Talk:Nazi salute

"In 1926, the Heil Hitler salute was made compulsory." Please fact check this, as the NSDAP only won the election in 1933.

"In 1926, the Heil Hitler salute was made compulsory." Please fact check this, as the NSDAP only won the election in 1933. 2001:16B8:2D09:C500:3068:7C12:2C67:1336 (talk) 19:19, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

The source needs to be reviewed to confirm, but the sentence probably needs "for party members" added. Acroterion (talk) 19:23, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

The OP's facts are wrong in any event. The NSDAP never won a free election. Hitler was appointed Chancellor by President von Hindenburg at the urging of nationalist conservatives. At no time before Hitler seized control did the NSDAP have a majority in the Reichstag; if they had, they would have elected Hitler as Chancellor. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:28, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

I checked the source, it did indeed refer to being compulsory within the party. I've adjusted the text. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:32, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Ku Klux Klan

KKK groups in the United States often use a similar salute with the left arm.Pbrower2a (talk) 20:45, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

If true, you would need a citation from a reliable source to add it to the article. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:55, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Here's a link to an image from CBS News:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-kkk-today/20/

Fingers are not held together as in the Nazi salute, but the left arm is at nearly at a 45-degree angle as was the Nazi salute. This is CBS News, and the only reason that I do not show the image (a link is shown) is that such might violate a copyright held by CBS, Incorporated.

Next comes a barbarous distortion of the US flag (OK, my use of the word "barbarous" is not NPOV) that melds elements of "Old Glory" (the white stars on a blue field and the red-and-white stripes) with a Nazi swastika.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-kkk-today/21/

It's hard to be NPOV when discussing any fascistic cause. It is safe to assume that most people despise Nazis and the KKK, but people chose to display that banner. Note well that the Klan and Nazis had similar objects of hatred in the 1920's and 1930's. Back then the similarities of a salute may have been coincidence, but a stiff-arm salute with one arm (unless it has the Communist "clenched fist") now generally suggests the extreme Right.

I would suppose that CBS News is a reliable source.Pbrower2a (talk) 00:11, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

CBS is certain a reliable source, but, unfortunately, an image is not the best form of sourcing in the world, as compared to words, and this image is a bit problematic when you consider that all three people have their fingers splayed -- unlike in the Hitler salute , where the fingers are held tightly together, with only thumb, perhaps, splayed -- so it looks very much like they're showing the number four, as a football team would when indicating that they're going to win the game in the fourth quarter. That's probably not the case, but it's not a slam-dunk that the gesture is a Nazi salute.

I think what we need is for a reliable source to say -- in words (and it could be a caption to a photo) that the Klan sometimes uses a version of the Nazi salute, or that these Kan members are using a version of the Nazi salute, or quotes a Klan member as saying "we're proud that we based out salute on Hitler's", or something on that order.

I'm not trying to put obstacles in your way, if this is occurring I'd want it to be in the article, but we do have to do so while following Wikipedia policies. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:59, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Here is an explanation by a source (the Anti-Defamation League) hostile to the KKK.

"From its beginnings in the 1860s, the Ku Klux Klan has employed a variety of salutes and hand signs both public and private. Most of the hand signs and gestures used by the first and second Ku Klux Klans have fallen by the wayside over the years, except for the Klan salute, which dates back to 1915. It resembles a Nazi salute (which some Klan members will also use), except that it is performed with the left arm. Often Klan members will separate the fingers of their hand when making the salute (to represent the 4 K's of Knights of the Ku Klux Klan)".https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/ku-klux-klan-hand-sign

This is a possible explanation of why the fingers are not together as in the Nazi salute shown in the picture. Pbrower2a (talk) 11:01, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Good catch! I've added this information to the article. Beyond My Ken (talk) 13:13, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Holy?

Wikipedia doesn’t explain what the word “heil” means, Is it “holy” in German? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.192.38.184 (talk) 00:04, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

It means "Hail" in German, as in "Hail Caesar!", which is explained in the third sentence of the article. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:11, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

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Legality in Poland

Statement that the Nazi salute is a criminal offence in Poland not accurate. From what I see the given source doesn't even mention Poland. In reality there is no law in Poland about the Nazi salute itself. It's a criminal offence to "publically propagate fascist or other totalitarian form of government" (Article 256 of Polish Penal Code).Monsieur empereur (talk) 20:43, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

"Sieg Heil!" ('Hail victory!')

See also: Talk:Nazi_salute/Archive_3 § %22Heil%22

The German "Heil" does not carry the same connotations of the English "hail". Whereas "hail" is most commonly used as a greeting or a salute, "Heil" translates more accurately as "salvation" or "good health". A more accurate translation therefore is "Victory brings salvation" or "Victory is salvation". https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sieg_Heil JMGN (talk) 23:59, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

English "Hail" also means "good health", as in "hail and hearty". In any case, to make a change of this sort you would need a citations from a reliable source. !Beyond My Ken (talk)

What did Hitler say when saluting? ("Heil Hitler" or something else?)

See also: q:To Be or Not to Be (1983 film) § Dialogue

Apokrif (talk) 20:45, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

no redirect for houthis

There is no redirect to the Houthis wiki page when it mentions them doing the salute. I've only recently used Wikipedia as anything more than an encyclopedia, so excuse me if I am misusing the talk page or something.

Edit: Just did something about it, not really sure what is going to happen now, but here we go. CeasefireNow (talk) 02:07, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

"Heil mein Führer!" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Heil mein Führer! has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 17 § Heil mein Führer! until a consensus is reached. Deauthorized. ^(talk) 16:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC)