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== Categories ==
==Categories==

Note that {{cl|Film actresses}} and {{cl|Television actresses}} are both '''container-only''' categories, meaning that they're ''only'' allowed to contain ''subcategories'', and are not allowed to directly contain any actresses at all. There is ''never'' an acceptable argument for decontainerizing any actress out of a subcategory and back into the container — if you dispute the nationality of an actress, your choices are either (a) find the correct other nationality and ''laterally'' move her from Country-X film/television actresses to Country-Y film/television actresses, or (b) suck it up and move on — your options ''do not'' include unsubbing her back up into the nationally-undifferentiated container category, because the container category is ''not allowed to have articles in it''. There is absolutely no acceptable argument to the contrary, and I will brook no clapback on that. Get her out of the container categories, and into an appropriate national subcategory, ''immediately''. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 22:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Note that {{cl|Film actresses}} and {{cl|Television actresses}} are both '''container-only''' categories, meaning that they're ''only'' allowed to contain ''subcategories'', and are not allowed to directly contain any actresses at all. There is ''never'' an acceptable argument for decontainerizing any actress out of a subcategory and back into the container — if you dispute the nationality of an actress, your choices are either (a) find the correct other nationality and ''laterally'' move her from Country-X film/television actresses to Country-Y film/television actresses, or (b) suck it up and move on — your options ''do not'' include unsubbing her back up into the nationally-undifferentiated container category, because the container category is ''not allowed to have articles in it''. There is absolutely no acceptable argument to the contrary, and I will brook no clapback on that. Get her out of the container categories, and into an appropriate national subcategory, ''immediately''. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 22:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
: I'm largely unconcerned with the rules of [[:Category:film actresses]] and [[:Category:television actresses]], but [[WP:CATV|without additional sources, there aren't any subcategories which apply]]. If you would rather we remove those categories whole-cloth, I don't really object. Let me know!<!-- this was originally a post-script to my post below, but we edit-conflicted, so I pulled it out as a reply --> — '''[[user:fourthords|<templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#CC0000">Fourthords</span>]] &#124; [[user talk:fourthords|=Λ=]] &#124;''' 22:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

==April 2024 tagging==
The tag, {{template link|more citations needed}}, was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eve_Harlow&diff=prev&oldid=1220941315 added to this article on 26 April 2024 at 21:31 UTC], but everything in the article is cited, and no explanation was given. Does anybody know what unsourced material is in the article to which that tag is referring?

The tag, {{template link|unreliable sources}}, was also [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eve_Harlow&diff=next&oldid=1220941803 added to this article on 26 April 2024 at 21:38 UTC]. There was no explanation for which source(s) are suggested to be unreliable, including the [[Gemini Awards]], the [[Leo Awards]], the [[National Screen Institute]], the ''[[Toronto Star]]'', [[United Press International]], and especially [[WP:RSP#Digital Spy|Digital Spy]], [[WP:RSP#Rotten Tomatoes|Rotten Tomatoes]], [[WP:RSP#Screen Rant|''Screen Rant'']], and [[WP:RSP#TV Guide|''TV Guide'']]. I suppose the lone citation to ''TV Fanatic'' could be the culprit for the tagging, but I'd've thought it would be addressed specifically and not with a page-wide tagging (and I, as well as [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 260#TV_Fanatic|this noticeboard discussion]] find its interview sufficiently reliable to simply source that this actress played a character in the seasons noted).

If anybody else here has ideas, I'd like to resolve the current state of tagging ambiguity. Thanks, all, — '''[[user:fourthords|<templatestyles src="Template:Color/styles.css" /><span class="tmp-color" style="color:#CC0000">Fourthords</span>]] &#124; [[user talk:fourthords|=Λ=]] &#124;''' 22:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

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Categories

Note that Category:Film actresses and Category:Television actresses are both container-only categories, meaning that they're only allowed to contain subcategories, and are not allowed to directly contain any actresses at all. There is never an acceptable argument for decontainerizing any actress out of a subcategory and back into the container — if you dispute the nationality of an actress, your choices are either (a) find the correct other nationality and laterally move her from Country-X film/television actresses to Country-Y film/television actresses, or (b) suck it up and move on — your options do not include unsubbing her back up into the nationally-undifferentiated container category, because the container category is not allowed to have articles in it. There is absolutely no acceptable argument to the contrary, and I will brook no clapback on that. Get her out of the container categories, and into an appropriate national subcategory, immediately. Bearcat (talk) 22:01, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm largely unconcerned with the rules of Category:film actresses and Category:television actresses, but without additional sources, there aren't any subcategories which apply. If you would rather we remove those categories whole-cloth, I don't really object. Let me know! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 22:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

April 2024 tagging

The tag, {{more citations needed}}, was added to this article on 26 April 2024 at 21:31 UTC, but everything in the article is cited, and no explanation was given. Does anybody know what unsourced material is in the article to which that tag is referring?

The tag, {{unreliable sources}}, was also added to this article on 26 April 2024 at 21:38 UTC. There was no explanation for which source(s) are suggested to be unreliable, including the Gemini Awards, the Leo Awards, the National Screen Institute, the Toronto Star, United Press International, and especially Digital Spy, Rotten Tomatoes, Screen Rant, and TV Guide. I suppose the lone citation to TV Fanatic could be the culprit for the tagging, but I'd've thought it would be addressed specifically and not with a page-wide tagging (and I, as well as this noticeboard discussion find its interview sufficiently reliable to simply source that this actress played a character in the seasons noted).

If anybody else here has ideas, I'd like to resolve the current state of tagging ambiguity. Thanks, all, — Fourthords | =Λ= | 22:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]