, Facebook, Fedex and 'SperBank'), energy, 'cash' and a gold mine in Ghana." Here SkyWay presents itself as some type of 'Global Investment Consortium':[135].
The following reference entitled "Suspect Skyway Capital Investment Fraud in the Making as New CryptoUnits, Tokens Introduced" can be viewed here: [136]. This sources suggests that "The platform recently announced its move toward Skyway tokens and CryptoUnits, and some surmise that it has to do with the company’s low cash flow."
SkyWay may be using plausible deniability to on one the hand distance itself from this practice on one website like this [137] where it says that "In the network appeared the so-called crypto currency 'SWcoin'. It does not have anything to do with SkyWay technology. We strongly recommend you to ignore it and similar projects." On the other to embrace it by saying that it "will be worth more than BitCoin" on another SkyWay website: [138] or here: [139] where a "cryptoconference" event is celebrated "dedicated to the market of cryptocurrency, mining and ICO [initial coin offering]." SkyWay use this argument here: [140].
When there are enough verifiable references mentioning this topic it should be included in the 'Marketing' section.-Zachar (talk) 10:24, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Here is an event in Hamilton, New Zealand, where the SkyWay Invest Group promoted their CryptoUnits: [141]. This what they have to say about the event: "Join us for an information session about our new Crypto Unit. A security token backed by real assets, and generating monthly dividends." –Zachar (talk) 13:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- 30 March 2019 in Perth (Western Australia) a big event was held in The Rise in Maylands by the SkyWay Invest Group Asia-Pacific. They announced the following about this event "SWIG CryptoUnit... No More Confusion! ANDREW HAWKES will present the full explanation and confirm the exact details presented by Andrey Khovratov and Mila Serdjukova last week."
- This is a request for verifiable references on this aspect of the company's marketing and financing. Zachar (talk) 21:17, 15 April 2019 (U
- Possible update to 'marketing' heading based on new information concerning 'cryptocurrencies'. Please help improve the text with your edits or suggestions below:
- Early in 2019 the SkyWay Group started marketing cryptocurrencies in the form of SkyWay Tokens and CryptoUnits. They claim that this new investment product is based on the value of real assets and that it will generate monthly dividends.[142][143]. Claims they make about the value and the earning potential of these cryptocurrencies, however, have been disputed.[144][145].
- -Zachar (talk) 21:35, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Possible update to 'marketing' heading based on new information concerning 'cryptocurrencies'. Please help improve the text with your edits or suggestions below:
- Note the similar wording of the 'educational packages' offered by the company OneCoin which has since been stopped from the illegal and fraudulent sale of investment products: "According to OneCoin, its main business is selling educational material for trading. Members are able to buy educational packages ranging from 100 euros to 118,000 euros.[10] Each package includes "tokens" which can be assigned to "mine" OneCoins."
Potential Sources of Technical Information
- This post concerns a monograph by Anatoly Yunitskiy written in 1995 and self-published again in 2017. Its title translates to STRING TRANSPORT SYSTEMS: on earth and in space. Here's a PDF of the second section: [146] You can also read what a SkyWay promotional site has to say about an upcoming English translation here: [147]. Zachar (talk) 16:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
The following list of articles cite a seminal work by Yunitskiy on his technology. They were found via the Google Search Engine.
- Струнные транспортные системы: на Земле и в космосе (1995)
Google Translation of these results:
Eurasian integration: the Republic of Kazakhstan as an example of state-building and participation in integration processes [151] (2015) by S.V. Biryukov, E.L. Ryabova
The aesthetosphere of the traditional culture in the noosphere concept: the Cossacks of Stavropol [152] by M.I. Vojvodina - Stavropol: AGRUS, 2015. – 160 p., 2015 - volgmed.ru
MOVEMENT OF A LOAD WITH A CONSISTORED MASS ON A FLEXIBLE STRETCHED SPACE [153]by O.V. Titiora
Prospects for the development of SkyWay flyover in the Urals [154] (2018) by M.V. Dunaeva, S.A. Voloshina, A.L. Biryukov
INNOVATIVE TRANSPORT TECHNOLOGIES OF THE XXI CENTURY IN THE SERVICE OF THE TOURIST AND RECREATIONAL COMPLEX [155] (2019) by M.L. Nekrasova
The movement of cargo with a sprung mass on a flexible stretched span [156] (2003) by O.V. Tityra
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Sincerely, talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 07:13, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
PDF pages of the first math-heavy chapter of "Струнные транспортные системы: на Земле и в космосе" now translated into English can be found at http://yunitskiy.com/news/2019/news20190414_en.htm
Summary below:
14 April 2019 Dynamic model and estimated parameters of transport modules motion on the string transport line The publication of a scientific edition by Anatoly Yunitskiy "String Transport Systems: on Earth and in Space" continues. The fundamental scientific paper sets out the theory, state of development, prospects and main results of the studies of high-speed land transportation, which moves along a string track structure, and non-rocket space transport in the form of a circular string system, covering the planet parallel to the equator. Today's publication contains the chapter 4 "Dynamic model and estimated parameters of transport modules motion on the string transport line" of the 1st part of the monograph by Anatoly Yunitskiy. |
Sincerely, talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 07:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Why do we need all these Google results here? Dron007 (talk) 16:09, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Kmarinas86:You can make a point about Yunitskiy's work without including such detailed information about everyone who has cited it. A title with a link between brackets is sufficient. I included links to the original publication and an English translation of the title so that people know what you are talking about. But if you think a work is worthy of further analysis you can just included a reference to the original work, and then say that it has been cited in sources [x], [y] and [z]. Zachar (talk) 16:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- The search results were filtered so we can avoid use of primary sources. The sources can change with time, so it helps to know how to get them in the first place. Hence, I posted several stages of links narrowing the filtering progressively as a way of instruction. Also, most of the search results were not in English, and to display English translations should help the English-fluent Wikipedia community to find an impetus for digging deeper to find meaningful content for the article. talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 17:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC) Zachar (talk) 21:38, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Kmarinas86:You can make a point about Yunitskiy's work without including such detailed information about everyone who has cited it. A title with a link between brackets is sufficient. I included links to the original publication and an English translation of the title so that people know what you are talking about. But if you think a work is worthy of further analysis you can just included a reference to the original work, and then say that it has been cited in sources [x], [y] and [z]. Zachar (talk) 16:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
New project announcement in UAE
"We approved a package of Developmental projects to continue building Dubai as the world's best city. The SkyWay project, a 15 km Urban transit system, will transport passengers along Dubais skyscrapers thorough 12 stations..." - @hhshkmohd talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 15:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sky Way has referenced this announcement here. talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 16:20, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Posted by George Marshall: " His Highness was briefed about the Skypods project, a suspended transit system that links vital spots such as the Dubai Financial Centre and the Downtown with the Business Bay. Passing through the Happiness Street and runs up to City Walk, through tracks extending 15 km in length. The project, which has 21 stations and the capacity to transit 8,400 riders per hour per direction, offers an urban transit experience that features modern-designed pods passing through Dubai’s towers...." 201--George Marshal (talk) 20:04, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Realisation of such a project would probably be dependent on the successful testing at the Sharjah test site? I look forward to reading here news on any important changes to the Sharjah test site or real contracts signed as noted by third-party sources that are verifiable.Zachar (talk) 19:20, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not news area. To be aware on the project development and implementation I’d recommend to follow the official news of company. As for this place, it would be reasonably if this troll-like WP:G10 article was deleted or ultimately reedited. --George Marshal (talk) 07:45, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Realisation of such a project would probably be dependent on the successful testing at the Sharjah test site? I look forward to reading here news on any important changes to the Sharjah test site or real contracts signed as noted by third-party sources that are verifiable.Zachar (talk) 19:20, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
I agree we need to mention it in the article. We have Twitter message in the oficial page of Dubai's sheik [157] and wide coverage in media. Message says: "We approved a package of developmental projects to continue building Dubai as the world's best city. The SkyWay project, a 15-Kilometer urban transit system, will transport passengers along Dubai's skyscrapers through 21 stations." Dubai Media Office [158] (part of Dubais' government [159]) says: "Skypods, a suspended transit system that links vital spots such as the @DIFC and @MyDowntownDubai. The project, which has 21 stations and the capacity to transit 8,400 riders per hour per direction." and adds 3D rendered video. Other sources: [160] [161] [162] Dron007 (talk) 02:10, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007:What do we need to mention in the article? Instagram postings are not verifiable references. What Sheik Mohammed thinks or agrees to is irrelevant, even if his opinions are shared widely. SkyWay is using this new success as a reason for justifying more questionable investment from its 'small investors' around the world. If he signs a legally-binding contract to build something somewhere, or they actually build something at the Sharjah test-site, that will be important and worthy of mention. But Sheik Mohammed's opinions and agreements are meaningless if they don't actually result in a real contract (as opposed to an MoU which doesn't legally oblige anyone to do anything).Zachar (talk) 08:58, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- “SkyWay is using this new success as a reason for justifying more questionable investment from its 'small investors' around the world.” I really don’t understand why SkyWay company has not yet brought you to a trial for such a damaging “conclusions”. And what role of a “magistrate” or a “prosecutor” are you taking insisting on some “justifying” obligation of an enough successfully and rapidly developing and growing innovative technology venture start up? Enough reputable sources announced its building, whilst such legal documents as contacts etc. are unlikely to be available to public as they can contain as well commercial and/or technology secrets as confidential information of all parties of contract.--George Marshal (talk) 10:54, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- This is what SkyWay say on their own web page about the funding of their UAE projects: "However, as with other innovative transport systems, SkyWay Technologies Co. must first convince investors to finance the project." You can view this shameless self-promotion here: [163]. If they have the real investment of the UAE why on earth would they need additional money from small investors? SkyWay have been documented self-promoting itself with entirely fictional promotion around the world. They have brought unsuccessful litigation against journalists who commented upon such shameless and fictional self-promotion on the web and via telephone marketing campaigns in places like Minsk, the Crimea and Samara to threaten them into silence. But suggesting that legal action be brought against discussions on a Wikipedia talk page is inappropriate and ridiculous.–Zachar (talk) 11:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Since when crowdinvesting of a venture technology became a “shameless and fictional self-promotion”? Thee are many successful examples that brought various significant life improving technologies to the world: Today not only business but even non-profit, public, medical, religion, charity… you can ay everything use self published description texts advertisement etc. to promote themselves and it’s normal. There is no reason to blame them “shameless”, “fictional” “scam” and so on. If usual promotions give you panic attacks I’d strongly recommend you to see a doctor. Furthermore there is no phrase you mention on the page you’re referring there to. Rather, it seems to represent an English translation of French transport related reputable coverage article telling about SkyWay with UAE contacts for building both cargo and passenger lines.--George Marshal (talk) 18:04, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- Crowdfunding is not illegal. Selling 'Educational Investment Packages' to help customers "learn as they earn" when they're actually selling them gift certificates for non-existent shares was banned by the Italian regulatory agency Consob in February 2018. Please note I haven't called it either a scam or a Ponzi scheme. The Belgian regulatory agency FSMA says it has the characteristics of a pyramid scheme,[164] however, and the FMA of New Zealand says it could be a scam.[165] I invite you to read the translation of the Italian article where they do call SkyWay a Ponzi scheme and explain in detail why.[166] If you disagree please explain with valid references we can check. The link you provided is a press release for the Sharjah test site in the UAE for work which will take place in 2019 (but which has not taken place yet). It doesn't say anything we don't already know about a proposed project being negotiated. –Zachar (talk) 23:36, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- The project exists, the transport models exist and are demonstrated in movement and taking passengers in EcoTechnoPark that has been built and exists as well. Design engineering bureau exist, development and improving work exists 27, intellectual property exists too. All this evidently proves that the project exists. All this has been created for small investments in parts of this big project registered as a kind of pre-ipo shares. Thus your “non-existent shares” claim is invalidated arithmetically: you’re trying to divide a value (which the project already is) by zero that is undefined nonsense Division_by_zero--George Marshal (talk) 18:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- The SkyWay Group has not been allocated the necessary permission to sell its shares anywhere. The company claims that the intellectual property owned by "Global Transport Investment Inc." - a company registered in the British Virgin Islands (a tax-haven) - is worth more than four billion dollars. Many verified references included in the article question these claims. It doesn't matter if the project itself exists because the investment products they sell are entirely unregulated and can only be worth as much as SkyWay tells you. Pre-IPO shares cannot be sold on the open market. In no single verifiable reference has it been proven that anyone has made any money they didn't receive as the result of attracting other investors to attend SkyWay sales meetings. The link you included contains a set of the same self-published and unverified MLM promotion copied from SkyWay websites. Khovratov, director of SWIG and business manager who has a history in pyramid marketing and who travels the world promoting SkyWay investment, has been connected to legal action documented against journalists critical of SkyWay projects. Zachar (talk) 19:56, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- The project exists, the transport models exist and are demonstrated in movement and taking passengers in EcoTechnoPark that has been built and exists as well. Design engineering bureau exist, development and improving work exists 27, intellectual property exists too. All this evidently proves that the project exists. All this has been created for small investments in parts of this big project registered as a kind of pre-ipo shares. Thus your “non-existent shares” claim is invalidated arithmetically: you’re trying to divide a value (which the project already is) by zero that is undefined nonsense Division_by_zero--George Marshal (talk) 18:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Crowdfunding is not illegal. Selling 'Educational Investment Packages' to help customers "learn as they earn" when they're actually selling them gift certificates for non-existent shares was banned by the Italian regulatory agency Consob in February 2018. Please note I haven't called it either a scam or a Ponzi scheme. The Belgian regulatory agency FSMA says it has the characteristics of a pyramid scheme,[164] however, and the FMA of New Zealand says it could be a scam.[165] I invite you to read the translation of the Italian article where they do call SkyWay a Ponzi scheme and explain in detail why.[166] If you disagree please explain with valid references we can check. The link you provided is a press release for the Sharjah test site in the UAE for work which will take place in 2019 (but which has not taken place yet). It doesn't say anything we don't already know about a proposed project being negotiated. –Zachar (talk) 23:36, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- Again, SkyWay Group is not selling shares. I see no Share purchase contract proposed at the moment. “Procedure for Raising Funds from Investors: (i)Private investors will invest in the Project by concluding a convertible note agreement with GTI secured by the shares options of class "A» ERSS HOLDING, signed with UniSky.”… Agreement This is not a self-promotion, but official Convertible note agreement the company concludes with every investor. This procedure requires no special permission. Otherwise the company would be in conflict with law. And if you look more attentively this is SkyWay website who cites texts from third party sources. This is usual practice of promotion to use positive reviews of your project by other publications.--George Marshal (talk) 19:16, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- SkyWay is not selling shares because it is not a PLC and is not permitted to sell them anywhere on the open-market. It does, however, sell various other investment products to an unsuspecting market of small-investors, and the marketing heading in the article describes these investment products. Initially it sold promissory notes or gift certificates for shares that would exist once the company "goes public" and can legally sell its shares. Then it sold 'education investment packages' which Italy banned because unsuspecting customers received ... gift certificates for shares. Now they are selling 'cruptocurrencies' which Yunitskiy announced as far back as August 2018 at the EcoFest and they've been marketing on the internet. These cryptocurrencies will provide 'monthly returns'. These claims about their investment products cannot be true but this shouldn't surprise anyone as the SkyWay Group has a history of selling investment products that have are worth no more than the paper they are printed on: nothing.–Zachar (talk) 20:26, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- The official sources you’re mentioning above are based on hollow “characteristics of” and “could be” as always without any substantive facts. Meanwhile looking forward crowdfunding-based project opinion takes place too 0608. As for Italian article it represents just a blog-like essay about subjective unbelieves in this transport technology. However there are many “pros” articles that consider SkyWay as transport of future 377. --George Marshal (talk) 21:00, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Observe this reference (0608) for typical unrealistic MLM claims including promises like "SkyWay will buy your shares back after they go public", "investment is only possible for a short-time so invest now!" and that "prepayment of large-scale investors are already in place". Please include references that show actual independent research and not regurgitation of unverified claims SkyWay makes about its investment products or its technology. –Zachar (talk) 22:49, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- The Business Insider Italia article contains research on the company's history, negotiations in Italy and legislation passed by Consob. This article in Russian you posted (377) is pure speculation based on representations of the future present in sci-fi writing by Philip K. Dick, the film Metropolis ... and the string transport of Yunitskiy. Please publish only references which contain real information, research and not futuristic speculation or unverified opinions. –Zachar (talk) 23:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Observe this reference (0608) for typical unrealistic MLM claims including promises like "SkyWay will buy your shares back after they go public", "investment is only possible for a short-time so invest now!" and that "prepayment of large-scale investors are already in place". Please include references that show actual independent research and not regurgitation of unverified claims SkyWay makes about its investment products or its technology. –Zachar (talk) 22:49, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- The official sources you’re mentioning above are based on hollow “characteristics of” and “could be” as always without any substantive facts. Meanwhile looking forward crowdfunding-based project opinion takes place too 0608. As for Italian article it represents just a blog-like essay about subjective unbelieves in this transport technology. However there are many “pros” articles that consider SkyWay as transport of future 377. --George Marshal (talk) 21:00, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- SkyWay is not selling shares because it is not a PLC and is not permitted to sell them anywhere on the open-market. It does, however, sell various other investment products to an unsuspecting market of small-investors, and the marketing heading in the article describes these investment products. Initially it sold promissory notes or gift certificates for shares that would exist once the company "goes public" and can legally sell its shares. Then it sold 'education investment packages' which Italy banned because unsuspecting customers received ... gift certificates for shares. Now they are selling 'cruptocurrencies' which Yunitskiy announced as far back as August 2018 at the EcoFest and they've been marketing on the internet. These cryptocurrencies will provide 'monthly returns'. These claims about their investment products cannot be true but this shouldn't surprise anyone as the SkyWay Group has a history of selling investment products that have are worth no more than the paper they are printed on: nothing.–Zachar (talk) 20:26, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- Since when crowdinvesting of a venture technology became a “shameless and fictional self-promotion”? Thee are many successful examples that brought various significant life improving technologies to the world: Today not only business but even non-profit, public, medical, religion, charity… you can ay everything use self published description texts advertisement etc. to promote themselves and it’s normal. There is no reason to blame them “shameless”, “fictional” “scam” and so on. If usual promotions give you panic attacks I’d strongly recommend you to see a doctor. Furthermore there is no phrase you mention on the page you’re referring there to. Rather, it seems to represent an English translation of French transport related reputable coverage article telling about SkyWay with UAE contacts for building both cargo and passenger lines.--George Marshal (talk) 18:04, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- What makes you state this being unrealistic? What exactly do you mean by “actual independent research”? Do you suppose any technology startuper will give all the technical details to another’s digging and making them available to public? In such case the investors will lose their funds for sure because none project will be implemented as it was designed by its author. And what “real information” are you insisting on while there are only links to blatantly trolling blogs and warnings from few organizations based on incorrect understanding of the topic from your own part. Please, look at Lithuanian prosecutors who, being well known Russophobes kept digging during 3 years and finally publicly recognized the absence of any fraud. --George Marshal (talk) 19:56, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- Research means information that is not self-published or speculation - any actual references that are not published by Yunitskiy and his company will be read and evaluated. If you question facts in this article please help us improve it by providing resources that are not copied from SkyWay promotion sites. The Lithuanian government did not exonerate Yunitskiy and the reason for the long investigation? Yunitskiy had fled Lithuania and has never returned, and the Bank of Lithuania rereleased its warning about the company. It is true, however, that the Siauliai project was cancelled because of concerns about security; but the Bank of Lithuania investigation had nothing to do with this: they investigated his company because of the illegal sale of shares to Lithuanians via the internet. These are not claims that are made on 'trolling blogs' but actually happened as verified by the many verifiable sources. Do you disagree? Then provide us with actual references from verifiable sources. –Zachar (talk) 20:44, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- This is what SkyWay say on their own web page about the funding of their UAE projects: "However, as with other innovative transport systems, SkyWay Technologies Co. must first convince investors to finance the project." You can view this shameless self-promotion here: [163]. If they have the real investment of the UAE why on earth would they need additional money from small investors? SkyWay have been documented self-promoting itself with entirely fictional promotion around the world. They have brought unsuccessful litigation against journalists who commented upon such shameless and fictional self-promotion on the web and via telephone marketing campaigns in places like Minsk, the Crimea and Samara to threaten them into silence. But suggesting that legal action be brought against discussions on a Wikipedia talk page is inappropriate and ridiculous.–Zachar (talk) 11:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- “SkyWay is using this new success as a reason for justifying more questionable investment from its 'small investors' around the world.” I really don’t understand why SkyWay company has not yet brought you to a trial for such a damaging “conclusions”. And what role of a “magistrate” or a “prosecutor” are you taking insisting on some “justifying” obligation of an enough successfully and rapidly developing and growing innovative technology venture start up? Enough reputable sources announced its building, whilst such legal documents as contacts etc. are unlikely to be available to public as they can contain as well commercial and/or technology secrets as confidential information of all parties of contract.--George Marshal (talk) 10:54, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sheik is the governor of the emirate. If he personally announces his (same as Emirate's) plans about Skyway I think it worth mentioning. For media source I don't see any differ between the Tweet/Instagram message and site articles. It is just a media of expressing their position. Sheik announced approving this project and some details which are relevant to this article. We don't have any original documents both in MoU and this case and in any way we cannot reference primary sources. Here we have good second sources. So I think we need to add information that sheik approved SkyWay project in Dubai and that it is planned to be 15 km in length and have 21 stations. Dron007 (talk) 09:41, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sheik Mohammed personally announcing something is very different to actually signing a legally binding contract with a company. The project he proposes is no different to what they were saying when they signed the original MoU in February. When a non-primary source documents the signing of an ACTUAL contract, it could mean something. They still haven't built anything at the the Sharjah site, so nebulous discussions about projects which have neither been officially planned or safety tested for actual viability is hardly significant. Good secondary sources? To what exactly? The fact that Sheik Mohammed approves funding of an untested project? I don't think so; at least not in the references you posted (I checked them). They are basically just the reposting of a tweet.Zachar (talk) 10:14, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- We have details about planned road from very reliable source and good secondary sources like Khaleej Times - oldest newspaper of Dubai. This information is directly related to the discussed subject and could be interesting for any reader of this article. We don't make our own assessments and judgements of the technology, whether it was tested or not, we just provide related material from reliable sources. So I don't see any reason not to include this information. Dron007 (talk) 12:34, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sharjah site is a separated project which is not related to RTA MoU and sheik of Dubai. We don't have enough materials to write something about it at the moment. So I don't understand how situation in Sharjah influences the project in Dubai. We don't know is sheik approved funding, he just approved the project. That is what should be mentioned I think. Dron007 (talk) 12:57, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- That's interesting! But why are they building the Sharjah test-site? For another project somewhere else? Here's a possible addition to the article based on your suggestion:
- ...In April 2019 the Vice President of the UAE approved a suspended transit system that would link vital spots in Dubai.[167] Zachar (talk) 13:20, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- Why any Sharjah test-site building relation to RTA MoU or its absence is needed to disprove this blatant defamation? Why SkyWay cannot develop multiple projects simultaneously aiming to use crowd investments as efficiently as possible? Anyway I agree with “don’t know’s’ of User Dron007 To understand such kind of details we need more reliable as well as official infos. However the approved project of transport line building in UAE is enough to completely refute all the “scam”, “pyramid” like and other similar blames.--George Marshal (talk) 11:55, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- The approval of Sheik Mohammed does not refute any of the valid accusations of the extremely questionable way SkyWay finances its infrastructure projects with the money of small investors. The shameless reposting of the tweets of the RTA on the SkyWay website, in fact, prove the very opposite.Zachar (talk) 12:48, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Why any Sharjah test-site building relation to RTA MoU or its absence is needed to disprove this blatant defamation? Why SkyWay cannot develop multiple projects simultaneously aiming to use crowd investments as efficiently as possible? Anyway I agree with “don’t know’s’ of User Dron007 To understand such kind of details we need more reliable as well as official infos. However the approved project of transport line building in UAE is enough to completely refute all the “scam”, “pyramid” like and other similar blames.--George Marshal (talk) 11:55, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- ...In April 2019 the Vice President of the UAE approved a suspended transit system that would link vital spots in Dubai.[167] Zachar (talk) 13:20, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- None pertinent accusation exists at all except your claims and paid-like scandal sheets defamations. Be questionable is not a ground for accusations. It’s “shameless” because there is nothing to be ashamed of. The group of companies are raising finances from small investors, transparently develops the technology, designs transport models that are already working and showing the capacity to carry passengers, builds test and demonstration polygons and is going to implement the new generation transport in such developed city as Dubai, so there is no any objective reason to accuse in some “cheat” or smth else nor to post really shameless WP:SYN WP:NHOAX on Wikipedia.--George Marshal (talk) 20:55, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- This is a discussion on the contents of the article. There are no actual accusations in the article itself. If there is something you disagree with in the article you should tell us why with new references to verifiable sources. There are many verifiable resources which question the extremely irregular use of small investors entirely unqualified to judge this technology which has never received external accredited testing or evaluation. If you think this is wrong you have to provide valid resources we can check and not arguments with unsupported Wikipedia policy accusations.–Zachar (talk) 23:02, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- The Khaleej Times reference is the best of the three because it is does not appear to be a retweet of what the Sheik Mohammed tweeted a couple of days ago (only we know that it is). We could also add other information about the length of the proposed track and the number of stops if you think it's important. Zachar (talk) 13:43, 2 May 2019 (UTC) Zachar (talk) 14:10, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've found the same information directly in the sheik's official site: [168] just to make sure all numbers are not misrepresented by media sources. Yes, I think it is important to add details (at least the length and number of stations) as it is the main project of the company now. Surely we'll update this information according to the news. Maybe it will deserve a separate section. Dron007 (talk) 15:34, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
- That's interesting! But why are they building the Sharjah test-site? For another project somewhere else? Here's a possible addition to the article based on your suggestion:
- Sheik Mohammed personally announcing something is very different to actually signing a legally binding contract with a company. The project he proposes is no different to what they were saying when they signed the original MoU in February. When a non-primary source documents the signing of an ACTUAL contract, it could mean something. They still haven't built anything at the the Sharjah site, so nebulous discussions about projects which have neither been officially planned or safety tested for actual viability is hardly significant. Good secondary sources? To what exactly? The fact that Sheik Mohammed approves funding of an untested project? I don't think so; at least not in the references you posted (I checked them). They are basically just the reposting of a tweet.Zachar (talk) 10:14, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Zachar (talk) 20:20, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- In the following recent discussion other people have already reacted to the Sheik Mohammed's tweets:[169] They sound like the direct reprinting of SkyWay promotion. Furthermore, it is suggested that RTA should be contacted to explain "how they can manage throughput of 8,400 passengers in one direction in gondolas for 4-6 people" which would actually require more than two cars speeding by every couple of seconds. Sound ludicrous? In each of the RTA posts and its verbatim dissemination all over the UAE, this extremely questionable fact has been listed alongside the 21 stations and 15 km track length (facts which have actually already entered the article).–Zachar (talk) 22:20, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Do you really believe that Sheik Mohammed would directly reprint a “suspicious” company’s promotion? Don’t you want to tell some absurd like “Sheik is engaged in a scam to earn some money”?? This is ridiculous. However seeing the “reactions” you’re referring there to that will be not surprise. If you came to such a conclusion I’d strongly advise you to avoid publishing it on the web. --George Marshal (talk) 20:43, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- No one suggested that that the Sheikh Mohammed would be engaged in a scam to earn some money. How could we possibly know what his intentions are? It was just mentioned that the Sheikh Mohammed tweet lacked any actual plan or contract and that it sounded like it was copied directly from SkyWay promotion. Zachar (talk) 21:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- But where have you ever seen such documents been openly published on the web? Multiple reputable UAE news agencies mentioned above and not, have been published the release about the approval of the project by Sheikh that should not be without learning the case in details.--George Marshal (talk) 20:39, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
- No one suggested that that the Sheikh Mohammed would be engaged in a scam to earn some money. How could we possibly know what his intentions are? It was just mentioned that the Sheikh Mohammed tweet lacked any actual plan or contract and that it sounded like it was copied directly from SkyWay promotion. Zachar (talk) 21:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- Your link brings to another mudslinging without any grounds that, being so fast and so negatively emotional reaction to SkyWay events looks like a kind of indirect confirmation of real company success. So quick publishing of such “deep digs” as well as their immediate bringing accompanied by flowerily sarcastic phrases to Wikipedia should be significantly paid, isn’t it? As for substantive question of passengers per hour number the most probably this is about a possible maximum total of 21 stations. Furthermore where do you have “4-6 people” information from? However if you make simplest addition calculation for 21 stations per 60 minutes even for 4-6 people you can get superior number.--George Marshal (talk) 14:32, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Please note that approval from Sheikh Mohammed is not "a kind of indirect confirmation of real company success". They still haven't built anything in Sharjah, approved any funding, signed a contract or in fact made a real proposal that can be referenced as a primary source. It doesn't mean anything until they've signed an actual contract, created legislation or actually built something somewhere. So they got the Sheikh to say something nice about SkyWay. How does this prove anything? -Zachar (talk) 16:32, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- Note however that the current changes are under the 'negotiation' heading. If they actually build something at the SkyWay Innovation Center in Sharjah and this can be reliably verified then it can be included in the 'testing' heading. If they actually start the project in Dubai - which sounds suspiciously similar to the completely unrealistic Sevastopol project which has computer-generated skyscrapers connected by cable rails - it would become the first real 'project' and be deserving of an individual heading (or an entirely new article). Considering how dangerous it would be to connect skyscrapers on cable cars that have not been safety tested anywhere, this seems highly unlikely. And Dubai has little to no regulation which means this is "just another level of pageantry." But the more publicity they gain from the RTA tweets, the more small investors they'll get to part with their money and invest in shares (or CryptoUnits or whatever they are currently calling their dubious investment product). -Zachar (talk) 22:25, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- In light of these recent postings questioning the actual validity of the RTA claims, I reworded the text to reflect what actually happened: the RTA tweeted SkyWay promotion about a dubious project which included unrealistic and unverified claims about SkyWay, and this tweet was shared verbatim all over the United Arab Emirates by verified news senders. If you really think that facts like the length of the proposed track and the number of stops needs to be mentioned (or the totally incredible number of passengers whizzing by in Sky Pods every second), observe the previous wording and make the necessary adjustments to the text. This should be easy for anyone to do. -Zachar (talk) 23:08, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think we should've changed the wording. It was correct. The important fact is that the ruler of Dubai approved the proposed project not that RTA posted some information. And I don't understand why somebody's opinion in comment in a blog may affect wordings in this article. Why not just use sources? Unrealistic or not it is not a typo, it was posted on official sites so let's just provide it as is in the article adding corrections later if required. And yes, I think the length and number of stations is important information for anyone who is interested in this topic. Why should we suppress it? Even if it appear to be wrong it will still remain an important fact to Skyway. Comparing to many other proposals and 3d renders like in Sebastopol and probably any big city of Russia and Ukraine the situation is absolutely different as only here the project is approved by the ruler of the state (emirate). Dron007 (talk) 03:27, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007:If you read the text above and still think this text should be included, then make the changes yourself based on what was there in the first place. I just don't want it to have anything to do with me. It seems to me clear what it is going on here. I don't think you need to mention this until they actually produce plans and legally binding contracts to build something. You could mention the Sharjah test-site when they actually build something there. You could even discuss actual negotatiations if they resulted in the signing of a legally binding contract with SkyWay if you wanted to (and I would support it). But if you want to give emphasis to an 'approval' for a nebulous project that sounds like SkyWay promotion and which contains unverified, unscientific nonsense, then go ahead and do it yourself. Other editors can read this discussion and have links to the sites which have formed our opinions. And just to be clear it's not someone's opinion in a blog that I used: it's the scientific ridiculousness of 8400 passengers per hour on a 15km track which renders all the facts completely unverified promotion that is repeated word for word in all the 'reliable sources' based on a tweet. You can pick and choose these facts from the SkyWay promotion if you want to. But you have to do it yourself (you can use the text I used or post something here you are are happier with and I'll correct it if you want).–Zachar (talk) 07:53, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- But Byelorussian EcoTechnoPark once was desert site too. Then by and by several test lines and working models already transporting passengers were built 33 34 as well as they announce to finish one more cargo track soon 1875 Furthermore the article itself has no reference to any scientific disproval for a simple reason that none exists;. There are only few financial organization “warnings” about non existing stocks sale. Whilst the “scientifically ridiculous” technology is already working. So why to not to dilute the HOAX by real facts covered by world recognized media MSN 1098459718 ? --George Marshal (talk) 20:34, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
- YouTube films and SkyWay promotion websites are obviously unusable. Latvia has been added today to the growing list of countries who have issued warnings about the SkyWay Group. –Zachar (talk) 21:00, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007:Here's a text you could post : "...that would have a length of 15 kilometres, consist of 21 stations and link vital locations in Dubai". –Zachar (talk) 11:01, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Zaxander:The wordings of the first part are almost the same. It was "the Vice President of the UAE approved..." and became "the RTA posted information about royal approval for a SkyWay...". But let's see the sources. Sheik posted it in Twitter, there is information in official site. Yes, RTA also published it but the essense is that "sheik approved" so RTA is irrelevant in this case. Moreover there is nothing about RTA in the source we provide so anyway it should be changed. What do you think?Dron007 (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- As for the numbers there is a difference between length/number of stations and capacity of transit. Length and number of stations are physical parameters related to the track. Capacity of transit depends on many other factors: speed, number and capacity of vehicles, delays, structure of the station (parallel routes). That's why I don't insist that we should mention it. But it is not correct to say that it is impossible to reach this capacity of transit with the provided route. It is reachable but with much bigger vehicles and Yunitskiy mentioned in some video that in UAE he was asked to use Skybuses with capasity of upto 300 passengers. It conflicts with the previous RTA announcements though so it needs clarification.Dron007 (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007:You're doing a great job uncovering this information and keeping the page informed about developments. I suggest you make these changes to the page. I fully support you making these changes if you think they are necessary but I'd avoid posting the information about the 8400 people if possible! Remember that the Sheik's tweets are not a primary resource like legislation, political documentation or copies of contracts. They are just copies of something he tweeted that sounds like it comes directly from SkyWay promotion. If the news site were sourcing an actual primary source, like legislation, contracts or court-case transcripts, this would be different. But they're not. Sheik Mohammed's word is not legislation and something positive he says about a SkyWay project should be taken at face value: he said he approved of something and he shared this information. This is not actual approval of funding or the signing of a real contract. I still don't think it really needs to be mentioned at all, but I fully support you doing it. –Zachar (talk) 15:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007:The RTA reference has been removed. Hopefully this works better now. If you want to mention the stations and the proposed length of the track, you can safely introduce these changes. Zachar (talk) 16:01, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Zaxander:Thank you. Now it reflects what was in the original source. I have restored numbers. Please check. Dron007 (talk) 21:08, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007:The RTA reference has been removed. Hopefully this works better now. If you want to mention the stations and the proposed length of the track, you can safely introduce these changes. Zachar (talk) 16:01, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Dron007:You're doing a great job uncovering this information and keeping the page informed about developments. I suggest you make these changes to the page. I fully support you making these changes if you think they are necessary but I'd avoid posting the information about the 8400 people if possible! Remember that the Sheik's tweets are not a primary resource like legislation, political documentation or copies of contracts. They are just copies of something he tweeted that sounds like it comes directly from SkyWay promotion. If the news site were sourcing an actual primary source, like legislation, contracts or court-case transcripts, this would be different. But they're not. Sheik Mohammed's word is not legislation and something positive he says about a SkyWay project should be taken at face value: he said he approved of something and he shared this information. This is not actual approval of funding or the signing of a real contract. I still don't think it really needs to be mentioned at all, but I fully support you doing it. –Zachar (talk) 15:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think we should've changed the wording. It was correct. The important fact is that the ruler of Dubai approved the proposed project not that RTA posted some information. And I don't understand why somebody's opinion in comment in a blog may affect wordings in this article. Why not just use sources? Unrealistic or not it is not a typo, it was posted on official sites so let's just provide it as is in the article adding corrections later if required. And yes, I think the length and number of stations is important information for anyone who is interested in this topic. Why should we suppress it? Even if it appear to be wrong it will still remain an important fact to Skyway. Comparing to many other proposals and 3d renders like in Sebastopol and probably any big city of Russia and Ukraine the situation is absolutely different as only here the project is approved by the ruler of the state (emirate). Dron007 (talk) 03:27, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
- In light of these recent postings questioning the actual validity of the RTA claims, I reworded the text to reflect what actually happened: the RTA tweeted SkyWay promotion about a dubious project which included unrealistic and unverified claims about SkyWay, and this tweet was shared verbatim all over the United Arab Emirates by verified news senders. If you really think that facts like the length of the proposed track and the number of stops needs to be mentioned (or the totally incredible number of passengers whizzing by in Sky Pods every second), observe the previous wording and make the necessary adjustments to the text. This should be easy for anyone to do. -Zachar (talk) 23:08, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
- Do you really believe that Sheik Mohammed would directly reprint a “suspicious” company’s promotion? Don’t you want to tell some absurd like “Sheik is engaged in a scam to earn some money”?? This is ridiculous. However seeing the “reactions” you’re referring there to that will be not surprise. If you came to such a conclusion I’d strongly advise you to avoid publishing it on the web. --George Marshal (talk) 20:43, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
ATTACKING THE TRAM - a recent Italian article on SkyWay self-financing and CONSOB warning
An article critical of the Italian negotiations and the entire SkyWay business empire has recently been released. It was written by Andrea Sparaciari and it was published on 1 May 2019 in Business Insider Italia. A summary of its contents is included below. More details on the Italian negotiations with individual references are included above in the SkyWay in Foreign Countries heading. The article itself includes however insights into how the company works and why the Italian regulatory agency CONSOB banned the sale of its shares and advertisements of its investment products. The original is viewable here: [170]
SUMMARY:
- The Belarusian SkyWay company makes lofty claims about its infrastructure technology which it promotes to politicians and transport ministers around the world.
- Italy expressed strong interest in SkyWay’s proposals. Negotiations were held in Brianza, Messina and San Marino (where an MoU was signed) but they were later cancelled or postponed.
- MoUs were also signed in the Indian State Himachal Pradesh (later canceled after protests from the central government), and more recently with the RTA of Dubai (UAE).
- People who sign up don’t seem interested in the fact that SkyWay posts false information about projects they started in Turkey, New Zealand or Lithuania.
- Potential customers probably trust the captivating 3D simulations widely advertised on the web or the EcoTechnoPark, more amusement park than testing facility.
- Anatoly Yunitskiy founded and directs the complex SkyWay empire consisting of companies based in tax havens.
- The MSUoRE released a report in 2008 pointing out the potential danger associated with SkyWay. According to the Economic Times in India this helps explain why so many companies in the SkyWay Group ended up dissolving.
- All the doors closed to Yunitskiy after this, so he decided to “save the planet” by self-financing the projects. This is when the problematic side of financing started.
- The SkyWay Group has headquarters in the British Virgin Islands, which in turn controls “SkyWay Capital” based in Saint-Lucia. This subsidiary controls global self-financing through crowdfunding.
- They entice investors to become an owner of the largest transport company in the world (which has not yet built anything) and promise returns of more than 1,000% on your investment.
- The SkyWay Invest Group, also based in Saint-Lucia, offers financial training packages thanks to which investors are promised 22% daily return of investment: “An investment expert will teach you how to save and multiply your capital”. They claim that since September 2011 at least 100,000 people from 35 countries have completed their investment training courses. The main principle they teach is multi-level marketing: the more new customers you bring, the higher you will rise in the company. This is a classic Ponzi scheme and warnings have been issued about this by the regulatory agencies Lithuania, Estonia and Belgium.
- CONSOB, the Italian regulatory agency, banned the sale of these ‘financial courses’ on 7 February 2018, because in reality the victim bought shares of the company, but without knowing it and without a shred of information.
-Zachar (talk) 14:08, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- When you see any references to positive articles about SkyWay you claim them “reprinted self promotion” pointing at “reliability absence” whilst your presented article full of criticism based just on criticism and of unverified “values” taken from nowhere. Otherwise let them confirm every digit “cited” in by verifiable official sources. Until then all your “summary” clauses are another troll like hoax--George Marshal (talk) 18:48, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
- Actually that's not really true. All of the references you include are checked for verifiability and content. Two of the references you have recently mentioned, namely the article in Vietnamese viewable here [171] and the published article on MLM activities in Nigeria viewable here [172] actually resulted in changes to the article and are now included in the list of referenced works. The Vietnamese article was translated and you can read the complete translation of this article under the heading SkyWay in Foreign Countries: Vietnam above. The article you include have to be more than just unsupported praise copied from a SkyWay website or from anything Yunitskiy wrote himself. If you disagree with any of the facts in the summary, you can react to them here but useful criticism has verifiable articles to back up your argument. -Zachar (talk) 23:41, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
- When you see any references to positive articles about SkyWay you claim them “reprinted self promotion” pointing at “reliability absence” whilst your presented article full of criticism based just on criticism and of unverified “values” taken from nowhere. Otherwise let them confirm every digit “cited” in by verifiable official sources. Until then all your “summary” clauses are another troll like hoax--George Marshal (talk) 18:48, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
Zachar (talk) 17:44, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Before changing the article, check the original or the Google translation below:
ATTACCÀTI AL TRAM (1 May 2019 - Business Insider Italia) ATTACK ON THE TRAM
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Attaccàti al tram… Dal Pirellone a Messina, gli italiani che hanno abboccato alla fantomatica monorotaia da 500 kmh di SkyWay Attack on the tram ... From the Pirellone to Messina, the Italians who took the SkyWay's elusive 500 kmh monorail By Andrea Sparaciari (1 May 2019) [SkyWay image] TEXT: screenshot of a rendering generated by SkyWay. YouTube Cities bursting with traffic? No problem, the SkyWay company has the solution: to buy one of its monorails that make speeding cars at 15 meters high at 500 kilometers an hour, with a frequency of one every 15 seconds. Moreover, the plants cost 20% less than a normal subway and are totally green ... It seems like a dream, but it is the "real" proposal that the Belarusian company has been promoting for years now to heads of state, transport ministers and local administrations of half the world. Too bad that such facilities do not actually exist on the planet Earth. Nevertheless, many believe SkyWay's proposals, only in Italy did they express strong interest - if not signed real memorandum of understanding - a pool of industrialists from Brianza led by the regional councilor Andrea Monti (who invited SkyWay managers to the Pirellone to present a feasibility project for a cable car between Cologno Monzese and Vimercate); the Secretary of State of the Republic of San Marino, Michelotti (who last March met in Belarus the General designer of the company Anatoly Yunitskiy with whom he signed a document of understanding for the construction of the San Marino-Rimini connection); the mayor of Messina, Cateno de Luca, who during the election campaign had passed off "The Flying Tram" as the panacea for the mobility problems of the Sicilian city. [image of a group of men] TEXT: Messina Mayor Cateno De Luca with representatives of SkyWay for the presentation of the "flying tram" project (later abandoned). StrettoWeb Look also And the "local" interested parties are in good company, given that memoranda of understanding with SkyWay have also been signed by the government of the Indian state of Himachal Pradesh (later canceled for the protests of the central state) and, recently, by the Roads and Transport Authority (RTA) of Dubai. The subscribers are not at all worried by the fact that SkyWay has not yet built a single one of the flying monorail promises. Nor does it advertise (non-existent) projects already started in Turkey, New Zealand and Lithuania. Probably the potential customers trust the promise, widely advertised on the web with 3D rendering and captivating simulations, that the first prototype will be inaugurated shortly in the "SkyWay-EcoTechnoPark by Maryina Gorka, near Minsk, a sort of Gardaland of mobility of the large future 36 hectares. It matters little if the construction of the first unit is sold for almost four years. But who commands in the complex SkyWay empire, a galaxy formed by companies based in tax havens, that invade the web with advertising and that you never understand what they sell, whether mobility facilities or packages of actions? At the head of the empire is the founder of "Skyway Technologies" (eye to the names of the companies), Anatoly Yunitskiy, who defines himself: "an engineer, author and general designer of a radically new type of transport systems called Unitskiy String Transport”, destined to revolutionize the world. The professors of the State University of Railway Engineering of Moscow did not see it in this way. In a 2008 report on the first prototype of the monorail, they defined the project "feasible and insecure" and string technology plagued by "a large number of system flaws and almost unrealistic ", as well as" associated with a serious risk to passengers ". Not surprisingly, therefore, as reported by the Indian financial newspaper The Economic Times, “Companies such as the Euroasian Rail Skyway System, the American Rail Skyway System, the African Rail Skyway System, the Australian and Oceanic Rail Skyway System recorded in various parts of the world have dissolved "into nothing within a few years.” But if the engineering side raises more than a doubt, a real concern raises the financial side of the SkyWay universe. Yunitskiy, in fact, after the doors were slammed shut by academics, has taken the role of the misunderstood genius who intends to "save the planet" by self-financing his projects. For this reason, in 2014 it joined the holding company "SkyWay Group of property" (which deals with the construction of the plants through numerous subsidiaries), the second holding company "SkyWay Group of Companies" with headquarters at 19 Waterfront Drive, Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands (a tax haven), which, in turn, controls the "SkyWay Capital" based in another tax haven, in Saint Lucia. It is through this latter company that it has launched a global self-financing crowdfunding. "Very soon we will get the first profit, which will be a deserved reward for the efforts of those who have worked to create the technology and confidence in the project of those who have become its investors," assures Yunitskiy on his web page. To entice investors to buy "bricks" of their (always building) monorail, it offers a return of 1,000%: "Purchases of company shares at a discount that is up to 500 times less than their nominal value, and when the company will enter the global market, you will get the capitalization of 1,000% or more ", reads - textually - on the site. And, thanks to the purchase of "shares of the company, you become an owner of a part of the largest transport company in the world" (which has not yet built anything). But still that's not all: thanks to another company, the "SkyWay Invest Group" always based in Santa Lucia, the Yunitskiy group offers financial training packages thanks to which a ROE is guaranteed, a return on investment, equal to 22% daily! «An investment expert will teach you how to save and multiply your capital, as well as show you how to choose the best tools for your portfolio. While creating the SkyWay Invest Group brand, we aimed to combine two projects: the Academy Private Investment educational investment project and the Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd. high-tech project Since September 2011, at least 100,000 people from over 35 countries and 4 continents have completed our investment training courses, "says their latest site. And to make it clear, they explain that by investing 100 US dollars, they will get 3,000 over a three-year period. The principle, in this case, is the "multi level marketing": more shopping packages, more profits. But, above all, the more neo-buyers you bring, the more level rises and the more you increase your income, thanks to other people's investments. And since the potential levels promoted by SWI are 24, growth (and gains) would be endless. In short, to say it with the words of the warning issued by the New Zealand Financial Markets Control Authority, this is a "suspected fraud". A classic Ponzi scheme. Such notices have also been issued in the last four years by the supervisory institutions of Lithuania, Estonia and Belgium. Consob also moved on 7 February 2018, prohibiting the sale of SWI, because instead of financial courses, in reality the victim bought shares of the company, but without knowing it and without a shred of information. Consob writes: “NOTED that (...) evidence has been acquired about the fact that the company RSW Investment Group Ltd., operating under the trade name of SkyWay Invest Group and having its registered office in the British Virgin Islands, offers users of its website (www. skywayinvestgroup.com) the possibility of registering for "paid investment training courses", receiving "gift certificates" which would give them the right to receive shares of the company Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd., on the occasion of future IPO of the latter; CONSIDERING that the real object of the offer is constituted by the shares and not by the training courses on investments; NOTING that on the site www.skywayinvestgroup.com SkyWay Invest Group also promotes a network marketing program, defined as "an excellent opportunity to make an additional source of income", which provides for the recognition of commissions ranging between 1% and 15% in favor of those who induce other subjects to join the initiative; (...) Resolution: The advertising activity carried out by Mr. M.T. towards the public residing in Italy through the site https://superblu.wordpress.com concerning the offer to the public resident in Italy of Skyway Capital shares ”. Previously, Consob had also blocked the sites www.lucastefanelli.net, https://superblu.wordpress.com, www.askiiholding.com, the Facebook page "AskiiHolding" and the companies Up4x Ltd (www.4xbanks.com), 4Xbrands Ltd (www.4xbrands.com), 4Xbankers Ltd (www.4xbankers.com). All useless: even today the web is full of so-called "financial operators" who offer the packages / actions. Among them there is everything: "artists of the lie", known for invectives against chemtrails, housewives and exponents of the extreme right, who did not hesitate to threaten the regional councilor Pd, Pietro Bussolati, "guilty" of having unveiled the other face of SkyWay immediately after their presentation in the Lombardy Region. [facebook post] Pietro Bussolati About 2 months ago LYING ARTISTS AND FLYING TRAINS, PART 2 Here are some excerpts from the Consob resolutions prohibiting the sale of shares in Italy of the Belarusian company that the League had called in the transport commission. It would seem to prefigure something similar to a Ponzi scheme, ie a chain system where the pyramid is scaled according to how many people join the network. Lately then the word "trash" is back in fashion, which perfectly describes the video you find at this link https://we.tl/t-C75mu6cS5q. There was also on YouTube, at this link ➡ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTsm-qvR-Ik, but they accidentally deleted it after this post. |
–Zachar (talk) 14:14, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Possible additions to marketing text based on recent sources. Please add your own edits and suggestions to the text below:
- After the negative assessment in Russia in 2008 official funding for SkyWay projects became more difficult as the academic world lost interest in the project. For this reason Anatoly Yunitskiy started marketing himself as a "misunderstood genius" and self-financing his projects to "save the planet". This led to the creation of offshore SkyWay companies which were responsible for the marketing of various investment products and crowdfunding.[BII2019]
- To circumvent these regulatory warnings SkyWay Invest Group - registered at an offshore address in the tax-haven Saint Lucia - started marketing 'Educational Investment Packages' (EIPs)[173] to help customers "learn while they earn".[174] CONSOB, the Italian financial regulatory agency, banned the sale and advertisement of these investment products in February 2018 because it turned out customers unwittingly received gift certificates for company shares "without a shred of information".[BII2019]
−Zachar (talk) 07:54, 6 May 2019 (UTC) Zachar (talk) 07:59, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- Proposed addition to Regulatory warnings because of specificity of what CONSOB did: it was more than just a warning, but involved the actual banning of sale and advertisement of a specific investment product:
- In February 2018 the Italian financial regulatory agency CONSOB banned the sale and advertisement of SkyWay's investment products.[BII2019]
SkyWay and the United Nations
The SkyWay Group have made various claims about the United Nations. They claim to have received grants from the United Nations, which some references have suggested were later withdrawn. No one knows what happened to the money, and I can find no actual proof they received any. The United Nations websites don't actually return any results for 'SkyWay' projects or the name Yunitskiy. Presently, they still use the logo of the UN-Habitat organization which they claim to be current shareholders of the SkyWay company. The intention here is collect actual verifiable references that attest to the involvement of the United Nations in SkyWay projects.
- On the European Urban Knowledge Network website Eukn.eu, we can find a UNCHS (Habitat) document[175] mentioning string transport:
"String Transport System Proposed for Russia" - Habitat Debate − Vol. 4 − No. 2 − 1998 − Sustainable Urban Transport
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An international project to improve communication infrastructure using the String Transport System is being considered by the Russian Federation. The String Transport System (STS), invented by Anatoly Yunitsky of the research centre UNITRAN, is a rope−and−beam construction using electromobiles with a carrying capacity of up to 10 passengers and 5000 kgs. It receives electric power through the wheels which are in contact with the current−carrying heads of special rails. The STS' optimal velocity ranges from between 300 and 400 km/hour. Traffic control is computerised, thereby reducing human error, which makes this a safe form of transport. In the long run, it is also a cheaper form of transport. The cost of a seven−hour trip to Paris from Moscow, for example, would only cost US$ 32 per passenger, much less than the cost of an air ticket. The proposed STS is also more efficient in terms of technical and economic indices than the high−speed railways of France, Germany and Japan. STS, suspended on piers 10 to 50 metres high, can easily avoid embankments, bridges, etc. and therefore reduces construction costs by up to five times. Most importantly, STS is environmentally more sustainable because:
The main “problem” with introdcing this system is that it requires heavy investment in the initial stages: To be implemented, STS would require at least one billion US dollars over a five−year period. But these initial start−up costs have to be weighed against the economic and ecological benefits of this means of transport. The above article is based on a submission by V.K. Storchevus, Head of the UNCHS (Habitat) Moscow Bureau. Some of the information was extracted from an article by Vladimir Sosnitsky entitled “The Road to the 21st Century”, published in Eureka, No.3 1998. For more information, please contact: V. Storchevus, UNCHS Executive Bureau 8 Stroitelei Street, Building 2 Moscow 117987 GSP−1, Russian Federation Fax: (7−095) 930 0379; Tel: (7−095) 930 6264 |
- I found this official document through the Google search for "daniel biau" "string transport" (https://www.google.com/search?q=%22daniel+biau%22+%22string+transport%22) which was prompted as soon as I saw Daniel's name at the document [176].
- Sincerely, talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 05:12, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Kmarinas86:Thanks for this! But how does this prove that the UN have invested money in a SkyWay company, which is the claim being contested in the geldthemen.de article? I think they gave SkyWay a grant (which they later revoked). Read about it here: [177]. But in this article they discuss the Russian federation possibly investing in a String transport project sometime in the future. It doesn't mention either the grant or the investment the UN supposedly made. -Zachar (talk) 09:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
- Also, the UN-Habitat (UNSHC) website does not mention SkyWay or Yunitskiy. This is worrying because if they did give SkyWay a grant, why don't they want to advertise this fact today. Yet SkyWay use the UN-Habitat logo as you demonstrated above on their website as one of their investors. –Zachar (talk) 18:01, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Kmarinas86:Thanks for this! But how does this prove that the UN have invested money in a SkyWay company, which is the claim being contested in the geldthemen.de article? I think they gave SkyWay a grant (which they later revoked). Read about it here: [177]. But in this article they discuss the Russian federation possibly investing in a String transport project sometime in the future. It doesn't mention either the grant or the investment the UN supposedly made. -Zachar (talk) 09:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
CRITICISM heading - verified and noteworthy published articles
A wide range of articles have been published critical of the activities of the SkyWay Group and its associates. If these articles are published by verified news senders and raise issues that are from real noteworthy documentation and/or research, and have led to considerable reaction (such as intense interest and discussion, legal threats or litigation against these news portals by the SkyWay Group) then they could be included under a 'criticism' heading. Below you can find translations or summaries of the contents of these articles, followed by the actual proposed text to the criticism heading which can be updated as new criticism is posted.
BURRENBLOG.DE Articles – internet fraud & phishing
There are a large number of publications posted on the Burrenblog concentrating on the possible criminal activities of the SkyWay Group on the internet. A number of these publications have already been references as they’ve been relevant to particular aspects of this discussion (i.e. the Onliner.by articles and court-cases) but references need to be made to individual articles and their contents. Although these articles were originally in German you can receive a cursory Google-translation by choosing your language of choice from the menu to the right.
BURRENBLOG.DE Articles – Internet Fraud & Phishing
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DELFI Articles – SkyWay in the Baltic Countries
Delfi (web portal) is a major internet portal in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania providing daily news and ranking as one of the most popular websites among Baltic users. In addition to the sites in Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian, this news sender also has sites in English and Russian which actually post different articles related to issued deemed significant to the Baltic states. A large number of articles were published after SkyWay started its activities in Lithuania and attempts were made to canvas Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonian citizens to fund SkyWay projects. A list of these articles are included below with summaries of their contents and the translations of significant articles.
DELFI.EE (Estonian) – DELFI.EN (English) – DELFI.LT (Lithuanian) – DELFI.LV (Latvian) – DELFI.RU (Russian) SKYWAY Articles
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GELDTHEMEN.DE Articles – investment fraud
There seems to be a great deal of disagreement about the financial aspects of companies in the SkyWay Group which many consider controversial. We need to have economists with knowledge of the way companies work providing input to this page. The German blog geldthemen.de explores this particular aspect of SkyWay, and it has published a large number of articles on this subject. Between October 2017 and November 2018 they published 9 articles focussing on particular aspects of what they interpret as unsupported technology behind a blatant financial fraud. As SkyWay partners began a war on geldthemen.de, they became more critical of them and comment on and analyse the way SkyWay partners use pseudo-arguments, sock-puppet accounts and even dead Russian figures as current investors. I translated the first article which can be viewed below. I’ll summarise the main points from the other articles as well. On request, other translations will follow.
GELDTHEMEN.DE articles – The SkyWay Capital Investment Fraud
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If you want to understand the economic and financial background to the SkyWay Group, the first in the series of publications is a good place to start. It was published on the 31 October 2017: [200]. Note that there are a lot of responses to this original post, but the writers argue each and every one in great detail and with patience, even the trolls who attack again and again with a lot of hot air. regurgitated SkyWay promotion and no substance. I’ve included a translation of the most recent argument from March 2019 which is by no means the best but it does summarise the issues discussed in this extremely long blog feed. The nature of these attacks and the fraud aspects of the company become increasingly important in the discussions. The second article was published on 31 October 2017: [201] The title of this article is “SkyWay Capital Fraud - Illegal, warn financial regulators”. It concerns the warnings released by financial regulatory agencies the world over about the activities of this company. It includes many countries that have not been mentioned on this talk page yet. The third article concerns an award that SkyWay says it has won. Its title translates to “SkyWay Capital and the International Transport Award ‘Golden Chariot’ – a fake?” and you can view it here: [202]. It concerns primarily the unsupported claims that SkyWay makes about its technology, and in particular the German SkyWay representative Chris Schuster who claimed that SkyWay Capital was awarded the “International Transport Award” from an organisation called ‘Golden Chariot’ that SkyWay is actually the primary sponsor of: “SkyWay Capital is the primary sponsor of the Golden Chariot Award”. It appears that this award is unsupported by the industry. Their next article was published 27 November 2017 and its title translates to “SkyWay Capital – Reactions to criticism – SkyWay Partner aggressive”. You can view it here: [203]. It concerns in particular the pages and pages of extremely aggressive criticism that was published in reaction to their publications. It concentrates on slander, threats and insults by SkyWay partners, in particular the unsupported rantings of Chris Schuster. It also explores various fake profiles invented on social networks to promote a negative and constant campaign against geldthemen.de, and the legal ramifications this could have for SkyWay. They suggest that people who are cheated by SkyWay Capital should employ a lawyer to get their money back. Their next article followed two days later on 29 November 2017 and its title translates to “SkyWay Capital Dropouts – doubt and exits resulting from crises of conscience”. Its subtitle continues: “SkyWay partners abandon ship and distance themselves from SkyWay”. You can view it here: [204]. On 17 December 2017 their next article came out. Its title translates to “SkyWay Capital News – New info on the SkyWay Investment Fraud” and you can view the original here: [205]. It concerns in particular the accident that occurred at EcoTechnoPark on 15 December 2017, during which a number of people were injured (some of them badly). Their conclusion is that at the EcoTechnoPark is designed to “keep investors entertained” but that it “does not seem to have any safety features that prevent rear-end collisions and collisions with other vehicles”. They further comment on questionable claims made by SkyWay such as the support of the Dalai Lama for their project, questionable investment programs and appearances on Indonesian & Russian television as potential publicity stunts. On 23 January 2018 they brought out perhaps their most striking accusation: that the SkyWay Group were using dead politicians as current investors of their projects. The title translates to “SkyWay Capital Lies – The Dead General, the USSR & the UN as investors” and you can view this interesting article here: [206]. The main point they make is that in order to encourage small investors, they need to have important figures who they can claim support their project. They use the example of the governor of Krasnoyarsk region A. Lebed who supposedly funded the Ozyory test project in 2001 which was later deconstructed. According to Wikipedia he died in 2002. The problem, however, is not whether or not he financed this project. He was listed as a founding investor in the First SkyWay Invest Group which was founded at the end of 2014 which means he was investing from beyond the grave. They also claim Soviet Union institutions which no longer exist helped fund their projects, as well as the UN as part of their “residential and settlement program”. There couldn’t find any indication that the UN invested money in SkyWay. Their conclusion is that these are lies to promote investment in Yunitskiy’s technology which has existed for 40 years but has produced no noteworthy results, and that Germans cheated out of their money should seek legal advice. –Zachar (talk) 13:18, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
The next publication came out on 10 May 2018 and its title translates to “SkyWay Capital – Experiences, survey – Review by our visitors”. You can view it here: [214]. Readers of this website are given the chance to vote on what they think of the claims SkyWay makes about its companies, including the marketing plans, their website, the business registration etc. Their highest score is 3/10 for their website and films. The rest are lower than 2, overall average is 1.8/10. At least 30 readers individual numerical analysis of SkyWay is included as part of the comments. Their last article was published on 8 November 2018 and its title translates to “SkyWay Capital – BaFin reacts” and concerns the BaFin warning on SkyWay activities in Germany. You can view it here: [215]. They mention that although the German warning had come at last, it was far too cautious in wording and far too late; but better late than never. THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE :
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ONLINER.BY Articles – claims & controversies
A number of articles were published on the internet by the popular and well-known Belarusian publisher Onliner.by about SkyWay after they interviewed Yunitskiy in 2016 and researched the claims he made about his technology and the testing facility he was building in Marjina Horka at the time. They were written by Constantin Sidorovich and made a series of bold statements about the inventor of SkyWay technology, the exaggerated claims made by the SkyWay Group about this technology, the questionable scientific validity of both this technology its new Belarusian testing facility, and the marketing techniques adopted by these companies to fund themselves. You can uncollapse the heading below to read summaries of the articles and further uncollapse individual articles if no translation is currently available.
The ONLINER.BY Articles – Claims & Controversies
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The first article was published on 5 September 2016 and was written by Constantin Sidorovich and its title translates to something like “Elon Musk is bullshit: bring me money – A Belarusian founded ‘a company worth $400 billion’ and is building a ‘superfast’ SkyWay near Minsk”. It concerns the testing facility they were building at the time in Marjina Horka, but the article reveals uncomfortable information about Yunitskiy and his controversial funding schemes. You can read the original here: [221]. Everything from the dubious nature of his science to the questionable sale of shares of offshore companies was brought into focus. Yunitskiy sued Sidorovich and Onliner.by for damage to his reputation.
This didn’t stop them publishing information about SkyWay and their next publication concerned the court-case. It was published 3 February 2017 and its title translates to “The author of SkyWay Yunitskiy took Onliner.by to court”. You can view the original hier: [222]. Yunitskiy is documented denying that he is connected to the SkyWay Group in court and cannot explain why his name is on a SkyWay business card. It also contains a lot of confusing answers from Yunitskiy about how his ‘400 billion’ intellectual property was shifted in ownership to his offshore companies.
The next publication posted 14 September 2017 includes a copy of an ‘open letter’ to the editor of Onliner.by. A translation of this letter, in which Yunitskiy regrets that physical duels are prohibited and calls the journalist Sidorovich a ‘lover of cock-heads’. I was only able to translate this letter because it was downloadable in its original PDF-format from the SkyWay website. You can read the original here: [226]. But you can also see the open letter in Russian posted on the SkyWay website here: [227].
Their next article whose title translates to “The Court rejected Yunitskiy’s appeal” and was published on 6 October 2017. You can view the original here: [228]. It basically concerns the fact that the Minsk City Court dismissed Yunitskiy’s appeal against their previous dismissal of his claim, obliging Yunitskiy was to pay all of the legal costs incurred by Onliner.by to defend themselves. This article also explains why it is illegal to sell the shares of SkyWay shell companies in the Republic of Belarus because they were not officially registered there. They further comment on the fact that the company that is registered in Minsk [GJSC String Technologies] has a total of 10,000 shares but further specifies that the company is not permitted to openly sell these shares. On 16 December 2017 they published an article whose title translates to "SkyWay loader and unibus collide in Pukovichsky district". It relates information about the accident that took place between a SkyWay vehicle and a truck at the EcoTechnoPark and includes graphic photos of the damaged vehicles. You can view the original here: [229]. On 18 September 2018 they published an article with a title which translates as follows: “Is it an April Fool's Day Joke?" What is happening to Yunitskiy's SkyWay” and you can view the original here: [230]. The National Academy of Science were contacted, and apparently this organisation has refused accreditation of SkyWay as a scientific organisation and they suggest that the SkyWay technology needs to be independently tested in real-world conditions by organisations with actual scientific accreditation. According to accredited scientists like Professor Vladimir Zylev, claims being made by Yunitskiy are unrealistic and unrealisable: he does not know when, if ever, simple gullible people who invest in the SkyWay will get their money back.
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PRIMECHANIYA.RU Articles - telemarketing & legal threats
Legal threats were made by SkyWay against journalists of the popular Crimean news portal primechaniya.ru (Примечания). They criticized SkyWay for promoting the funding of fictional projects in Sevastopol using telephone and network marketing techniques, as well as physical canvassing on the street and at promotional events. Here follows the translation of article that initiated these threats and three follow-up articles which also concern SkyWay. They are critical of fraudulent projects promoted by the Sevastopol branch of SkyWay (directed by Khovratov, the same man who brought the legal actions against Volga News in Samara), but also they recount the Onliner.by and Volga News litigation.
PRIMECHANIYA.RU Articles - Telemarketing and Legal Threats in Sevastopol
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The first article is viewable here ([233]) and was published on the 4 July 2017. It concerns a non-existent project in Sevastopol being promoted by telephone and network marketing, and the dubious nature of the whole SkyWay project. The second article viewable here ([234]) documents the attacks which began against this news portal almost immediately after publication. The third article viewable here ([235]) concerns an actual promotional event held on the streets of Sevastopol to gather the signatures of citizens and promote SkyWay projects with aggressive sales techniques. This article confirms the Lithuanian suspicion that SkyWay were selling worthless shares. The fourth article viewable here ([236]) concerns in particular the legal threats made against Primechaniya by SkyWay but also the dubious nature of fundraising techniques used by this company. It comments particularly on the fact that although these threats were not realised against Primechaniya, they were brought to the courts in Samara, but that Volga News information portal fortunately won this case. On the basis of these articles you could conceivably include an extra sentence in a proposed new ‘litigation’ section which says something like “Legal threats were also documented against a popular news sender in Crimea after they posted an article questioning claims they were making about their company’s arrangements in Sevastopol”. These threats are also confirmed in the Volga News articles. But whether or not this is considered significant enough to include by other users, these articles include confirmation of the Lithuanian investigation and the onliner.by and Volga News court-cases.
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TUT.BY Articles – testing the Technology
TUT.BY is a well-known and popular information and service website in the Belarusian and Russian languages. They also published a large series of articles on the Yunitskiy’s SkyWay technology and the EcoTechnoPark. Not all of the articles, however, are negatively critical of SkyWay. Some of these articles just report news of recent SkyWay events. And they also published an article by Mikhail Kirichenko, one of the employees whose specific job is to promote the company and has been criticized for posting false information about the company. You can uncollapse below to read summaries of each of these articles which are followed by actual translations which can be checked individually for accuracy and content.
TUT.BY articles - summaries and translations
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The first article the published was published on 30 May 2014 and you can view the original here. It concerns the reasons for Yunitskiy to develop his project in Lithuania. This was before the Siauliai scandal came to a head and his project was closed down for security reasons. Yunitskiy skipped the country never to return. On the 15 May 2015 Anna Ermachenok published an article attempting to explain the controversial funding of the testing facility from small investors they had recently started building near Marjina Horka. You can read the original here: [237]. This article describes the office complex centralized in Minsk. They also spoke to Professor Zylyov of the MIIT who he and his colleagues analysed in 2006. They concluded in a research paper that it would be unusually expensive and that high speeds would be unreachable. Other scientists suggest it would be possible in theory. On 28 June 2017 Ermachenok published another article on the EcoTechnoPark. You can view the original here: [238]. Although the EcoTechoPark is discussed, the problematic issue of investors is brought up and Yunitskiy explains why it was a mistake to attempt to get funding from the government although he does his best to avoid talking about investment: he can’t be blamed if investors lose money. It is also mentioned that the Deputy Prime Minister of Belarus, Kalinin, visited the facility and called it “questionable and unnecessary”. Yunitskiy brushes off any claims that his company consist of crooks, swindlers and scammers. On 7 September 2017 they published an article which includes interviews of engineering staff who have a history in formula-1 racing and go-karts. You could get the impression that this article presents a balanced opinion about genuine engineers who work for the company until you discover that it was written Michael Kirichenko who actually works for the SkyWay company as “Chief of News Services”. He has been criticized in the past for creating exaggerated and unsupported information about SkyWay technology on the internet. You can view the original here: https://42.tut.by/559095. His conclusions? People with a history in sport must be truly great people who work well together as part of an incredible engineering team. The next article was published on 5 August 2018 and was written by Dmitry Smirnov. You can view the original here: https://42.tut.by/603396. This article is interesting because it relates his experiences at the EcoTechnoFest which had taken place (and which takes place yearly) which opens the park to the public and has devoted SkyWay fans from around the world descending on the park to try out the technology. Although TUT.BY were refused an invitation, the journalist went anyway and commented on the international audience of entirely unqualified fans who seemed devoted to Yunitskiy’s untested experiment which they had actually helped bring into existence (as no government would ever pay a cent to fund a dangerous, untested technology). Highlights of his day included a visit to the SkyWay museum whose ceiling is adorned with the names of investors (the can also plant a tree with their name in the orchard). It should be mentioned here at this event, Yunitsky mentioned the release of a cryptocurrency at this event which will help the growth of SkyWay’s assets. The next article published on 20 September 2018 concerns the InnoTrans trade fair in Berlin and is viewable here: [239]. On 16 November 2018 are article was published concerning an employee of SkyWay who had resigned because of dissatisfaction with the company, telling them as much in his resignation letter. Later the company accused him of leaking information to the press and confiscated his company shares. You can view the original here: [240]. The most recent article published 2 May 2019 concerns the proposed project in Dubai which had been supposedly approved by the Sheikh Mohammed in his tweet. You can view the original here: [241]
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VOLGA NEWS Articles - legal actions in Samara
It appears that SkyWay is taking legal action in order to silence critics. Two articles were published in Volga News, the first in May 2017 [242] documenting the way SkyWay was financing investment in fraudulent projects in the region. They were apparently making claims about projects that were going to take place in the region as a part of telephone marketing campaigns to small-scale investors at home. The second article dated 2 March 2018 concerns the litigation taken against the publication which had brought the company into disrepute: [243]. The court however ruled in the favour of the defendant in February 2018. Moreover detailed commentary and confirmation is included concerning the court-case against Onliner.by in Minsk. Translations of these articles will be included below. These verified instances of attempts to silence critics with legal intimidation needs to be mentioned. These are not just threats: these are confirmed legal actions which were brought against journalists
VOLGA NEWS Articles - Telemarketing and Legal Action against Journalists in Samara
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According to the second article, although Anatoly Yunitskiy appealed the decision in Minsk, his actions were unsuccessful when the court confirmed its first findings: that Yunitskiy had no reason to suggest that Onliner.by had damaged the reputation of his company. He was obliged to pay all legal costs of the defendant, Onliner.by and the author of the article Sidorovich. |
CRITICISM Text
- Concerns have been raised about information the company has posted about itself to promote investment. These concerns include the value of its intellectual property,[1] the certification of its technology,[2] awards it has won,[3] excessive pre-order contracts,[4] the validity of its patents,[5] and people/organisations who have invested in the company.[6]
- Particular criticism relates to misleading information about proposed SkyWay projects. They claimed, for example, that a SkyWay project “was supported by the authorities in Mogilev” (a city in Belarus) but actual documentation from the city prove this to be untrue.[7] Similar misleading promotion has been documented relating to proposed projects in Russia,[8] the Crimea[9] and India.[7]
- In September 2016 the Belarusian news sender Onliner.by published an article critical of the SkyWay Group and the EcoTechnoPark testing facility being built at the time in Marjina Horka.[10] Anatoly Yunitskiy sued them for damage done to his company and his reputation. Yunitskiy lost the case in June 2017 and was required to pay costs incurred by the defendant.[11] He appealed unsuccessfully against this dismissal.[12]
- In May 2017 Volga News information portal, the Volzhskaya Kommuna newspaper published a critical article about telephone marketing campaign used for funding in Samara.[8] The company's representative Andrei Khovratov filed a lawsuit against the editorial board but in March 2018 the court decided against the plaintiff.[13][12]
- In July 2017 the popular Crimea news sender Primechaniya.ru published an article critical of a telemarketing campaign promoting investment in an unsupported SkyWay project in Sevastopol.[14] Later articles they published include information about legal threats issued by SkyWay employee Andrei Khovratov who represented SkyWay in the Crimea[15] and the unsuccessful litigation in Minsk and Samara.
References
- ^ https://tech.onliner.by/2017/09/11/skyway
- ^ https://burrenblog.wordpress.com/2018/02/13/skyway-tote-investoren-tote-lizenzen-und-tote-zertifikate/
- ^ https://www.geldthemen.de/geldanlage-kapitalanlage/skyway-capital-transport-award/
- ^ Cite error: The named reference
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was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ https://burrenblog.wordpress.com/2018/05/25/skyway-patente-obsolet-patentgebuehren-oder-verlaengerungsgebuehren-nicht-bezahlt-patente-nicht-gueltig/
- ^ https://www.geldthemen.de/geldanlage-kapitalanlage/skyway-capital-luegen-anleger/
- ^ a b Cite error: The named reference
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was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ a b ДМИТРЕНКО, Алексей. "Самарцев затягивают в "высокотехнологичную" финансовую пирамиду". ПокупкиСамара. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
- ^ Лучников, Андрей (4 July 2017). "Под пение струн: в Севастополь зашла новая пирамида?". Примечания.ру.
- ^ Сидорович, Константин (5 September 2016). "Илон Маск — чушь собачья, несите деньги мне. Белорус основал «компанию на $400 млрд» и строит под Минском «сверхскоростной» Sky Way - Технологии Onliner". Onliner. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
- ^ Сидорович, Константин (8 June 2017). "Суд отказал академику РАЕН Юницкому в исковых претензиях к Onliner.by - Технологии Onliner". Onliner. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
- ^ a b ДМИТРЕНКО, Алексей. "Sky Way Invest Group "приструнили" на 120 миллионов". ПокупкиСамара. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
- ^ Лучников, Андрей (3 March 2018). "SkyWay «приструнили» на 120 млн рублей". Примечания.ру. Retrieved 24 April 2019.
- ^ https://primechaniya.ru/home/news/iyul_2017/yunickij_skyway_sevastopol/
- ^ https://primechaniya.ru/home/news/iyul_2017/primechaniya_skyway_ugrozy/
- You could include the Primechaniya.ru articles which raise valid concerns about unsupported proposed projects in Sevastopol. Translations of these articles is included above:
- The popular Crimean news sender Primechaniya.ru published a series of articles in 2017 critical of the claims made by SkyWay about a proposed project in Sevastopol.
- –Zachar (talk) 19:01, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- "A body of published articles exist which are critical of the activities of companies in the SkyWay Group." - What references says just that? --CNMall41 (talk) 18:31, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
- This sentence which is entirely unnecessary has been removed. I think I wrote it to make sense of the new heading 'criticism' and to refer to the different sets of news senders which have published a number of articles critical of SkyWay, i.e. Onliner.by, Tut.by, Primechaniya.ru, Volga News, Geldthemen.de, Burrenblog.de, & Delfi. But this sentence is entirely unnecessary; the references should speak for themselves.–Zachar (talk) 19:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
- "A body of published articles exist which are critical of the activities of companies in the SkyWay Group." - What references says just that? --CNMall41 (talk) 18:31, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
- SkyWay use a meeting with the Dalai Lama again and again on the internet to promote interest in the project (see for example this post from 15 May 2017: [244]). The actual interest of the Dalai Lama has been questioned in some of the critical articles mentioned above, such as the Eesti Ekspress article viewable here: ([245]). This article on the Messina negotiations in Italy the Dalai Lama's support for the project is also questioned: "the Dalai Lama 'witnessed' by a photo on Facebook of the Tibetan spiritual authority next to Yunitskiy , which clearly does not prove anything, with a link that leads to a page ... with pictures of dogs (sic)." See the original here: [246]. An additional text could include the following text:
- ...These concerns include ... interest shown in the project by the Dalai Lama.[247]
- Currently SkyWay is claiming 164 billion dollars in pre-order contracts. See these claims here: [248]. Other SkyWay promotion sites suggest 400 billions in pre-order contracts ([http://www.skyway.net.au/). There is absolutely no proof that such pre-order contracts exist, but nonetheless enormous sums are attached to the following projects :
- [1] 60,000,000,000 Dollars - preliminary contract for the construction of the intercontinental high-speed track «London - Berlin - Moscow - Tokyo»
- [2] 4,000,000,000 Dollars - preliminary contract for the construction of high-speed track «Moscow - Minsk - Vilnius - Kaliningrad»
- [3] 80,000,000,000 Dollars - preliminary contract for the construction of high-speed track «Melbourne - Sydney - Brisbane» and further around Australia
- [4] 5,000,000,000 Dollars - preliminary contract for the construction of urban high-speed tracks to Dubai and Sharjah cities
- [5] 8,000,000,000 Dollars - preliminary contract for the construction of truck in Bolivia from «Mutun – seaport in The Pacific Ocean»
- [6] 7,000,000,000 Dollars - preliminary contract for the construction of high-speed track in Vietnam «Hanoi - Ho Chi Minh City»
- These are outlandish claims checked on 17 May 2019. They are still posting them today. The Adelaide newspaper The Advertiser enquired about these claims in February 2019 but their enquiries remained unanswered (see the text in the SkyWay in Foreign Countries: Australia heading above). –Zachar (talk) 12:52, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- The following text could be added to the end of the second paragraph on misleading, non-existent projects used to promote investment. Request for an additional citation to a secondary source that mentions these outlandish claims:
- ...Claims SkyWay makes about the billions dollars in pre-order contracts for the construction of high-speed tracks linking cities around the world[249] have also been disputed.[250][citation needed]
- The following text could be added to the end of the second paragraph on misleading, non-existent projects used to promote investment. Request for an additional citation to a secondary source that mentions these outlandish claims:
The CONSOB Warning Translation (February 2018) – Pre-IPO shares & CLNs
As of today the SkyWay Group is still selling 'pre-IPO' shares. See their website here for information about sale of this investment product: [251]. This is what they have so say about it:
- IT IS ENVISAGED THAT THE SKYWAY EXCHANGE VALUE OF PRE-IPO EQUITY SHARES WILL EVENTUATE TO SHARES AT ONE TO ONE WHEN FIRST LISTED ON THE U.K. STOCK EXCHANGE AND WILL POSSIBLY BE VALUED AT A MINIMUM OF 1 U.K. POUND PER IPO SHARE
Please note this warning from the U.S. Securities and Exchange commission viewable here: [252]
- "PRE-IPO investing involves buying a stake in a company before the company makes its initial public offering of securities. Many companies and stock promoters entice investors by promising an opportunity to make high returns by investing in a start-up enterprise at the ground floor level... But investing at the pre-IPO stage can involve significant risk for investors. And pre-IPO offerings targeted at the general public... are often fraudulent and illegal... Any company that wants to offer or sell securities to the public must either register the transaction with the SEC or meet an exemption. Otherwise the offering is illegal, and you may lose every penny you invest."
The investment products SkyWay is selling have not been registered anywhere with any officially recognized financial organization in any country. The pre-IPO securities offered by SkyWay are therefore illegal.
CONSOB, the Italian financial regulatory agency, refers to them as "gift certificates" but they are also known as 'convertible loan notes' or CLNs. It is a form of equity where investors are encouraged to 'lend' the company money by selling them these 'loan notes'. Because they can't offer shares to the public seeing that the company is not registered at any stock exchange, they tell the public that they can offer a 'pre-IPO shares' in the form of these gift certificates, promissory notes or CLNs which can be 'converted' after the company has "gone public" into real shares. They offer these 'virtual' shares at a discount and they base the value of these shares on the imagined sum of their intellectual property which they say is worth more four hundred billion dollars. CONSOB actually banned the advertisement and sale of this investment product in February 2018 because they were selling these gift certificates as if they were 'Education Investment Packages' which it marketed as 'EIPS' "without a shred of information". Here follows a translation of this warning, the original being viewable here [253]:
Translation of CONSOB SkyWay Warning - Resolution no. 20291 - February 2018
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Prohibition, pursuant to art. 101, paragraph 4, lett. c), of d. lgs. n. 58/1998, advertising activity carried out through the website www.lucastefanelli.net concerning the public offering of shares of Skyway Invest Group GIVEN the law n. 216 of 7 June 1974 and subsequent amendments and additions; GIVEN the legislative decree n. 58 of 24 February 1998 and subsequent amendments and additions ("Tuf"); RECOGNIZED that, following the supervisory activity carried out by Consob, evidence was acquired that the company RSW Investment Group Ltd., operating under the trade name of Sky Way Invest Group and having its registered office in the British Virgin Islands, offers the users of their own website (www.skywayinvestgroup.com) the possibility of registering for a paid "investment training courses", receiving, against this registration, "gift certificates" that would give them the right to receive shares of the Euroasian company Rail Skyway Systems Ltd., on the occasion of its future IPO; CONSIDERED that the real object of the offer is constituted by the shares and not by the training courses on investments; NOTED that on the site www.skywayinvestgroup.com Sky Way Invest Group also promotes a network marketing program, defined as "an excellent opportunity to make an additional source of income", which provides for the recognition of commissions ranging between 1% and 15 % in favor of those who induce other subjects to join the initiative; CONSIDERED that the company First SkyWay Invest Group Ltd., operating under the trade name of Skyway Capital and having its registered office in the British Virgin Islands, offers users of its website (www.skyway.capital) the possibility of purchasing shares in the Skyway company Capital Company, which, according to the aforementioned website, would guarantee, against an investment of 100 USD, a profit of 3,000 USD over a three-year period; NOTED that the related initiatives are also promoted through the site www.lucastefanelli.net, apparently attributable to Mr. Luca Stefanelli; NOTING, in particular, that on the site www.lucastefanelli.net the essential elements of the investment offered by Sky Way Invest Group are described and, specifically, the minimum amount to be paid for the purchase of shares ("very entry threshold low starting from 250 USD ") and the associated return prospects (" By purchasing a training package you get the company shares at a discounted price that is up to 500 times less than their nominal value. entry into the global transport market will result in capitalization close to 1000% or more ");and its address are not indicated, but only an e-mail address and a telephone number that was not active; CONSIDERED, therefore, that the purchase of shares is promoted by Sky Way Invest Group, through the participants in its network marketing program, in standardized and uniform terms, thus placing the public of savers in a position to decide whether to buy them or not , thereby integrating the requirements of a public offering of financial products defined in art. 1, paragraph 1, lett. t), of the Consolidated Law on Finance as "any communication addressed to persons, in any form and by any means, who present sufficient information on the conditions of the offer and the financial products offered so as to place an investor able to decide to purchase or subscribe for such financial products, including placement through authorized parties "; NOTING that within the site www.lucastefanelli.net the investment proposed by Sky Way Invest Group is presented in clearly acclaimed terms as a "very profitable opportunity" and with expressions such as to prompt a quick decision by the investor (" the sooner you become a partner of Sky Way, the better it will be for you "); CONSIDERED, therefore, that Mr. Luca Stefanelli, through the site www.lucastefanelli.net, carries out advertising activities aimed at promoting adherence to the public offer promoted by Sky Way Invest Group; NOTING, moreover, that the advertising activity is aimed at the public resident in Italy, as the contents of the site created by Mr. Luca Stefanelli are available exclusively in Italian; RECOGNIZED that, in relation to the described offer, the related prospectus has not been published; WHEREAS the art. 101 of the Consolidated Law on Finance establishes, in paragraph 1, that: "The documentation relating to any type of advertising concerning an offer is sent to Consob simultaneously with its dissemination" and, in paragraph 3, that: "The advertising is carried out according to the established criteria by Consob with regulation in accordance with the Community provisions and, in any case, having regard to the correctness of the information and its consistency with that contained in the prospectus, if it has already been published, or with that which must appear in the prospectus to be published "; RECOGNIZED that in relation to this advertising activity no documentation has been sent to Consob, nor does it appear to have been performed in compliance with what established by Consob in its Issuer Regulation; GIVEN the Resolution n. 20274 of 24 January 2018, with which CONSOB pursuant to art. 101, paragraph 4, lett. a) del Tuf has adopted the provision of precautionary suspension, for a period of ten days, of the advertising activity carried out through the website www.lucastefanelli.net concerning the offer to the public resident in Italy of shares of Sky Way Invest Group; WHEREAS the addressee of the provision has not sent his observations regarding the facts underlying the suspension provision; CONSIDERED, therefore, that in the light of the results of the investigations reported above and in the absence of evidence such as to lead to a different configuration with respect to that represented in the aforementioned suspension provision, the factual and legal circumstances found within the same shall be deemed to be established ; CONSIDERED, therefore, ascertained - according to the methods described above, detected on the occasion of the adoption of the aforementioned suspension order - the carrying out of an advertising activity related to the public offering of financial products sub species of "financial instrument" in violation to the aforementioned legislation; GIVEN the art. 101, paragraph 4, lett. c), of the Consolidated Law on Finance, on the basis of which Consob may "prohibit the further distribution of the advertisement, in the event of ascertained violation of the provisions or rules indicated in letters a) or b)"; R E S O L U T I O N: Advertising activity carried out by Mr. Luca Stefanelli towards the public resident in Italy through the website www.lucastefanelli.net concerning the offer to the public resident in Italy of Sky Way Invest Group shares. This resolution will be made known to the interested party and published in the Consob Bulletin. An appeal to the Lazio Regional Administrative Court is allowed against this provision within 60 days from the date of communication. 7 February 2018 THE VICAR PRESIDENT Anna Genovese |
Convertible Loan Notes however are regulated and require registration by financial regulatory agencies. No single SkyWay Group company has published the required prospectus allowing them to negotiate CLNs with the general public which suggests the SkyWay Group are committing financial fraud when they "sell" these unregistered securities to the general public. From their website viewed 22 May 2019, they are still doing this.
In light of this information and awaiting advice from other users, the following text on this subject could be added to the 'marketing' heading. Please feel free to edit the text yourself or add any suggestions you may have under the text.
- The SkyWay Group are still selling pre-IPO investment products[254] in the form of convertible bonds. According to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission pre-IPO offerings targeted at the general public "are often fraudulent and illegal" and any company that wants to sell securities to the public has to register.[SEC reference] No SkyWay Group company, however, has published the prospectus necessary to legally sell securities like these on the open market.
-Zachar (talk) 21:43, 24 May 2019 (UTC)Zachar (talk) 22:10, 24 May 2019 (UTC)Zachar (talk) 12:08, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
SkyWay Investment – MLM, Pyramid or Ponzi?
Multi-level marketing, also called pyramid or network marketing, is not illegal and claims are made all over the internet about SkyWay being a unique MLM investment opportunity. But this is only what companies in the SkyWay Group claim to encourage investment: how much of it is actually true? They also claim that the ‘Cryptocurrencies’ they are selling will earn them monthly dividends, i.e. it ascribes to buzz words characteristics that it does not have. I will argue that this is also true of any claims about association between MLM and SkyWay investment products. They are using the term MLM to refer to their own activities because it is legal but they are doing this to surround themselves with an aura of legitimacy. In fact, the SkyWay Group’s marketing is a type of Ponzi – a pyramid scheme which involves the redistribution of wealth to affiliate investors roped in to participate by those higher on the pyramid who have a vested interest in getting others to part with their money.
According to Wikipedia MLM companies derive their income from a non-salaried workforce selling the company’s products whereas earnings of the participants are derived from a pyramid-shaped commission. In other words, a company encourages salesmen to buy their products in bulk to start their own businesses. In addition to sale of the products these salespeople are rewarded financially for encouraging others to become sales people under them, hence the pyramid associations. Herbalife and Amway are typical examples of this with a controversial history where less-informed participants are encouraged at motivated sales and recruitment meetings to invest in starter packages to sell to friends and family. But SkyWay does not have a ‘product’ and therefore it cannot really be called an MLM company.
Anatoly Yunitskiy, however, is using plausible deniability to distance himself from the financial practices he has delegated to others. He encourages gullible governments by presenting his technology at exhibitions and sales fairs. After he has awoken interest in his projects through promises of free feasibility studies (see Dharamshala project) for projects and unique research opportunities (see the UGM MoU in Indonesia) that will not cost them anything, he gets government and institutions to sign investment agreements and MoUs which are not actually contracts that oblige no one to do anything. They take lots of photos and use this to help their canvassing network worldwide. They also get locals to invest in the project. People invest in his company and unwittingly end up sending money to offshore locations. Yunitskiy’s companies collect the money; they pay Yunitskiy and the other people at the top of the pyramid a hefty wage; these executives travel around the world and stay at five-class hotels attending recruitment meetings and giving sales lectures. Members of the public create problems when they complain to regulatory agencies who in turn release warnings, but the pattern is clear: immediately on signs of regulatory warnings, the mother company freezes the activity of its affiliates and they move to the next destination where the same process occurs again. They keep the money, and move their operations somewhere else. This pattern has repeated itself in Lithuania, India, Indonesia and Italy. But Yunitskiy himself distances himself from the funding which he himself initiated and directs from the central location in Belarus by making claims like the following:
- ”Me? I just make flying choo-choo. If someone scam using company name and happen to give me money, is not my problem.”[255]
Regulatory agencies have warned the public that that SkyWay could be a scam and that it has the characteristics of a pyramid scheme. They don’t actually accuse the company of being an MLM company. Confusing the activities of SkyWay with an MLM company is just misleading as they have no product. I have found no proof that SkyWay has registered the securities it is selling. And to repeat it here: CLNs, gift certificates and promissory loan notes are all registered securities that require the company to have a prospectus registered with the financial regulatory agency in the country in which the company is selling its investment products. The evidence is clear: SkyWay is illegally selling investment products as part of an elaborate financial pyramid scheme where investors are rewarded for roping in other investors. They have not registered anywhere to sell these investment products and are therefore committing financial fraud. They may use some of these funds for an uncertified demonstration park in Belarus but this is all part of the scam to provide the project with an aura of legitimacy.
We should call a spade a spade: include SkyWay as a pyramid scheme: a business model that recruits members via a promise of payments or services for enrolling others into the scheme, rather than supplying investments or sale of products. The activities of the SkyWay Group certainly has a lot more in common with a pyramid scheme than it does multi-level marketing. What do you think? Please post any verified references you find proving or suggesting alternatives to this suggestion below. Zachar (talk) 10:14, 26 May 2019 (UTC)Zachar (talk) 10:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
- MLMs are inherently inefficient compared to conventional retail due to serious overhead costs (i.e. too many people "running" the business). Thus the products they sell have to be hyped in such a way that lower cost alternatives are downplayed. Most products marketed as "exclusive" in MLM aren't that special, even the patented products which they often tout.
- That people are getting kickbacks for marketing products isn't the problem. There are many affiliate programs out there that compensate people for attracting business, and while most forms of compensation are not multilevel, the compensation can increase the more people are encouraged to join. With MLMs however, the compensation tends to grow geometrically with the addition of recruits. Therefore, a person who recruits twice as many people is likely to make more than twice the money. This type of compensation does not promise a rate of return on a deposit. When revenue declines, the MLM can make adjustments reducing the compensation. However, if they reduce the compensation too much, they may significantly affect their ability to retain customers, reducing revenue even more. It may lead to downward spiral which may bankrupt the MLM. One way the MLMs "save" money is by off-loading some expenses, especially inventory expenses. This delays the moment that they become bankrupt. They do so at the expense of their customers, who pay the cost externality of the product.
- Nowadays it is possible in some MLMs for "distributors" to avoid having to physically handle inventory by referring their downline to an MLM-owned online shopping website where they can shop for goods with markups set by the recruiter (Note: Amway does this now).
- A Ponzi Scheme also promises AND pays out geometrically increasing returns, however what it lacks is flexibility in setting lower compensation (i.e. less flexible than an MLM) and/or a value proposition (where often the "value proposition" is simply a promised return on investment). It also sets fewer barriers for its customers to earn this "compensation", so for the most part, the income is unearned, which means few levers for the Ponzi Schemer to pull in attempt to reign in the cost of compensating their "investors".
- The primary "Sin of MLMs" is that it is an inherently inefficient model of retail with a tendency to cover up its inefficiency by off-loading financial risk to its "customers".
- The primary "Sin of Ponzi Schemes" is the inflexible and unsustainable payout to "investors" combined with the general lack of actual value generated to justify said payout.
- Now about SkyWay. SkyWay spends tens millions of dollars on employing hundreds of people and building out new infrastructure. Infrastructure is inherently long term, so as an investment it cannot profit for many years. As a comparative example, Amazon is heavy on infrastructure and was already a public company for years before it turned a profit. In contrast, SkyWay intends to make a profit before it goes on a public stock exchange and is adamant that it will pay dividends to its investors. A good percentage of the money that is received by the SkyWay Group goes to their research and development expenses. Such expenses are an essential prerequiste in producing something novel of value.
- A similarly good percentage of the money goes to compensating people who market shares of the company for purchase. However, unlike consumer goods which are replenished over time, there is currently a fixed supply of company shares of SkyWay. As more shares are "bought" the supply of "unbought" shares generally decreases. At the same time, increasing numbers of people become interested in SkyWay. The changes to the discounts on shares were planned in advance and were made to coincide with progression through each one of the 15 stages of development as outlined in their business plan. Each progression to the next stage of development implies that the company has performed some of the activities that are essential to developing and marketing its infrastructure technology - string transport. According to SkyWay, progression to a new stage implies a drop in risk which naturally justifies a reduction of the discount on shares. Before, SkyWay shares were available for less than a penny each. Nowadays, SkyWay shares are generally sold for more than a penny each. Unlike the majority of consumer goods sold by MLM which are inherently depreciating in their nature, SkyWay shares can in principle increase in "value" geometrically as they represent ownership of SkyWay itself. However, in SkyWay, this "value" cannot be cashed in as the money is not just not thrown into a vault. The money is invested into research, development, and marketing. Currently, SkyWay investors are almost never given the chance to sell their shares.
- SkyWay Capital and SkyWay Invest Group buy shares from SkyWay Holdings at bulk discounts, and these shares are "resold" to individuals and legal entities at lower discounts. The difference in the discounts is used to pay for the expenses of these companies, as well as to pay compensation to those people who are marketing the SkyWay shares and/or the companies' in-house products (such as SWIG's Cryptounits).
- So, with a very big asterisk, you could say that SkyWay Capital and SkyWay Invest Group are MLM companies. However, the mechanics of the businesses are so different and novel, that they propose that "multilevel crowdinvesting" be added to our vocabulary, while dismissing the notion that their business model should be grouped under the categories of MLM or Ponzi Scheme. The most important distinction is that SkyWay Capital and SkyWay Invest Group are marketing products which in principle can in the future evolve into formally registered securities - securities that could grow in value over time. SkyWay companies clearly believe that investing is the prerogative of individuals regardless of their socioeconomic background, and they are adamant in attracting investors from all countries to support the establishment of string transport. They and their investors clearly believe in the value proposition offered by SkyWay and that what it is developing will become a paradigm shift in transport.
- Evaluating a SkyWay company or any other company is not as simple as looking at the kinds of kickbacks received by their customers and investors. Doing so may account for some major Liabilities of a company, but doing only such an analysis ignores the value of the Assets of the company. The fundamental equation in Accounting is Assets equals Liabilities plus Equity. If SkyWay succeeds, then its Asset value will be able to rise faster than its Liabilities and certainly faster than cash received by its investors. The outcome will determine the writing of history. If SkyWay succeeds, and SkyWay string transport is built all over the planet, then it was never a Ponzi Scheme. This is a case of "the future determines the past", not the other way around. The exact status is therefore a matter of speculation for those who cannot estimate reasonable values of the asset items of the SkyWay Group, or for those who are not aware of what those assets even are.
- In my opinion, each person seriously claiming to make such an evaluation as it applies to SkyWay Group should simultaneously have an engineering, financial, accounting, and entreprenuership background, or otherwise regularly consult people who can sufficiently obtain and communicate the information relevant to making said evaluation. Those evaluators who fail to demonstrate those competencies need not have their opinion taken seriously by me nor by others.
- Sincerely, talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 06:40, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- The value of the assets of the company? You mean the 400 hundred billion dollars that SkyWay has valued itself at being worth? Or the assets the company supposedly has to pay out monthly dividends on the sale of its cryptocurrencies?[256] Zachar (talk) 11:08, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- No, I am talking about the left side of the balance sheet of CJSC "String Technologies". Financial audit reports for CJSC "String Technologies" are available at https://sw-tech.by/about/audit (Closed Joint Stock Company = CJSC) talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 17:28, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- "SkyWay Group of Companies has already been assessed at $ 5 billion by the market, since the shares with a total face value of $ 400 billion are bought in the market by thousands of investors at a discount of 80 or less. By the way, this assessment of my intellectual property in the amount of 400 billion dollars was made not by Belarusian Yunitskiy, as the Internet- flea market “Onliner” wrote, but by an independent appraisal company that has international licenses for the right to assess intellectual property and exclusive rights to know-how." — rsw-systems.com.
- Also see https://thecalminvestor.com/difference-between-face-value-book-value-and-market-value/ talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 18:15, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Here are the copies of the independent valuation by Холд-Инвест-Аудит (http://www.hi-audit.ru/):
- REPORT №О-905 ON MARKET VALUE ASSESSMENT OF EXCLUSIVE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND KNOW-HOW RIGHTS ON THE “STRING-AND-RAIL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM OF ENGINEER YUNITSKIY” — Russian — English
- Sincerely, talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia
- Please check the Onliner.by source before quoting what Yunitskiy himself says about the Sidorovich articles who he unsuccessfully sued for libel. The article "I leech from pyramid schemes..." provides the following detailed information about the questionable nature of the 'Moscow consultancy firm' and this 'independent' assessment (which has been corroborated by no one except Yunitskiy and co, but questioned by many as to providing the valid reasons for a company's value):
- At the same time, the "shares" of investors are in fact unsecured, since the estimate of $ 400 billion (that's how much Anatoly Yunitsky's intellectual property is estimated) is virtual. In fact, there is a report on a specific Moscow accounting and consulting firm that estimated in 2013 the exclusive intellectual property and know-how "Yunitsky Railway String System" to $ 400 billion. If you look at this report (original document available), the $ 400 billion sum is made up of the sums of assets in more than 100 countries. More interesting. In order to achieve an assessment of the assets in a given country, it is necessary that the technology of the cable transport occupy one quarter of the market of each country. Considering that the string transport does not actually exist at the moment, the actual value of these intangibles is zero," said attorney Sergei Zikratsky.
- Please check the Onliner.by source before quoting what Yunitskiy himself says about the Sidorovich articles who he unsuccessfully sued for libel. The article "I leech from pyramid schemes..." provides the following detailed information about the questionable nature of the 'Moscow consultancy firm' and this 'independent' assessment (which has been corroborated by no one except Yunitskiy and co, but questioned by many as to providing the valid reasons for a company's value):
- I appreciate your input on MLM companies and your extended discussion on this topic helps prove that 'MLM' is indeed an inappropriate term to describe this company. It is unlikely that SkyWay will be built anywhere because it has not been tested officially by accredited organisations.
- Skyway does have a construction site in Sharjah, UAE as evidenced by some videos and pictures. talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 17:28, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- They have allocated land and they claim to have started construction of a 'test-site' facility at the SkyWay Innovation Park in Sharjah but I still have not found independent confirmation of this construction. Photos and videos unfortunately can't be used to confirm this but as soon as there is independent confirmation we can extend the sarticle with this information about this test site. I actually included this information about the signing of the Sharjah contract and the pre-allocation of the land in the article (from a single reference about it translated from French); there must be more proof of this contract and the construction there. Please post these links below. It is clear that they have 'test-sites' planned but I fear because the vehicles are uncertified and the trackes untested by independently accredited organisations in Belarus it will be a long while before they will be transporting UAE-citizens. Zachar (talk) 22:14, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- Skyway does have a construction site in Sharjah, UAE as evidenced by some videos and pictures. talk2siNkarma86—Expert Sectioneer of Wikipedia 17:28, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- The pattern of getting politicians interested at technological fairs, signing MoUs and taking lots of photos, canvassing investment from small investors in the new country, freezing the operations when financial regulatory agencies release warnings and skipping the country with the money afterwards, is fairly clear. You also don't explain the illegal sale of unregistered securities: SkyWay is not permitted to sell its pre-IPO assets until it has registered them by publishing the necessary prospectus. Nothing you say about my qualifications as an engineer will change this until you provide actual references proving that SkyWay has the necessary prospectus to legally sell its securities to the general public. I fear it doesn't, but would be gladly proved wrong in this case. Please provide real references to a source which suggests SkyWay has attained the requirement to legally sell its securities in any of the many countries it is operating. Zachar (talk) 11:08, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- THE QUESTION BEING ASKED HERE IS AS FOLLOWS: considering that this company is not permitted to sell its securities to the general public anywhere - most certainly not in Belarus and nowhere else either - is the self-valuation of these unregistered securities relevant to this discussion? I fear it is not because even if the company is worth something in the future, the gift certificates/promissory notes/CLNs they currently sell are entirely unregistered by a stock exchange and have only the value that SkyWay determines itself. Please prove me wrong by demonstrating in a source not self-published by SkyWay, that the investment products they are selling have any actual value. A primary source self-published by a Russian audit agency doesn't prove anything and has been questioned by verified references already used in the article. If the only way anyone can prove that this company is worthy anything is through self-published sources like a report by the Moscow consultancy firm and SkyWay websites, I fear that the definition of SkyWay as a pyramid scheme is justified. We can also only use accepted descriptive terminology, not terms invented by SkyWay to describe their own investment products like 'multi-level crowdinvesting'.Zachar (talk) 23:01, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- A pyramid scheme is considered a type of Ponzi scheme or a variation of it; they are both types of financial fraud involving redistribution of wealth to other investors, although in the case of the pyramid scheme investors are encouraged with financial rewards to attract new investors who in turn are encouraged to get new investors hence the shape of a pyramid. Verified articles which comment upon the financial pyramid nature of the SkyWay empire include the Russian article from the Volga News online service in Samara "Samarans are being dragged into a 'high-tech' financial pyramid" (1 May 2017). You can view the original here, but you can uncollapse a complete translation of the article in the 'Criticism' heading above: [257]. In the Crimea a similar article was published on the popular news portal PRIMECHANIYA.RU critical of the pyramid structure of SkyWay investment. Its title translates to "To the singing of strings: has a new pyramid come to Sevastopol?" (4 July 2017) and you can view the original here: [258]. There is also the Onliner.by article "I leech from financial pyramids..." viewable here: [259]. You can read a translation of this article here in your language of choice in the menu on the top right: [260]. Finally, this year after new complaints were registered in Belgium the FSMA rereleased its warning ON 17 MAY 2019 where they warn that SkyWay Capital "exhibits the characteristics of a pyramid scheme".[261]. The article in Business Insider Italia argues for calling SkyWay investment a Ponzi scheme and it is possible for a Ponzi scheme to use aspects of the pyramid: [262] Please note that Pyramid schemes "may purport to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their pyramid structure".[263] While some people call MLMs in general "pyramid selling" others use the term to denote an illegal pyramid scheme masquerading as an MLM. In inventing a new name for its investment which it calls "MLM crowdinvesting" SkyWay and its apologists are doing exactly this. There are enough published articles attesting to the the pyramid nature of the SkyWay investment scheme and the lack of registration of their investment products means that whether or not the company is actually ever worth anything is irrelevant since the investment products have not been registered officially anywhere as required by law. Zachar (talk) 09:25, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
- THE QUESTION BEING ASKED HERE IS AS FOLLOWS: considering that this company is not permitted to sell its securities to the general public anywhere - most certainly not in Belarus and nowhere else either - is the self-valuation of these unregistered securities relevant to this discussion? I fear it is not because even if the company is worth something in the future, the gift certificates/promissory notes/CLNs they currently sell are entirely unregistered by a stock exchange and have only the value that SkyWay determines itself. Please prove me wrong by demonstrating in a source not self-published by SkyWay, that the investment products they are selling have any actual value. A primary source self-published by a Russian audit agency doesn't prove anything and has been questioned by verified references already used in the article. If the only way anyone can prove that this company is worthy anything is through self-published sources like a report by the Moscow consultancy firm and SkyWay websites, I fear that the definition of SkyWay as a pyramid scheme is justified. We can also only use accepted descriptive terminology, not terms invented by SkyWay to describe their own investment products like 'multi-level crowdinvesting'.Zachar (talk) 23:01, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- The value of the assets of the company? You mean the 400 hundred billion dollars that SkyWay has valued itself at being worth? Or the assets the company supposedly has to pay out monthly dividends on the sale of its cryptocurrencies?[256] Zachar (talk) 11:08, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
On the basis of this research I propose we add the following text to the overview:
- ...It has also been documented that this company makes unsupported claims about their negotiations to encourage investment and that the SkyWay Group shows clear characteristics of a pyramid scheme.[264][265][266][267]...
PLEASE NOTE that the SkyWay Group disclaimer make the following statement in small-print about the reliability of their self-assessment:
- The Company has included its own estimates, assessments, adjustments and judgments in preparing certain market information herein, which have not been verified by an independent third party. [268]
Any claims people make about independent third-party assessments are therefore meaningless as the SkyWay Group disclaims any liability resulting from such claims. Please stop posting this information about the validity of the value of their intellectual property if SkyWay disclaims them anyway.
Request for updated information on the EcoTechnoPark in Marjina Horka
Request for updated information in a verified source on the EcoTechnoPark. Three unverified changes to the article were removed because they reference self-published SkyWay promotion. But if there are 6 tracks then there should be references commenting on this. Please post references we can check for verifiability below. Please note that we can't use self-published sources to Yunitskiy's personal website or SkyWay website which functions as promotion and whose verifiability has been consistently questioned. -Zachar (talk) 15:38, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
This is one of the texts that was removed because it referenced the site www.yunitskiy.com: "In April 2019, 5 track structures have been built in the EcoTechnoPark with 6th under completion." I can unfortunately find no confirmation of these 6 tracks in a verified source. Even if this statement is true, it needs to be verified by a source which is not Yunitskiy himself. -Zachar (talk) 18:25, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
This is the other text about the EcoTechnoPark that was removed from the testing section:
- In December 2017 certificates of compliance were issued for 2 models of SkyWay rolling stock: unibus U4-210 and unibike U4-621. The certificates were issued by LLC “Scientific-technical center of Scientific Research Institute Gorelectrotransport” having a corresponding accreditation at the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation.
It is about certification supposedly issued by the company "ZAO NIIGET" and it references the website "niiget99.ru". See this reference by Arthur Van Burren on a debunking of this certification agency which was actually dissolved in 2016. According to the Van Burrenblog, this certification is meaningless: [269]. In 18 August 2018 Onliner,by published an article "Is it an April Fool's Day Joke..." where the attempts of Yunitskiy to have his own park officially recognized to test itself. The Belarusian National Science Academy rejected his application and advised that the park be tested by an independently accredited the body. In August 2018, such testing had not been held. See a complete translation of this article viewable by uncollapsing the "Onliner.by - claims and controversies" heading and uncollapsing in turn the article itself. This is what the Onliner.by article relates about the assessment of the respected Belarusian NAS:
- "For a long time, Anatoly Yunitsky dreamed of enlisting the support of Belarusian scientific organizations. Thus, in 2016 and 2017, scientists visited the proving ground in Marjina Horka: experts from the National Academy of Sciences of Belarus studied the possibilities and feasibility of implementing this project. Last year, academics cautiously spoke about the unproven viability of SkyWay and the need to conduct a detailed independent examination involving the National Academy of Sciences... it turns out that no more scientific studies of the project were carried out."[270]
They further relate information about the attempts of Yunitskiy to be recognized as a scientific organization to accredit his own technology. This organization rejected his application. This is what they have to say about it:
- "At the NAS, they explained to us that String Technologies CJSC, in fact, submitted documents in which they tried to substantiate a certain 'contribution to science and the socio-economic development of the country'. Apparently, the contribution was not very weighty: 'According to the results of the majority of votes, the commission decided to refuse accreditation for the status of a scientific organization'.”
Furthermore the following text was removed as it quotes a SkyWay promotion website: "In 2017, a board of experts from the Moscow State University of Railway Engineering released another statement about the technology, in which SkyWay was found to be 'innovative and capable to compete with railway and automobile transport'." Professor Zylev is quoted as follows in the August 2018 Onliner.by article:
- "I think that our institute will make a very big mistake if it takes this case under its wing and oversees it, takes responsibility for the decisions that have been made there. Because all this is absolutely unviable,"[271]
Maybe there are other professors at the MSUoRE (MIIT) who officially released a different opinion? Unfortunately if they did I can't find it. If this is true, however, then a reference to a verified source to prove this has to be used, not a SkyWay promotion website.
Self-published SkyWay information on the certification posted by Kmarinas86
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Unverified claims removed from the article
The following unverified claims were posted to the article by an unregistered user. They were removed from the article as they were entirely unsupported by any references. If these claims, however, are true and there are verified references which can be checked, include them below:
- There are currently more than 800 people working actively with the SkyWay in Belarus and in U.A.E. These people are engineers, disainers, architects, project managers etc.
- The company uses the most hich tech technologies for designing and building the tracks, houses and modules (veichles) named Unibike, Unicar, Unibus, Unilet which can carry and transport passangers from 1 to hundreds at the same time with speeds currently tested at around 100 km/h.
- The Skyway group of companies have multiple buildings for manufactory and development.
- There is currently active work going on in Sharjah, U.A.E where the first 400 m track will be done possibly already in following months and will be folowed by multiple 2.5 km tracks to test the speeds up to 150 km/h for Unibuses and Unibikes as well as sea container transports.
Zachar (talk) 10:27, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
The SkyWay Group - CENTRAL COMPANIES
It has been observed that the list of companies above is unsupported by references. The intention here is to keep a record of the current companies that are active in the SkyWay empire, with a list of verified references that confirms information about the company such as where it is registered, what it does and who works for it. The following list contains major companies and fundraisers, even those registered in offshore location and shell companies as they are all associated with the mother company. Brief information about where the company is registered, the people who are associated with it, what its primary function is, and primarily how it is referred to in the verified references. This discussion should help keep the company ‘infobox’ up-to-date with the current list of subsidiary companies that have not been dissolved. This can be considered a work in progress.
- Please note that many references attest to the existence of "UniSky Corporation" which they claim has ownership of GTI and other companies in the SkyWay Group. Although it is mentioned by SkyWay as being incorporated in the Seychelles, I can find no actual proof that this company exists. Please help by providing references that are not self-published by SkyWay that attest to the existence of this company or in fact any other companies in the SkyWay Group.
СТРУННЫЕ ТЕХНОЛОГИИ ЗАО
Romanized name: “STRUNNYE TECHNOLOGII ZAO” [“String Technologies JSC”]
- Registered in Minsk, Belarus (2015)
- Anatoly Yunitskiy is the company director and 10% shareholder. The company GTI (BVI) is 90% shareholder.
This can be seen as the mother company. It is the only SkyWay company registered in Belarus that has been documented in multiple verified references.
This company is documented as signing the pre-order contracts.[272]
In the following reference Yunitskiy's wife Nadezda Kosareva is listed as the company director: [273]
It has been documented that this company attempted to get itself certified as a scientific organization by the Belarusian Academy of Science [NAS]; this application was rejected.[274]
EUROASIAN RAIL SKYWAY SYSTEMS HOLDING LIMITED (ERSSH)
- Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd. (London, 2013-2015)
- Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Holding Limited (BVI, 2015) [275]
- Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Holding II Limited (BVI, 2016) [276]
- Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Holding III Limited (BVI, 2018) [277]
A number of different companies have belonged to this group.
Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd. Is actually a different firm that was registered in London. The company “Rail Skyway Systems Ltd.” - registered in Lithuania - was investigated by the FNTT in 2014 for the illegal distribution of shares of this company.[278]. It was dissolved, however, on 13 October 2015.[279]. You can view this company’s ‘Certificate of Incorporation of a Private Limited Company’ here; [280]. In this document it is stated clearly that the two initial shareholders of the company are “Global Transport Investments Inc.” and Anatoly Yunitskiy. Nadezhda Kosareva – Yunitskiy’s wife – signed for GTI. After this company was dissolved, they didn't stop selling shares. They just moved their operations to the British Virgin Islands.
The Bank of Lithuania warning issued 23 August 2014 particularly notes that the company "Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd, registered in Great Britain, was publicly offering its securities without necessary permits in Lithuania". [281]
It seems that other companies in the SkyWay Group have offered for sale the shares of these shell companies and this is the name that appears on ‘share certificates’ which no SkyWay company is permitted to sell to you and which have a value which has been questioned by regulatory agencies around the world. You can see copies of these share certificates for “Euroasian Rail SkyWay Systems Holding Limited” company in this TUT.BY verified reference: [282]. Here is one of the images they published of these company shares: [283].
This company is presently registered at the address 19 Waterfront Drive, P.O. Box 3540, Road Town, Tortola VG1110, BVI. You can read information about the Memorandum of Association via the following link: [284]. The registered agent of this company is ‘Totalserve Trust Company Limited’. UniSky Corporation – another SkyWay Group shell company registered in the Seychelles – is associated with this company. Although UniSky is mentioned in the Memorandum of Association and SkyWay refer to this company all across their webistes, I can find no actual proof that it actually exists.
‘Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Holding Limited’ is actually the only company to have an ISIN registered in the BVI: VGG322291094. The actual validity of a BVI ISIN has been disputed. Having it does not actually permit the company to sell anyone securities.[285]
In Greece, the HCMC (Greek financial regulatory agency) issued a warning about the SkyWay Group. It identified “Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Holding II Ltd.” as on the Skyway companies.[286] -Zachar (talk) 19:31, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
FIRST SKYWAY INVEST GROUP LIMITED
- Registered in London (2014)
- Evgenii Kudriashov is registered as the current company director.[287]
Registered office address: Suite 3095 Great Russell Street, London, UK.[288]
The last registered document was a confirmation statement registered 17 December 2018. [289]
It has been suggested that this is a shell company like other companies with a director who lives in Belarus but a post-office box in London. It has been struck of at least twice but the company manages to get itself put back on the register.[290] Typically companies are threatened with being struck off if they do not submit an annual confirmation statement.[291]
Evgenii Kudriashov is associated with SkyWay Capital. He is also the director of SkyWay Capital Inc. In the Belgian FSMA warning First Skyway Invest Group Limited is also referred to as ‘Skyway Capital’.[292]
GLOBAL TRANSPORT INVESTMENTS INC. (GTI)
- Registered in the British Virgin Islands (2015)
This company owns both the intellectual property of Yunitskiy’s SkyWay technology and the mother company ‘ZAO Strunnye Technologii’. According to SkyWay contracts, “the company’s purpose is to create and provide a conducive environment to strategic investors”.[293]
In April 2017 GTI became involved in a scandal involving offshore corruption schemes. A list was released of representatives of foreign organizations presented on the site of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. GTI was included in that list. [294]
Yunitskiy himself is documented as being evasive to avoid having to explain how or why the intellectual property of this company was transferred to this offshore company when he was questioned about it in the Belarusian courts.[295]
SKYWAY CAPITAL INC. (SWC)
- Registered in Saint Lucia (2018)
- This company is run from a centralized location in Minsk, Belarus.
Skyway Capital Inc. functions to raise funds for SkyWay Group projects.
Evgeny Kudryashov is the company director. Despite this company having the domain name of its company’s website registered in London, Kudryashov lives and works in Belarus.[296] He is pictured in YouTube films interviewing Anatoly Yunitskiy. [297]
Kudryashov is documented with a history in network marketing. [298] This history involved him in the following internet scams: MMCIS, Forex trend or CenterReklama.[299]
Skyway Capital has been implicated in many of the regulatory warnings. The warning issued by the FSMA on 22 September 2017 warns about the activities of “First SkyWay Invest Group Limited” which was offering its shares to Belgian investors illegally; they shorten the name to “SkyWay Capital”. [300]
The recent German warning from BaFin warns specifically about the missing sales prospectus of ‘Skyway Capital Inc.’ which it states is registered in Saint Lucia. [301]
SkyWay Capital has been documented making unrealistic claims about the value of the shares it is marketing. As of today (2 June 2019) “you can purchase company shares at a discount up to a hundred times their potential face value”. The company is still claiming that it has signed more than $164 billion dollars in pre-order contracts. It claims that in investing in SkyWay capital you will become a “co-owner of all the technology”. [302]
The company has been repeatedly called out for selling pieces of paper that have no actual value. By investing in SkyWay Capital investment products, you don’t actually end up owning anything more than the piece of paper that SkyWay tells you has value. You should check, however, with your national financial regulatory agency to see if SkyWay Capital has published a legally-required prospectus. If they haven’t then anything SkyWay Capital sells you is completely worthless.
Also before investing in SkyWay Capital you should read the company disclaimer. You can view it here: [303]. You should note the following:
- SkyWay Capital states that marketing information “bas been prepared by the company based on their own estimates, assumptions, adjustment and judgements that have not been verified by independent third parties”;
- The company is not responsible for you losing your money;
- The company does not intend to register its securities and it is therefore illegal here in the U.S.- it is further illegal to sell SkyWay Capital stocks in Russia, Australia, Canada or Japan;
- It disclaims itself from any ‘forward-looking’ statements it makes in its publicity which it admits are based on unknown assumptions about the future.
Furthermore, the SkyWay Capital website advertises “special offers for registering children’s ownership”.[304] Zachar (talk) 19:26, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
SWIG INTERNATIONAL LTD. (SWIG)
- Registered in London (2015) – previously known as “Global Skypark Ltd.”
- Armands Murnieks and Margarita Sevastjanova are registered as the company directors.[305] Shares have been transferred between Anatoly Yunitskiy and Armands Murnieks. [306]
This company functions to raise funds for SkyWay Group projects.
On various sites claims are made that Andrei Khovratov is the CEO of the SWIG companies, although these claims have been disputed. [307].
Andrei Khovratov also claims to be director of the company "RSW Investment Group Ltd." registered in the British Virgin Islands. He signs documents using a company stamp with the company registration number 1387608. The following document shows the supposed registration of a shareholder in Italy: [308]. I can find no proof that this company actually exists external to SkyWay promotion sites. This company information is also included at this reference in relation to the registration of a location in the Ukraine: [309].
Yunitskiy distances himself from the way companies like this collect money for him by making statements like “if someone scam using company name and happen to give me money, is not my problem”. [310]. He nonetheless invented the technology these companies are promoting, takes money they collect and is a shareholder of these companies.
SWIG presents itself as global consortium of some kind which sells products like Education Investment Packages (EIPs) and CryptoUnits (CRU) to small investors which it promotes at recruitment and sales meetings held at various places around the world. [311].
This is how the company describes itself:
- “SWIG is the trademark of the company that combines educational and investment projects. The company provides education on the topics of personal finance use, investment portfolio organization, personal development, basics of management and marketing. In addition to education the company set the goal of popularizing the idea of an environmentally friendly and safe transport and convey the advantages of string transport implementation to people worldwide. Our mission is to get 15% of the population in regions where SkyWay technology is present to become the company’s investors and achieve quality education in the fields of personal and financial development.” [312] Zachar (talk) 16:41, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
The SkyWay Group - INTERNATIONAL SUBSIDIARIES
The intention of this list is to collect proof that the subsidiary companies registered in foreign countries actually exist and are associated with the mother company. The list above was criticized for not having any references; we can improve that. This heading can be considered a work in progress and can help verify the contents of the Company Infobox in the article. -Zachar (talk) 11:27, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
GLOBAL TRANSNET UK LIMITED
- Registered in London (2015) [313]
This company has an official registration in London and is directed by the same person involved with other SkyWay shell companies: Armands Murniecks. But Murniecks is only the director of the company. GTI and Anatoly Yunitskiy are the major shareholders of the company as demonstrated in this documentation: [314]
It has been observed that this company has been involved with insider trading relating to non-existent U.K. projects such as a SkyWay project connecting London and Thurso in Scotland.[315]. All the local agencies were contacted in the places which would be affected by a SkyWay route. None of them replied with information concerning any planned collaboration with SkyWay or any of its associates, neither the mother company nor 'Global Transnet UK ltd.'. The fact that the Russian mother company negotiated with a subsidiary who is owned by companies in the SkyWay Group, including Yunitskiy as an actual shareholder, demonstrates insider trading.
PT SKYWAY TECHNOLOGIES INDONESIA
- Registered in Jakarta, Indonesia (September 2017) [316]
- Madinatul Fadihlah is registered as the company director.
SkyWay had a stall at the 'Railway Tech Indonesia 2017' trade fair in April 2017.[317]
The company "PT Skyway Technologies Indonesia" was set up in September 2017.
They wasted no time negotiating with universities and private companies to realize imaginary SkyWay projects and encourage research all around Indonesia.
In September 2017 a Memorandum of Understanding was signed with the University of Indonesia to build on campus 'sky trains'.[318]
They negotiated with PT Jorong Port Development company in Kalimantan to build a project there, and with the MII (the Indonesian Infrastructure Society) . A Memorandum of Understanding was signed in Jakarta in September 2017.[319].
The SkyWay Group claim on their website to have undertaken negotiations as part of the 'desa emas' (golden village) program to develop a project in Dasun village, Rembang district. SkyWay claim that they signed a Memorandum of Understanding in October 2018. They self-publish an article with photos and claim that this was published by the Indonesian news portal Merdeka.com. I haven't been able to find any proof that these negotiations took place and this article is not traceable to a verified news source.[320]
In February 2018 they negotiated with the Gadjah Mada University in Yogya to promote research and innovation in the field of transportation.[321] This is actually where the director of the company studied. The Memorandum of Understanding elaborated on scholarship opportunities for the students and the director of the University was happy for the additional opportunities underprivileged students could attain. Of course, an MoU doesn't actually oblige anyone to do anything, and the director Pantun shouldn't have expected anything but disappointment. There is no proof that a single rupiah was paid to a single student as part of any scholarship or research program.
Opportunities were taken at these events to make publicity for SkyWay projects and local newspapers and news portals published information about these events to promote investment from Indonesian citiziens. These articles included commentary like the following:
- Also included is a unique scheme of transportation infrastructure financing in the style of SkyWay Technologies that allows people to actively participate.[322]
These were photo opportunities for free publicity to promote investment; they never actually intended to realize any of these projects. But who could turn down the free opportunity to have their photos taken signing a meaningless document, seeing it didn't cost them anything and could lead to future collaboration of some kind? They should've known better. Shameless advantage was taken of this free publicity to promote this company to Indonesian small investors at home who didn't know any better.
Indonesian citizens complained to the OJK (Indonesian financial regulatory agency) and in March 2018 they added Skyway Capital to its forbidden companies list [323] and released a warning about the activities of "PT Skyway Technologies Indonesia" [324]. It's actually a positive testament to a functioning financial regulatory agency; the OJK didn't waste any time issuing their warning and they may have saved a lot of gullible Indonesians from wasting their money.
Cold comfort, however, for the Indonesians who actually lost their money. The mother company in Belarus froze the further activities of its subsidiary in Indonesia.[325] Apparently "word had spread that there were a number of Multi Level Marketing (MLM) individuals who sold investment products on behalf of PT SkyWay Technologies Indonesia". And to protect themselves from prosecution the mother company stopped its activities in May 2018. According to SkyWay pubicity, their company director had published defamatory information about the company and exploited Indonesians.[326] There are no articles, however, that would suggest the company did anything that was not done already by SkyWay as part of its activities in other parts of the world and there are certainly no articles suggesting that the company director defamed the company. Another reason given was the negotiations in Dubai.[327] This means they took the money from investors, protected themselves from legal action, and moved on to their next destination.
RAIL SKYWAY SYSTEMS LTD. (Lithuania)
- Registered in Vilnius (2014)[328]
- Anatoly Yunitskiy is registered as the director of this company.[329]
This company was founded in Vilnius, Lithuania in March 2014.
SKYWAY GREENTECH COMPANY (UAE)
According to Skyway the "Skyway Greentech Company" is a subsidiary of GTI that "will operate in the territory of the UAE on behalf of the SkyWay project".[330]. This company has been mentioned in many secondary sources but I can find no actual proof that this company has been registered anywhere officially. This is a request for verified references on the registration of this company. –Zachar (talk) 21:41, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
SKYWAY TRANSPORT AUSTRALIA
According to a number of secondary sources, this company was founded by Rod Hook in Adelaide to spruik SkyWay technology in Australia. Some references suggest that Anatoly Yunitskiy and Rod Hook formed this company together. We need, however, primary sources that certify that this company actually exists and when exactly it was registered to do business. This is a request for sources that attest to the registration of this company. -Zachar (talk) 21:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
TECHNOPOLIS INTEGRATED NIGERIA LIMITED
According to their own website, this company is the official partner of the Skyway Invest Group (SWIG).[331] I can't however find any actual proof, even primary sources, that this company really exists. It has to exist outside the context of its own website. If no one can published verified information about this company, I suggest we remove it from the infobox. This is, therefore, a request for verified primary or secondary sources on the existence of this company as the partner of SWIG in Nigeria. -Zachar (talk) 21:33, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
- The secondary sources attesting to the presence of SkyWay don't mention this company.[332][333] I have removed this company from the infobox until we have further proof that this company actually exists and SkyWay is indeed working with them.
- –Zachar (talk) 21:58, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Anatoly Yunitskiy, Victor Morozov and the SkyWay Empire
A number of articles have been published about the true nature of the SkyWay Belarusian offshore empire with it roots in the Gomel region of Belarusia through the inventions of Anatoly Yunitskiy. These articles contain detailed information about how the SkyWay empire actually works and the unseen people who connect all the well known figures who keep popping up at SkyWay events around the world like Kudriashov and Khovratov. If you want to understand how the empire works, see this complex illustration which will inform you of almost all the people who have been already mentioned plus a whole bunch of others who have remained hidden:[334].
Translations of these articles will follow. From a first glance all the detailed information in these articles is backed up by the contents of the verified articles, but these articles are much more detailed. I found this information in trying to research which of the SkyWay companies actually exist.
What follows is a translation from the opening of the articles about the activities of the silent partner, Victor Morozov.
- Electronic pyramid Sky Way and "Keshbury" pumped out more than 215 million dollars from the citizens of Russia. At the same time, if Keshbury is widely known, then Sky Way has already been forgotten. Meanwhile, the losses from the Sky Way pyramid are the same $ 200 million, and Keshbury is just a late clone with a "harvest" of only 15 million "green". The organizer of Keshberi, Arthur Vardyanan, the “head” of Sky Way, Anatoly Yunitsky, is long-time subordinates of Viktor Morozov, who is the real organizer of these, and many other Internet frauds. Read the details of the flight of Viktor Vasilyevich Morozov from Russia in this material. [335]
- -Zachar (talk) 23:29, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- This article confirms Morozov's involvement in both the SkyWay and 'Keshbery' projects: [336]
- "In 2016, when the SkyWay pyramid gradually began to collapse, Viktor Morozov was already in search of another Zits chairman of Pound, to deceive the gullible“ hamsters ”- as then, and now, all fraudsters call citizens affected by the Internet pyramids. The financial flow weakened, but at one of the events of dubious content, Viktor Morozov met the young, promising Artur Vardanyan. According to Morozov’s observations, this “young man” had a rare gift - he disinterestedly loved money. As much as Viktor Vasilyevich."
- -Zachar (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
- I would recommend not to use these articles even here in discussion. They are just rubbish and the source is not even unreliable but also anonymous. Don't bring all this garbage to Wikipedia please. It is also against the Wiki rules about living persons. Dron007 (talk) 11:13, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
- This article confirms Morozov's involvement in both the SkyWay and 'Keshbery' projects: [336]
Yunitskiy's SkyWay - "bitcoin for morons" (18 February 2018)
This article includes detailed information about the history of Yunitskiy, his dubious credentials, the origin of the offshore empire, and the profits made by the Morozov empire. Other articles only expand on this already detailed information with more descriptions that make sense in relation to already existing verified references. A summary of major points in the article follows:
- SkyWay is not an advanced scientific program, but a Russian scam that existed long before the bitcoin epidemic.
- In the 80s Yunitskiy was a member of the USSR cosmonautics federation who was the co-author of theories relating to a space elevator designed to put people, cargo and nuclear weapons into space which remain unrealized and which the scientific world has remained silent about.
- After the collapse of the Soviet Union in the 90s Yunitskiy worked as a guard at a potato farm and developed his ideas about an alternative form of transport. His ideas were not influenced by the scientific community because he did not have access to the internet, and was not aware of similar developments taking places in other parts of the world.
- Around the year 2000 he met Viktor Morozov who already had a reputation in extensive criminal activity in the region. Morozov was looking for a global operation that could “serve as a base for rapid enrichment.” It was a marriage made in heaven: Morozov had found a utopian idea to exploit and a ‘mad scientist’ to represent it.
- This is how Morozov went to work. He founded a group of companies under the banner of the “IBC UniSky Corporation” which had a self-estimated value of $400 billion dollars. The shares of this office began to be sold by a group of intermediary companies registered in the British Virgin Islands (e.g. GTI, ERSSH). However, these shares are not sold directly, but via “a second group of agents registered in the UK” (e.g. SWIG). The English intermediaries transfer the shares for sale to Russian companies controlled by Dmitry Schastlivy and Salim Miftakhutdinov.
- Russian companies transferred funds received from duped investors to England, who in turn sent it to the British Virgin Islands; thus Morozov had found a way to access funds from Russia abroad.
- Morozov became at one point the chairman of the board of the SkyWay sales network but he quickly decided it wasn’t worth the risk exposing himself and he placed new figure-heads in these positions.
- Yunitskiy himself had “nothing but a great idea”; otherwise he would receive commercial loans to fund his projects. But real businessmen aren’t interested in projects connected to the known criminal Viktor Morozov and fronted by suspicious figures like swindlers and fraudsters Andrei Khovratov, Armands Murnieks and Evgeny Kudryashov. Gullible investors at home, however, don’t know any better.
- These investors don’t know, for example, that Yunitskiy was unable to defend his PhD thesis and that he “bought the title of an academic”. They couldn’t, however, buy the respect of the “Russian Academy of Sciences”; they spent their money instead on the “Russian Academy of Environment Sciences” (RAEN) which is known for selling its positions to people who have no education that peddle pseudoscience. His scientific articles are filled with unverified nonsense that looks scientific to people who don’t know any better but that have been ignored by the scientific world.
- The sale of worthless investment products (on pretty paper) has duped hundreds of thousands of Russians. They used call centers and sent mass amounts of spam emails directing potential investors to internet sites to siphon the funds of Russians to the accounts of Morozov’s offshore companies. Once they got people to invest, they encouraged them using MLM techniques to invite other people to invest by rewarding them financially.
- The article includes a list detailing internet representation of SkyWay technology, including SkyWay websites, the hundreds of promotional videos on YouTube, SkyWay representation on social media (Vkontakt, Twitter and facebook) and the hundreds of partner sites which promote this fraudulent.
- Although millions of people have embraced unsupported Skyway promotion, apart from fake events presented as part of advertising, no one has made a cent.
- It can be stated that SkyWay is the most powerful criminal internet pyramid since the infamous MMM of Mavrodi. It is the longest living scam in the modern criminal history of Russia.
- After the accumulation of an initial capital Morozov decided to aim at developing countries like India, Egypt and Pakistan. Representatives from these countries were given financial incentives to attend the events at the SkyWay test site. The targeted infrastructure programs were “mired in corruption”.
Sky Way Юницкого – «биткоин для дебилов» (18 February 2018) Yunitskiy’s SkyWay – “bitcoin for morons”
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https://victormorozov.org/sky-way-yunickogo-bitkoin-dlya-debilov/ Sky Way Юницкого – «биткоин для дебилов» Yunitskiy’s SkyWay – “bitcoin for morons” 18 February 2018 Unitsky's Sky Way - “Bitcoin for morons” Do you think that Sky Way is an advanced project like Elon Musk only on Russian soil? Yes, it did not happen at all - this is a Russian scam that existed long before Russia was covered by the "Bitcoin epidemic". Back in 2000, Anatoly Yunitsky, a drunken alcoholic, who smoothly could only talk about his "great invention" - the string transport, the transport system of the "new generation" - was excavated from the dust of Soviet cosmonautics. Without further ado, this collection of technical misunderstandings was called "String Transport Unitsky". At the end of the 90s, Anatoly Yunitsky, this poorly paid Belarusian scientist, parted ways with his creative center, “Star World” [«Звездный мир»], and was suffering from unrealized ideas. A decade earlier, in the 80s, being a member of the USSR Cosmonautics Federation, where they took all scientists who were able to relate a few words, Anatoly Eduardovich was just a junior co-author of the stupid development of the Council of Ministers about the string elevator, which was to put useful cargoes into the Earth orbit, cosmonauts and nuclear weapons. The deadlock of the project was understood by everyone except the elderly CPSU General Secretaries. But at the time of sunset, the USSR financed even stupid ideas - it is important that they were in beautiful packaging. Therefore, a defense project of this type was created, foundations were built for it, employees were allocated apartments, and all the “scientists” and, especially, party functionaries involved in this squandering of people's funds were allocated. After the collapse of the USSR, the idea of a "string" was buried, but the past super-profits and the "almost academic" lifestyle did not give rest to Anatoly Yunitsky. That is why, working as a guard at a vegetable base and consuming immensely cheap alcoholic drinks, he decided to continue his "scientific research" by expanding the transport horizontally - now he would become the "string player" as an alternative transport system of the planet. The advanced developments of Japan and the United States in the field of non-friction magnetic trains did not influence Yunitskiy. First of all, because he did not read English well, he did not subscribe to specialized magazines, and he did not have the Internet at that time. In addition, modern developments killed the whole concept of its “advanced” method, which was hopelessly outdated in 1986, after the crash at the Gomel test site. Two corpses of testers, trapped inside a test capsule, impacted, on the high-speed section of the test site, did not upset Anatoly Eduardovich, who was already in an alcoholic half-sleed at that time - he reasoned that “they died, so they’re dead”. It was at the turn of the 2000s that Anatoly Yunitsky met the “serial entrepreneur” Viktor Morozov. “Comrade Morozov”, with his criminal sense, was able to immediately appreciate the influence of alcohol, his greedy burning eyes and a very nimble charm, which sharply intensified after the intake of alcohol. Morozov was constantly in search of ideas of a “global scale” that would be feasible before the stage of test technical implementation and could serve as a base for rapid enrichment. On the still fresh fragments of MMM, it was decided to create a new Internet scam with the sonorous name of Sky Way (Skyway, "Heavenly Way"). It really turned out to be heavenly, particularly for Anatoly Yunitskiy. Nobody, of course, was going to build anything advanced - all these rationales and beautiful pictures in Photoshop, stories about the revival of “leading research teams” were needed for the seperation of stupid suckers investors who did not know where to invest crazy money. Victor Morozov, both at that time and now, performed a social function - he saved idiots from candy wrappers that they did not need.
In general, any novice user of the Network knows that the same road was tested in the USA as early as the 70s - they tried to organize a transport connection through Hudson Bay using such “carriages on strings”. But the vibration of the strings simply dropped the cabins. Americans are more humane - there were no human victims. The organizers of the “new transport” dismantled the experimental road and never returned to it. Yes, and about the declared speed of 400 km, you can very much doubt. But who remembers this? Victor Morozov decided to make everything cooler. The capitalization of this fraudulent project was as follows. A group of companies was formed in a closed jurisdiction. The head IBC UniSky Corporation estimates its authorized capital to be valued at 400 billion dollars - this is only a small fraction of the “great contribution” of the alconaut Yunitsky to the “global economy”. After that, the shares of this office began to be sold by a group of intermediaries - Global Transport Investments Inc. (GTI) BVI, RSW Investment Group Ltd, Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd BVI. However, these shares are not sold directly, but through the second group of agents registered in the UK - FIRST SKYWAY INVEST GROUP LTD, SWIG INTERNATIONAL LTD, SKYPARK LONDON LTD, Global Transnet UK LTD. The English intermediaries transfer the shares for sale to Russian LLCs, primarily controlled by the Eurasia Consumer Society, under the leadership of Dmitry Schastlivy (TIN 380101081982) and to the cluster of companies of Salim Miftakhutdinov (TIN 772451505227), who had a long and hard experience in selling various dietary supplements through the Internet and improvised call centers with cold calls with a staff of 200-400 people. It was the subordinates of Miftakhutdinov who sold drugs on the basis of “motherwort” and “pentalgin” at the price of 30-40 thousand rubles per package to old men. But the OBEP raids, with the support of the SOBR, promptly knocking out “platforms” for the implementation of “medical” drugs “from everything” did not embarrass Miftakhutdinov - he immediately recruited new personnel in another major city. It was Dmitry Schastlivy (the name, apparently, was replaced under the influence of white laughing drugs) and Salim Miftakhutdinov controlled the Sky Way sales network in Russia. And he led the scheme - Viktor Morozov, already known to us, who always preferred to stay in the background. For some time, Morozov even became the “Chairman of the Board of Directors of the SkyWay Group”, but he quickly realized that it wasn’t worth the risk of exposing himself and he placed new figure-heads in these positions.
Of course, Yunitsky had nothing but a great idea. Otherwise, he would receive a commercial loan or investment of a venture fund. But neither the loan nor the investment is and never will be, because the real businessmen are not interested in the air sold by the crook Viktor Morozov and the alcoholic patient Anatoly Yunitsky with a huge “flock of comrades” in the form of a demonic drop Andrei Khovratov, a Latvian citizen Armand Murnieks, a drop Igor Ryanenko , Evgeny Kudryashov, fraudster Dmitry Schastlivy, hypnotist and swindler Maxim Isyp, unlucky lawyer Maxim Gafinyak, Belarusian “serial entrepreneur” Alexei Murashko, a nut in a criminal case. Morozov has invested some money in building the image of Yunitskiy. He is represented as a “general designer” - this is the helper from the distant USSR, where such posts were handed out only to the greatest scientists who worked on projects all over the country. The position sounds nostalgic for those who from the "Soviet Union" only remembers the launch of the satellite and the flight to the moon. They have little idea that in the days of the USSR Yunitsky could not even defend his Ph.D. thesis. Yunitskiy bought the the title of an academic. But in the Russian Academy of Sciences such rogues are not yet accepted, so the money was spent on the title of "Academic of the Public Russian Academy of Natural Sciences." This place has not yet been covered solely due to the fact that it gives too high income to its “organizers”, due to which they block any unfriendly encroachments of the controlling authorities. In general, the fraudster in the society of the same "scientific employees". Many members of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences are people far from science, who do not even have a proper education and recognized scientific works. But Yunitsky is not confused at all. The same fake at Yunitskiy and "contribution to science”. Formally, the “academic” is the author of 140 inventions, 19 monographs, 200 scientific works. This is written on the Sky Way website. Formally, everything is fine. Actually - the same deception. Let's take a close look at Yunitsky’s inventions - only 99 patents are written behind him and not 140 patents. For the period from 1977 to 2013. About a third of them are copyright certificates of the USSR, one third - patents of the Russian Federation and another third - patents of the Eurasian Patent Organization. It is strange that all these patents are valid only in the countries of the former USSR. There is simply no patent registered in leading developed countries. That is, any entrepreneur in any of these countries can build a transport network using the technologies of the “great Yunitskiy” and not pay a penny for it. Officially. So all these inventions are worth nothing. The price of all this intellectual property is zero. If we study the "scientific work" of Yunitskiy, then we also expect a disappointment. His scientific articles are 70 and not 200, and here they are all together - articles, reports, justification. What is the scientific nature of this "text waste paper" knows only their author. All this nonsense is dedicated to string transport and spell out almost the same material from 1974 to 2015. The same material as in numerous videos on the Sky Way website. No research results, no theoretical calculations, nothing close to science is there. At best, a number of controversial design decisions. Well, "monographs", as we understand it - of a similar quality. Out of 19 monographs 10 - reprints of the little book “Unitsky Transport System (TSNU) in Questions and Answers” in various editions and versions. And they all duplicate already known clips (or clips duplicate monograms). There is nothing scientific. So no astronomical intellectual value is observed. Yunitsky is an ordinary loser dreamer who, during 40 years of “scientific activity”, created only a global bunch with a characteristic hydrogen sulfide [rotten egg – ed.] odor.
The five main Internet sites of the Sky Way scheme are hosted by the American provider Godaddy and the Russian Roucenter. Several youtube channels and social media pages complemented the image of the modern scam monster Sky Way, which he appeared in early 2014. Up to this point there were separate sites, and mass telephone calls to databases like “Lotus”, where fraudsters gathered everyone who ever invested, in anything in Russia. In addition, Sky Way employees carried out mass spam emails, so popular at the turn of 2008-2010. And, of course - a huge network, similar to MLM, network marketing. "I bought the shares myself - bring a friend and get a bonus." The entrance ticket was priced at a minimum of 50 dollars. A little later, it was raised to $ 100. Main sites: https://skywayinvestgroup.com - registered in 2014 http://rsw-systems.com - registered in 2014 https://skyway.capital - registered in 2014 http://sky-way.org/ - registered in 2014 Anatoly Eduardovich Yunitsky website - http://yunitskiy.com - registered in 2011 Channels on YouTube: youtube.com/user/SkyWayInvestGroup - 420 videos / youtube.com/user/rswsyst/videos - 239 videos / youtube.com/ user / Anatoly Yunitskiy - 238 videos (total on Youtube more than 2,000 video clips devoted to SkyWay, Transnet, RSW Systems, STU, etc.). Pages and groups on VKontakte - vk.com/rswsyst and vk.com/skywaycapital / on Facebook - facebook.com/groups/RSWsystems / on Twitter - twitter.com/ rsw_systems Partner and other sites about SkyWay - rswskyway.com / skywayinvestgroup.com / railskyway.ru / my-invest.wix.com/rsw-systems / rsw-online.ru / sky-way.org / rswfuture.ru/rswplc / gramtriz .com / index. php? r = projects / page & view = unitsky ... in reality, there are many more, about 300. What can I say - work on finding suckers to finance personal projects of Victor Morozov, done a lot. Millions of people are embraced by this stupid PR and hundreds of thousands of them have lost their “investments”. All "private traders" who have invested money in Sky Way have lost their money. There is no positive example, except advertising and fake events. Over the years, Victor Morozov exercised control and possession of the fraudulent group Sky Way. Members of the OPS Viktor Morozov are responsible for massive cases of fraud in Russia, at least against 300-350 thousand citizens of our country. The damage caused by the illegal activities of Morozov alone in these episodes exceeds $ 200 million. It can be stated that Sky Way is the most powerful criminal Internet pyramid after the acclaimed MMM. And, at the same time, the longest living in the modern criminal history of Russia. But by 2016, the fraudulent scheme of Sky Way is already beginning to wobble under the claims of the “shareholders” and is attracting the attention of law enforcement agencies. A year before, the radical “cleansing” of the Sky Way system begins through the mass liquidation of legal entities involved in the fraudulent scheme. Thus, more than 15 companies with direct ownership of Anatoly Yunitsky, as well as other members of the OPS Viktor Morozov involved in the String Transport Unitsky project, were liquidated. After the accumulation of initial capital from the "internet-suckers", Viktor Morozov decided to aim a blow at the attack of state organs in Asia and the Middle East. For kickbacks, the Sky Way project was attempted to sell to representatives of many “developing” countries such as India, Egypt and Pakistan. Having received generous financial gifts, a special interest in “cooperation” was also shown by representatives of Iran and Tunisia. The delegations that took part in Belarus rather actively attended the Sky Way test site and were very active in taking photo and video-shooting of all the moving prototypes of a string highway, on wheeled transport carts. The main task of the new phase of the international scam was interstate projects that were supposed to lead to the financing of the “String Transport Unitsky” by the Middle Eastern governments that were mired in corruption within the framework of targeted infrastructure programs. Of course, the funds raised in this way would be foreign loans from more developed countries, and, moreover, their fate would be to be transferred through Viktor Morozov’s “financial sieve” to foreign jurisdictions for “cutting” with very compliant brown-eyed friends from the Middle East. Government officials were to organize the "financing" of research and the potential construction of a "string highway" in the capitals of their states. And Viktor Morozov took upon himself the withdrawal of these funds, legalization and the proper sharing of the divide between himself and new business partners. Strengthening of the sanction direction against the Russian Federation also affected Victor Morozov. Foreign banks have become more and more common. Under the "cap" of the European Way, it is Armand Murnieks, Irina Volkova, Evgeny Kudryashov, Ineta Anjane, Solar Frantisek, Alexey Sukhodoev. Yes, and Victor Morozov began to feel a little more uncomfortable - the interview became longer and longer during the receipt of Schengen visas. And foreign banks persistently asked him to clear the presence of the IBC accounts UniSky Corporation, Global Transport Investments Inc. (GTI) BVI, RSW Investment Group Ltd, Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd BVI with “money of dubious origin”. Most of the criminal funds were transferred to the infamous Latvian bank ABLV, which was favorable to any “plums” and any “dirt”. True, it was he who in February 2018, at the suggestion of the US regulatory authorities, was subjected to verification and blocking of dollar correspondent accounts for a huge number of dubious operations with criminal clients and no less criminal accounts. |
The most complete scheme of the fraudulent project Sky Way (20 February 2018)
This second article is an explanation of the detailed illustration you can view here: [337]. It describes the role of individual figures in the Morozov criminal empire.
Summary:
- Victor Morozov designed an elegant scam, but he hadn’t expected that his name would be revealed in the “panama papers” as a co-owner of offshore SkyWay companies.
- The main cash flow hub is via the four offshore companies in the closed jurisdiction of the British Virgin Islands: IBC UniSky Corporation, Global Transport Investments Inc., RSW Investment Group Ltd., Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd.
- These offshore companies receive cash flow from their “agent companies” registered in the UK: First Skyway Invest Group Ltd., SWIG International Ltd., Skypark London Ltd. and Global Transnet UK LTD.
- Morozov fully controls the figure-heads for these agent companies like Evgeny Kudryashov and Armands Murnieks.
- These British companies receive money from a variety of Russian companies concentrated in three clusters: the “Eurasia” cluster Dmitry Schastlivy, the cluster under Salim Miftakhutdinov and the cluster under Yunitskiy, although these companies have been drastically cleaned up since 2015 and have a primarily demonstrative function.
- Schastlivy specializes in the sale of “education” packages to his investors. Miftakhutdinov is particularly well-known for a telemarketing scam that targeted herbal wonder remedies to elderly people.
- The logic of receiving funds from individuals in Russia is based on the sale of shares of the BVI companies whose value is based on the imagined capital value of 400 billion dollars. The companies in the UK and Russia send money to the offshore accounts.
- The main point of the scam is that customers end up buying unsecured ‘shares’: a pretty piece of paper that has absolutely no value, being based after all on the intellectual property of Yunitskiy which has no valid patents and which was outdated thirty years ago. But Morozov and Yunitsky were able to organize their scam so elegantly to convince 350 thousand people in Russia to acquire SkyWay shares.
- The SkyWay project is definitely a financial pyramid. Its owner, Viktor Morozov is a criminal.
Самая полная схема мошеннического проекта Sky Way(20 Februari 2018) The most complete scheme of the fraudulent project Sky Way
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https://victormorozov.org/samaya-polnaya-sxema-moshennicheskogo-proekta-sky-way/ Самая полная схема мошеннического проекта Sky Way The most complete scheme of the fraudulent project Sky Way 20 February 2018 Legally, the ownership scheme for the Sky Way project is fundamentally different from what the employees of Viktor Morozov and Anatoly Yunitsky are trying to convey to the end consumer with unsecured shares. the main “gateway to the world of the new planetary transport”. This wonderful world is offered to join all interested "investors" for cash. Investors are ordinary suckers, and the Great Transport System is nothing more than an electronic MMM for those who consider themselves too smart to play traditional MMM. It is this, as well as a dull-pushy PR, the presence of a “Potemkin village” [EcoTechnoPark – ed.] for “hamsters” [internet investors – ed.], in the Gomel region of the Republic of Belarus, distinguishes the brainchild of Morozov and Yunitskiy from the brainchild of Mavrodi [well-known Russian scammer – ed.]. That is why Sky Way is still working - their approach is better thought out.
We told you about the history of this system in a separate article. The time has come to find out what lies behind the “Sky Way Group of Companies”, about which the frontman of the system speaks so widely and constantly, the experienced alcoholic and the classic “scam” of Anatoly Yunitskiy. Let us pay special attention to the system Victor Morozov designed and implemented. The main cash flow hub is four offshore companies in the closed jurisdiction of the British Virgin Islands. Initially, Viktor Morozov made the right move, since the jurisdiction of the BVI will remain non-transparent for a long time, despite the declaration of interaction with the Russian FTS [financial transparency system – ed.]. Of course, Viktor Morozov could not have guessed the investigation of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ), one of the projects of the Center for Public Integrity (CPI), an American non-profit organization, regarding the case Panama Papers. This is the informal name for the leak of confidential documents of the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca, which the media in 2012 called the leader of the criminal industry in the country. The results of the research papers cover the period from 1977 to 2015. The main theme of the study of the results of the “Panama dossier” was to make public the presence of hidden property of politicians, major entrepreneurs, including on the territory of the Russian Federation and related conflicts of interest. It was this base that allowed journalists, among other things, to discover the connection of Victor Morozov and Anatoly Yunitsky, as well as to prove their joint ownership of companies IBC UniSky Corporation, Global Transport Investments Inc (GTI) BVI, RSW Investment Group Ltd, Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd BVI. These companies receive cash flow from their “agent companies” registered in the UK. This is FIRST SKYWAY INVEST GROUP LTD (20.11.2014, 09320759, United Kingdom Director Kudryashov Evgeny Anatolyevich), SWIG INTERNATIONAL LTD (09862987, 11/09/2015, United Kingdom, Director Armand Murnieks), SKYPARK LONDON LTD (09862865, 09.11.2015, United Kingdom, Director Armand Murnieks), Global Transnet UK LTD (09457445, 02/25/2015, United Kingdom, Director - Armand Murnieks). Interestingly, Evgeny Kudryashov was the owner of FIRST SKYWAY INVEST GROUP by 10% and Oksana Kudryashova by 90%. The owner of SWIG INTERNATIONAL LTD and SKYPARK LONDON LTD is 100% Armand Murnieks, 40% owned by Global Transnet UK LTD. The other owner of Global Transnet UK LTD, 60% is the parent company Global Transport Investments Inc. (GTI), BVI. There is no doubt that these are the people of Viktor Morozov, who are fully controlled by him personally. In turn, British companies receive money from a variety of Russian LLCs, mainly concentrated in two clusters. The first is the cluster of the Eurasia consumer society (TIN 3811038226, 04/02/2015, Irkutsk, Chairman of the Board Schastlivy Dmitry Viktorovich). The second is the cluster of Miftakhutdinov Salim Galiyevich (TIN 772451505227). The third cluster, personally by Anatoly Yunitsky, has been drastically reduced and “cleaned up” since 2015, at present it is only a demonstration one and does not represent much interest. The general logic of receiving funds from individuals in Russia is based on the sale of shares of the parent company of the system - IBC UniSky Corporation or a minor company Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd BVI. Considering the authorized capital of IBC UniSky Corporation of 400 billion dollars, the number of shares is calculated by the same number. The nominal value of one share is 1 US dollar. Russian companies, as well as British organizations, are agents for the sale of shares to groups of consumers. Keeping for themselves uncontrolled agent fees, they send the main financial flow to Global Transport Investments Inc (GTI) BVI and RSW Investment Group Ltd. accounts. Further movement of these funds can be traced in a criminal case. In general, this resembles a standard scam from the series “sites on the moon” - we draw a beautiful picture, offer a piece of paper with a promise of something material, but not now, but in the future. Nearest and bright. Only idiots and stupid people can believe this. The main point of the scam is that the “Sky Way Group of Companies” misleads buyers and sells them shares of an enterprise that are not secured by anything - there are no assets or intellectual property here. All that UniSky Corporation owns is a “puffed-up charter”, based on the Great Developments of Anatoly Yunitskiy, which, for a review, is obsolete in 1986, the string transport system, the development of which Yunitskiy was involved as a junior co-author. Simply put, Anatoly Yunitskiy is not the owner of the rights to this system, he does not have any patents in the countries of Europe and the United States that could somehow consolidate his “scientific creativity”. This is an old mrazmatik, which owns a cloud of paper stuff on a prototype, which was outdated about thirty years ago. Moreover, this prototype has no practical application. And Anatoly Yunitsky, as well as Viktor Morozov, knew this from the very beginning. But they were able to organize the business so beautifully that under this non-existent “intellectual property” more than 350 thousand people in Russia acquired the unsecured shares of UniSky Corporation. Fraud on an especially large scale, committed by a group of persons by prior agreement, is precisely how the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation interprets this situation. The structure of both “selling” clusters in Russia is similar. At the head of the cluster is a high-class cheater-scam, which exists in the business of deceiving the population for quite some time. This applies to both Dmitry Schastlivy, and Salim Miftahutdinova. Both have tried themselves in all the reincarnations of MMM, both applied cheating technology to the general population. The only difference between these “scammers” is that the Miftakhutdinova cluster additionally specializes in the sale of dietary supplements — for example, OOO Edas International Corporation (TIN 7726394968, 01.20.2017 Moscow, President Miftakhutdinov Salim Galiyevich), CJSC SCIENTIFIC-PRODUCTION MEDICAL AND PHARMACISTECTURAL NATURAL DOCTOR (TIN 5008034956, 03.03.2003, Dolgoprudny, President Miftakhutdinov Salim Galiyevich), LLC “SCIENTIFIC-PRODUCTION COMPLEX OF BIOENERGO-INFORMATION NANOTECHNOLOGIES” (“BENIT”) (INN 501003448) Gen.dir. Miftakhutdinov Salim Galievich), "NATIONAL CENTER OF INTEGRATIVE MEDICINE" (TIN 7726644551, 12.01.2010, Moscow, Gen.dir. Karpeev Alexey Alekseevich) are engaged in daily telephone attack of the elderly. They buy phone databases with personal data on the black market at the filing stations and public health centers. Huge call centers of 400 employees, without breaks and weekends, are tricked by selling "placebo" to those who are desperate to become healthy and want to extend their active life. The cluster of Schastlivy, in addition to the sale of "shares" specializes in the "training" of Internet suckers, the main idea of which is to "make the right investment". With the help of Sky Way Group LLC (TIN 4217164442, 08/29/2014, Novokuznetsk, Gen. Dir. Romanenko Igor Vladimirovich, Other vocational education activities, not included in other groups), TNG LLC (TIN 4217172179, 07.08. 2015, Novokuznetsk, Gen. Dir Romanenko Igor Vladimirovich, Activities on additional professional education, other, not included in other groups), Educational Portal "Eurasia" LLC, 3811443440, 02.20.2017, Irkutsk, Manager - individual entrepreneur Hovsepyan Zhirayr Grachikovich, Additional education for children and adults, other, not included in other groups), "TNG" LLC (TIN 310193290, 07.07.2016, Krasnodar, Gen.dir. Gafiyak Maxim Nikolaevich, Other vocational education activities, not included in other groups), Academy of Private Investor LLC 2310197336, 12/23/2016, Krasnodar, Gen. dir. Goryacheva Svetlana Vladimirovna, Advisory and information services), Venture Investment Fund "New Transport Technologies" (TIN 3811443030, 06.02.2017, Irkutsk, Chairman of the Foundation, Schastlivy Svetlana Viktorovna, Capital investments in capital investments, venture investment, including through investment companies), the Schastlivy cluster forms a huge flow of "important investment information" and successfully recruits numerous people lost in this life. Attempts to get rich without doing anything or investing in a “successful company with a worldwide reputation” entice many, and standard contributions of between 200 and 2 thousand dollars, not counting the sums “for training”, powerful cash flow is transferred to the accounts of foreign organizations-agents Viktor Morozov and Anatoly Yunitsky - of course, for the shares of UniSky Corporation. All of the “executives” declared on the Sky Way websites, with titles such as “traditional investor” or “professional investor”, etc. are members of the organized criminal community of Viktor Morozov, attached to a project with the participation of the main clown Anatoly Yunitsky to successfully ensure fraud against the citizens of the Russian Federation. Since 2014, on the territory of European countries, Anatoly Yunitskiy and Viktor Morozov have become defendants in criminal cases of fraud, but in Russia and Belarus they still feel quite calm. As noted above, the Anatoly Yunitskiy Cluster has recently lost about 15 legal entities, which is obviously an attempt to conceal financial flows before actively investigating a criminal case for fraud. Only String Transport Unitsky (STU) remains at the disposal of Yunitskiy (TIN 7725646852, 09/29/2008, Moscow, Gen. Director. Anatoly Yunitskiy, Research and development in the field of natural and technical sciences), LLC "International Center" TRANSNET ", 7726710170, 04.12.2012, Moscow, Gen.dir. Miftakhutdinov Salim Galiyevich production of railway locomotives and rolling stock) and NPO Unitran Foundation for promoting the development of string transport (non-profit organization) 7704199233, 04/29/1999, Moscow, President Yunitskiy Anatoly Eduardovich). These enterprises allow him to present themselves as sonorous posts like “president” or “general designer”, however, they have nothing but… sweet sounds of these words. Of course, throughout the course of its activities, not a single enterprise in the cluster of Schastlivy, Miftahutdinov or Yunitskiy will never, ever submit financial statements for all periods of its existence. Interestingly, the territorial inspectorates of the Federal Tax Service are experiencing total blindness with respect to these enterprises. They are not subjected to non-cameral checks or criminal prosecution, which gives grounds to assume corruption with the help of links of Victor Morozov. The Sky Way project is definitely a financial pyramid. Its owner, Viktor Morozov, is a criminal, which is recognized in a number of European countries, from which the “successful entrepreneur” with the “dreamer professor” Yunitskiy was forced to move to Russia, and then to Belarus. So he had to flee in 2014 from Lithuania, where, under Shaulyaem, “two friends” also tried to build a “landfill transport system” at the side of the NATO base. Even earlier, they fled from Poland and the Czech Republic, where law enforcement agencies were actively interested in the dishonest conditions for investing in UniSky Corporation. Despite the fact that Viktor Morozov and Anatoly Yunitskiy are still at liberty, this is all temporary. |
Sky Way fails in Belarus (2 April 2018)
This article concerns details of the well known test-site in Marjina Horka that is used to attract potential investors to the project. You view the original here: [339]. If you have reason to believe any of these claims are wrong, please explain why below with any references to verifiable sources which support your claims.
Summary:
- In the 90s Yunitskiy, involved with potato farming, became associated with the criminal underworld in the form of Sergei Morozov.
- In 1996 the ‘String Transport’ scam started and over 350 thousand Russian citizens were deceived.
- In 2006, however, the Supreme Court of the Republic of Belarus sentenced Sergei Morozov and two of his colleagues to death for his criminal activities.
- Yunitskiy continued his work in 2014 under the direction of Victor Morozov, a massive attack was made to victims who had survived the MMM and other Russian scams.
- After fleeing from Lithuania when their attempts to negotiate a “string road” in Siauliai were unsuccesfful, in February 2015 Yunitskiy and Morozov decided to register a new enterprise in the Pukhovichy district near Minsk: “Strunnye Technologii” ZAO [‘String Technologies’ CJSC] where construction began on a testing facility there for the “road of the future”.
- This is all the justification the duped investors needed to willingly pay thousands of dollars to Victor Morozov although they were only welcomed by the comforting face of the “Great Genius Anatoly Yunitskiy” from the pages of the SkyWay cluster of sites.
- All certification which is still used to justify this technology is fake, at best confirming some minor technical details. They do not record real test tesults are do not certify anything. This technology remains untested and this documentation has one function only: to fool ignorant investors.
- The company has attempted to retain its good names by initiating legal action against the press who brought Yunitskiy and his company into disrepute, which included the magazine MODERN PRINT (“СОВРЕМЕННАЯ ПЕЧАТЬ”) who questioned Yunitskiy’s emergency evacuation from Lithuania, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, as well as the risks normal Belarusian citizens took investing in SkyWay projects. In the 2016-2017 period there were four court cases. They were all dismissed.
- The Gomel test site is in decline. In order to revitalize the interest of investors, Morozov started hiring provincial actors of various local theaters who acted as if they were foreign delegations resulting in publicity material being posted to the Yunitskiy websites.
- Victor Morozov is “trying to stop a number of criminal cases against himself and other SkyWay organizers”. They are not interested in the fate of Yunitskiy himself who seems to have be having health problems which may result in his imminent death.
Sky Way терпит неудачу в Белоруссии (2 April 2018) Sky Way fails in Belarus
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https://victormorozov.org/sky-way-terpit-neudachu-v-belorussii/ Sky Way терпит неудачу в Белоруссии Sky Way fails in Belarus 2 April 2018 Every time the creators of the Sky Way scam are asked about their accomplishments, they nod to Belarus, saying the sacred mantra "we have a testing ground." No, not "polygon" but "Polygon!". And show photos of the string track, seemingly heading off into the horizon. However, it’s much easier to check than the drunk Anatoly Yunitskiy and his criminal owner Victor Morozov want to admit. It all started back in 1994, when Tolya Yunitsky, in the intervals between drinking, organized an analogue of a peasant farm — IP Yunitskiy, Anatoly Eduardovich. At Gomel, st. Kirova 90/40, where the “ingenious inventor” then lived, in the five-story building of the Khrushchev times, started the usual process of digging potatoes, for which Anatoly Eduardovich forced a riotous famine. But, with the beginnings of an entrepreneurial buddy, he approached the matter scientifically - he registered an IP and tried to grow this pig food [low quality potatoes, -ed.] on the fields of local collective farms, and the IP needed him to sell products to the nearest Gomel stores, trade in the market and save on taxes. However, after several attempts to act independently, he realized that it was impossible to bypass organized crime and began to pay them. It was then that he met the head of the “Morozov” grouping, Sergei Morozov, who was protecting the scam, racketeering and prostitution in Belarusian Gomel. According to the data of the prosecutor's office, the operatives of the “local rubop” have been working closely and specifically against the Morozov group since 1999. Employees of the Main Directorate for Combating Organized Crime and Corruption of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Prosecutor's Office and the Investigation Department of the Internal Affairs Directorate of the Gomel Regional Executive Committee opened the first “Morozovskoe” criminal case in December 2004. But it was only on December 1, 2006 that the Supreme Court of the Republic of Belarus issued a guilty verdict against about three dozen participants of the “Morozov” criminal organization who were being held in the case. Its leader and creator Sergey Morozov, as well as the two most active participants Valery Gorbaty and Igor Danchenko were sentenced to an exceptional measure of punishment - the death penalty. The sentence is enforced. The remaining members of the criminal organization received a sentence of imprisonment from 6 to 20 years. Nikolai Losev, the former head of the criminal investigation department of the Gomel Department of Internal Affairs who covered the bandits, was sentenced to 18 years in prison and deprived of the rank of police colonel. But all this will be only in 2006, but for now the enterprise, which did not bring much profit, will be liquidated by Anatoly Yunitsky in 1998, when he, already firmly seated on alcohol and soft drugs, will start to work closely, and with the support of the “Morozovskys”, engage in a major string transport . The beginning of the process in which more than 350 thousand citizens of Russia were deceived began in Belarus in 1996. The reincarnation of the Sky Way scam began in 2014, after a massive attack on the Internet of everyone who survived after MMM, MMM-2, binary options, forex, and similar Internet frauds of modern times. Details of this are described in a separate article. After fleeing from Lithuania, where Victor Morozov attempted to build a “string road” landfill in the Siauliai suburb, in February 2015, a decision was made about a covering operation in a more favorable area. At the same time, the Inspectorate of the Ministry of Taxes and Tax Collection in the Pukhovichi district registered a new enterprise, Anatoly Yunitskiy and Viktor Morozov, in the territory of the Republic of Belarus - closed joint-stock company “String Technologies” (UNP 192425076). And at the address Minsk Region., Pukhovichi District, Novoselkovsky village, ag. Novoselki, st. Lenin, d.1a, place of registration of the enterprise, and began the construction of the very "Landfill", which, from that time, everywhere and everywhere boasts the unrecognized genius Yunitskiy. Already then it became clear that a powerful “screen” was needed, which can be seen from everywhere, including satellites. And it was from the end of 2014 that the Polygon project was launched. Eight hundred and fifty piles, three roads, one and a half “pontovyh” buildings and many options for “capsules” for the “road of the future” - in principle, this is all that was necessary for Internet hamsters. Frowning from the seeming "seriousness" of the company, they gave thousands of dollars to Viktor Morozov. And only the Great Genius Anatoly Yunitsky smiled tenderly at them from the pages of the Sky Way cluster of sites (albeit in those rare moments when he could stand upright). By and large, the Gomel training ground is a modern analogue of the “Potemkin village”. The central building of the landfill is just a pavilion of prefabricated steel structures which costs a penny. Everything inside is a screen and decoration. All the hanging elements on the “string highways” are decorative, and the “capsules” created by the Great Genius are simply plastic and sheet metal props. None of these capsules ever moved with a large gathering of journalists, and never, after unsuccessful trials, were written about in the press, inside people no longer roll. Visits of paid journalists and “bloggers” who were flattered by the completely irresponsible Anatoly Yunitskiy were among the alleys of young apple trees - according to legend, they were allowed by the founder of the Sky Way to plant only at least 2 thousand dollars for the project. There were many such suckers too. And Eco Fest, an annual festival invented by narcotic delirium, was intended to attract doubters to the test site. In addition, Yunitskiy, as never before, was bored and needed new drinking companions - he did not experience their lack during the “festival” period. The implementation of the project “Landfill” allowed Viktor Morozov and Anatoly Yunitsky to endlessly say that “everything works”. However, on verification, this was not at all the case. The frenzied activity of all the criminals connected with Sky Way gave birth to the long-known principle of all fraudsters - the imitation of violent activity. The fact is that there is no working model for Morozov and Yunitskiy, and never was. All certificates that are received by various legal entities, which Yunitskiy and Morozov assign to the “Sky Way Company” (which simply does not exist legally) are merely fake papers confirming “scientific developments” or allowing to proceed to testing. At the extreme option - they just confirm some minor technical details. They do not record any real achievements and are not permission documents. This is just a set of candy wrappers, important only for one thing - to show ignorant "investors" that things are moving. Of course, it moves - into the void. The Sky Way project is just an analogue of pornography - there is progress on the screen, but after watching the viewer looks around and understands that the beautiful picture was gone, but in reality nothing happened. And, fastening his pants, he realizes that this time everything was not real again. This is what the fraud of Viktor Morozov and Anatoly Yunitskiy is built on - to keep the attention of “hamsters-investors” until one of them guesses. If someone shrewd starts shouting about deception, but he is isolated from the Sky Way project and he continues to do it alone. All the rest - magically believe. All this was reminiscent of the long-standing story of the Russian-Japanese war, when the Japanese consul Kabayasi many times asked the governor of Sakhalin Lyapishev for permission to open Japanese stores: “In the evening, Lyapishev accepted the Japanese consul without any hunting. Kabayashi asked him for permission to open stores with goods from Sigiura in the villages of Sakhalin. “Mr. Consul,” Lyapishev answered wearily, “you often ask me for consent to open stores.” I give you permission every time. But there are still no Sigiura shops. And you again come to me with a question about the resolution of the stores. Kabayasi listened to the governor with a smile: - We, the Japanese, would like to find out the pressing issues of the Sakhalin market. If we have studied well what the women of Paris like or what the Chinese in Canton like, then we cannot grasp the needs of the people of your Sakhalin. ” It is needless to add that the main goal of the Japanese was intelligence on the frontiers of the Russian empire before the Russian-Japanese war. However, the behavior of Viktor Morozov and Anatoly Yunitsky is very similar - to hold out as long as possible, rob as many as possible of Russian citizens. And then ... however, they believe that no "later" will be gone and everyone will safely forget about them. The Gomel project “Landfill”, registered with the Closed Joint-Stock Company “String Technologies” (UNP 192425076), is a fake infrastructure for a good “picture”. However, it is treated extremely unfortunate. The company has substantial debts to the budget of the republic and very soon the tax inspectorate will deal with all the dark affairs of an organization that does not even find time to hand over the next annual balance for 2017. However, to imitate the turbulent activity of CJSC String Technologies, it also upholds its “good name” - having managed to participate in four lawsuits for 2016-2017, which was initiated in all cases. However, all claims are of a penny nature and none of them went beyond the equivalent of 1.5 thousand US dollars. One of the noisiest processes was a lawsuit against the Belarusian media, LLC MODERN PRINT (“СОВРЕМЕННАЯ ПЕЧАТЬ”), a journalist who doubted the mental adequacy of Anatoly Yunitskiy and asked him a group of questions about the reasons for the emergency evacuation from Lithuania, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, as well as the financial performance of the parent company project. Having received no answer, the author simply and affordably wrote about the risks of the Sky Way project for ordinary citizens of Belarus and called on law enforcement agencies to inspect ZAO String Technologies. This extremely upset Anatoly Yunitskiy. Assessing moral damage in the amount of 1 thousand. US dollars, he rushed "into battle." However, the fair Economic Court of the city of Minsk rejected his claims to MODERN PRINTING LLC and discontinued the proceedings. On the Sky Way sites, this is still viewed from the very opposite angle - they say, Yunitskiy, protecting investors from slander, shortened the provincial journalists. Everything the couple Morozov and Yunitsky touches turns into manure. The Gomel test site is in decline - an enticing picture no longer pleases new members of the Sky Way sect. True, in order to “revitalize the process,” Viktor Morozov started hiring provincial actors from Belarus and the near regions of Russia, who portray members of foreign delegations. Reports allegedly about their “familiarization trips” to the Sky Way test site regularly appear on the Yunitskiy website. Secondary actors of the Belarusian Republican Young Spectator Theater, the Republican Drama Theater, the Brest Academic Drama Theater, the Vitebsk Youth Theater “Koleso” Gomel Regional Drama Theater. However, even the makeup is not able to change the appearance very much, and someday this “carousel” of delegations will come to an end. The flow of staged pictures has plummeted since 2018. In addition, Viktor Morozov is trying to stop a number of criminal cases against himself and other Sky Way organizers. The fate of Anatoly Yunitskiy doesn’t bother him - the Great genius speaks smoothly only after he drinks and has strong memory problems. Many years of drunkenness greatly undermined the health of Yunitskiy and his inner circle seriously fears his premature death. The Sky Way project is gradually collapsing. It is known that the electronic infrastructure is often disconnected for non-payment of hosting, in January 2018 the unit “work with sucker clients” was sharply reduced, and the rest were given an almost impracticable plan to purchase new shares of the project. Everything ends, and the "investors" of the project, obviously, do not wait for it to move to the next stage. The security team is fed up with unpaid wages and newsmen and cameramen refuse to work in debt. The transition to the active phase of the investigation of criminal cases will inevitably entail the detention of many managers of this modern Internet scam, which caused damage of no less than 200 million US dollars. |
“Side companies” of the SkyWay Project (9 July 2018)
This article concerns the side activities of companies in the SkyWay Group controlled by the Schastlivy family who target potential investors, funnel funds to offshore locations, actively influence the media, negatively campaign against critics and help to disrupt any legal actions investors make against the SkyWay Group.
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SUMMARY:
- Dmitry Viktorovich SCHASTLIVY [confirmed as SkyWay staff member here: [340] –ed.] is an important participant in the SkyWay operation. Based in Irkutsk, Schastlivy was responsible for concealing where money actually ended up that was invested in the UniSky Corporation.
- Dmitry Schastlivy and his sister Svetlana control two groups of companies.
- The first are a set of cover companies to conceal funding and promote publicity; the company names include suitably ambiguous titles like “New Transport Technologies” (which sponsors almost exclusively bloggers and regional journalists to write second-rate articles praising SkyWay) and “National Economic Development” (which promotes “investor training” and negative campaigns against SkyWay critics).
- The second group of companies called LLC “Expert” and LLC “Aspect”, in charge of Dmitry and Svetlana respectively, are legal companies designed to make life difficult for people who made legal complaints against the SkyWay companies.
- These legal companies also oversaw the registration of the English block of the system (companies like “SWIG International Ltd.” and “First Skyway Invest Group Ltd.”): “While Armands Murnieks and Kudryashov… smiled encouragingly at ‘potential investors’ from the pages of SkyWay websites and at endless ‘training’ seminars… laywers of Expert and Aspect formed legally void agreements, allowing them to steal funds with impunity from investors in exchange for beautiful multi-coloured pieces of paper, which can only be seen as stock certificates if you completely misunderstand what this term means.”
- Social media influences public opinion these days even more than traditional media. Victor Morozov and his SkyWay companies have demonstrated an awareness of this change. This is particularly observable in the change of emphasis towards Anatoly Yunitskiy and the scientific developments which will receive final expression in three years: “no one mentions Victor Morozov; all accent has been shifted to … Yunitskiy and almost no one remembers about Morozov’s accomplices like Dmitry Schastlivy.”
- Morozov’s PR activity is fairly easy to interpret: if he shifts the emphasis to new faces, he’ll be able to safely disappear into the shadows when the pyramid finally collapses.
- When you have companies who are legally informed and manipulate the media (which is certainly true of the Schastlivy family), “it is difficult to connect ‘A and B’ especially if there are people working the project whose main task is ‘A and B’ should not be connected. In other words the major function of the Schastlivy companies to influence the public through bribing the media and threatening them with the legal system.
«Боковые компании» проекта SkyWay (9 July 2018) “Side Companies” of the SkyWay Project
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https://victormorozov.org/bokovye-kompanii-proekta-sky-way/ «Боковые компании» проекта SkyWay “Side Companies” of the SkyWay Project 9 July 2018 Internet fraud of the last decade under the futuristic name "String Transport Unitsky" or "project Sky Way" for many years will present surprises. By unwinding a long bundle of related companies, it will be possible to detect many criminal companies set up to steal citizens' funds. But if the investigation will deal with the cash-laundering network quickly enough, then with the “side” companies that also took part in the rehabilitation and laundering of funds obtained by criminal means, everything will be somewhat more complicated. One of the active participants in the Sky Way scheme was Dmitry Viktorovich Schastlivy (TIN 380101081982), whose work requires serious study. Being one of the two trustees of the organizer of the scheme, Viktor Morozov, Dmitry Viktorovich controlled a significant piece of the Sky Way cluster, and carried out the so-called. "blood transfusion". It consisted in concealing the “ends” of the funds of the investors who trusted Anatoly Yunitskiy under the pretext of buying the mythical shares of UniSky Corporation. Irkutsk was the hometown of Dmitry Schastlivy. It was there that he formed his infrastructure for the criminal project SkyWay. In addition to the group of "educational enterprises", there were two groups of companies. The first was related to cover companies - venture fund “New Transport Technologies” (3811443030) and the Irkutsk Regional Public Organization “People's Economic Development” (TIN 3811443785). The foundation was chaired by a special trustee of Dmitry Schastlivy - his sister, Svetlana Schastlivy, the president of the public organization became Dmitry Schastlivy. The second group of companies were two law offices - LLC “Law Firm“ Expert ”” (TIN 3811152232) and LLC “Aspect” (TIN 3811173930), whose management, again, the accomplices shared - “Expert” was “ruled” by Dmitry Viktorovich himself, and The Aspect entrusted to Svetlana Viktorovna. Ownership of the company was also for both relatives in varying proportions. And if Expert LLC and Aspect LLC were created “at the dawn” of the era of Sky Way Internet expansion in the regions - in the period 2011-2013, then People's Economic Development LLC and the New Transport Technologies Foundation were registered at the end - at the beginning of 2017. The difference of five years between these companies marks the main stages of the criminal life of both the organizer of the scheme, Viktor Morozov, and his organized criminal community. For all the time of its existence, LLC Expert and LLC Aspect were engaged in only one thing - they showed the fiscal authorities how bad life was for honest lawyers. That is why the financial statements of companies do not contain any revenue or fixed assets. One and a half pencil and a rented computer are all the achievements of companies over five years of work. Even the salary in organizations was a big question, not to mention the total non-payment of personal income tax and contributions to state funds. But this did not prevent them from carrying out their main task - disrupting all the cases in the courts of the deceived Sky Way investors as representatives of the infinite cluster of companies of Dmitriy Schastlivy and active salesperson of Viktor Morozov - Salim Miftahutdinov. Involving lawyers with criminal reputations into the “project work”, LLC Expert and LLC Aspect also served as a liaison with the registrars of the English block of the system - overseeing the functioning “on paper” of SWIG INTERNATIONAL LTD, SKYPARK LONDON LTD, Global Transnet UK LTD and FIRST SKYWAY INVEST GROUP LTD. While Armand Murnieks, Kudryashov Yevgeny Anatolyevich and Oksana Kudryashova smiled encouragingly at “potential investors” from the pages of Sky Way websites and at endless “training” seminars and even webinars, lawyers of OOO Expert and Aspect LLC formed legally void agreements, allowing with impunity to steal funds of investors in exchange for beautiful multi-colored pieces of paper, which can be considered stock certificates only by great misunderstanding. Attempts by some of the investors who had matured to recover their funds came up against the legal barrier of all the same “lawyers” LLC Expert and LLC Aspect, the overwhelming majority of whom had external signs of regular residence in places not so distant. These "figures" by means of minimal incentives for the representatives of the judiciary successfully "resolved the issue" with the repulse of all claims of unfortunate investors. The performance of the companies of the “late period” Sky Way was caused by a sweep, announced by Viktor Morozov for the entire cluster of Internet scam. Cash receipts plummeted and, despite the vigorous activity of salespeople, revenues sank very significantly. The main proceeds from the stolen $ 200 million basically ended at the end of 2016. Registration of the New Transport Technologies Fund and the People’s Economic Development public organization is just a part of the covering operation. Many read the media - without online newspapers or news sites it is no longer possible to imagine the media space of our country. We receive all the operational news electronically, traditional newspapers and magazines are not as popular as a decade earlier. Using specialized systems such as Medialogia or Prism, one can very quickly understand how the discussion of a topic changes, from Internet portals to regional blogs or individual journals and Vkontakte groups. Such topics can be very ambiguous, but the operations of the media cover are to shift the emphasis, when the topic is simply impossible to shut up. So it was in the case of Sky Way - with Viktor Morozov, the topic was skillfully diverted towards Anatoly Yunitsky and String Technologies. If at the beginning of 2017 there was a talk about the project “is about to fire”, then a year later the media activity tells us something completely different - there is a long building of a stable and breakthrough scientific and technical project ahead, the results of which will be within three years. Simply put, by 2021 everything will be “exactly finished”, and all stages of the project launch have been completed. No one mentions Victor Morozov, all accents are shifted entirely on the alcoholic “Perzident” and Magician-magician Yunitsky, and almost no one remembers about Victor Morozov’s accomplices like Dmitry Schastlivy. The New Transport Technologies Foundation and the People’s Economic Development Public Organization are direct participants in this process. It is on their behalf that mythical characters propagandize new investments in Sky Way, wild price cuts on share packages and sponsor hamsters contests - who will better tell about the “great project of our time” on the Internet. But Victor Morozov understands perfectly well that all possible revenues have already been accomplished, this project has exhausted itself and for the second year the Internet has been subjected to its large-scale covering operation. His PR activity is fairly obvious: shift the emphasis to new faces, new names, completely forgetting about old things. Another year and a half and you can safely go into the shadows, from where Victor Morozov can only get the efforts of operational law enforcement officers. The whole activity of the Venture Investment Fund “New Transport Technologies” consists exclusively in sponsoring “manual bloggers” and writing second-rate articles by regional journalists. Calls to believe in the Yunitskiy transport system consist only in shifting the focus of attention. Calling “fire on herself”, Svetlana Schastlivy, the Chairman of the Foundation, understands perfectly well - she will not have to answer for what she did personally, and making all claims to the organizers of the scheme is extremely difficult. In the blue eye, she will assure media representatives that she believes in the project to the depths of her soul and even sends the lion’s share of “investments” into it. But the financial statements of the company are still missing, and the fund itself is simply an LLC with a big name, it has never been audited and does not store its assets in a special depository. Simply put - it is a loud "bunch" and nothing more. But this deception will be revealed in a year or two, which will enable Victor Morozov to finally "leave the stage." The public organization “National Economic Development” will help the venture fund with this - “breakfasts” for suckers-investors, promotion of investments in “promising technologies”, assistance in “investing training” - all those activities that will be focused on the new “clients”, as well as all the hatred of those who have already suffered from Sky Way. However, legally, everything is very transparent, since the law does not prohibit conducting such events and “conscientiously err”. It is possible to prove the affiliation of the Schastlivy family only within the framework of the criminal case, and for most people, special databases and media background aggregators are not available. And, as a result, it is very difficult to connect “A and B”, especially if there are people working in the project whose main task is that “A and B” should never be connected. The Sky Way project is not finished. He is still harvesting a bountiful crop of heart attacks and suicides from the economically active population. People who believed Viktor Morozov and his alcoholic clown Anatoly Yunitskiy, in the majority, lost if not all, very much. Losses affected are estimated at more than 200 million US dollars. It remains to rely on the reaction of law enforcement agencies in investigating the crimes of the OPS Morozov and stopping their attempts to evade responsibility. Chronicles of modern Russia are still far from complete on a good note. However, there is confidence that the activities of the OPS of Victor Morozov will soon be terminated, and the guilty will be punished. |
“Wallets” of the Sky Way organizer (20 September 2018)
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SUMMARY:
- Although Morozov and co developed their business through network marketing and direct telephone sales, with the arrival of broadband internet into every home in the period after 2011 they quickly switched their operations to the internet.
- In the turbulent 2000s several companies were created for Anatoly Yunitskiy. He remained unaware that governmental regulatory agencies would check any claims he made; he continued to believe that he was a great genius destined to save humanity.
- Yunitskiy String Transport LLC still exists today; although STU-Dubna LLC created in 2008 was transformed into "Strunnye Technologii ZAO" ['String Technologies CJSC' -ed.] in March 2011. Somehow thanks to Viktor Morozov part of the 4 billion rubles [which had already been transferred to an offshore location] was returned to Yunitskiy: “only accountants and corrupt employees of the Federal Tax Service who covered this liquidation know how”.
- However, 5% was owned by the son of the inventor (Denis Antolyevich Yunitskiy). Denis Antolyevich managed to check in five more profile companies of his father such as “Center for String Technologies” in Ulyanovsk – probably distant from tax authorities in Moscow to avoid questioning.
- Under the direction of Morozov, Yunitskiy paired up with Salim Galiyevich MIFTAKHUTDINOV to create the “Sky Way Group of Companies” such as the “International Center TRANSNET”.(see a similarly named company Miftakhutdinov registered in London here: [341] -ed.)
- To this list can be added the non-profit organization “Unitran” for which Anatoly Yunitskiy claimed imaginary charity linked directly to bringing his mythical string transport to troubled countries in Africa, the Middle East and Latin American. The intention was to unload this technology in Delhi, Jakarta, Karachi and Mexico City. Needless to say, mayors of these cities have never heard of Yunitskiy or his technology.
- ”Yunitskiy String Transport” company liked to boast to the press about its authorized capital of 3.8 billion rubles thanks to the intellectual contribution of Yunitskiy. Morozov deliberately launched this financial nonsense in all interviews with Yunitskiy in order to create the illusion of stability in the SkyWay criminal cluster. Small investors saw the Federal Tax service reports which confirmed these claims and spent a lot of money on brightly colored pieces of papers that pretended they were shares of the “IBC UniSky Corporation”.
- Although the BVI companies “IBC UniSky Corporation”, “Global Transport Investments Inc.”, “Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd.” and “RSW Investment Group Ltd.” names keep turning up, Yunitskiy never mentions the company “Sinfora Holding Inc.” Victor Morozov has a vested interest in keeping this particular company secret.
- It was in these companies that around $200 million of the investment of Russian citizens was effectively white-washed. These activities will come under the radar of Russian legal entities and Morozov, Yunitskiy and all others involved will be punished.
«Кошельки» организаторов Sky Way
(20 September 2018) "Wallets" of the Sky Way organizer
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http://victormorozov.org/koshelki-organizatorov-sky-way/ «Кошельки» организаторов Sky Way "Wallets" of the Sky Way organizers 20 September 2018 Ever since Gomel times, Anatoly Yunitsky has imagined himself a great entrepreneur. Sometimes he likes to recall his first enterprise in colors - a peasant farm named after himself, organized in Gomel in 1994, to collect pork feed (Belarusian potatoes of extremely poor quality). Violent famine, anarchy and dismissal from a second-class design bureau, which, at the same time as the collapse of the Soviet Union ceased to build failing searchlights to send astronauts to Mars and Jupiter, spurred entrepreneurial thinking. But some earned millions, and Anatoly Yunitsky made great plans. However, a decade later, Anatoly Eduardovich had “his own” enterprises. It was already much later than his acquaintance with the Gomel gangster Sergei Morozov, who had defrauded the scams, racketeering and prostitution in the glorious city of Gomel. Belarusian law enforcement officers seized the very first “owner” of Yunitskiy in 2004, and shot them in 2006. Those times are long gone, Yunitskiy has a new criminal owner, also Morozov - but Viktor Vasilyevich. However, the desire to command is left. It is implemented in the remnants of its “business empire”, through the efforts of the Morozov’s security and fire alarm system, as superfluous as it was liquidated in the period 2011-2014. In times of weak Internet, the fraudulent project Sky Way developed through network marketing and direct telephone sales. They called on the “bases of the suckers” received from sellers of similar low-quality goods that were worth big money. With the arrival of fast communication channels and the penetration of “broadband” into every home - Victor Morozov switched the Sky Way cluster to the Internet. At the same time, a decision was made to sharply reduce Russian enterprises of swindlers, including the “owned” to the Great Luminary of Russian and Belarusian science, General Designer of string transport - Anatoly Eduardovich Yunitskiy. Of course, possession of many legal entities was purely nominal, and the application was the most practical, but rather dull. Many Yunitskiy offices were cashed in a large part of the funds received by the Russian Sky Way cluster from unsuspecting suckers. At the same time, they didn’t worry much - the money was often given out “under the report” to real and imaginary employees of the enterprise. The other part was sent to the network. In the turbulent 2000s, several companies with sonorous names were created for Anatoly Yunitskiy. On their behalf, it was “prestigious” (in the view of Yunitskiy himself) to speak with prepaid journalists, to go to various forums and congresses of idlers who were going to simply “rally” about life overlooking Lake Geneva or the Mediterranean. Anatoly Eduardovich was unaware that in more or less decent companies they do not believe in the word, and all big names are checked by the specialists of the economic security department. But since Yunitskiy was not engaged in real affairs, he continued to remain in the blissful euphoria of his Great Genius and the true Transformer of humanity. The garbage dump of Yunitskiy String Transport LLC (TIN 7725646852) still exists today, but STU-Dubna LLC (TIN 5010038235), created on November 11, 2008, was reorganized into Center of String Technologies JSC and cleaned up on 03/31/2011. According to the longstanding, rather stupid, tradition, Yunitskiy achieved from Viktor Morozov the inclusion in the authorized capital of his Great Intellectual Property for 4 billion rubles. How, with what wild labor and how it was written off during the liquidation of the Center for Stringing Technologies OJSC, only accountants and corrupt employees of the Federal Tax Service who covered this liquidation know. Nothing significant, except for participation in the Sky Way scam, these companies are not seen. However, 5% of the shareholder of the OJSC was the son of the Great Inventor - Yunitsky Denis Anatolyevich. Familyhood in such a matter is even to the benefit - Denis Anatolyevich managed to check in five more profile companies of his father, such as OJSC “Center for String Technologies” in Ulyanovsk (TIN 5010040611), who changed the address from the Moscow region to a “distant region” in order to be guaranteed to be eliminated without unnecessary questions from the tax authorities, as well as in the long-time office of the registration of transport system "azhzhzhzh with the President in the form of his father. This fund was “clogged” by the tax authorities, on the instructions of Viktor Morozov, already 22.12.2016, on the basis of the magic clause 2 of Article 21.1 of the Federal Law of 08.08.2001 No. 129-ФЗ. Adoring loud names, and striving, on the orders of Viktor Morozov, to create a “Sky Way Group of Companies”, within which he himself could break the leg from mutual claims, obligations and “drawn debts”, Anatoly Yunitsky visited the head and founder of “String Transport Technologies” (eliminated 24.07 .2012), LLC NTL (liquidated under paragraph 2 of Article 21.1 of the Federal Law of 08/08/2001 No. 129-FZ of February 19, 2007) and, of course, LLC International Center TRANSNET (TIN 7726710170). In this company, “in a pair”, Yunitsky was fastened to the long-time salesman of manure, Miftakhutdinov Salim Galiyevich, to at least somehow control the inclinations of the Great Genius to receive “unaccountable sums” from the cash register for alcohol and drugs. However, at the turn of 2018, only the International Center TRANSNET LLC and the String Transport Unitsky LLC were still “in the deck” of an unrecognized genius. It should be added to this solitaire and NPO "Unitran" Fund for the promotion of string transport (non-profit organization) (TIN 7704199233), on behalf of which Anatoly Yunitskiy was so fond of claiming imaginary charity - the use of which he linked directly with the supply of his mythical string transport to troubled countries in Africa, the Middle East and Latin America. The goal, as always, was “good” - to unload the land communications of Delhi, Jakarta, Karachi and Mexico City. However, employees of the mayors of these cities have never heard of either Yunitsky himself or his proposals. Everything remained only on paper and in loud statements in Russian, which are not well understood in Indonesia or Venezuela. The financial statements of enterprises, according to a long-standing tradition, never gave up. However, Yunitsky String Transport LLC was an exception and liked to boast in the press with its authorized capital of 3.8 billion rubles. 99.9% of this amount was provided by the intellectual contribution of the Great Genius. Viktor Morozov deliberately launched this financial nonsense in all the interviews of Anatoly Yunitsky in order to create the illusion of stability in the criminal cluster Sky Way. The hamsters-investors, haunted by the unusually huge numbers of the statutory, which was also “confirmed” by the information on the official website of the Federal Tax Service, actively hawked all this nonsense, actively buying colored pieces of shares of IBC UniSky Corporation, which promised unprecedented profits. Against the background of Yunitsky’s fantasies and the precise calculation of Viktor Morozov, Bitcoin is simply “resting.” Interestingly, in his interviews, Anatoly Yunitsky never mentioned Sinfora Holding Inc, registered in the British Virgin Islands, like the entire original Sky Way criminal cluster in IBC UniSky Corporation, Global Transport Investments Inc., Euroasian Rail Skyway Systems Ltd, and RSW Investment Group Ltd . All of them are worthy of a separate story, but Sinfora Holding Inc, undoubtedly, is one of Viktor Morozov-controlled, specially hidden from prying eyes of companies-wallets. It was in them, after the “washing” in the millstones of the “English” Sky Way cluster, that the money came from Russian citizens, according to the most modest estimates of law enforcement agencies, estimated at $ 200 million. The investigation of Viktor Morozov and Anatoly Yunitsky’s activities will still return to the existence of Russian legal entities and all those involved in their criminal activity, as well as at least criminal elimination, will incur deserved punishment. |
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