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"Odesa"

@TaivoLinguist: The form "Odesa", most likely a transliteration of its native Ukrainian name, finds frequent usage in English-language literature as evident by a simple Google Books search. For example, Breaking the Tounge by Matthew D Pauly reads "The city and region of Odesa (Russian: Odessa) [...]". Otherwise, Google also returns 5 million web resources listing "Odesa", of which most are in English.

Another example I gave previously is Google Maps, the most-used maps service, which also lists "Odesa" (conversely, though, OpenStreetMap shows "Odessa"). Furthermore, video game company Ubisoft recently announced a studio in the city that will be called "Ubisoft Odesa".

Obviously, "Odessa" is more common, and I won't request renaming the page, but a simple mention of "Odesa" is more than warranted. Lordtobi (✉) 09:40, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Now Odessa more common beacause Russian Empire and his later variation called Sovet Union used russian language as main. But now Odesa is Ukrainian town and Odesa appearance rise by time Investigatio (talk) 12:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Odessa is not Russian. It is an English name. Saying that the English name Odessa is Russian is like saying that the English name Jennifer is Cornish. it may have roots in either Russian or Ukrainian but in English anyway, it has bleep all to do with Russian, just as in English, Jennifer has bleep all to do with Cornish. 199.101.62.225 (talk) 15:02, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

But our city have a name Odesa because foreign names translated from ukrainian. When this lands occupied Russian Empire someone invent name "Одесса" in Russion language. But now its territory of ukraine and all true names is mawes whos written in ukrainan language. For Odesa name with single "s" is used. Investigatio (talk) 12:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also how many of those results are either discussions about wether to call it Odessa or Odesa, and how many results are about other places that use the Odesa spelling? I went to Sri Lanka a few years ago and stayed in a place called Odesa Town House, (Odesa is pronounced as oh-dee-zuh, with the ode part being like the letters o and D and the sa part like a za). 199.101.62.225 (talk) 15:03, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Odesa" is even less likely to ever be the most common English usage (Google searches are really not very reliable, by the way), than "Kyiv". Why? Because of Odessa, Texas; Odessa, California; Odessa... as English placenames. --Taivo (talk) 21:50, 15 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Because in english speaking countries local cities named Odessa as native name. In ukraine Одесса is not original name. It's only at unofficial russian language. Maybe in Texas Odessa have two "s", But Odesa, Ukraine have only one Investigatio (talk) 12:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You clearly don't understand the concept of an exonym in a language. There are not "different spellings" of English exonyms. There is but one. "Odessa" is not a Russian word now nor is it a Ukrainian one. It is an English name for a range of cities around the globe including the city in Ukraine. Ukrainians simply don't have the power to change that at the drop of a hat because they don't like the way that English speakers spell an English name. --Taivo (talk) 15:22, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think this discussion needs to be closed, unless somebody is willing to make an official rename request and present evidence. I believe that the acknowledgement in the article is good enough for now. And again, as I said from my previous IP address, Odessa is no more a Russian name than Jennifer is a Cornish name, which is to say not at all. somebody please close this discussion if this is all that she wrote here, as this is going nowhere fast. 38.111.120.74 (talk) 04:48, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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