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Sokil Kyiv and GA

Was just looking over GA nominations, and noticed that Sokil Kyiv was not listed as a nominee, even though the talk page of the article says it is. Which probably means that you may have not added it to the list. Might want to add it there so someone can review it. Kaiser matias (talk) 00:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It had to have been added to Wikipedia:Good article nominations#Sports and recreation. I may be wrong, but I couldn't find it on that list. Kaiser matias (talk) 00:43, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image copyright problem with File:Mikhnov-pic.png

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Ukrainian Major League

Please explain why you are using these flags for cities? For example the team Patriot Vinnytsia in Vinnytsia not Vinnytsia Oblast, so these flags do not add credabilty to your article, do they? Cheers --Ilyaroz (talk) 03:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Report at AE

Your refusal to tone it down and be more civil has forced me to report you to AE: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Lvivske. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading images to Commons

Can I upload images to Wikipedia Commons from a website of the Government of Ukraine? They are photos (1 colour, 3 b&w) of protests in Kyiv from July 1990 - August 1991. They are posted on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website. Jwkozak91 (talk) 03:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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hockey league

I edited this page that you started... International Hockey League (1992–1996) ... it looks like the page can use some more work... perhaps you could help fix it up a bit more? (LAz17 (talk) 03:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

Mediation

A mediation case has been opened regarding the Polish-Ukranian WWII dispute. I have picked up that case. Here's the link:

Polish-Ukranian WWII disputes.

If you choose not to participate, please tell me on my talk page. Thanks! :-) Xavexgoem (talk) 00:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ukraina Bez Lenina!!

Patriots! Nash Kanads'ka Sich has organized a petition to President Yushchenko to remove all Bolshevik monuments from Ukraine! Please sign this petition!

ipetitions.com/petition/decommunisation/index.html

дякую! Jwkozak91 (talk) 09:03, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alexei Cherepanov

Hi there. If you read the ESPN story, you'll see it explains that the investigation (and report) was done by the "federal Investigative Committee" (a body parallel to the Office of the Prosecutor General), not the League's Disciplinary Committee. See [1] as well. Best wishes, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 16:08, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Roster format

I couldn't remember if I was doing it wrong initially or if I was incorrectly changing it... thanks for the heads up, next time I run through and update everything, I'll change it back! (unless WildCherry6 wants to go mess everything up again haha) {Saint0wen (talk) 08:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC)}[reply]

UPA

I would appreciate if you wouldn't re-insert wrong title to section about Massacres of Poles in UPA article. Thank you!--Paweł5586 (talk) 07:37, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, why did you remove this image (among other things)

with edit summary "vandalism"?--Jacurek (talk) 08:24, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

why did pawel delete the photo of UPA in non-volyn/galicia poland and replace it with that? it has already been disputed in the talk page that the photo of dead bodies shouldn't be in the article, but rather in the appropriate one about the massacres.--Львівське (talk) 08:35, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe there should not be any pictures at all? Marching soldiers in "massacres of civilians" section looks like glorification of these actions.--Jacurek (talk) 08:47, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How is a picture with no context glorifying? --Львівське (talk) 08:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just looks like that...really. I think the section would be better of without any pictures. What's there to illustrate anyway....--Jacurek (talk) 08:52, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Surely you can't be serious? Look at the Wehrmacht page, do you find those pictures glorifying? Nobody seems to have a problem there.--Львівське (talk) 08:57, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just telling you what I think. In my opinion these pictures should be moved out of the section about the massacres unless you can find a picture of UPA soldiers executing civilians. Marching or practicing pictures have nothing to do with this section.--Jacurek (talk) 09:04, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So you find a photo of the UPA in Volyn to be off topic about a section on UPA fighting in Volyn? That's a little backwards --Львівське (talk) 09:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also the section title is misleading right now.--Jacurek (talk) 09:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How is it misleading by being neutral and avoiding over weighing one event?--Львівське (talk) 09:26, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1RR at Ukrainian Insurgent Army

Hello Lvivske. It looks to me that you have reverted this article twice on October 27. Please undo your last revert to avoid sanctions. The reference to 'vandalism' in your edit summary is the kind of thing that inexperienced editors do, but you've been around for a while. If you were to stop editing this article for at least a week it might help you regain your composure. EdJohnston (talk) 23:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UPA again

I really don't want to fight about this, but:

1) the pic is relevant to the section so it should stay.

2) In this paragraph: (ethnic cleansing) against Poles realised by Dmytro Klyachkivsky. As the Supreme Commander of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army he continued anti-Polish action in Eastern Lesser Poland (Eastern Galicia). In April 1944, main Command of UIA ordered massive ethnic cleansing of Poles from Galicia. In late 1943 and early 1944, after most Poles of Volhynia had either been murdered or had fled the area, the conflict spread to the neighboring province of Galicia. Unlike in the case of Volhynia, where Polish villages were usually destroyed and their inhabitants murdered without warning, in east Galicia Poles were usually given the choice of fleeing or being killed.ref name=motykaupa

I took out "ethnic cleansing" from the first sentence and I would fact tag it. I removed (or if I didn't I would remove) the second sentence entirely since it appears to be unsourced. I'd leave the third sentence in as is, after my change of "sometimes" to "usually" since it is cited to a reliable source.

3) The text you're restoring says: he methods used by Ukrainian nationalists in both Galicia and Volyn consisted of killing all Polish residents in the villages, then pillaging the villages and burning them to the ground. Victims, regardless of their age or gender, were routinely tortured to death.^{[citation needed]}

I'd think you'd agree with removing it since it is unsourced and POV.

4) Third paragraph you added as a summary of what was in there previously, seems fine.radek (talk) 07:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So we're agreed on 3). On the pic, I think it's relevant but it's not a must, so if you really insist, it can stay out. On 2) I think that until a general re-write of the section is done, which clearly seperates the Volhynia from the Galicia we should have something in there. So as a temporary working solution how about something like this:

...against Poles realised by Dmytro Klyachkivsky. As the Supreme Commander of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army he continued anti-Polish action in the neighboring province of Eastern Lesser Poland (Eastern Galicia){[fact}} where the conflict spread to in late 1943 and 1944. Unlike in the case of Volhynia, where Polish villages were usually destroyed and their inhabitants murdered without warning, in east Galicia Poles were usually first given the choice of fleeing.ref name=motykaupa

radek (talk) 07:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, remove the ''...against Poles realised by Dmytro Klyachkivsky. since it just repeats what previously said, and in the next sentence just replace "Supreme Commander of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army" with "Klyachkivsky". Or something like that.radek (talk) 07:42, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I think replacing "Lesser Poland" with Galicia is fine.radek (talk) 07:48, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Attack on Hrubieszów

I stubbed this Attack on Hrubieszów if you want to help out with working on it. I got a few Polish sources: [2] and Motyka (offline), but more is sources is better. Note that there was a lot of fighting between Ukrainian and Polish partisans (mostly BcH) in this area pre-1945 but this article should focus on the 1946 joint action.radek (talk) 08:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As part of that article, I ended up stubbing Jurij Lopatynsky. He's got a Ukrainian Wiki page uk:Лопатинський Юрій and a Polish wiki page (which I think is just a translation of the Ukrainian one) here pl:Jurij Łopatynśkyj. If you can, please expand and double check things like spelling etc.radek (talk) 05:49, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Atlant

Just curious, how come we're referring to them as Atlant Moscow Oblast and not as Atlant Mytishchi? Just something I've been wondering. (Saint0wen (talk) 06:26, 6 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

KHL stuff

I added a new potential expansion team for the KHL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_Kontinental_Hockey_League_expansion#North_Asia See if you could fix up what I added there just now. I'm not in the mood to fix it now, and have gotten a bit sick of editing stuff... (been editing too much on hockey lately). (LAz17 (talk) 02:41, 9 November 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

Spasiba. :) (LAz17 (talk) 02:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

more stuff

Input in discussion, pazalusta. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ice_Hockey#team_template (LAz17 (talk) 05:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

November 2009

Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Anže Kopitar. Thank you. As I said to the IP; Calling someone a vandal over a simple disagreement is not ok. You're an experienced editor, you should know this and what to do instead. —Krm500 ^{(Communicate!)} 07:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Slovenian vs Slovene

Lvivske - Please read and ensure you fully understand the available naming convention guidelines on Slovenian versus Slovene (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28Slovenian_vs_Slovene%29). Not only did you alter the term used by the original author (in contradiction to point 4), you called the user who was justified in reverting your change a vandal!

PS - Virtually every single article written on Kopitar refers to him as a Slovenian (except for a few unfortunate Slovak references here and there). Although Slovenian is clearly a more popular and common term than Slovene, I will not be changing other wiki articles from Slovene->Slovenian (according to the naming conventions) without speaking to the administrators (I have no interest in getting into an edit war). However, the days of Slovene being the predominant term employed on Wikipedia are numbered.

* http://translate.google.com/?hl=en#
* http://www.slovenia.si/slovenia_facts/ (Slovenian government's own site calls the Slovenian language Slovenian, and people Slovenian)
* http://www.sazu.si/en/ (Slovenian Academy of Science <- official name)
* http://www.sta.si/en/ (Slovenian Press Agency <- official name)
* http://www.fifa.com
  - http://www.fifa.com/search/index.htmx?q=%22slovenians%22 ("Slovenians" - 15 articles)
  - http://www.fifa.com/search/index.htmx?q=%22slovenes%22 ("Slovenes" - just 1 article from way back in 1996)
  - http://www.fifa.com/search/index.htmx?q=%22slovenian%22 ("Slovenian" - 83 articles)
  - http://www.fifa.com/search/index.htmx?q=%22slovene%22 ("Slovene" - 3 articles)
* http://www.nhl.com (where Kopitar plays)
  - http://www.nhl.com/ice/search.htm?q=%22slovenian%22&tab=news ("Slovenian - 13 articles)
  - http://www.nhl.com/ice/search.htm?q=%22slovene%22&tab=news ("Slovene" - 2 articles)
* http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc195120.aspx  <- Slovenian keyboard layout
* http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all.html <- Mozilla's Firefox browser is available in "Slovenian"
* http://europa.eu/abc/european_countries/languages/slovenian/index_en.htm?_sl <- the official website of the European Union

Spozzy (talk) 19:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What are you talking about? Link clearly shows no support for slovenian, nor does it support your point. Naming convention says either goes as long as its consistent; and if slovenian is so overwhelmingly accepted, why are the slovene language and people pages named as they are? Don't argue with me, this seems to be a well documented divide on wikipedia with no consensus. --Львівське (talk) 08:40, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The link says this under Naming Convention:

Wikipedia:Naming conventions states that article names "should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize." Preliminary research into which term is more recognized, using scientific samples of English usage known as "corpora" indicates that "Slovenian" is more common. (English Corpora). Therefore we are establishing style guidelines on this page for reference and dispute resolution on all Wikipedia articles and related project pages.

1. Articles with Slovene in the title should be redirected to main articles using Slovenian. (Exception: Articles about organizations that use Slovene)

2. For the sake of consistency, "Slovenian" in the title demands the same term be used throughout that article. "Slovene" in the title demands the opposite. (Exception: specific material that reasonably requires inconsistent usage.)

3. Naming conventions are not applicable to articles that use "Slovene" or "Slovenian" in the body text only. For these articles, either term is allowable, as long as its usage is consistent.

4. For the sake of consistency, it is preferred that subsequent editors respect the terminology used by the originator of the article.

Spozzy (talk) 12:42, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whooops! Missed the box at the top that says:

This page is currently inactive and is retained for historical reference. Either the page is no longer relevant, or consensus on its purpose has become unclear. To revive discussion regarding the subject, seek broader input via a forum such as the village pump proposals page.

Sorry about this. I will discuss this with the administrators and seek to reach a consensus. Spozzy (talk) 12:52, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not attack other editors, as you did here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:59.141.18.155&oldid=325685602. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Toddst1 (talk) 18:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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