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I believe you missed one revision with copyrighted content, the one following the one you revdel'd. Can you also revdel that one as well? Thank you! =) —Locke Cole • t • c 04:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done, Good catch. — Diannaa (talk) 11:19, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Olan Montgomery Wiki

Diannaa you have no goddamned right to remove the material you removed from my recently deceased brother's wiki. If you cannot restore it then DELETE IT! - Mike Montgomery Gumaraid (talk) 13:12, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The content you added was copied from another website, and thus was a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Please don't add copyright material to Wikipedia. — Diannaa (talk) 13:13, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The content copied belonged to my dead brother.

Deletion review for Olan Montgomery

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Olan Montgomery. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Gumaraid (talk) 14:19, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Gumaraid[reply]

Deletion review is the wrong place to request a review my removal of violations of the copyright policy, but nevertheless I will add a comment there. — Diannaa (talk) 14:25, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Russell Cook (Musician)

How do I edit the bio on my father's page without having someone protest that the additions are a copyright violation? I obviously have permission to update his wikipedia page. Please advise moving forward so that I can make the edit permanently... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coryscook (talk • contribs) 15:07, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your interest in working on Wikipedia. There are a couple of problems with your submission. You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Wikipedia:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works.
The second problem is conflict of interest. Writing or editing an article about your relative is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page. I have placed some information about conflict of interest on your user talk page.— Diannaa (talk) 15:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Olan Montgomery

Hi Diannaa. I'm working with Gumaraid to try to get the biography of his brother up to snuff. We'd like to request a refund of the copyvio-tainted version of 21:46, 9 April 2020‎. Since restoration of potentially copyvio material on-wiki may be inappropriate, I'd like to ask that you email me the entire text at shoehutch@gmail.com, preferably the wikitext as a Word document attached to an email. I guarantee to you that any new version restoring information from that earlier version will come back copyright clear.

The author is a newcomer to WP and may not have a complete grasp of copyright law or encyclopedic style. He does seem to have his heart in the right place although he was obviously bitterly unhappy about the deletions. We're going to work through things off-wiki line by line.

Thank you very much, I appreciate the favor. —tim /// Carrite (talk) 03:38, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Carrite. Hope you are well and thank you for taking on this task. Most of the content was copied from the subject's webpage and the obituary. Text in the obituary was very likely written by a family member and hence cannot neccessarily be considered an independent source. The email is on its way - please let me know if there's any issues in receiving it or opening the attachment.— Diannaa (talk) 12:05, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It didn't seem to come through for some reason. Please try again or use the alternate account MutantPop@aol.com. The new editor is pretty insistent in working from that particular version. I can't see it since it is revision-deleted. best, —tim /// Carrite (talk) 01:46, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Re-sending now, to both addresses.— Diannaa (talk) 02:21, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like the letter M got dropped from the end of the email address somehow. I hope you get one or both of these! Hopefully fixed! Note to self: Periodically need to clean crumbs from the keyboard. — Diannaa (talk) 02:25, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

at Talk:WikiLeaks#External links. I've joined in but as talk page discussions can't override policy, I'm wondering what is the most appropriate place to discuss this. Perhaps you could join in the discussion and give some advice? Thanks. Doug Weller talk 08:52, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for letting me know about this discussion. However, commenting on matters regarding Wikilinks and/or the US government is not something I am going to do.— Diannaa (talk) 12:20, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, but I was just trying to figure out which board would be the best place for the discussion as I don't think an article talk page is. I don't think that would involved you with the subject. Doug Weller talk 17:48, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I don't have an opinion on that aspect either. If it's about policy, maybe Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)? — Diannaa (talk) 19:55, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't appear that Shaggy151 has learned their lesson even after repeated warnings about posting copyrighted material. Perhaps a block is in order? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:59, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thank you for the alert. — Diannaa (talk) 15:16, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

sockpuppet

This is not the place to report vandals or suspected sockpuppetry. — Diannaa (talk) 16:22, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

Precious
Eight years!

Happy Easter, or: the resurrection of loving-kindness --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your reversal of my edit on History of the Jews in Lebanon

Hi,

You reversed my edit and prevented me from fixing whatever problem it had eventhough what I actually did was translate a section of https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_de_los_jud%C3%ADos_en_el_L%C3%ADbano and added the respective sources this article in Spanish has and not copy content from the https://blueberrypie.typepad.com/peach_cobbler/2010/06/1948-to-present.html as you say. Before you totally erase my edit and prevent me from changing anything you could have reached out in my talk page to discuss.

Accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence is considered a personal attack as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks#What_is_considered_to_be_a_personal_attack? and I will be reporting you on this. Im actually quite tired of the way you have handled some of my edits in the past and keep doing so. I feel bullied and wiki hounded by you in all honesty as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harassment#Hounding

Are these speedy deletions that you are doing going through a discussion as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process? If yes, can you please show it to me?. If not, I will be including this in my report on you about this as well.Chris O' Hare (talk) 13:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Chris O' Hare. Here is a link to the bot report. I looked and looked and could not find any evidence that this passage was copied from Wikipedia. So I had to assume that the material was copied from the website that the bot found. You can help me in the future by saying in your edit summary where you got the content when you copy from one Wikipedia article to another or translate material from another-language Wikipedia. In fact doing so is required under the terms of our license. Please have a look at this edit summary as an example of how it is done. Copying without doing this is a violation of our licensing terms. I have checked the Samish wikipedia page and find the material to be a match like you say. Sorry for the mistake.
The reason you keep seeing me on your talk page is because the bot keeps finding material in your edits that appears to be copied from elsewhere online. I am one of a handful of people that assesses these daily reports and am the person who does the bulk of them. To do so is not harassment.— Diannaa (talk) 14:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Yes I agree I should have mentioned in the edit summary this was a translation from the Spanish wikipedia. This is why as I said perhaps its a good idea to discuss first on the talk page before making a speedy deletion like this. I dont know why you automatically assumed the material was copied from that website since you could see that I added about 6 sources to my edit. Assumptions are not the way to deal with deletions of edits. When unsure or in doubt or when sources have been added such as in this case its better to discuss first. Thanks.Chris O' Hare (talk) 14:30, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In an ideal world that is what would happen. But copyright issues are a serious problem with legal considerations, and must be dealt with promptly. It's not an occasional problem: there's anywhere from 75 to 100 potential violations to be assessed each day. This represents anywhere from eight to 20 hours of work. Since there's only a very small group of people working on copyright cleanup, discussion of each individual violation is not practical.— Diannaa (talk) 14:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you, for fixing our page 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Colorado. Have a great week. I hope this is the right place to put this. GunnisonMarmot (talk) 18:54, 13 April 2020 (UTC) Hi Dianna, A lot of what you removed under copyright was not added by me. I thought I was protecting copyright by adding the source on the meatpacking story; the howling story was added by another wiki editor. Thank you for fixing our page, and I will figure out what exactly you thought I did wrong. Thanks again.GunnisonMarmot (talk) 22:42, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's not okay to copy prose unaltered from your sources. Short properly attributed quotations are allowed.— Diannaa (talk) 22:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Userspace copyvios

Hi Dianna, what is the policy on copyrighted text in userspace? See User:Hurjet/sandbox, which copies from www.tusas.com/en/product/hurjet. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:50, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright material is not allowed in userspace. Thanks for the report. — Diannaa (talk) 20:07, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's what I thought, but I wasn't certain. I was off Wikipedia for about 6 months, and have forgotten a lot of things I used to know. :) - BilCat (talk) 20:10, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Well welcome back. :) — Diannaa (talk) 20:11, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some baklava for you!

Hi Dianaa, thanks for your message re me adding the quote on the Wellington Page. I'm new on here. So learning on a steep curve...! I thought that with a Ref I had done enough. WIll check what you have added, and learn. Thanks Arjanvanderboon (talk) 21:51, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Visa policy maps on Wikipedia

Hi! Just wondering how Wikipedia’s visa policy maps are created? I would love to help improve a page (South Korea’s visa policy) as the map on that is now outdated! Thanks. Ire96 (talk) 22:28, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The map is on the Commons, File:Visa policy of South Korea.png. You might consider one of the people who has recently uploaded a new version of the map.— Diannaa (talk) 22:39, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Dianna. Regarding the issue you brought up on my talk page, firstly, I would like to apologize for making you or may be "your bot" work on my texts once again. Never meant to do this, sorry. But to make things clear once and for all, I would like to ask handful of questions in a New York minute:

  • 1. In an ideal world, to what extent should a "mortal" editor reformulate third-party information he/she intends to add to Wikipedia's articles?
  • 2. How does it work with a translated material?
  • 3. Where can the content hastily removed because of the copyright stuff be retreated if a couch potato decides to properly restructure it?

I had couple of more questions, but sorry I have to bail. Mind if I take a rain check on this? Thank you in advance.— Visioncurve (talk) 13:09, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Content has to be written in your own words and not include any wording from the source material. You are correct: " the whole structure and phrasing of the information need to be thouroughly reformulated".
  2. A translation of a copyright document (including a Google translate) enjoys the same copyright protection as the original.
  3. By "retreated" I presume you meant "retrieved"? Here is a link to the bot report for Turkmen tribes. Click on the iThenticate link to view what the bot found. Interpreting results often requires a certain amount of finesse and hunting within the source document for documents that Earwig's tool cannot access.— Diannaa (talk) 13:20, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah right. I appreciate your suggestion on how to retrieve the content removed for the above reasons, but frankly, that hyped Ithenticate tool made my day (in a negative sense, of course). Therefore, I have a suggestion to make it a better shot. You guys might consider giving editors who you think have violated your sacred copyright rules, a second chance by moving parts of the content you believe are not in line with copyright guidelines, to some sort of a draftspace within Wikipedia so that they could later work on paraphrasing and restructuring the corresponding information within the established (by you) time frame. There can be unpleasant consequences, but sometimes it's the only way to get something important done.
After all, we are people for a reason). And I think it's up to you (admins) to improve Wikipedia as you are surely heard and noticed out there. Have a nice day!. — Visioncurve (talk) 04:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Copyright content is not allowed anywhere on Wikipedia, not even in sandboxes or drafts. — Diannaa (talk) 10:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio on Central Talent Booking

Just undone an edit on Central Talent Booking taken from here, could you possibly revdel it as it is copyvio. Thanks. Tknifton (talk) 15:54, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Someone already did so - thanks for the report. — Diannaa (talk) 19:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution

Hello Diannaa, Regarding your message on my talk page, I did not move any text from North Richland Hills, Texas to Richland Hills, Texas, but I did use the format of the Government section in North Richland Hills to create one similar in Richland Hills. The text in Richland Hills is unique to that article, and does not duplicate anything located in North Richland Hills. Please advise if using a duplicate format is allowed. Thank you. PhillyHarold (talk) 18:23, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for asking this, Harold. I also have a similar question regarding copying templates such as navboxes, but replacing all the actual content, except perhaps for heading, section titles, etc. - BilCat (talk) 19:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi PhillyHarold, BilCat: When using an article, template, or any other content as a basis for your own addition to a different article, you should say so in your edit summary please. PhillyHarold, your edit was similar enough to the source article for a bot to have noticed the similarity, so it's not all that unique as you might think.— Diannaa (talk) 19:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Diannaa, Thank you for the response and the clarification. I've deleted the government section from Richland Hills, Texas and will start from scratch. PhillyHarold (talk) 23:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You don't have to do that unless you want to. It's okay to copy/adapt from other Wikipedia articles as long as you say in your edit summary where you got the content.— Diannaa (talk) 00:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright issue - request for review

Hello, Diannaa! Thank you for your great work on Wikipedia and helping to uphold the project's integrity. The pandemic has brought me to reading Wikipedia a lot in the last few weeks. Recently I've been looking at some entries at Wikipedia:Copyright problems and noticed several improper taggings of copyright violation on pages that have no such issue. Upon looking further, I realized the user tagging is an experienced user who is also an admin (MER-C).

Most of these pages have no copyright issues. For example, Anders (DJ) is a stub with nothing copied directly from any source and Head over Heels (Chromeo album) has one quoted paragraph that complies with Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing#Quotation of non-free text but they were both tagged as copyright violations and are awaiting procedural deletion after seven days since the nomination. These have already been deleted and I believe they may be false positives. I did not discuss directly with them because I anticipated stonewalling, natural reaction of self-protecting and possible foul play.

You are one of the most active administrators in handling copyright issues so I am hoping you'd be willing to spare a few minutes in reviewing this. Could you please take a look at those pages to see if they actually have issues that warrant deletion? Much appreciated. Thanks! Potatoesandbiscuits (talk) 06:09, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These are presumptive deletions, as is permitted per the rules at WP:CCI. No reason to suspect foul play.— Diannaa (talk) 10:05, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Thank you for all your work! Potatoesandbiscuits (talk) 06:10, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Diannaa,

Hope you are well and keeping safe. I have sent you an email with this request, before I realised that this is how it's supposed to be done. Apologies.

I am the Global Director of Marketing for CPL Aromas based in Dubai. I made some edits on its Wiki page (CPL Aromas) updating its history and changing some out-of-date info, and today I got all of it reversed on the grounds of copyright. The only texts I copied were from our own company's website (for the History section) so I believe there is no ground for copyright infringement?

Could you please review?

Many thanks! Alejandro.-

Thank you for your interest in working on Wikipedia. There are a couple of problems with your submission. You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Wikipedia:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works.
The second problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organisation or that of a client is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page. I have placed some information about conflict of interest on your user talk page. — Diannaa (talk) 11:42, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rock music

Hi, I assure you that there wasn't any violation in copyright policy in my edit in Rock music. My procedures for editing, in all the language versions of Wikipedia, don't include copypasting, and I always comply with the procedures of writing non-copyrighted text and using references.--Diablo del Oeste (talk) 13:30, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the content was a match for prose found at https://qz.com/660141/yes-music-sales-are-growing-again-but-they-are-still-half-of-what-they-were-in-1999/. Your addition was flagged by a bot as a potential copyright issue and was assessed by myself. Here is a link to the bot report. Click on the iThenticate link to view what the bot found. Your addition was removed by other people for reasons other than copyright.— Diannaa (talk) 13:38, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That must be because of the two arguments about the Youtube model at the end of that article, but then again, I wrote them in reported speech, they weren't copy pastes.--Diablo del Oeste (talk) 14:45, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Desairology: Funeral Cosmetology

This article not only has a poor title, it seems written more like an advert. Also, it's not just hair and nails that morticians do, its makeup, especially for female decedents. PAustin4thApril1980 (talk) 13:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear what you think I should do about it. Or are you looking for suggestions as to what you should do?— Diannaa (talk) 13:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Diannaa, i think the article needs a new title and a re-write, but i wouldn't know where to begin. PAustin4thApril1980 (talk) 13:46, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The article says the word "Desairology" was coined in 1980. There's a few places online where I see the term in use. So that might be a good title. Cleanup would involve finding sources for or removing any unsourced content. Another alternative would be to copy any sourced content to the article Funeral director and change this article to a redirect. If you need guidance on how to move a page or how to provide attribution when copying content please let me know and I will locate the appropriate help pages for you.— Diannaa (talk) 14:02, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification

I would prefer if I could could see exactly what you were referring to on my talk page but I cannot view what you removed from the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Syrian Arab Republic page. I did notice many of the block quotations have been removed. They did not have direct quotation marks because the manual of style says "[d]o not enclose block quotations in quotation marks". Can you please clarify why the content was removed? It would also be helpful and appreciated if you could provide all the articles that were referenced in the content that was removed. CowHouse (talk) 14:43, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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