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File:Château de Billeron.jpg
Hi @Explicit: I noticed this image was deleted about two weeks ago and forgot about it and came across it this afternoon. It seems to have violated WP:NFCC No.1 - No free equivalent. As far as I know there is public domain or free images of the Château available. I'm not sure how it applies. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 02:11, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Scope creep: Hi, WP:NFCC#1 does not require for a free equivalent to exist at the moment, but that it can be created. As the structure still exists, the possibility of a freely licensed photo being created still exists, which is why File:Château de Billeron.jpg was deleted. ƏXPLICIT 12:47, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Explicit: That sounds like catch-22 situation. Your saying that if a free image exists somewhere, If I'm reading this right, or is created in the future, we can't have a fair-use image. In this instance there is never likely to be a public domain image created. It is a private residence, owned by an exceedingly wealthy duchess whose direct ancestor happened to get embroiled in spying scandal in the 1940's. It will not have a public domain image ever. Such things do not happen unless some catastrophic event happens like the family dying out e.g the château is put up for auction, which is unlikely to happen, in the near future, at least 80 years from now as a new duchess has been born. This is the only image available of the château which was taken in the 1960's in regard the spying scandal. scope_creepTalk 13:22, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
- The rationale for the image was that a group of agents, or spys if you like under Leopold Trepper ran seven espionage networks in France, Belgium and the low countries. One of these networks managed to infiltrate the highest levels of French society. The lady who was running this French network was a nerve doctor. The duchess invited the nerve doctor to setup up a clinic in the château and the great and the good from French society attended the clinic and through that nerve doctor picked up a huge amount of intelligence that went straight to the Soviet Union. The picture show the height she reached in French society and how deeply that group was penetrated. It doesn't have the same impact in words. But when you see that you see how well they did. They were welcomed with opened arms. scope_creepTalk 13:33, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Scope creep: Have you contacted the copyright owner and asked if they would be willing to release this image under a free license? Also, I searched around a bit and it seems that free tours of the exterior are held once a year, and there is one coming up. It may be difficult to obtain a picture, but not impossible. For example, we did not have a freely licensed photo (only a sketch) of Kim Jong-un up until early March 2018. It was pretty much impossible to obtain a freely licensed photo before then, but an exception was not made to utilize a non-free image. ƏXPLICIT 06:07, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Explicit: Yip. I understand the mechanics of why we need free images but even for me who loves France and has been there on holiday several times, travelling down to the château just to take a picture during the tour is a wee bit beyond my purview. Even for myself who is fairly decent at reearch and doesn't mind beavering away for an extended period of time to get an analysis of the facts, even that also beyond my purview. I did have conversations with different people in 2009, both here and on the web, when I was in a similar situation, looking for the copyright holder and just seemed a byzantine process with no guarantee of success. I guess its stalled for the moment. I often wonder why we don't have a portal open on Facebook, independent of the WMF requesting an image from certain folk. Make it a competition or fashionable to do it. Kim Jong-un would see it and send us one. They would flood in. I'll leave it here. scope_creepTalk 11:40, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Scope creep: Have you contacted the copyright owner and asked if they would be willing to release this image under a free license? Also, I searched around a bit and it seems that free tours of the exterior are held once a year, and there is one coming up. It may be difficult to obtain a picture, but not impossible. For example, we did not have a freely licensed photo (only a sketch) of Kim Jong-un up until early March 2018. It was pretty much impossible to obtain a freely licensed photo before then, but an exception was not made to utilize a non-free image. ƏXPLICIT 06:07, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
- The rationale for the image was that a group of agents, or spys if you like under Leopold Trepper ran seven espionage networks in France, Belgium and the low countries. One of these networks managed to infiltrate the highest levels of French society. The lady who was running this French network was a nerve doctor. The duchess invited the nerve doctor to setup up a clinic in the château and the great and the good from French society attended the clinic and through that nerve doctor picked up a huge amount of intelligence that went straight to the Soviet Union. The picture show the height she reached in French society and how deeply that group was penetrated. It doesn't have the same impact in words. But when you see that you see how well they did. They were welcomed with opened arms. scope_creepTalk 13:33, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Explicit: That sounds like catch-22 situation. Your saying that if a free image exists somewhere, If I'm reading this right, or is created in the future, we can't have a fair-use image. In this instance there is never likely to be a public domain image created. It is a private residence, owned by an exceedingly wealthy duchess whose direct ancestor happened to get embroiled in spying scandal in the 1940's. It will not have a public domain image ever. Such things do not happen unless some catastrophic event happens like the family dying out e.g the château is put up for auction, which is unlikely to happen, in the near future, at least 80 years from now as a new duchess has been born. This is the only image available of the château which was taken in the 1960's in regard the spying scandal. scope_creepTalk 13:22, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi. You wrote: "unclear how non-free cover art is replaceable by a free alternative". But the point is that this image represents charactes and not episodes. Episodes are represented by the text descriptions and cannot be represented by a media cover. I believe this image doesn't help to identify episodes. Coolak (talk) 23:55, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Coolak: Hi, WP:NFLISTS allows the use of a non-free cover in list articles to act as a representative image of said topic in some instances. I'm reminded of a similar instance at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 October 22#File:One Piece, Volume 1.jpg where I voiced a concern similar to yours, but consensus sided against me. You are free to nominate the image for deletion at WP:FFD if you wish to proceed. ƏXPLICIT 00:18, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hmm, ok, then how about the fact that there's a very similar image in List of Winx Club characters? Do we really need another similar one for episodes? Coolak (talk) 00:49, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Coolak: I find that the use of a non-free image of an animated cast is more justifiable in list articles, as it is basically outlined as the first point on WP:NFLISTS. Cover art in list articles is more of a murky area, so I'm less inclined to support in such instances. ƏXPLICIT 05:36, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hmm, ok, then how about the fact that there's a very similar image in List of Winx Club characters? Do we really need another similar one for episodes? Coolak (talk) 00:49, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:Mario - D.N.A.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Mario - D.N.A.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
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BoutiqueAfricaine.com
Please undelete our page.This wasn't advertising : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BoutiqueAfricaine.com Should you require additional information, please reach out to the business owner. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsk digital (talk • contribs) 19:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Hsk digital: Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ƏXPLICIT 02:48, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
timmi-kat records
@explicit
Please restore timmi-kat records — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.87.129.143 (talk) 05:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ƏXPLICIT 06:03, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
MUSH
You deleted images off the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:MUSH. The owner of those images gave explicit permission to use the images over email. Please explain why the images were deleted and how they can be put back up. These were the file links: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MUSH_Logo,_white_on_black,_padded.png and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WB_MUSH.jpg
EncycloMEdia07 (talk) 19:36, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Hi EncycloMEdia07. Explicit only deleted File:WB MUSH.jpg; the other file (File:MUSH_Logo,_white_on_black,_padded.png) was deleted from Wikimedia Commons by a Commons administrator named Jcb and you will have to ask Jcb about that one. Both were deleted for lacking proper permission; so, please see c:COM:OTRS#Licensing images: when do I contact OTRS? for more details, but basically what typically is needed is for the copyright holder to send a WP:CONSENT email to Wikimedia OTRS for verification purposes. The copyright holder basically needs to give their permission to anyone anywhere in the world to download the files at anytime for any purpose, including any commercial and derivative use; it's not going to be sufficient for them to just give permission to you or to just give permission for "use on Wikipedia only". If the copyright holder already sent in such an email (they have to have sent it directly; forwarded emails are not going to be accepted), then they should've received a reply containing an OTRS ticket number; they can use this number to ask for assistance at either WP:OTRSN or c:COM:OTRSN. Please note that OTRS correspondence is considered to be private; so, an OTRS volunteer will only discuss the details of emails with the sender. You might be able to get some general info (e.g. email received but not sufficient) if you ask OTRS, but that's about it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:46, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
- @EncycloMEdia07: In addition to the comment above, the edit history of both files shows that they were tagged for deletion by OTRS volunteers for insufficient permission given in the private email. ƏXPLICIT 23:50, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
Some pics deleted
Hi,
A week or so ago a few pictures I submitted were deleted, and the clarification for all of them was "F4: Lack of licensing information". The pictures were: Fenrizcat.jpg Fenriz opt.jpg Nocturno Culto opt.jpg Darkthrone 2016 opt.png
I'd like to know what information exactly I have to provide in order to get those pics back up again. I included the links where I found all the pictures and credited the photographers IIRC, because I thought that would be good enough. Obviously it wasn't, which led to their deletion. I absolutely think that those pictures are the most worthy of being displayed on the pages I posted them on, and really want to get them back up.
Thanks
Afra0732 (talk) 04:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Afra0732: Hi, these images were deleted because they lacked the necessary copyright tags. Please note that most images you might find on the Internet are copyrighted and not appropriate for uploading to Wikipedia. ƏXPLICIT 00:19, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Why did you delete the all that tour wiki page
I was wanting to read it after watching all that but it's gone Thomasthedarkenguine (talk) 01:22, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Thomasthedarkenguine: Hi, can you please link to the article in question? ƏXPLICIT 00:25, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Images at "Editions of Dungeons & Dragons"
Hey again. Some of the images are discussed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 September 13. The ones you deleted from "Editions of Dungeons & Dragons" (hist) either didn't have their chances to be or are implicitly already discussed at FFD. Would the outcome be changed or remain the same? George Ho (talk) 18:43, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- @George Ho: I have closed the discussions in question. The case seems settled now. ƏXPLICIT 00:25, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
File:MuchMusic logo.svg
Hey Explicit: you deleted an old SVG copy of a logo that was located at File:MuchMusic logo.svg which was previously used on the page Much (TV channel). It appears an identical copy has been reuploaded by someone else at File:MuchMusic logo.png as part of the article's History section. Any chance this SVG copy can be restored to replace the reuploaded PNG copy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Limmidy (talk • contribs) 9:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Limmidy: Hi, it seems that the PNG version violates WP:NFC#cite_note-4, which was the reason the SVG version was deleted to begin with. I will be nominating it for deletion at WP:FFD shortly. ƏXPLICIT 13:03, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Request for block ip
Hi! I'm Jkg1997, Please help me to block the IP address because of disruptive editing Wikipedia (open proxy).
- 92.99.29.80 (talk · contribs · count · logs · target logs · block log · lu · rfa · rfb · arb · rfc · lta · checkuser · socks · rights · blocks · protects · deletions · moves)
Jkg1997 (talk) 17:25, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Jkg1997: Hi, a check of this IP does not recognize it as coming from an open proxy. There has also been no attempts to actually discuss the matter with the IP user on their talk page, so I cannot see any justifiable administrative action here. This is ultimately a content dispute, which is disruptive due to all parties involved. ƏXPLICIT 06:14, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Adam Phillips (animator)
Can you possibly give me the source of the page Adam Phillips (animator) that you deleted? I want to recreate it but make it more notable. I'd like the version before the weird vandalization happened, if possible. If possible, can you put it under a subapage of my userpage? Or email it to me somehow? --Luka1184 (talk) 12:54, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Luka1184: Done, I have moved the content to User:Luka1184/Adam Phillips (animator). ƏXPLICIT 13:03, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Explicit: What do you think of it at the moment? Is it better now? Is it safe from deletion, or does it need more work still? --Luka1184 (talk) 20:24, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Luka1184: The article would likely still be subject to deletion because it does not appear to satisfy the general notability guideline. In general, Wikipedia considers a topic to be notable if there exist multiple reliable sources of information on the topic, external to the subject itself. Note that IMDb is inappropriate for use in biography articles. The remaining sources largely mention him or his work in passing, or are primary (like his LinkedIn profile and the Bitey.com page). The Vice, Wired, and Slate sources are a start, but this may be a case of WP:BLP1E. ƏXPLICIT 06:14, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Explicit: Alright, now I don't know what else I could put on there. I've used references from Wired, from the now defunct but once popular website ColdHardFlash, other media outlets referencing ColdHardFlash, interviews, official articles/blog posts done by Toon Boom, a TV segment from the ABC channel, and more. Do you think I have enough? Is it a mess? --Luka1184 (talk) 13:49, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Luka1184: I have made some edits to the page and the article might survive an AFD debate, but there are still several unaddressed issues. As I mentioned above, there is too much reliance on primary sources—I counted at least ten of them (nine to bitey.com and one to the subject's LinkedIn page); the content needs to be split into subsections in accordance with MOS:LAYOUT#Headings and sections; the first reference in the lead does not verify the claim that "Phillips was a featured artist at the Adobe Design Center for the month of December 2006." The tone of the article is almost autobiographical and contains a fair amount of unencyclopedic detail. That's just what I was able to catch on a surface level. ƏXPLICIT 06:03, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Explicit: Alright, now I don't know what else I could put on there. I've used references from Wired, from the now defunct but once popular website ColdHardFlash, other media outlets referencing ColdHardFlash, interviews, official articles/blog posts done by Toon Boom, a TV segment from the ABC channel, and more. Do you think I have enough? Is it a mess? --Luka1184 (talk) 13:49, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Luka1184: The article would likely still be subject to deletion because it does not appear to satisfy the general notability guideline. In general, Wikipedia considers a topic to be notable if there exist multiple reliable sources of information on the topic, external to the subject itself. Note that IMDb is inappropriate for use in biography articles. The remaining sources largely mention him or his work in passing, or are primary (like his LinkedIn profile and the Bitey.com page). The Vice, Wired, and Slate sources are a start, but this may be a case of WP:BLP1E. ƏXPLICIT 06:14, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Explicit: What do you think of it at the moment? Is it better now? Is it safe from deletion, or does it need more work still? --Luka1184 (talk) 20:24, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
KYKNOS S.A. merging
Unfortunately, from what i saw, when you merged the KYKNOS S.A. to the Kyknos S.A. article, all the info of the first one (which was better written) was lost. Is there a way to retrieve that text and replace it with the current one?--Αρκάς (talk) 23:37, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Αρκάς: You can retrieve the text from the history tab of Kyknos (tomato sauce). ƏXPLICIT 00:06, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Request for undeletion: File:Croatia national football team 2018 badge.png
Kindly restore the file you deleted as orphaned fair use: File:Croatia national football team 2018 badge.png as I intend to return it to use in the article from which it was removed without explanation. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:02, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Just for reference, I asked Fastily about this file at User talk:Fastily/Archive 6#File:Croatia national football team 2018 badge.png, but for a slightly different reason. I'm not sure why the badge was removed, but maybe the other things should be clarified before it's restored. Are, for example, there really separate badges (logos) being used by the men's national team and the Croatian Football Federation or are they the same (or essentially the same for copyright purposes)? If it's a case of the latter, then the "older" version may no longer be needed, but a new consensus may be needed to overturn the WP:NFCR discussion which limited the file's use to the federation article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:34, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, neither logo is an exact copy of the logo currently used on the federation's website. Finnusertop, would it make a difference if the deleted file or File:Croatia national football team crest.svg was used on the national football team's article? ƏXPLICIT 00:08, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
Re doing this seasons college basketball articles
Hey, around a week ago you completely deleted articles by SpaceCity713. I completely understand why. Would there be a chance to put them in a draft so some other guys and I who are interested in college b-ball don't have to redo everything? Thanks, IsraeliIdan (talk) 15:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Zvikorn: Hi, can you please link directly to the articles in question? As the page creator was blocked as a sockpuppet of a community banned member, hundreds of pages were deleted under the WP:G5 speedy criterion, which makes it more difficult for me to pinpoint the pages I specifically deleted. ƏXPLICIT 06:09, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Adding proper licensing info?
Hi, New to wikimedia commons. Uploaded my own photo to the commons and added them to an article, they were removed due to lack of licensing information. How do I provide proper licensing information? Thanks Valpucci (talk) 05:47, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Valpucci: Hi, just for clarification, this is the English Wikipedia, now Wikimedia Commons. In regards to File:Paoli 2019 Sept Night.jpg, this file was deleted because you did not provide essential licensing information for us to determine how and to what extent others can use this image. You can read the guidelines for further information about what is required to upload images. You can find a list of the most commonly used licenses here. ƏXPLICIT 06:09, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi Explicit. Could you add the {{Oldffdfull}} template that was on the top of this file talk page to File talk:Cbf brazil logo.png? I was going to do so myself per User talk:MBisanz#Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 June 20# File:Brasileira de Futebol (escudo).svg but didn't get around to doing so before the older file was deleted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:24, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: Done, all contents copied. ƏXPLICIT 01:49, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:37, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
File:Diocese of Des Moines logo.jpg
How did this logo violate the fair use policy? The rationale for its deletion was that it was not displayed correctly, but it was put back into the infobox. This is the primary logo for the diocese not its coat of arms and it was displayed correctly at the time you deleted it. Why was it deleted? Farragutful (talk) 00:43, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Farragutful: Hi, this file was nominated for deletion by another user with the following rationale: "Does not satisfy WP:NFCC#8. The image is not used as the primary means of visual identification, contrary to the rationale." {{Infobox diocese}} provides fields for
image
andcoat
for coats of arms, the former instructing "Or specify coat of arms below" on the documentation page. Based on that and similar articles also not containing logos, it appears that there is a practice to avoid using non-free logos in the infoboxes for these diocese articles when a freely licensed coat of arms exists. ƏXPLICIT 12:20, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
Cuna de lobos characters
Hello, I see that you deleted the image that I uploaded, but I was not notified about the file deletion, clearly use the correct templates and indicated its fair use.-- Bradford ✉ 00:53, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Bradford: Hi, sorry to hear that you did not receive a notification about the file's deletion. Although encouraged, policy does not require notifying users of pending deletions.
- File:Cuna de lobos characters.jpg was nominated for deletion for violating WP:NFCC#8. As WP:NFLISTS#5 dictates, the use of non-free images of a cast is generally discouraged if freely licensed alternatives are or can be created, unless there is a strong justification to do so. ƏXPLICIT 23:45, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
- I base on this to upload the file. There the main characters of the cast are shown, the image is a screenshot taken from episode 1; The image that I uploaded is a screenshot taken from the series trailer, only that it is in better quality and does not seem to be a screenshot. I read a little why the file was deleted, but I can't understand. I do not understand why in the Andi Mack article it is allowed and in others it is not possible, I tried to specify the use of the image.-- Bradford ✉ 00:01, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Bradford: El uso de imagenes con uso justo no deben ser utilizados si hay imágenes con licencia libre o con la posibilidad de ser creado con licencia libre. Con respecto a las personas vivas, el último típicamente es posible. En algunos casos se puede usar imagenes con uso justo, pero solo si hay una diferencia significativa en la apariencia entre actor y rol. Otros artículos usan imagenes con uso justo, pero esos también violan la política oficial de Wikipedia en inglés. ƏXPLICIT 07:26, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- I base on this to upload the file. There the main characters of the cast are shown, the image is a screenshot taken from episode 1; The image that I uploaded is a screenshot taken from the series trailer, only that it is in better quality and does not seem to be a screenshot. I read a little why the file was deleted, but I can't understand. I do not understand why in the Andi Mack article it is allowed and in others it is not possible, I tried to specify the use of the image.-- Bradford ✉ 00:01, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
Help needed at Sulli's Talk page
Explicit, Sorry to bother you, but an editor has added the leaked image of Sulli's 119 report and added "hanging" as cause of death. Can you help you, please, I am at 2RR and don't want to delete it again. Also see discussion at Talk:Sulli. Thanks--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 00:54, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
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Date format and spelling for Japan-South Korea trade dispute
Hello, I'm Max923, nice to meet you. Thank you for your contribution to editing the page about 2019 Japan–South Korea trade dispute but i think the article needs to revert to same format when the article created by first contributor. I Know that in South Korea english speakers use MDY and using American English when teaching in the schools and universities. But because the article first created by Yayan550 (first contributor) and use DMY format and British spelling (think Queen English) that should be used throughout the article, if you need to edit the page, you must adjust the article with DMY sequence and you need to adjust the edit with British English Oxford spelling (with colour, centre, favour, etc but with organization preferred over organisation) than American English (color, favor, center, analyze, organization etc.) Remember! unlike the China–United States trade war which use American English, this article use British English and its sister variants (UK, australia, NZ, etc), but is not Queen English, this is Oxford spelling (with ize preferred over ise), which koreans don't understand. If you want to change the format to MDY and using American English, please discuss it in Talk page. i welcomed you to discuss it.
Thank you for the attention, you can reply this message for me. Max923 (talk) 04:08, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Max923: Hi, my implementation of the MDY format on this particular article was actually a result of finding that Jasdez had gone around to several articles and switched the date format to DMY without any reason to do so, as they did on Won Bin, Kim Woo-bin, Rhyu Si-min, etc. I mistakenly assumed the same had occurred on 2019 Japan–South Korea trade dispute, which explains my change of the date format there. Out of curiosity, I did a quick search for the format Japan uses, and found studies which indicate that American influence is as strong there as it is here in South Korea [1][2]. ƏXPLICIT 07:59, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
"could be created"
Hello- you deleted this picture recently: [3]. I would like to know clearly what it means to say that, "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose." I "feel sure" there is no free equivalent of this picture available. I also "feel sure" that none could be created because you have to get military permission to visit the vicinity. Of course, I could be wrong. Seems similar to 'You have to prove hopelessness to get bankruptcy for college debt, but you can never actually prove it.' Do you have any suggestions on how I can find a picture that will be allowed here? Thanks for any help. Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:23, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Geographyinitiative: Hi, there are a few ways in trying to obtain a freely licensed image of the lighthouse. For example, this user on Flickr has a couple of photos of the lighthouse. Although they are currently licensed as "all rights reserved", it would be worth messaging him directly and asking if he would kindly release at least one of the pictures under a license that is suitable for use on Wikipedia. Getting in contact with the township's government agencies and asking if they could supply a freely licensed image is another alternative. ƏXPLICIT 23:57, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for the incredibly constructive advice. I will try both avenues. Thanks! Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:52, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
- Well I actually did get in contact with the user who has those pictures of the lighthouse on flickr. I asked him to personally upload or allow me to upload one of the photos. In the user's response to me, the user picked out one of the pictures he thought was most appropriate (and I think it's a great one -[4]). Anyway, now I need to respond to the user, and I need to understand EXACTLY what we are talking about when we say, "ask if he would kindly release at least one of the pictures under a license that is suitable for use on Wikipedia". What do those words mean? I don't want to scare the flickr user with legalese, and I don't know if the user speaks English, so I will have to translate all of this into Mandarin Chinese. I also want to make 100% sure that this picture can get uploaded and not be in a questionable or dubious situation (if that's what the user allows). This is my very first time doing this kind of thing. Exactly how do I word the question to get the user's consent to be "good to use" on the Wuqiu Lighthouse and Wuqiu, Kinmen pages (as well as the Mandarin Chinese Wikipedia's versions of these pages)??? Thanks for any help. Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:15, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Is there a tutorial page for how to do this? Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:18, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Geographyinitiative: The easiest way to proceed is to ask the Flickr user to change the license of their upload from "All Rights Reserved" to one of three licenses Flickr offers which are allowed here: CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, or CC0. There isn't really a way to go around the legalese, unfortunately. The uploader must understand what the license entails and how others can use their work under said license. The main takeaways are outlined in the gray box, specifically the statements without any formating found at Consent/zh-hans and Consent/zh-hant (these are just permission statements for email correspondences to the permissions system, you do not need to use this). ƏXPLICIT 10:48, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- So what you're saying is that if the Flickr user changes the copyright license on the picture from what it is now to CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, or CC0, then I can upload the photo to Wikimedia Commons? Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:04, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Geographyinitiative: Yes, that's correct. ƏXPLICIT 11:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Got it done! Learned a lot. Thanks. Geographyinitiative (talk) 23:21, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Geographyinitiative: Yes, that's correct. ƏXPLICIT 11:42, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- So what you're saying is that if the Flickr user changes the copyright license on the picture from what it is now to CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, or CC0, then I can upload the photo to Wikimedia Commons? Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:04, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Geographyinitiative: The easiest way to proceed is to ask the Flickr user to change the license of their upload from "All Rights Reserved" to one of three licenses Flickr offers which are allowed here: CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, or CC0. There isn't really a way to go around the legalese, unfortunately. The uploader must understand what the license entails and how others can use their work under said license. The main takeaways are outlined in the gray box, specifically the statements without any formating found at Consent/zh-hans and Consent/zh-hant (these are just permission statements for email correspondences to the permissions system, you do not need to use this). ƏXPLICIT 10:48, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Is there a tutorial page for how to do this? Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:18, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Well I actually did get in contact with the user who has those pictures of the lighthouse on flickr. I asked him to personally upload or allow me to upload one of the photos. In the user's response to me, the user picked out one of the pictures he thought was most appropriate (and I think it's a great one -[4]). Anyway, now I need to respond to the user, and I need to understand EXACTLY what we are talking about when we say, "ask if he would kindly release at least one of the pictures under a license that is suitable for use on Wikipedia". What do those words mean? I don't want to scare the flickr user with legalese, and I don't know if the user speaks English, so I will have to translate all of this into Mandarin Chinese. I also want to make 100% sure that this picture can get uploaded and not be in a questionable or dubious situation (if that's what the user allows). This is my very first time doing this kind of thing. Exactly how do I word the question to get the user's consent to be "good to use" on the Wuqiu Lighthouse and Wuqiu, Kinmen pages (as well as the Mandarin Chinese Wikipedia's versions of these pages)??? Thanks for any help. Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:15, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for the incredibly constructive advice. I will try both avenues. Thanks! Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:52, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
I missed the PROD for Mike Siegel just a little too late. I created the article many years ago when he was at the height of his career, and am occasionally active here but did not check in this week.
I think a host of the most popular and significant ongoing late night talk radio show, albeit he was only there for a year, deserves to at least go through the AFD process. I would appreciate you restoring it for now. Academic Challenger (talk) 18:26, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ƏXPLICIT 03:43, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Deleted my file
Why exactly did you delete the theatrical poster uploaded as File:Jumanji -- theatrical poster.jpg? The image was the most accurate representation of the article.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 15:49, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- @DisneyMetalhead: Hi, File:Jumanji -- theatrical poster.jpg was deleted in accordance to WP:CSD#F5 because it was not used in article for seven days. Your addition of this image to Jumanji was reverted several times, which led it to being orphaned. I suggest initiating a discussion that article's talk page if you wish to use this particular file there. ƏXPLICIT 02:51, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Deleted article Harike
I wanted to create article Harike which I found had been deleted on 25 June 2017 by your goodself. I am not aware what were the contents earlier. Harike is a large village in Punjab state of India with a population of 8,662.Census 2011. Location 31°09′59″N 74°56′30″E / 31.1663°N 74.9418°E. Please advise if I can go ahead and create appropriate article on the lines of village Wakro created by myself. - Jazze7 (talk) 13:49, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Jazze7: Hi, Harike was previously an unsourced stub article about the Harike Barrage. You are free to create the page about the village. ƏXPLICIT 02:51, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for clarification. I will create the Harike village article. - Jazze7 (talk) 13:30, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Happy Adminship Anniversary!
If you google it actually it doesn't fail criteria, it has sources...♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:56, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Dr. Blofeld: Hi, I'll take this as contesting the page's deletion and have restored the article. You should consider expanding the article to avoid it from being nominated at WP:AFD in the future. ƏXPLICIT 08:38, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Should be OK now, Frood? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:37, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Myname 2nd Single
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Poster
How does an event poster violate non-free image use policy? Wolfmartyn (talk) 18:08, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Wolfmartyn: Hi, a non-free poster is generally allowed in the article about the subject itself, which automatically meets WP:NFCC#8. For example, the use of File:Avengers Endgame poster.jpg in Avengers: Endgame. However, the use of a poster in articles beyond that generally don't satisfy policy. If there was no article about the film, there would be no justification in using it elsewhere and would be deleted. Regarding File:MEC 2016 Rallysprint poster.png, it was being used in the Events section of the Motor Enthusiasts Club article. This poster would be justified it there was an article specifically for the 2016 Mondello Park Rallycross, but as it was being used in a section about the motor club itself. It violated the aforementioned criterion, which led to its deletion. ƏXPLICIT 03:53, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- First of all it is a poster freely available to the public with an intention to distribute it freely to general public and make it available to anyone who want it for free, as such is the intention of a poster - why would usage be restricted by a policy? There are no implications for non-free usage. Secondly, the event was organized by the club, so subject matter specifically relates to the club and its activities, so it is in itself a core of the subject. In Avengers Endgame example, the production studios would be entitled to use the poster as it is their product. I am planning to create more club articles, and a lot of them have posters and other free media created for general public, so it is important to get this issue sorted. Wolfmartyn (talk) 10:30, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Wolfmartyn: All images are presumed copyrighted unless evidence stating otherwise. As such, the use of this poster can only qualify for fair use. However, Wikipedia has created and enforced policies stricter than that doctrine to limit the use of fair use content, particularly concerning non-free media, as the project's goal is to utilize as little copyrighted content as possible. The logo being used in the infobox of Motor Enthusiasts Club is representative of the club, and its use is justified there. One poster of an event from three years ago is not. Unless this poster in particular is subject to critical commentary from sources independent of the club to satisfy the contextual significance criterion listed above, its use can only be justified in an article about the event itself, but not anything outside of that, including that of the club. ƏXPLICIT 09:56, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- It does not make logical sense to me - it is created for public consumption, so I'd think it'd be intentionally void of copyright, but hey it is what it is. As I said before, I'd like to include numerous posters on club pages as they are part of their history, often boasting their showcase function. So if I obtained the written permission from the club (they would ultimately own the poster as the organisers), would that be sufficient? If the answer is yes, where and how I would store the written permission (i.e. the email)? Wolfmartyn (talk) 10:29, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Wolfmartyn: In regards to the automatic copyright of a fixed work, please see Berne Convention.
- The club would be required to release its images under a suitable free license. If that is achieved, they would then need to follow the steps outlined at COM:CONSENT. ƏXPLICIT 10:50, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- It does not make logical sense to me - it is created for public consumption, so I'd think it'd be intentionally void of copyright, but hey it is what it is. As I said before, I'd like to include numerous posters on club pages as they are part of their history, often boasting their showcase function. So if I obtained the written permission from the club (they would ultimately own the poster as the organisers), would that be sufficient? If the answer is yes, where and how I would store the written permission (i.e. the email)? Wolfmartyn (talk) 10:29, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Wolfmartyn: All images are presumed copyrighted unless evidence stating otherwise. As such, the use of this poster can only qualify for fair use. However, Wikipedia has created and enforced policies stricter than that doctrine to limit the use of fair use content, particularly concerning non-free media, as the project's goal is to utilize as little copyrighted content as possible. The logo being used in the infobox of Motor Enthusiasts Club is representative of the club, and its use is justified there. One poster of an event from three years ago is not. Unless this poster in particular is subject to critical commentary from sources independent of the club to satisfy the contextual significance criterion listed above, its use can only be justified in an article about the event itself, but not anything outside of that, including that of the club. ƏXPLICIT 09:56, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- First of all it is a poster freely available to the public with an intention to distribute it freely to general public and make it available to anyone who want it for free, as such is the intention of a poster - why would usage be restricted by a policy? There are no implications for non-free usage. Secondly, the event was organized by the club, so subject matter specifically relates to the club and its activities, so it is in itself a core of the subject. In Avengers Endgame example, the production studios would be entitled to use the poster as it is their product. I am planning to create more club articles, and a lot of them have posters and other free media created for general public, so it is important to get this issue sorted. Wolfmartyn (talk) 10:30, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
The Corrs – Live Japanese cover
Hi. I noticed that you deleted File:CorrsLiveCDJapan200.jpg. As far as I know, alternate covers are permitted, especially in this case as this album is a Japanese-only release; therefore the Japanese cover has encyclopedic value. Thank you! QuestFour (talk) 12:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @QuestFour: Hi, alternate covers generally don't meet the non-free content criteria, especially in cases where the difference between said alternate cover is not significantly different from the main cover as is the case here. Such instances generally don't satisfy the contextual significance criterion. ƏXPLICIT 04:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Please send the text of OpenSync and the page it redirected to
At OpenSync I see:
- 2019-02-14T02:35:59 Explicit talk contribs deleted page OpenSync (G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page) (thank)
OpenSync continues to be in the news, with vigor (e.g. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/11/how-plume-convinces-big-isps-to-use-its-wi-fi-hardware/), and I would like to understand the previous conversation and content related to this article so I can help determine if it is worth reviving. Unfortunately, not only is the previous article deleted, but since it was just a redirect (which is also hidden) I cannot see how to even figure out what the original full page name was and where an RfD discussion might have occurred. Given coverage in multiple outlets and usage on a grand scale now, I think an article is worth reconsidering. Please help me access the original contents so I can help with updates that may be indicated. ★NealMcB★ (talk) 20:24, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Nealmcb: Hi, the original article was OpenSync (software). You can find a copy of the page contents prior to deletion here. ƏXPLICIT 23:42, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Ahh - thank you! I see that article was about the old PIM/KDE/Gnome software, not the new, notable, open source, widely deployed Plume home networking management software Draft:OpenSync (software). ★NealMcB★ (talk) 17:13, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
User:Drmies edits to U-KISS article
Hi,
Thanks again for your previous help by unlinking redirected articles in the U-KISS entry, as well as your ongoing commitment to protecting articles about Korean music.
I just noticed that User:Drmies has made substantial deletions in that U-KISS article. Some of these include removing music genres and concert tours, although similar information is included in the Girls' Generation article, which is classified as a good article. That user doesn't seem to have any expertise in K-pop, so I wondered if you could please assist?
I appreciate any help that you can offer.
Hyuny Bunny (talk) 01:55, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- Hyuny Bunny, what a friendly note. I can't help but wonder how it is that you, who've been here only since September, got so fluent at editing: you're a quick learner! What you didn't notice is that the tours in the Girls' Generation article have both articles and sources. Maybe they shouldn't have articles--but for now they do. Anyway, I will get out of this conversation, to which I wasn't invited anyway. Drmies (talk) 01:59, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
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Image for Popeye the Sailor: The 1940s, Volume 3
Good evening, Explicit.
Please undelete this image for Popeye the Sailor: The 1940s, Volume 3.
Regards and thanks. Wikinesia (talk) 13:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Wikinesia: Done, file restored. ƏXPLICIT 00:09, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
File:David Icke, top right, with the BBC Breakfast Time team, 1983.jpg
Hello, can you tell me which bit of the non-free use policy File:David Icke, top right, with the BBC Breakfast Time team, 1983.jpg violated please. I just want to check if it's due the the recent undiscussed move and reorganisation by another user. Thanks. - X201 (talk) 08:24, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- @X201: Hi, the file was not deleted as a result of the recent page move to Breakfast Time (British TV programme). It was tagged with {{di-missing article links}}. The fair use rationale pointed to David Icke only, but the image was not used there. ƏXPLICIT 07:02, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- OK, not sure how that slipped through the net. Can you restore the file so that I can fix the FUR please. That file has been Breakfast Time for eight years and is a useful identification aid. Thanks. - X201 (talk) 08:29, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- @X201: Done, file restored. ƏXPLICIT 00:09, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- OK, not sure how that slipped through the net. Can you restore the file so that I can fix the FUR please. That file has been Breakfast Time for eight years and is a useful identification aid. Thanks. - X201 (talk) 08:29, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks - X201 (talk) 16:07, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Recently deleted image, now have license, unsure of next step.
Hello, I uploaded the image File:Josh Lafazan Headshot.jpeg, and was waiting from the owner for their creative commons license. Unfortunately, this was only sent last night, and you removed the image prior to that, which I completely understand. What is the best way to go about sending this license? Would you be able to reinstate the image without me reuploading? Please do advise where I should forward that email. Thanks so much! BRES2773 (talk) 13:59, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- @BRES2773: Hi, the best way to proceed is to have the copyright holder of this photo follow the directions laid out at COM:CONSENT. The file can be undeleted once the permission is confirmed. ƏXPLICIT 00:50, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
DYK nomination of M.O.N.T
Hello! Your submission of M.O.N.T at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:37, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, that's a high quality image you took of the group, so I used it for the image slot in Prep 3. I was wondering why you didn't just Photoshop the girl out of the picture altogether, instead of just masking her face? Yoninah (talk) 00:09, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: Hi, I blurred her face solely because of the strict privacy laws around publishing a private citizen's face online in South Korea. I don't possess the Photoshop skills to remove her completely. ƏXPLICIT 05:53, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks. Yoninah (talk) 11:52, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: Hi, I blurred her face solely because of the strict privacy laws around publishing a private citizen's face online in South Korea. I don't possess the Photoshop skills to remove her completely. ƏXPLICIT 05:53, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi,
You have very recently deleted this file I uploaded. I understand why this was done automatically as it was indeed scheduled to be deleted after 29 November because a fellow admin believed it violated WP:NFCCP#8 and it has been 7 days since it was nominated for deletion.
However, the deletion template added to the file said that if I gave a satisfactory explanation as to why I believed the image did satisfy WP:NFCCP#8, the deletion would be prevented. Therefore, I proceeded to add my justification to the file's talk page.
However, I believe my reasoning was not reviewed by the admin (whose username I forget), as I received no feedback and the file has now been deleted without explanation.
I would appreciate if you could facilitate in ensuring that my justification is properly considered.
Thanks,
TurboGUY (talk) 00:48, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- @TurboGUY: Hi, it seems that I missed the commentary of the image in the 2019 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup article as the text was placed at the bottom of the Organisation section, so I didn't expect to find it there. I've restored the file. ƏXPLICIT 01:45, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- No worries. Thanks for resolving this! TurboGUY (talk) 23:47, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Could you temporarily restore
Articles deleted from Template:Arkady and Boris Strugatsky in my userspace or such, I want to transwiki them to the dedicated wikia I've just created. TIA, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:26, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Hi, I've copied the contents of the articles and made them available on Pastebin for one week: Ark Megaforms, Golovans, Humans (Noon Universe), Leoniders, Luden, Tagorians. ƏXPLICIT 07:07, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I copied all of them. Could I also ask for Wanderers (Noon Universe)? I think that's everything. Thanks again! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:14, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Done, here. ƏXPLICIT 00:48, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you; I think I have transwikid all relevant content from Wikipedia to wikia. My only concern is that it has been ~24h since I created that wikia and Google doesn't seem to see it yet... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:14, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Piotrus: Done, here. ƏXPLICIT 00:48, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I copied all of them. Could I also ask for Wanderers (Noon Universe)? I think that's everything. Thanks again! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:14, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
DYK for M.O.N.T
On 6 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article M.O.N.T, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that M.O.N.T (pictured) was the first Korean idol group to film a music video on the disputed Liancourt Rocks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/M.O.N.T. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, M.O.N.T), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Deleted Vonage logo
Hello! I uploaded a new logo for the Vonage article, per Spintendo's instructions as I am a COI editor. I believe I did so correctly but it appears you [have deleted the file.] Can you help me to understand what I may have done wrong? Happy to do again if needed - would you be willing to restore the deleted file? Many thanks! SStankevich (talk) 16:55, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
- @SStankevich: Hi, it appears that File:Vonage logo 2019.png was never added to an article, which led to it being tagged for deletion in accordance with the speedy deletion policy. The logo remained unused for seven days, which resulted in its deletion. ƏXPLICIT 00:16, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
DYK for Myname 2nd Single
On 8 December 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Myname 2nd Single, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Myname's record label was forced to destroy 20,000 CDs of the group's second single album after accidentally including Psy's "Gangnam Style" as its sixth track? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Myname 2nd Single. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Myname 2nd Single), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
--valereee (talk) 00:03, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
Archived deadlink for K-pop Hot 100 chart
Hi Explicit, thanks for catching the citation deadlink, which I missed. I was the one who originally added the info. on the relaunch dates and announcement by Billboard which followed in December 2017. But, in reality, the chart is now no longer available pre-December 30, 2017 [5] either at the Korean webpage [6] or at Billboard.com. [7]. As there was no citation of the May 29, 2017 relaunch, other than mine, which was a primary source, maybe it's best to exclude those dates anyway? I didn't look in Korean, but the English BB article in December 2017 was the only reference to a relaunch, as I can find, and the May date for the Korean site is not given there.
BB moved from Billboard.com/biz/charts to Billboard.com/charts and on September 17, 2019, made most charts (and some articles) only available for subscription users, and unfortunately, dropped several charts entirely and many years charting for some others, even with a subscription. I was a BB Biz subscriber and immediately saw the changes. And even as a new BB Pro subscriber, I can no longer find K-pop Hot 100 prior to December 30, 2017.
It's too bad that the Archives you used to find the deadlink has only 5 captures (only one is for 2017) and a general search for the chart yields a few more captures only, for 2018 and 2019 [8]. I will keep looking and see if any of the older chart from it's original launch in 2011, through 2014, and the missing dates in 2017, can be found, and let you know. I have yet to check archived Billboard hardcopy issues, thru 2016 located at a American Radio Archives link for their BB collection, which also has not been working this week. I also can't remember if the physical copies listed the K-Pop 100 chart. Short of that, Google.books has some copies [9], but not all. Please let me know if you find anything, as well. Sorry rambling, but BB dropping chart information that appeared to be safely documented on their archived charts [10] (and which was referenced multiple times by editors on WP) has been disappointing for me. Thanks again,--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 03:42, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Bonnielou2013: Hi, I was actually the one who added the May relaunch bit to the article. The chart rankings from May 2017 up until their announcement in December are all listed at List of K-pop Hot 100 number ones, and from the links I've sampled, all have been properly archived on the Wayback Machine and are verifiable. It seems like they retroactively decided to mark the chart's official relaunch date as the first week of the chart, as this July 2018 archive link shows that previous weeks were still accessible at the time. It's not clear when they axed the data from May through early December.
- Billboard has been kind of a circus for a few months now, so no one really knows what they are doing and why they are doing to their chart archives. From what I can gather, the pre-December rankings seemed like a soft launch, as they were only posted on Billboard Korea. I don't think removing the content is the right way to address the issue, as we have complete access to those rankings. ƏXPLICIT 09:24, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
Thanks so much for explanation and Archive links for the pre-2017 dates, I'm so glad they were there and I agree with you to leave it and I will leave it on the BB Timeline of K-pop page, too. I'm still catching up with missing chart info. on the BB K-pop lists I cover. The BB/Twitter Real-time old charts were wiped out, but fortunately they were on hard-copy BB issues, I just have to update citations for those individually, and for some other charts that discontinued, but had K-pop data on them. I don't do much with the K-pop 100 chart, except had been surprised to find it was reactived with your update there...then I updated it on the Billboard K-town page. I was also surprised to find some prior BB article citations that I had used had gone BB Pro viewing only. I really don't know what BB is thinking. It's not like the subscriptions could get them that much income...only 10.99 a month for online, and that includes monthly copies of the magazine online, and the magazine archive dates back to the date of purchase. I feel worse using these BB Pro articles, then NYTimes or WSJournal, whose paywalls at least allow a few free article views a month, which should cover readership on WP. Let's see what else BB can come up with...you might enjoy last week's Boxscore they posted last week [11] without the names of the Artists! Oh me...talk to you later!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 10:04, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
deletion restoration request (bot-driven notice to uploader supposedly a PROD deletion)
Can you please restore this deletion? File was removed from article by basically a one-edit vandal, it seems in this change, 18 Nov 2019. File:JohnRadfordBusinessman.png Bot-generated deletion, 3 December 2019. There were no issues until the vandal arrived. I have been off-Wiki and just trawling through watchlist (mostly off nowadays). It was purposely taken by one of his staff who was trying to CoI interfere with edits including uploading images already published, so this was taken at my suggestion, 17 Feb 2016, then uploaded 22 Feb 2016. Note I requested just a simple, small file "a head and shoulders shot on your own 'phone" = low res. If this was at Commons I can't see any reason for it to have been deleted? - not FUR, as was a correct copyright/CC release upload, IIRC. This was supposedly a proposed deletion, but I cannot find it (or any way to search the deletion archive) c:Commons:Deletion requests/Archive/2019/12. When you hide the trail, I can't see any detail to work back from. I vaguely recognise your username and see you are admin now - since when? Thanks.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 16:49, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Rocknrollmancer: Even if freely licensed, media files can still be subject to deletion via WP:PROD under WP:NOTHOST. However, as there is use for this particular image, it has been restored. I have been an admin for a decade now... ƏXPLICIT 00:16, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks - image talk page has been established with reasons. Thanks for the reminder NOTHOST - I have been intending to nom at least one image with obscene gestures, only used at a redundant user Talk page (redundant as exposed for multiple usernames, with only one unblocked but inactive since 2013). I'll get on to it whilst I am here.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 12:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
WP:NOTHOST
I have now located the image I remembered with obscene gestures (mentioned above) - the whole of Gohe007 uploads, c:User:Gohe007/gallery seem to be partying and porn stars. I have viewed a few which have links to non-English wikis. Is there any way to bulk-list all for deletion, or is it necessary to inspect and list individually every File? Also looked quickly at a couple of Categories which also seemed to be of no valid reason. Thank you.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 13:09, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) WP:NOTHOST is a policy that applies to Wikipedia pages, not Commons pages. Commons and Wikipedia are separate projects with their own respective policies and guidelines and although some of them might be similar they are lots of differences as well. Moreover, you are aware that on Wikipedia there's a policy called WP:CENSOR and that even Wikipedia content is not simply deleted because some may find it obscene or offensive. Commons is actually set up to be a webhost of files and other content which can be used on all Wikimedia Foundation projects, and generally any file being used any Wikimedia Foundation project page (even if it's only someone's user page) is considered to be OK per c:COM:INUSE; so, it's going to be pretty hard to convince others that these files should be deleted based on the opinion that they're obscene or inappropriate in some way per c:COM:CENSOR. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:33, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Marchjuly - the original file which brought me here was marked for deletion 15 days after removal from the bio article, leaving no visible trail. From my memory I couldn't be sure where it was hosted, and I didn't know there was such a system in operation on Wikipedia, not unlike where an unused FUR-image is 7-day BOT-deleted. I appreciate the clarification.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 02:28, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Orthosilicic acid
Please revert the deletion of two images from Orthosilicic acid. It is blatantly obvious that all 3 images are from the same source, so the citation in the caption of the first image should suffice. Otherwise there will be 3 citations of the same source in adjacent captions. Petergans (talk) 13:54, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Petergans: Per WP:FCT, you need to provide the source information on each file's description page. As outlined in WP:IUP#RI, you must supply "the URL of an HTML page containing the image". ƏXPLICIT 11:28, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- OK. The bot appears to have removed the pictures also from the history; is that intentional? It means that reversion is impossible. Please restore the images as, in consequence, I don't know how to do it. I will add the citations. Petergans (talk) 20:24, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Petergans: Done, File:Levitus94-10m.gif and File:Levitus94-1000m.gif have been restored. Please update the description page accordingly. ƏXPLICIT 09:32, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- Many thanks. Going back through the history I found that the citations had originally been included, so I was able to restore them easily. Petergans (talk) 19:51, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Petergans: Done, File:Levitus94-10m.gif and File:Levitus94-1000m.gif have been restored. Please update the description page accordingly. ƏXPLICIT 09:32, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- OK. The bot appears to have removed the pictures also from the history; is that intentional? It means that reversion is impossible. Please restore the images as, in consequence, I don't know how to do it. I will add the citations. Petergans (talk) 20:24, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
Good luck
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South Korean article on Wikipedia like US articles ?
I need your reason, Why the South Korean articles on wikipedia use American date Format (MDY Format) like US figures rather than British date format (DMY Format) ? 111.94.241.18 (talk) 08:43, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Requested input
Hey there. I frequently notice you edit K-pop articles, so I'd like to ask for your input to a discussion regarding Ariaz. I attempted to "clean up" the article (in my sandbox so as not to make too bold of an edit without discussion) to find better/more sources and cut down on excess information. I’d appreciate any input you may have to the discussion on the talk page here. Thanks, Alex (talk) 20:33, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Dostarlimab
Does it make sense to restore the deleted page?
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03981796
Whywhenwhohow (talk) 19:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Whywhenwhohow: Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ƏXPLICIT 05:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Deleted article for major political figure
Hi, You removed https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lisa_Bartlett&action=edit&redlink=1 about a year ago, which I just noticed as I was doing updates. Lisa Bartlett is a major player in Southern California Politics and as such, people want to know her history. I don't know what was on the page before, but if you restore it then I can fill in the gaps. Please let me know. Smga3000 (talk) 00:01, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Smga3000: Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ƏXPLICIT 05:33, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
WAM 2019 Postcard
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West Curry
Hi, Please could you restore West Curry which was deleted via PROD. I intend to write an article about this hamlet as it was recorded in the Domesday Book here (it has had various names). These two sources are sufficient to pass WP:GEOLAND. I wouldn't have considered this without coming across what is now a redlink, so the contribution of the article creator should be acknowledged in the history of the new article. Thanks ----Pontificalibus 08:26, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Pontificalibus: Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ƏXPLICIT 23:14, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
2019 Inkigayo winners
Oh My Girl also won their first-ever Inkigayo trophy in 2019, it is missing in the lead, but I cannot find a source confiriming this. Snowflake91 (talk) 10:37, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Snowflake91: It was already mentioned in the source on the list, but I found a separate source that mentions the record-setting span between debut and a public broadcast music show award, so I've added that to the lead as well. ƏXPLICIT 11:23, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Socialpoint 2008 logo.png
Hi Explicit. You recently deleted the file File:Socialpoint 2008 logo.png under F7. I reckon there were no issues with license templates, as I use the same for all my logo uploads. Had there been an issue, surely this issue could have been corrected. I was also not notified of a potential deletion. Could you clarify? Lordtobi (✉) 09:22, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Lordtobi: Hi, File:Socialpoint 2008 logo.png was nominated for deletion with the following rationale: "Does not satisfy WP:NFCC#8. The image is not used as the primary means of visual identification. The use of historical logos for an entity is not allowed, unless the historical logo itself is described in the context of critical commentary about that historical logo." Former logos of entities used in the body of an article, as opposed to the main logo in an article's infobox, rarely meet the the contextual significance criterion of WP:NFCC. ƏXPLICIT 12:21, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. A smiliar file is available at Commons under c:File:SocialPoint logo 2017.jpg. Would it be possible to retrieve the high-res version of the deleted PNG {the one before it was bot-downsized) and transfer it to Commons under the same licence as the existing file? Lordtobi (✉) 12:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Lordtobi: Done, file now available as File:Socialpoint 2008 logo.png. ƏXPLICIT 01:25, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, this is very helpful. Regards, Lordtobi (✉) 08:26, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Lordtobi: Done, file now available as File:Socialpoint 2008 logo.png. ƏXPLICIT 01:25, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. A smiliar file is available at Commons under c:File:SocialPoint logo 2017.jpg. Would it be possible to retrieve the high-res version of the deleted PNG {the one before it was bot-downsized) and transfer it to Commons under the same licence as the existing file? Lordtobi (✉) 12:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you
Thanks for the heads-up. I fully admit to being flummoxed by the tag in question, and I had no clue how to proceed. Regardless, I very much appreciate the directional assistance! — Kralizec! (talk) 13:28, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi there! I've just noticed you've deleted Alison Thomson. I agree the article didn't do a great job of asserting the subject's notatibility. I created it, and I was never notified that there was a PROD in place, otherwise I would have happily expanded it. This player is notable, and I'm happy to expand the article if you'll please undelete it. Thanks! Dr. Vogel (talk) 18:37, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
- @DrVogel: Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. ƏXPLICIT 04:42, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Sergei Yeremeyev (footballer)
You deleted the page as someone noted that the Russian Professional Football League is no longer fully professional. Does that mean that all players who used to play in that League when it was professional should be deleted now ? Inwind (talk) 06:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, you deleted this file recently for failing to meet WP:NFCC, but there had been some discussion earlier on the article talk page (and some edit warring) which seems to have established a local consensus that the image actually does meet criterion #1 due to CGP Grey's personal request to not have his photograph shown on the article, making the stick figure the only appropriate way to represent him. I'm curious to know if you've taken a look at this discussion, since you didn't elaborate on the issue in your edit summary. Ionmars10 (talk) 02:08, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher)Just going to add that further recent discussion about this can be found at User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz#CGP Grey stick figure.png, but that there was prior discussion about the BLP concerns and whether they justified non-free use about three years ago at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 67#NFCC#1 exemptions for BLP privacy reasons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:33, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- And even more discussion at Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#File:CGP_Grey_stick_figure.png, where I've also posted about this. Ionmars10 (talk) 02:40, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Louis Riel Memorial media file deletions
I am pleased to learn you found free image equivalents of the images in question. I humbly ask that you let me know where they may be found so that I may add them to the Louis Riel Memorial (Nugent) article.ZarhanFastfire (talk) 01:10, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ZarhanFastfire: Hi, WP:NFCC#1 does not require a freely licensed alternative to exist at the moment, but that one can be created in the future. For example, has there been any attempt to contact the MacKenzie Art Gallery directly and ask them if they could possibly supply a photo of the statue under a suitable license? Please see this discussion on how a user managed to get a freely licensed photo of a light tower on a restricted vicinity as an example. ƏXPLICIT 00:31, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
File deletion question
Hello. You recently deleted File:Low_resolution_image_of_advertisement_for_play-by-mail_game_Hyborian_War.jpg. I had clarified the purpose of the file which had been noted to be lacking, but apparently the updated purpose was insufficient. I'm not an expert on non-free use on Wikipedia although I tried reading through the guidelines and following them carefully. The image is of an early advertisement of the game which is the subject of the article. Are advertisements generally off-limits for images on Wikipedia? I wanted to check on this as the deleted image appears to be the only image related to the game in any published print media in the game's 35+ year history. The only other images I've seen are a few from game materials which are not very good. If advertisements with the proper rationale are allowed, I'd appreciate some advice or please point me in the right direction. Thanks for your time. Airborne84 (talk) 04:22, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Airborne84: Hi, File:Low resolution image of advertisement for play-by-mail game Hyborian War.jpg was deleted for violating WP:NFCC#8, the contextual significance criterion. Per WP:NFC#CS: "To identify a subject of discussion, depiction of a prominent aspect of the subject generally suffices, thus only a single item of non-free content meets the criterion." In the case of Hyborian War, that non-free item is File:Hyborian War title from Reality Simulations Inc. Hyborian War web page.gif; its use automatically justified by policy. The inclusion of additional non-free files to the article are typically more difficult to justify, as they would require sourced commentary about the image itself. ƏXPLICIT 00:53, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Thanks for the note. --Airborne84 (talk) 05:56, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
File deletion question 2
Hello, recently you have deleted This file of mine. I may have read through the rules and referred to successful images of the mascots of other sporting events in Wikipedia for upload of images, but I don't know why it was deleted and which of the rules were you referring to. Prior to the deletion of the file, I did everything I could to make the file better, but have no idea in what way I could have misunderstood the rules of file uploading. What can I do to make the file better?--Hongqilim (talk) 10:26, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Hongqilim: Hi, File:2019 Winter Deaflympics mascot.png was deleted for violating WP:NFCC#8, the contextual significance criterion. Per WP:NFC#CS: "To identify a subject of discussion, depiction of a prominent aspect of the subject generally suffices, thus only a single item of non-free content meets the criterion." In the case of 2019 Winter Deaflympics, that non-free item is File:2019 Winter Deaflympics.png; its use automatically justified by policy. The inclusion of additional non-free files to the article are typically more difficult to justify, as they would require sourced commentary about the image itself that sourced text could not adequately convey. The existence of other similar mascot images used in the same manner as the deleted file you uploaded may not necessarily be abiding by policy, either. It's not a relatively good argument for including an image. If there were a separate article for the mascots themselves, as there is for Soohorang and Bandabi, its inclusion would satisfy the aforementioned criterion in that particular article only. ƏXPLICIT 05:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
I see. Thanks for your advice.--Hongqilim (talk) 11:37, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Can a file be nominated for the same speedy deletion criteria after it was previously declined?
Hi, the question in the subject line pretty much sums up my reason for being here. The file in question is File:Celebrity Big Brother 2 Cast.jpg it was nominated for speedy deletion under F7 back in January 2019 and you declined it based on reasoning on the talk page. Here we are a year later and it's been nominated again under the same criteria. Is this aloud? I mean I'd just contest it again under the same reasoning but just wondering if you could take a look at it? Thanks! TheDoctorWho (Happy Christmas!) 02:05, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- @TheDoctorWho: Definitely not, I have reverted the addition of the template. Thanks for pointing this out. I was actually thinking of this particular case when declining the deletion of File:The Circle US season 1, Final 5.jpeg recently, but just couldn't remember where the discussion took place. JJMC89, these reality show cast shots really should be open to discussion to facilitate input from the community at large. ƏXPLICIT 06:50, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! Given your opinion/suggestion the case be the same at File:Love Island USA 1 Finalists.jpg right (same criteria)? TheDoctorWho (Happy Christmas!) 16:27, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Q re deleted img
You deleted File:Aircraft 11-9358, 11 March 2019, Bart Hoekstra.jpg claiming it failed criterion #1. This is not the case. No free image of the actual aircraft exists, and one cannot now be created as the aircraft in question has been destroyed. Permission was given for the image to be use, and it was correctly templated. Mjroots (talk) 07:36, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Hi Mjroots. WP:F7 is a speedy deletion criterion that is applied to non-free content, and copyright holder permission is not required for non-free content; it can be courteous to ask for such permission for sure, but it's not required per Wikipedia's non-free content use policy and the fact that such permission was granted has nothing to do with WP:NFCC#1 or F7.If the copyright holder, however, is willing to give their WP:CONSENT to have the file released under a free license (see c:COM:L and WP:COPY#Guidelines for images and other media files for more information on this), then the file can probably be restored. Please understand that "CONSENT" in this context means that the copyright holder is essentially agreeing to release a version of the photo under a free license which allows anyone anywhere in the world to download that version at anytime and then use for any purpose, including commercial and derivative use; moreover, the types of free licenses that Wikipedia accepts are non-revocable. So, if the copyright holder is willing to agree to all of this, please take a look at c:COM:OTRS for information on how they can express their CONSENT to do so; the most typical way is for the copyright holder to email Wikimedia OTRS, but there are other ways as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:26, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Mjroots: Hi, if I'm understanding your argument correctly, File:Aircraft 11-9358, 11 March 2019, Bart Hoekstra.jpg and File:BACN of the U.S. Air Force at Kandahar International Airport in 2019.jpg depict two different aircraft of the same model—both are USAF Bombardier Global Express E-11A—but the deleted images was specifically the aircraft that was shot down on January 27. If my interpretation is correct, then my application of WP:NFCC#1 here appears to be correct. As stated in WP:FREER, if the answer to the following question is "yes", if violates the aforementioned criterion of the policy: "Can this non-free content be replaced by a free version that has the same effect?" This is further supported by precedence, as similar cases can be found in articles like 2018 Algerian Air Force Ilyushin Il-76 crash, 2017 Myanmar Air Force Shaanxi Y-8 crash, 2014 Algerian Air Force C-130 crash, and so on.
- The file's description page included {{Non-free with permission}}, but this simply satisfies WP:NFCC#2, which was not taken into consideration as it had no affect on the outcome. ƏXPLICIT 11:23, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
May I inquire as to what was invalid about the fair-use claim for this file? GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 21:51, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- @GhostOfDanGurney: Hi, File:Arrow SPM logo.svg was tagged for deletion with the following rationale: "Does not satisfy WP:NFCC#8. The image is not used as the primary means of visual identification. The use of historical logos for an entity is not allowed, unless the historical logo itself is described in the context of sourced critical commentary about that historical logo." As this was used in the body of Arrow McLaren SP and not in the infobox as the main logo, so its use violated the aforementioned policy. ƏXPLICIT 00:12, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for the reply. GhostOfDanGurney (talk) 10:01, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
Deletion review for Substitute holiday
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Substitute holiday. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. C933103 (talk) 18:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
File:Herto,idaltu.jpg
Hi, Can you please bring back the image you deleted, you have deleted the wrong one, the one to remove is the one they renamed with the random numbers name. Dalhoa (talk) 18:18, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Dalhoa: Hi, I'm not seeing a mistake here. File:Herto,idaltu.jpg did not have a valid fair use rationale, it was tagged with {{Di-no fair use rationale}} for seven days, and the file was deleted as a result. What is the other image you're referring to? ƏXPLICIT 02:53, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
- Fair use rationale was provided, the file was then resized because they deemed it too big and they gave the old one a random number name and they stated the old one will be deleted not the new one. Dalhoa (talk) 05:42, 5 February 2020 (UTC)