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Delete "King Richard I of England is present in a scene in the film about Joachim of Fiore "Joachim and the Apocalypse" by Jordan River. Playing Richard the Lionheart is the American actor Nikolay Moss.[167]" the final sentence of the legacy section of the article. It is not relevant to the article and bizarre given the numerous more famous media adaptions of Richard the Lionheart not mentioned. Matthew0517 (talk) 13:22, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Celia Homeford (talk) 07:06, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 February 2024

It has been proposed in this section that Richard I of England be renamed and moved to Richard the Lionheart.

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Richard I of England → Richard the Lionheart – Per WP:SOVEREIGN and WP:COMMONNAME. "Use the most common, unambiguous name: Carl XVI Gustaf, Elizabeth II, Alfonso XII, Louis XIV, William the Conqueror, John Balliol, Mary, Queen of Scots, Eric of Pomerania, Charlemagne. This is in line with WP:COMMONNAME." Richard the Lionheart is clearly the most commonly used name for this monarch. UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 17:45, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose strongly 1) Because his regnal number places him accurately and unambiguously in the chronology of English monarchs. 2) The name 'Coeur de Leon' has more or less equal usage as 'Lionheart', even in English language sources. Urselius (talk) 19:42, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There was an unsuccessful requested move back in 2008 and we should not keep chopping and changing. Also, quick google search suggests that Richard I is more common. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:34, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Google gives his name as "Richard the Lionheart", not "Richard I". UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 21:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Google is not RS. Srnec (talk) 22:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I know that, but OP said that a "quick google search" "suggests that Richard I is more common" I was pointing out that wasn't true. UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 22:15, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Richard I" gets over 6,100,000 hits on google compared with 810,000 for "Richard the Lionheart", so it is more common. Dudley Miles (talk) 23:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with any nickname in this case is that there isn't a definitive one. He used to be "the Lion-hearted" before he was "(the) Lionheart" and some prefer the French Coeur de Lion (which was once the norm). See this ngram. "Richard I" is steady, but the preferred form of the nickname varies. The prominence of "the Lionheart" is a comparatively recent phenomenon. Srnec (talk) 22:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for the same reason we don't use Henry Curtmantle, John Lackland, etc. Redirects work perfectly fine. Adam Bishop (talk) 01:42, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 *::::"Richard I" gets over 6,100,000 hits on google compared with 810,000 for "Richard the Lionheart", so it is more common. [[User:Dudley Miles|Dudley Miles]] ([[User talk:Dudley Miles|talk]]) 23:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 *The problem with any nickname in this case is that there isn't a definitive one. He used to be "the Lion-hearted" before he was "(the) Lionheart" and some prefer the French Coeur de Lion (which was once the norm). See [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Richard+Coeur+de+Lion%2CRichard+the+Lionheart%2CRichard+I%2CRichard+Lionheart%2CRichard+the+Lion-hearted&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3&case_insensitive=true this ngram]. "Richard I" is steady, but the preferred form of the nickname varies. The prominence of "the Lionheart" is a comparatively recent phenomenon. [[User:Srnec|Srnec]] ([[User talk:Srnec|talk]]) 22:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
-*'''Oppose''' for the same reason we don't use [[Henry Courtmantle]], [[John Lackland]], etc. Redirects work perfectly fine. [[User:Adam Bishop|Adam Bishop]] ([[User talk:Adam Bishop|talk]]) 01:42, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose''' for the same reason we don't use [[Henry Curtmantle]], [[John Lackland]], etc. Redirects work perfectly fine. [[User:Adam Bishop|Adam Bishop]] ([[User talk:Adam Bishop|talk]]) 01:42, 25 February 2024 (UTC)