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Changes to Check Point page - Products section

Hi, following a conversation with john of Reading, I would like to suggest edits to the product section of the Check Point Wikipedia page. to begin with, I am declaring i am currently employed by Check Point as the Head of Product marketing. my main intention is to ensure the factual accuracy of the Check Point Portfolio of products. The product section was not updated for a long time and I want to make sure it accurately represents our offering to date (2020) for the update suggested below I am suggesting an objective and neutral language that has no marketing appeal to it, nor it discusses any superlatives or sales bias.

Under network Security add the following: Next Generation Firewall – running GAiA OS, R80.x software [12], Check Point next generation firewalls and software platforms support small businesses (SMB) to large enterprise data center and telco-grade environments. Each security gateway includes next generation firewall, IPS, VPN, WAF, SSL, and Data Security (DLP) as well as threat prevention technologies blocking known and unknown a cyber-attacks. The security gateways are available as a cloud service, software-only products that can run on standard hardware, or dedicated security gateway hardware appliances. [13]

Relevant Citations: [12] https://www.checkpoint.com/products/cyber-security-management/ [13] https://www.checkpoint.com/products/next-generation-firewall/

Many thanks for your consideration of this change Product marketing at Check Point (talk) 12:08, 13 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 14-FEB-2020

🔼  Clarification requested  

  • The proposal cannot be evaluated because many of the described terms are not Wikilinked.[a] To that end, kindly link acronyms and other technical terms with their respective Wikilinks in your proposal.
  • As the proposed text makes claims to these product's functionality and compatibility — and thus, are making claims about the product's inherent value — please provide references from reliable, independent, WP:SECONDARY sources.

Regards,  Spintendo  09:52, 14 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ If the terms appeared earlier on the article's page, then Wikilinks would not normally be needed. However, that guidance is relative: Regardless of whether the terms already exist on the article's page, the terms do not appear previously on this talk page — thus they ought to be Wikilinked.

Reply 19-FEB-2020

Hi Spintendo thanks much for your response. this is highly appreciated as I make my first strides with Wiki editing below is a revised text edits based on your guidelines:

Extended content

Next Generation Firewall – running R80.x software [12], Check Point next generation firewalls and software platforms support small businesses (SMB) to large enterprise data center and telco-grade environments. [1] 

Each security gateway includes next generation firewall, IPS, VPN, WAF, SSL, and Data Security (DLP) as well as threat prevention technologies blocking known and unknown a cyber-attacks. The security gateways are available as a cloud service, software-only products that can run on standard hardware, or dedicated security gateway hardware appliances. [2]


The Gartner Magic Quadrant should cover the claims on support for SMB, data center and Telco grade environments. it also supports the last claim on availability on cloud and software only

References

  1. ^ Hils, Adam. "Magic Quadrant for Network Firewalls", Gartner, Published: 17 September 2019. ID:G00375686
  2. ^ Hils, Adam. "Magic Quadrant for Network Firewalls", Gartner, Published: 17 September 2019. ID:G00375686

many thanks for your support with this change

User:Rafi.kretchmer (talk) 13:03, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for providing the needed Wikilinks, it is much appreciated. What is also missing is the page number for this reference. Please advise. Regards,  Spintendo  19:57, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Spintendo. the relevant pages in the Gartner magic Quadrant are 5-7

[1] Please let me know if additional information is required Product marketing at Check Point (talk) 07:26, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to Check Point page

I was requested by user:spintendo to add the page number for the Gartner Magic Quadrant reference The relevant pages in the Gartner magic Quadrant are 5-7 below is the full edit request including all citations and links to internal pages

Next Generation Firewall – Running R80.x software [12], Check Point next generation firewalls and software platforms support small businesses (SMB) to large enterprise data center and telco-grade environments. [2] Each security gateway includes next generation firewall, IPS, VPN, WAF, SSL, and Data Security (DLP) as well as threat prevention technologies blocking known and unknown a cyber-attacks. The security gateways are available as a cloud service, software-only products that can run on standard hardware, or dedicated security gateway hardware appliances. [3]

Product marketing at Check Point (talk) 13:59, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Hils, Adam. "Magic Quadrant for Network Firewalls", Gartner, Pages 5-7, Published: 17 September 2019. ID:G00375686
  2. ^ Hils, Adam. "Magic Quadrant for Network Firewalls", Gartner, Pages 5-7, Published: 17 September 2019. ID:G00375686
  3. ^ Hils, Adam. "Magic Quadrant for Network Firewalls", Gartner, Pages 5-7, Published: 17 September 2019. ID:G00375686

Reply 25-FEB-2020

🔼  Clarification requested  

  • The requested prose contains a number within brackets ([12]). This number is not linked to anything on the talk page. Text which is proposed to be added to an article should not contain extraneous numbers, or if it does, these should link to references which are provided on the talk page.
  • The references are duplicates. When one reference is repeated, it should use the |ref name= parameter for its ref tag.
  • There are other items which are not Wikilinked, specifically, the terms large enterprise data center, telco-grade environments and dedicated security gateway hardware appliances. Please advise.

Regards,  Spintendo  11:16, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 25-FEB-2020

🔼  Addressing your request   Here is the revised text

Next Generation Firewall – Running R80.x software, Check Point next generation firewalls and software platforms support small and medium businesses (SMB) to large enterprise data center and carrier-grade environments. [1] Each security gateway includes next generation firewall, IPS, VPN, WAF, SSL, and Data Security (DLP) as well as threat prevention technologies blocking known and unknown cyber-attacks. The security gateways are available as a cloud service, software-only products that can run on standard hardware, or dedicated security gateway hardware appliances.[1] Product marketing at Check Point (talk) 11:54, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed Changes to Product section on Check Point article

Please add this under the product section:


Next Generation Firewall – Running R80.x software, Check Point next generation firewalls and software platforms support small and medium businesses (SMB) to large enterprise data center and carrier-grade environments. [1]

Each security gateway includes next generation firewall, IPS, VPN, WAF, SSL, and Data Security (DLP) as well as threat prevention technologies blocking known and unknown cyber-attacks. The security gateways are available as a cloud service, software-only products that can run on standard hardware, or dedicated security gateway hardware appliances.[1]

References

  1. ^ a b c d Hils, Adam. "Magic Quadrant for Network Firewalls", Gartner, Pages 5-7, Published: 17 September 2019. ID:G00375686

Product marketing at Check Point (talk) 07:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. I recognize that you've been working with Spintendo above on this addition, but I am not comfortable with its inclusion, as it is distinctly promotional in tone and reads like an advertisement. Please consider reading WP:PROMO for more information. –Erakura(talk) 22:50, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

= Inclusion in product section

Hi, I appreciate your comment and sorry you decided to decline what others believe is a valid request. after a long discussion with Spintendo and John of reading we reached a paragraph that is completely not promotional but very descriptive of solution capabilities. there is no mentioning of superlatives or any other form of competitive comparison or advantage. it is pure description with all the relevant links and references provided. i would appreciate it if you could revisit this. if Spintendo found it relevant, than there's a way to accept that. many thanks for your consideration Product marketing at Check Point (talk) 07:08, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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