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edit request

Hm, I just want to point out to Wdchk that he reverted some small edits that helped establish flow, accuracy, & neutrality in a few paragraphs. I’d just revert it if it weren’t for the fact that I’m on mobile & it’d start a juvenile edit war...66.41.37.182 (talk) 23:54, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Declined. I agree with Wdchk's rationale: "without explanation, not clearly an improvement". You've done nothing here to justify those edits. --Yamla (talk) 10:41, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Do I even need to elaborate on how changing the wording from “unbridled” to “volatile” for Pesci’s characters more accurately fits, esp. in Casino? Changing from something arguable like “excessive” violence to “graphic” for that film, esp. considering Goodfellas & Gangs of New York wasn’t much better? And I didn’t know Raging Bull must absolutely have “widely viewed as masterpiece” as an unchangeable label, where not even “often considered” can work.
Anyway, Scorsese pages often have some sort of misguided fanboyism going on so your statements aren’t surprising. 66.41.37.182 (talk) 15:05, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

full name on Yahoo Movies

On the Yahoo Movies biography of Scorsese the full name is identified as Martin Marcantonio Luciano Scorsese. Is that any more credible than a log of political contributions that identifies him as "Martin C. Scorsese"? Andrewlp1991 (talk) 21:39, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Sorry if I'm putting this in the wrong spot: Added "Marty" to his first name as he is referenced in the article and sources as "Marty" on occasion, as well as in the iPhone commercial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KyleHermann (talk • contribs) 22:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

middle name

When editing, at the top of the article it reads

Martin C. Scorsese<!-- please attach a definitive reliable source of some sort before changing middle name -->




Isn't IMDb credible enough? There, it says

Martin Marcantonio Luciano Scorsese,

with no middle name starting with the letter c to be found. – ὁ οἶστρος (talk) 17:31, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Oops, should've seen the above. And while I don't consider Yahoo! Movies to be an authoritative and therefore suitable source, I'm of the opinion IMDb is, and I concur that Martin Marcantonio Luciano Scorsese is the name that should be used in the introduction and infobox. – ὁ οἶστρος (talk) 17:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't see any discussion of this in the talk archives. WP:RS/IMDB says that no, IMDB isn't reliable enough a source as it's written by volunteer editors, much like Wikipedia and their info isn't referenced. Up until 18 Jan 2010 the name listed in the Wikipedia article was Martin Marcantonio Luciano Scorsese. All Hallows Wraith found the political donations source, which gives Scorsese's middle name as Charles. Since then our article name has stayed 'Charles' or 'C'. No search on Google Books turn up 'Charles' as far as I can see. The New York Times, The Washington Post, a Scorsese biography and The Passion of Martin Scorsese: A Critical Study of the Films give his full name as Martin Marcantonio Luciano Scorsese. I would take these sources over the political donations listing. We could re-add 'Martin Marcantonio Luciano Scorsese' and if any other reliable sources for Charles come to light, we could reconsider.Span (talk) 23:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed – and great sources: two renowned newspapers and two published books, what more could possibly be needed?
(As for IMDb: As opposed to Wikipedia, IMDb has a "filter" in the form of staff manually checking submissions before clearing them, and while the system is far from perfect – I submit corrections rather regularly –, it still is of quite high quality in many instances and regards and de facto very likely already used heavily by Wikipedians, especially where filmographies are concerned. So I'm not sure the absolutist wording and tone of WP:RS/IMDb makes much sense anymore. But none of this matters here, since you invoke other, arguably much more suitable sources.) – ὁ οἶστρος (talk) 21:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I re-added "Martin Marcantonio Luciano Scorsese" and refs. Few people seem to be enforcing any black listing of it as a source, though they seemed to try at one time. There is much here that goes on de facto that isn't a good idea. I would always favour the strongest sources possible; IMDb really isn't very strong. Enjoy the weekend. Best wishes Span (talk) 22:36, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
None of the sources you mentioned precede Wikipedia's mention of this as his name. They all obviously just copied it. I would trust Gary Boyd Roberts, a professional genealogist, who lists it as Charles. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Aside from that, California Divorce Records lists Martin C. Scorsese divorcing Laraine Brennan in 1972 (listed at ancestry.com). All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 22:53, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that just because a source comes later than a Wikipedia article it undermines the source. That would mean than any book, article or essay coming later than a WP mention is deemed unreliable. It is not an obvious deduction with Scorsese that they must have copied it from Wikipedia. The four sources are pretty strong, in terms of WP:RS, though arguably the legal sources are stronger. No books of Google Books' 59 000 references to Scorsese mention Charles. I think we can at least conclude that sources are at variance.Span (talk) 00:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The whole argument that his middle names are "Marcantonio Luciano" rests on sources that came after 2007. That means that if this was 2006, we wouldn't be having this conversation. A divorce record from 1972 is pretty definitive, as is a political donation listing. These are the types of primary documents that would actually have accurate information about someone's name. Aside from that, how many genealogists out there have their own Wikipedia page? Gary Boyd Roberts does, and he lists his middle name as "Charles". Who better to know this kind of information than a professional genealogist? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 00:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Luciano" was added to the entry on July 26, 2006 by 205.188.116.132, a known vandal. You can thus find books that list him as "Martin Luciano Scorsese". Marconstiatmao (whatever it is) was added by Francispear on March 12, 2007. Francispear is a man of few edits, but one of them is this one. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 00:32, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting (and, unfortunately, very plausible-sounding) "genesis theory". If true, this kind of mistake would put the books' authors and (arguably more so) the Post and NYT to great shame. But then, why wasn't his full supposed middle name – Charles – put into the [previous version of the] article instead of a mere C.? (Also, if Charles can be sufficiently substantiated, someone please submit a correction to IMDb.) – ὁ οἶστρος (talk) 14:58, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, as long as the Wikipedia article keeps saying Charles, it'll be put into the next couple of books. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 19:14, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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On which films did Martin Scorsese have Final Cut Privilege????????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.113.159.74 (talk) 10:57, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Frequent collaborations

TheLastAmigo deleted quite a few of these and asked if the whole section should be deleted. I don't think so, there are some genuine frequent collaborators, not just the actors either. The table might be overkill and might encourage editors to add people who had only collaborated on a few projects. But how many collaborations makes someone a "Frequent" collaborator? If it's more than 2 then that excludes Jodie Foster and Barbara Hershey. Maybe that section should explicitly say how many collaborations are required to be added to the list – SteveCrook (talk) 03:30, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What does the blocked off area in the "Frequent collaborations" represent? – SteveCrook (talk) 07:04, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Influenced by

This seems to be another list that is growing out of control. How many of these people has Marty actually said have influenced him – the people, not just one of their films? Should it require citations for each person named? – SteveCrook (talk) 03:32, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've put them in alphabetical order. Maybe that will stop so many people changing the list so often – SteveCrook (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Each entry in the "Inlfluenced by" and "Influenced" lists here are subject to the same standard of verifiability as any other fact in Wikipedia. So the problem is: I don't see any way to currently verify these facts. I propose eliminating these lists and re-populating them with as many or as few entries as can be reliably verified. --Ds13 (talk) 17:26, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would support that – SteveCrook (talk) 19:56, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, it's been over a week and I didn't hear any objection to this. As proposed, I have removed the lists. The original text may be found here for reference. I have seeded the "Influences" list with its first two verifiable entries (Satyajit Ray & Roberto Rossellini). For notable, verifiable influences, it should be easy to re-populate this list with existing article references or new ones. --Ds13 (talk) 01:44, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The reference you gave doesn't mention Roberto Rossellini (we must be strict about this) – SteveCrook (talk) 14:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're right. I misread something. A Roberto Rossellini should be relatively easy for someone to find. Thanks for removing that. --Ds13 (talk) 16:03, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I propose that Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro be merged into Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro. I think that the content in the Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro article discussing that relationship specifically can be merged into the pages discussing those individuals generally, and the latter articles are of a reasonable size in which the merging of the former will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. 98.239.179.93 (talk) 01:12, 21 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NO. The Martin Scorsese and Robert De Niro article shouldn't be merged with anything. It should just be deleted. It doesn't add anything that isn't already said in the individual articles for the people & the films they made together and nothing else links to it – SteveCrook (talk) 00:06, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why the focus on actors?

Why does this focus so much on actors? (sections Frequent collaborations & Actors' awarded performances) It isn't just the actors and the director who make a film. What about all the other people who Scorsese regularly worked (& works) with? – SteveCrook (talk) 23:00, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mind the hyperbole

From the Raging Bull section: Raging Bull, filmed in high contrast black and white, is where Scorsese's style reached its zenith: From the Goodfellas section: many view Goodfellas as a Scorsese archetype – the apogee of his cinematic technique.

Zenith and apogee refer to two different orbital phenomena, I admit but perhaps it is best to choose one. How about referencing these as high points or starting and ending phases to his career. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.201.152.7 (talk) 00:07, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Frequent collaborations (again)

First, this section should be retitled "frequent collaborators," it does not require a chart, and it should only list those who have worked with Scorcese in sizable and notable roles in at least three films. So, all those who have worked with him only twice, like Alec Baldwin, should be removed. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 00:54, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree that twice is not "frequent". Any director with a filmography the size of Scorcese's is likely, intentionally or not, to work twice with the same actor – that doesn't make them "frequent collaborators". Nor does it mean that Scorcese is the one who actually cast that actor in each of those two films. This chart is too much of a WP:COATRACK to actually have any useful meaning or data. it would need to be trimmed to be encyclopedic or useful, in my opinion. Softlavender (talk) 08:43, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

organization of the career/movies by decade

Why are some movies in bold and others are not, like Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, which is well-regarded and got an Oscar? Also, why are these two movies combined on one line in bold: New York, New York and The Last Waltz? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.23.56.159 (talk) 22:51, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

edit request

In 2008, Scorsese was invited to serve as a mentor for the Rolex Mentor and Protégé Arts Initiative, an international philanthropic programme that pairs masters in their disciplines with emerging talents for a year of one-to-one creative exchange. Out of a very gifted field of candidates, Scorsese chose Argentinian film director Celina Murga as his protégée.[1] RMP2014 (talk) 16:03, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Without substantial coverage of Scorsese's participation in independent reliable sources, I have some qualms about whether this kind of information, if sourced only to a press release or sponsor website, is significant enough to belong in the article about Scorsese (or any of the other mentors for whom similar edits have recently been requested [1]). At first blush it all sounds a bit promotional, but our article for Rolex Mentor and Protégé Arts Initiative does include some substantial reliable source coverage of the program (with the Telegraph calling it "one of the world’s most extraordinary arts programmes"), so participation in the program may be a legitimate indicator of notability for the "protégés". (I note that this program is mentioned in the Spanish Wikipedia article es:Celina Murga, but that she doesn't yet have an English Wikipedia article).--Arxiloxos (talk • contribs) 16:42, 10 March 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]
Here is an article on the pairing: http://variety.com/2012/film/news/murga-rolls-on-scorsese-exec-produced-river-1118062827/#

RMP2014 (talk) 09:03, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.rolexmentorprotege.com/pairing/2008-2009/martin_scorsese_and_celina_murga

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Actors' awarded performances section

I find this section unnecessary to the article, as it seems to constitute trivia. This article is about Martin Scorsese, and the actor collaborations section is enough. Information about accolades awarded to actors for performances in Scorsese's films does not belong in his biography, and just serve to clutter it up. It is best to just remove it. Any thoughts? Katástasi (κατάσταση) 00:17, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Illeana Douglas

I find it strange that Illeana Douglas links here, but there is zero mention of her in Martin Scorsese. I actually came here for a reminder of her name. I eventually had to feel around in the dark for the film Grace of My Heart (search: 'heart film music matt dillon').

I do understand from browsing the discussions here, that an excessive list of related persons had to be culled from the article. However...

It is not in dispute that Douglas was a romantic companion to Scorsese for several years. Perhaps it is in dispute that such relationships include a unique component of creative osmosis which is rarely recognized as bidirectional, due to sexist notions. [cited!]

From that perspective, a complete omission feels like an intentional erasure of history.

Thoughts? – Crnk Mnky (talk) 13:27, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Brief comment on plagiarized paragraph that I've removed

I have removed a paragraph that was plagiarized from the book Scorsese on Scorsese. As the URL wouldn't fit into the edit summary space, I'm reproducing it here for reference. You have to scroll up a bit (forgive my for not formatting this better). Tigercompanion25 (talk) 15:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This addition was added at [2] which was made on 2006-10-09. Given that the book was published in 2003, it's clear that Tigercompanion25 was correct to remove that paragraph. --Yamla (talk) 16:25, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Why no mention of his support for child rapist Roman Polanski?

Given the celebrity of both men isn't Scorsese's support noteworthy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:802:8002:500:78E7:CAFB:C60A:19AA (talk) 04:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is now a mention of his support for Roman Polanski. However, I've looked into this in the past, and the list of people who support Roman Polanski seems to be forged. If you go to the source article from the Guardian, that links to a French website, which has removed the page with the petition to release Polanski. I suggest someone (not me!) get to the bottom of this, and figure out whether he really supports Polanski, and if so, get a proper source. 2001:1C01:4602:1F00:589A:6958:56B7:F39E (talk) 18:00, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock request

I request to be unblocked from this page, i only wanted to improve this page without doing any acts of vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.17.184.239 (talk) 23:57, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2017

Change "With eight Best Director nominations, he is the most nominated living director and is tied with Billy Wilder for the second most nominations overall." to "With eight Best Director nominations, he is the most nominated living director and is tied with Billy Wilder for the second most nominations overall.

His films Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, The King of Comedy and Goodfellas, are ranked among the greatest films of all time." [1][2] 79.32.187.174 (talk) 21:21, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Declined. We already have 13 mentions of "greatest" in the article, including 6 for "greatest film", we already have "he is widely regarded as one of the most significant and influential filmmakers in cinematic history", and you have not explained why this needs to be in the lead. --Yamla (talk) 21:32, 19 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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  1. ^ "The 500 Greatest Movies of All Time - 6.Goodfellas (1990) 11.Raging Bull (1980) 17.Taxi Driver (1976) 87.The King of Comedy (1983)" Empire Magazine. Retrieved March 19, 2017
  2. ^ "AFI's 100 Greatest American Films of All Time" - 4.Raging Bull (1980) 52.Taxi Driver (1976) 92.Goodfellas (1990)". American Film Institute. Retrieved February 26, 2017

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Change "He has directed works such as" to "He has directed seminal works such as".

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Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2017

Change "Scorsese's other film work includes" to "Scorsese's other notable film work includes". 80.104.83.178 (talk) 21:39, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Frequent collaborators

Per the consensus in the discussion above, I am going to edit the frequent collaborators list to include only those people with whom Scorsese has worked at least three times. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 16:06, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good pruning. Binksternet (talk) 18:51, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 00:07, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Other actors in at least three Scoresese movies:
Diahnne Abbott - Taxi Driver; New York,New York; King of Comedy
Barry Primus - Boxcar Bertha; New York, New York; the Irishman, and
Bill Minkin - King of Comedy; Who's That Knocking at My Door?; Taxi Driver

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Frequent collaborators table

That table should be reversed, so that it is taller than it is wide. It's not very usable in its current configuration, even on a huge monitor. Makes me wonder if there's a tool for automating such a change, since doing it by hand would be tedious.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  12:50, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. It is not very useful in its current form. I also wonder if it doesn't need to be pruned a little more. On the Terry Gilliam article, we removed the chart altogether and went with a simple list – but only after deciding that the number of collaborations had to be at least three. Here, I think at least four would be better. I also think the roles themselves need to be notable, more than a simple cameo. Just a thought. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 14:08, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
All of the collaborators are currently in at least 3 films -- SteveCrook (talk) 15:11, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
There are four films in the table (Kundun, Bringing Out the Dead, Hugo, and Silence) in which none of his "frequent collaborators" appear. I propose they be removed from the table. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 13:11, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Having heard no objection in well over a month, I am removing those four films. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 14:13, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind. Given the ridiculously complicated nature of that chart, I couldn't figure out how to remove those titles without screwing the whole thing up. I suggest the whole thing be ditched and we start from scratch. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 14:39, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


If you keep the current specs here are Other Frequent Collaborators

Other actors in at least three Scoresese movies:

Diahnne Abbott - Taxi Driver; New York,New York; King of Comedy
Barry Primus - Boxcar Bertha; New York, New York; the Irishman, and
Bill Minkin - King of Comedy; Who's That Knocking at My Door?; Taxi Driver

Other actors that have been in at least two: Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, Jake Hoffman, Emily Mortimer, Chuck Low, Stephanie Kurtzuba, Dick Miller108.52.237.79 (talk) 07:44, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Critics' Choice awards

Do you think the Critics' Choice Movie Awards are relevant enough to be added into the Major awards received by Scorsese movies' section? Brayan Jaimes (talk) 13:45, 18 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality/Citizenship

Since Martin Scorsese is a recognized dual citizen of both Italy and USA. I believe it would be incorrect to consider him a "naturalized Italian" because according to Italian nationality law, he was able to inherit the citizenship by jus sanguinis therefore making him an Italian citizen since birth. I could be incorrect on this but naturalization basically means he would have either gotten his citizenship from marriage or from residence (though he got it from the basis of inheritance). In other words, his parents never filed his birth certificate to the nearest Italian consulate due to obvious reasons and so therefore he waited until about a year ago to get his recognition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scarslayer01 (talk • contribs)

That sounds plausible, but we aren't permitted to apply our own original research here. So, you need to find a reliable citation making this specific claim. --Yamla (talk) 23:45, 26 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Those sources don't claim he is a naturalized citizen anyway, he is simply a dual citizen and should be written as such. Or write American-Italian Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 00:24, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Broken table

The table under 'Frequent collaborators' is broken or not showing properly. Can someone fix it? MushroomDiamond (talk) 17:32, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Inconsistency in Collaboration

In the Section above the chart it lists some people who have worked with Scorsese multiple times, but these are rated inconsistently. Verna Bloom is listed as three movies, so it must include Street Scenes 1970, but Keitel's work in that was not included in his count of 6 instead of 7. Also what is the second movie Nick Nolte is in other than Cape Fear? If it is New York Stories then Roseanne Arquette needs to be added to the list too. 108.52.237.79 (talk) 08:36, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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