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Formal tone

I flagged the synopsis for formal tone (easy target: the second paragraph contains 470 words). This section is a solid contribution and I'd like the thank the original contributor. Nevertheless, it would presently benefit from a less scholarly tone. — MaxEnt 17:05, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Need for quotebox with definition at top?

What say we simply incorporate the two definitions into the actual text? Any objections...? Cleopatran Apocalypse (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is the Vatican a theocracy?

I'm not sure that the Vatican is a theocracy. In particular, in my Google Translate translation of the 2019 International Theological Commission's "Religious Freedom for the Good of All", there is implicit disapproval of "state theocracy" (which appears to equate to just plain theocracy as described in this article) (see par. 61). The relevant paragraph appears to label certain Islamic extremist points of view. as unfortunately tending towards the advocacy of state theocracies.

It is true that the Pope receives divine guidance for the management of the daily affairs of government. However, I don't think it is true that a deity is recognised as the supreme ruling authority of the State, i. e. the government's "voice" is not considered the "voice of God".

The Church strongly teaches (in official and universal teaching), that there ought to be a separation between the spiritual sphere (with which religion is mostly concerned), and the temporal sphere (with which the civil government is mostly concerned). There are links between the spheres, but the two spheres are independent from each other, and each autonomous.

This appears still to apply to the Vatican City State, even though the Pope is both the head of State, and the visible head of the Church. Whilst the infallible body of Church doctrine is considered to be the "voice of God", not only is the fallible body of doctrine not considered to be the "voice of God", the concrete application of moral principles in the creation of temporal laws of the Vatican for the most part is not considered to create laws that are the "voice of God".

Open to other people's opinions on this. But I do suspect that it's a popular misconception, sometimes even something of a jibe, that the Vatican is a theocracy. It's perhaps closer to a monarchy, but more like a constitutional monarchy. But even then, there are very significant democratic elements in the election of new popes.

MarkJFernandes (talk) 06:07, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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