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Jumping to conclusions

Your rude hot headed commentary at the ARBCOM talk page indicates why your long break would have been better if it was permanent. Pedro : Chat 22:17, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pedro, the only thing he said is let's not jump to conclusions. [1] SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 00:46, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well unless Chase can't use indents, that comment was aimed at me and I have jumped to no conclusions at all - indeed I challenge you to provide the diff where I have or keep silent. Why Chase assumes I have done is indeed rude I'm afraid. Pedro : Chat 07:41, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was a reply to Cube lurker, I think? Right below Cube lurker's post, indented one more than his. Amalthea 09:01, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly looks that way to me. CubeLurker used three indents, Chase me used four. I'm sure if he'd been intending his words as a reply to Pedro he'd have used one indent. but in the context I think we should assume that he meant them to be interpreted in accordance with his indentation. A prefectly reasonable reply to Cube lurker rather than what would have been a an odd reply to Pedro. PS welcome back Chaseme, sorry to see your comment was misread. Ϣere SpielChequers 10:23, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was, indeed, a reply to CubeLurker. Nevertheless, given the circumstances, Pedro's message was kindof understandable - we're all a little jumpy here, given the leak. A load of my personal details were leaked, as well as my fiancées. I just don't want everyone to start leaping at each others throats over this. The Cavalry (Message me) 16:12, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well I apologise as I misinterpreted it. I'm also angered that you too have had personal information leaked - a singularly sorry saga. Best wishes to you and yours. Pedro : Chat 18:45, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And all the best to yourself - rest assured we're (ArbCom and WMF) working overtime to solve this. It would be an understatement to say that I do not particularly like the leaker at present, and can think of a few four-letter words I'd like to throw in his direction. The Cavalry (Message me) 19:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to extend the editing restrictions placed on User:Communicat

Hello, I have proposed that ArbCom extend the editing restrictions which it placed on Communicat (talk · contribs) at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification#Motion to extend editing restrictions on Communicat/Communikat and would appreciate your views on this. Thank you Nick-D (talk) 11:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for resolving that ugly incident

Big thanks, Cml,ItC. --Shirt58 (talk) 11:12, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Completely new abortion proposal and mediation

In light of the seemingly endless disputes over their respective titles, a neutral mediator has crafted a proposal to rename the two major abortion articles (pro-life/anti-abortion movement, and pro-choice/abortion rights movement) to completely new names. The idea, which is located here, is currently open for opinions. As you have been a contributor in the past to at least one of the articles, your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.

The hope is that, if a consensus can be reached on the article titles, the energy that has been spent debating the titles of the articles here and here can be better spent giving both articles some much needed improvement to their content. Please take some time to read the proposal and weigh in on the matter. Even if your opinion is simple indifference, that opinion would be valuable to have posted.

To avoid accusations that this posting violates WP:CANVASS, this posting is being made to every non-anon editor who has edited either page since 1 July 2010, irrespective of possible previous participation at the mediation page. HuskyHuskie (talk) 20:01, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the deletion of Buysellads

I had tried talking user Panyd about the deletion of my article who instructed me to contact you and user "WereSpielChequers". Hope you can help me. The following is the abstract of wot i had sent to her.Please guide me.

Thank You.

Hi Panyd,

This is regarding the page that you deleted yesterday asking me to not publish the same article after it got deleted. With all respect i would like to ask you a few queries. Hope you don't mind :)

I had contested against the speedy deletion as follows

This page should not be speedy deleted because...Previously it was deleted only because of lack of notability. Which i have improved this time by adding references from new york times and yahoo finance. Last time the administrators did not have a problem with the article and was only the case of notability so i have improved on it. Now how fair is it to delete the article saying that it is the same as the previous where notability had been the only issue and which has been rectified. For proof please do see the discussion page of the article which was there previously over here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Buysellads.

The segment over there reads as follows

Weak delete for lack of sufficient independent coverage by reliable sources. The page does list one article from a Reliable Source, the Boston Herald, but notability requires more than one article. --MelanieN (talk) 01:28, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Have added linkages from other wiki articles to counter the status of orphan article even though it is not a criteria for deletion according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Orphan . Also have added two new links to improve the notability. Further feedback will be appreciated. Thank you Venomarv (talk) 19:08, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

You are trying very hard, I'll give you that. But there just may not be enough material out there to cite, no matter how hard you try. You are correct that the article will not be deleted for being an orphan; if it is deleted it will be for lack of substantial coverage by independent reliable sources, as required by Wikipedia's notability requirements. I noticed you have a second reference at the article from a Reliable Source, namely the Wall Street Journal Online, but the article doesn't even mention BuySellAds that I could find, so it doesn't help you. --MelanieN (talk) 21:53, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

So in order to rectify the problem of notability i had to bring in more references to hold the article well if i am not mistaken right? :) Hence i gathered authentic ones from Yahoo finance and also New york times report and included them in the article and corrected a few typos and published it again.

Could you please tell me where i have gone wrong? After working so hard i have built the content for this article and it was rejected the first time around because i needed to have stronger references. And once i got stronger references and put it along, it gets deleted. What am i expected to do here? Am i expected not to repeat the content? Because it was the references and not the content which had the problem last time isn't it? I am finding it very difficult.

Please Advice and Help. Thank you Venomarv (talk) 03:52, 7 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.226.7 (talk)

FYI: Replied at user talk:WereSpielChequers. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:47, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delta motions

Could you please explicitly state on the motions page which motion is your first choice? NW (Talk) 22:33, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The Cavalry (Message me) 17:05, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Morgan Higby Night

Hello Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Morgan Higby Night, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguous advertising (can be cleaned without a fundamental rewrite). Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 22:33, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Herbert Art Gallery and Museum court.jpg

A tag has been placed on File:Herbert Art Gallery and Museum court.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion ({{db-...}}) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Marcus Qwertyus 08:56, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment regarding me

Hello. I read your comment at this RfArb and wanted to take the opportunity to respond to some issues of concern you raised.

First, you took issue with my conduct, but did not outline what conduct of mine you find fault with in particular (except perhaps edit rate, addressed below). Could you please indicate what behavior(s) you find fault with in my editing?
Second, you took issue with me conducting edits where I had an "amazing speed of one edit every two seconds". I would have been happy to have answered this concern of yours had you raised it to me. As I've informed a number of people before (most recently here), the speed of my edits isn't to do with having any tools, script, or bot to do so. The only tools I use for this are my browser (Firefox), my fingers, and my brain. The way in which I do these edits is in assembly line fashion. I find this considerably easier to do. You will note that at any time that I've conducted such a set of edits, there was a considerably time break before them in my editing which is the time period in which I was conducting the work, the last part of which is multiple alt-shift-s followed by (click next tab). As a case point here, it is far faster to do the alt-shift-s than to mouse to the "save page" button, then mouse back up to get to the next tab. Keyboard shortcuts exist to make things easier. I take advantage of them. I've performed more than 5000 of these edits in this manner spanning several years. On the rare occasion that an issue has been raised with regards to the speed, I've explained as I have above.
Third, the reason that I conduct the removals is precisely for what you are asking for; education. For every person working to get the project inline with our NFCC policies and guidelines, there's probably several hundred, possibly more, who do not use NFCC media properly. I've encountered a large number of people who insist that, as you have, we who work for NFCC compliance should fix it instead. Honestly, that is impossible. There must be more people better educated about NFCC compliance and willing to use non-free media appropriately. I conduct the removals. When someone restores an image without properly doing so, I remove it again and leave a copy of User:Hammersoft/10c on their talk page (example). I think this is an important part of the loop to improve understanding of NFCC. So you see, I am trying to educate users and get them to comply with NFCC.

I am happy to receive input and recommendations on how to improve this area. What I'm not happy to receive is hate, derision, and other uncivil behaviors. However, I do understand that people do not like having their work undone, and can get very possessive of it. This can lead to anger, and I am cognizant of that. Case example; I removed a large number of non-free images from an article for failing WP:NFLISTS. I left notes [2][3] on the talk pages of the people who put them there. One of the editors chose not to respond and did not attempt to restore the images. The other took issue with it, and left this on my talk page, and I took the time to patiently explain the issue. If there's something I'm doing wrong here, tell me. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:05, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. I'm a little busy at the moment, so I hope you won't mind if I get a full reply to you tomorrow. The Cavalry (Message me) 20:36, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Antonio La Torre

How do you fix all those edits at once? Do you have to be an admin to do so? carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 15:13, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I used the rollback tool, and clicked rather a lot. I'm happy to switch it on for your account, if you'd like? The Cavalry (Message me) 15:21, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please. Though sometimes I see a rollback option on a page, and if I click it, nothing happens. Maybe I have it and don't know how to use it? carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 15:23, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You definitely don't have it. Maybe that's part of Twinkle, if you have Twinkle switched on? I've switched Rollback on for your account now, so you should see it appearing in 'history' pages. You should, as a rule, only use it for reverting obvious vandalism - see Help:Reverting#Rollback and WP:ROLLBACK for more on how (and when) to use it. Any questions, let me know! The Cavalry (Message me) 15:32, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 15:35, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: COI

Hello, Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry. You have new messages at LiteralKa's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Nothing big, except...

One of your userboxes is saying that you're dating yourself. - Penwhale | ^{dance in the air and follow his steps} 08:22, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's what happens when you copy code without checking it first! Thanks for letting me know :-) The Cavalry (Message me) 12:31, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lol! Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 23:30, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking advise regarding the behavior of certain IPs.

Per Wikipedia:CheckUser, I'm contacting you to ask for advice about what to do with the behavior of certain IPs that appear to be related to a Wikipedia editor. IPs 172.130.15.99, 172.129.146.183, 172.129.26.82, 172.162.199.228 and 172.130.2.208 seem to act only to revert edits, the same ones that user BrendanFrye does. It seems to me that they may be used to avoid the 3-revert rule. Being myself twice dragged into Sockpuppet investigations unjustly, I do not want to open one without justification. So, I would like to know what path should I follow in this case. Are my suspicions founded? If so, what should I do? Jfgslo (talk) 00:22, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can't tell you whether or not they're founded, because to do so would give out the IP of the editor concerned. That said, this looks worrying enough that I'd take it to SPI. The Cavalry (Message me) 00:25, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Per your suggestion, I have opened the SPI case. I really hope that I'm not unjustly accusing him. Thanks for your help. Jfgslo (talk) 01:23, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that bad, and it needs to be done. It happened to me too! The Cavalry (Message me) 01:24, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Don't tell me to talk to you on-wiki and then remove it. LiteralKa (talk) 00:51, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The comment you left isn't one I have any intention of replying to. Myself and Dan Bull's connection, is public knowledge. Jimmy and the Foundation are aware of it too; Dan offered to help in the 2010 fundraising campaign, which I was a part of. I see that you're trying to dig up dirt on me - as you are wont to do - but believe me, all the dirt was already dug up by the good fellows at Wikipedia Review. I suggest you try there and read up on me and my history. They've got my real name, links to TV interviews, all of it. If you're lucky, you might even get a link to the Edwin Black stuff. The Cavalry (Message me) 00:57, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care about any of that. I'm more curious as to why you decided to namedrop an irrelevant small-time musician. LiteralKa (talk) 01:06, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because he's all counter-culture, or something. Like you folks. Hacktivism and that. Thought you might like him. The Cavalry (Message me) 01:09, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Him and every other musician nowadays. LiteralKa (talk) 01:15, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm not professing to be 'down with it'. I just thought it was cool. I'm sorry if I was mistaken. The Cavalry (Message me) 01:22, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RFPP request

Sorry to bother you but theres a report on WP:RFPP regarding Emirates Cup which has been a target for IP vandalism. I'm only asking directly because the vandalism is continuing and I'm close to not being able to fight it anymore under policy so can I ask if you could please issue the protection and revert the IP's vandalism back to my last revision? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 18:52, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm loathe to get in volved in what might seem to some to be a content dispute, but I've semi-protected the page, and reverted back to your version, as the source clearly states "As opposed to previous Emirates Cups, points are no longer awarded for goals scored.". The Cavalry (Message me) 18:59, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

International Organizations per Country templates

Hey there, you said you were gonna help :p -- とある白い猫 ^chi? 00:21, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Re:LiteralKa proposal

I proposed what I did because we appear to be deadlocked on whether not to have an indef block. If you can get the support for the indef block to stick, go right ahead. If not, I'd get on board my suggestion...as I outline on WP:ANI, he's bound to sock or violate his terms eventually, and that'll give you your indef block Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 22:23, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hilarious!

Welcome to Wikipedia, where common sense is an uncommon virtue. You've renamed the Pro-life article something else. The article uses the term "pro-life" at least 114 times. (Have you looked at the article? It's clearly about "Pro-life"). It's like renaming an article titled "French fries", "Chips" because The Times thinks "french fries" is too Franco-centric, even though the French fries article uses the term 114 times and uses "chips" twice. It's one small step for political correctness; one giant leap backward for COMMON SENSE! Saint Jimbo, pray for us. --Kenatipo ^speak! 16:30, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Was this meant as a random outburst of right-wing exasperation, or an attempt to ask me a question about my reasoning when I closed the MEDCAB case? If it was the former, rest assured that I honestly do not care. If this was the latter, and you'd like me to explain my reasoning further, then I suggest you ask me to do so rather than plastering my talk page with nonsense. The Cavalry (Message me) 16:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you honestly expect not to be taken to task for your bad decisions? --Kenatipo ^speak! 18:23, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do expect to be taken to task for my bad decisions. I do not believe that closing that case was a bad decision. I would be interested to know how you intend to 'take me to task', though. The Cavalry (Message me) 18:25, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I read your rationale. The only way you can claim "consensus" is if you decide to completely ignore the arguments (COMMONNAME and Google Search) of editors like me who have had the "bad taste" to declare which side of the political debate they're on. My arguments are valid and per policy. All I would like to hear you explain is how an article about the pro-life movement that uses the term more than 115 times can, by the simple measure of common sense, be called anything else. --Kenatipo ^speak! 20:33, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes. That most convincing of arguments, 'Google Search'. Google searches are notoriously unreliable, and skewed toward US-based topics, because of the simple fact that Google is US-based. Therefore, you would expect to pick up many more results for US terms rather than foreign ones, because most English-speaking nations are excluded from the search. There's also the fact that the US media tends to overwhelm Google searches, having many more online hits per person than, say, Canada, Tuvalu or Wales. The US is also significantly more right-wing than almost all other English-speaking nations, and has an unusually opinionated press - meaning that loaded terms such as pro-life, anti-abortion, anti-choice, anti-woman, etc are used more than the average. There's also the fact that your search will pick up a mass of unrelated results, such as the Pro Life Fitness Centre, in Paisley, the warisacrime.com website, and the vegan pro-life turkey movement. Pro-life can be applied to many arguments - the death penalty, the vegan debate, the war debate. Anti-abortion cannot be.

As for your comment about how often the article uses 'pro-life' - your logic is circular. For example, if I wrote the article Policies of the US Republican Party, and referred to them as 'idiotic policies' 114 times, would that be an argument to name the article Idiotic Policies of the US Republican Party? Of course not - it'd be an argument to reword the article to avoid the loaded term. So, I present you with a simple option to avoid you having to go to MEDCOM: Re-write the article so that it doesn't include 'pro-life'. The Cavalry (Message me) 21:13, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unless the policy changed recently, Google Search is one of the recommended methods for determining the Common Name. It even tells you to use " -wikipedia". Change all the instances of pro-life in the article to something else? Can't. That's what reliable sources use. (If I'd had a search and replace function, I would have replaced "pro-life" with "opposition to legalized abortion" 114 times. Wouldn't that have been pretty?) --Kenatipo ^speak! 23:46, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you had your mind made up beforehand that "Pro-life" is a loaded term, perhaps you should have stayed out of the decision-making on the title. And, it is not circular logic to expect the article title to reflect what's in the article. --Kenatipo ^speak! 00:36, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, unless it changed recently, GHITS was never more than an essay, and was certainly never a policy. Secondly, your 'search and replace' approach to editing articles is simply wonderful - why not suggest it to the Featured Article editors? I'm sure that such a hack-and-slash approach to editing will save them a lot of time in the long run - If you like, I can suggest it to Ironholds myself. As to my having made a decision as to the term 'prolife' being loaded - so is 'anti-life', so is 'pro-choice', so are all the other variations. That's the point in changing it to a neutral title - so that we avoided loaded terms. The consensus was pretty clear on that point. I can see that you're not particularly happy with my decision, and that nothing I say will change that. If you feel I've made an inappropriate decision, feel free to take it all the way to ARBCOM, or press for sanctions against me at ANI. As it stands, I'm confident that I was impartial, and confident that the entire community will think so. Indeed, you're the only person who seems to have a complaint... The Cavalry (Message me) 16:06, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're the one suggesting that every instance of "prolife" be removed from the article. Good luck with that. --Kenatipo ^speak! 17:34, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not my concern, I'm not interested in the content of the article. Good luck with the whole find/replace thing, it's a novel idea. The Cavalry (Message me) 17:39, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talk about the tail wagging the dog! "Let's rename the article to something we like, then re-write the article so the article content will match the new article title." Bass-ackwards! (See above comments about common sense). --Kenatipo ^speak! 18:07, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hilarious. The Cavalry (Message me) 18:08, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, it gets better: "I'm not interested in the content of the article, so it doesn't really matter whether the article title reflects the article content or not." --Kenatipo ^speak! 19:09, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::::::::::Talk about the tail wagging the dog!  "Let's rename the article to something we like, then re-write the article so the article content will match the new article title."  Bass-ackwards!  (See above comments about common sense).  --[[User:Kenatipo|<span style="color:#933;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''<big>Kenatipo</big>'''</span>]]  <sup>[[User talk:Kenatipo|speak!]]</sup> 18:07, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 :::::::::::Hilarious. [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|The Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Message me]]) 18:08, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
+::::::::::::Wait, it gets better:  "I'm not interested in the content of the article, so it doesn't really matter whether the article title reflects the article content or not."  --[[User:Kenatipo|<span style="color:#933;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''<big>Kenatipo</big>'''</span>]]  <sup>[[User talk:Kenatipo|speak!]]</sup> 19:09, 2 August 2011 (UTC)