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Hello. I do not know what the previous "Category:Endangered languages of Indonesia" page looked like, but I was considering re-making it. There is already a list page ([[List of endangered languages in Indonesia]]), but I notice that India, for instance, has both a list page ([[List of endangered languages in India]]) and a category page ("Category:Endangered languages of India"). Right now the only category to put endangered languages of Indonesia in is "Category:Endangered languages of Asia" which seems too broad to be very useful. Is there some reason not to re-make the "Category:Endangered languages of Indonesia" page? [[User:BlakeALee|BlakeALee]] ([[User talk:BlakeALee|talk]]) 21:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Hello. I do not know what the previous "Category:Endangered languages of Indonesia" page looked like, but I was considering re-making it. There is already a list page ([[List of endangered languages in Indonesia]]), but I notice that India, for instance, has both a list page ([[List of endangered languages in India]]) and a category page ("Category:Endangered languages of India"). Right now the only category to put endangered languages of Indonesia in is "Category:Endangered languages of Asia" which seems too broad to be very useful. Is there some reason not to re-make the "Category:Endangered languages of Indonesia" page? [[User:BlakeALee|BlakeALee]] ([[User talk:BlakeALee|talk]]) 21:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{Reply to|BlakeALee}} Hi, feel free to create the category. It was deleted in accordance with [[WP:CSD#G5]], which only applies to the sockpuppet's edits and has no bearing on that of others. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 00:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{Reply to|BlakeALee}} Hi, feel free to create the category. It was deleted in accordance with [[WP:CSD#G5]], which only applies to the sockpuppet's edits and has no bearing on that of others. [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#000000">✗</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<span style="color:white;background:black;font-family:felix titling;font-size:80%">plicit</span>]] 00:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::Ok great thank you! [[User:BlakeALee|BlakeALee]] ([[User talk:BlakeALee|talk]]) 18:14, 25 March 2024 (UTC)


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Revision as of 18:14, 25 March 2024

It is approximately 11:41 AM where this user lives (South Korea). [refresh]

Bhutto sidebar

I understand that the Template:Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto sidebar was created by a blocked user, but it is extremely important to the Pakistani politics page, he is one of, if not the most important politician in Pakistan’s history, and he has to have a separate sidebar, is there any way you can reverse the deletion of the template? Titan2456 (talk) 17:22, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pavlo Arie

Hey Explicit! I am currently writing an article on Pavlo Arie, and I just found out it has been deleted today due to a sock puppetry case. To avoid any confusion, mistaken identity, or misunderstanding, could you please give me the green light to work on the article? I'm writing this article due to my participation in Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2024. Thank you. Pangalau (talk) 13:17, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pangalau: Hi, feel free to work on the page. G5 only applies to the sockpuppet's edits and has no bearing on that of others. plicit 13:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the swift response! Pangalau (talk) 13:30, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pangalau: Did you copy the prior article text into the page? It looks that way to me. If so, this is a copyright violation problem. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Bri. I appreciate the concern you have regarding the article. You should take a closer look at my sandbox's history to see that my editing patterns for any of my articles would be impractical for me if I'm just copying another person's work. Additionally, I have no access to the history of the previous (deleted) article, which makes it twice as unlikely. The only suspicion I get is because I recreated the same article on the same day as it was deleted. This is because I'm closely monitoring the suggest articles section of Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2024 I'm taking part in. Thank you. Pangalau (talk) 22:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page Creation Require

Dear Wiki Contributer Team, Kindly create page of Gaurav Dewasi as per google knowledge panel. https://g.co/kgs/oR11DEU 103.162.178.238 (talk) 05:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for your work as an admin and for promptly processing the CSD nominations :) – DreamRimmer (talk) 12:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request a detailed explanation in your own words why an image was deleted

I notice that you deleted File:2018 Memorial Cup commemorative postage stamp.jpg, with the rationale (F7: Violates non-free content criterion #1). I contested its deletion and provided an explanation on the image's page, explaining why I felt that image had "no free equivalent" and was "minimal usage". Please explain in your own words why the image failed criterion #1 and #3. Your edit summary was not helpful in understanding your rationale. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 01:11, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Flibirigit: In order to meet the "No free equivalent" criterion, the file in question needs to passs two tests. In the second question outlined at WP:FREER, it fails the second: "Could the subject be adequately conveyed by properly sourced text without using the non-free content at all?" The text in the article adequately described the image: "The CHL and Canada Post produced a 100th anniversary postage stamp, released on May 18, 2018, which featured two Regina players from the inaugural 1919 Memorial Cup." plicit 01:29, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the response. I could not find a link from WP:NFCC#1 to WP:FREER. It is possible to place such a link? Flibirigit (talk) 15:21, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Flibirigit: Hmm, I wonder if linking "serve the same encyclopedic purpose" would suffice? plicit 03:38, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will trust your judgment there. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 10:58, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quick note

Apologies for the U5 nom here, I missed that it was created by a different editor to whose userspace it's in. AusLondonder (talk) 08:21, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you undelete

File:Darkstalkers-felicia.png and File:Felicia concept arts.png ? They were unused for a while because the article they were in was redireted without due process (no AFD/PROD, just bold redirecting). I've restored the article and until there is consensus at AfD it should not exist, the images can be returned there (Felicia (Darkstalkers)). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:36, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus:  Done, both restored. plicit 03:38, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Resubmitting deleted page/article

Hello Explicit,

On 1/27 you deleted my page (11:09, 27 January 2024 Explicit talk contribs deleted page User:DrJsStph/sandbox (G8: Redirect to a deleted or non-existent page).

I am now trying to resubmit the article after making the requested edits. The system is telling me to contact you first. I'd be happy to share my changes, if needed.

Let me know.

Thank you. DrJsStph (talk) 19:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New section

Hi! @Explicit, you're invited to join the discussion for article deletion Bitsaeon. Aidillia (talk) 10:49, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Black market in wartime France/translation in progress

Re: speedy deletion of Draft:Black market in wartime France/translation in progress -- Yeah, could you undelete? The article has been live for months and I think this is something a confused NPPer did, but since you mention it I may as well make sure that I didn't leave anything out by when I was moved text in. I thought he took care of this though. Thanks Elinruby (talk) 06:37, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PS: You can send email or move to a sandbox. Your choice. Just don't overwrite the real article is all I ask ;) Elinruby (talk) 06:39, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Elinruby: Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. They are not for the indefinite hosting of material that is unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Please continue to work on the draft so that it meets Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for inclusion, prior to another six months elapsing. plicit 06:42, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eh ok I know you had to read me the script. Thank you. It's a backup I didn't make and didn't ask for, but since I now know it exists, I might as well check it to see if something got left out... When I am done with it, the syntax is {{prod}}, is that right? Appreciate your time Elinruby (talk) 06:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Elinruby: PROD can not be applied to drafts. If any of the content will be merged into an existing article, it should be redirected there for attribution purposes. If not, it can simply be deleted after no edits are made for six continuous months in accordance with WP:CSD#G13. plicit 12:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please reopen the discussion which was attended by 1 Keep and 3 Delete comments, as the deletion request was mistaken as to scope. The "bloat" of the template is in the use of the authors names when the template should just list the article names without author attribution. This is an important difference in the nomination and deletion comments, the navbox is being easily fixed (see User:Randy Kryn/Christmas literature navbox work in progress) and the topic is well-covered in media (Christmas literature is a common and readily found holiday topic). This obvious fix could have been done pre-nomination. In addition, WP:CLN focuses on the complimentary status of categories, lists, and navboxes, they are not in opposition. As for the nomination saying the articles are "tangentially related", ?, they are all Christmas literature! How is this tangential. Anyway, before this gets too bloated itself, this one should be kindly reopened and hopefully you will take a look at the misinformed "bloating" to see what I'm talking about. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ping to Woodensuperman, WikiCleanerMan, Jonesey95, and Izno, please see the edited version User:Randy Kryn/Christmas literature navbox. I agree it was way too bloated and malformed by adding the author's names, have fixed that. Maybe reconsider your nom and deletes due to this new version, thanks (and to all a good night). Randy Kryn (talk) 12:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest, if returned, it be renamed "Christmas literature" which is presently an empty navbox title. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:33, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Randy Kryn: If you don't mind, I'd like to wait until at least two users who !voted "delete" to chime in before considering this request. Their opinion may not be swayed, but we'll have to wait and see. plicit 12:57, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I wish I'd known about the nomination and would have done the edits sooner. Here is the original booed, drawn-and-quartered deleted version ({{Christmas-themed literature}} compared to the streamlined Santa-and-Tiny-Tim approved version for quick comparison. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:14, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid that I still don't think Randy's revised version is suitable. This is definitely more appropriate for category navigation. --woodensuperman 08:07, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
May I ask, in the spirit of Virginia, why it's not suitable? Seems to have addressed the concerns. Thanks. And a reminder from WP:CLN "Categories, lists, and navigation templates are three different ways to group and organize articles. Although they each have their own advantages and disadvantages, each method complements the others.", and "Accordingly, these methods should not be considered in conflict with each other. Rather, they are synergistic, each one complementing the others." (that wording is like a package under a tree) Randy Kryn (talk) 10:23, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Inclusion is too subjective. And just because you can navigate in different ways doesn't mean that you should navigate in every possible way. Sometimes one method is more appropriate than another. And that's what we have here. --woodensuperman 13:29, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Inclusion includes the objective subject "Christmas literature". Indeed, the subject seems an objective closed loop, writings about Christmas as a celebrated holiday. Anyway, this is a discussion that should be at a nomination itself, and this one could logically be reopened because of the new formation of the navbox, a collab creative effort which directly addresses the concerns expressed by participants. Also, notification to interested pages and Wikiprojects did not occur (i.e. List of Christmas-themed literature, Wikprojects Holidays and Christianity) which should be an important step when wanting to delete such a major holiday-themed Wikipedia map. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:18, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just use the list and the category. We don't need a navbox too. --woodensuperman 21:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some readers read lists, others read categories, and still others use navboxes as their map. That's where "Rather, they are synergistic, each one complementing the others." comes in: is the topic worthy of all three? The topic "Christmas literature" is, easily argued, worthy of all three. More than literally a handful of editors should weigh your good faith interest in not allowing even the trimmed-down version to what others experience as a useful and functional holiday navbox. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:37, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If a Festivus miracle pccurs and the navbox is returned, either soon or the night before Christmas, it should probably be collapsed (except on List of Christmas-themed literature where it would exhibit the full page-principal map). On the others it would appear too large for autocollapse. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting undeletion of a template I nominated for deletion

I requested deletion of the Template:Order of the Solar Temple, which you deleted per this discussion. There was one other deletion participant, who gave the rationale "per nomination". After working on this page and related pages (as well as working on making several) I have realized that my initial impression that this was a topic that could not have more than the few pages it had then was mistaken, and there are additional pages currently in existence that would be in scope for it. Given that my arguments for deletion were the only rationale given, and it was incorrect, I'd appreciate if the template was undeleted. Thank you! PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PARAKANYAA:  Done, I have undeleted the template. plicit 11:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting a review of a new version of a previously deleted article

Dear Explicit,

first of all thank you for making Wikipedia a better place! About a year ago I created a draft that has never reached the standard it needed to have. You deleted it because of G8. I have now finished a new article about the same topic, making sure to link and reference everything to the best of my ability.

Would you possibly be so kind as to review this new draft? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ren%C3%A9_Heinzl I would like to leave high quality content, but I am still fairly inexperienced. Thank you very much!

IzzyAsThat (talk) 20:35, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Endangered languages of Indonesia

Hello. I do not know what the previous "Category:Endangered languages of Indonesia" page looked like, but I was considering re-making it. There is already a list page (List of endangered languages in Indonesia), but I notice that India, for instance, has both a list page (List of endangered languages in India) and a category page ("Category:Endangered languages of India"). Right now the only category to put endangered languages of Indonesia in is "Category:Endangered languages of Asia" which seems too broad to be very useful. Is there some reason not to re-make the "Category:Endangered languages of Indonesia" page? BlakeALee (talk) 21:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BlakeALee: Hi, feel free to create the category. It was deleted in accordance with WP:CSD#G5, which only applies to the sockpuppet's edits and has no bearing on that of others. plicit 00:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok great thank you! BlakeALee (talk) 18:14, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Q-word

Hi, you might be interested in looking at this edit. Thank you. —ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 03:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Rhodesia-independence-stamp-1965.jpg

Hi - you deleted this file, which had a fair use justification. I engaged with the original filer that I did not view this as a valid F7 claim - AFAIA there was no reponse to my second reply. Did you see the discussion? Was there a further reply to my second response? (I did not see this if there was). Many thanks, Goldsztajn (talk) 06:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Goldsztajn: Hi, I read the discussion, which did not receive any additional responses after yours, and found it unconvincing in regards to the contextual significance criterion. You argued that by seeing the word "independence" on the stamp, it showed "Rhodesia's retention of the monarchy following the UDI" and that the absence of the stamp would be detrimental to understanding that. But is this aspect not fulfilled by the text in the History section of the article, which describes Southern Rhodesia's unilateral declaration from the UK but loyalty to Elizabeth II? Or even the freely licensed image of the UDI itself? I did not see a particularly strong argue demonstrating how a non-free image of a stamp is capable of conveying information that the freely licensed content in the article does not already. plicit 12:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]