User talk:Georgewilliamherbert

Hi, I'm George. Feel free to leave me a new message!

User talk:Georgewilliamherbert/Archive2005

My 2005 talk page contents are archived over here.

User talk:Georgewilliamherbert/Archive2006-1

...and the first half of 2006 is archived here

User talk:Georgewilliamherbert/Archive2006-2

...and the second half of 2006 is archived here

Defend each other

(see prior [1] and http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?DefendEachOther)

Thanks for your thanks! I saw your note to Lar and your mention of it above reminded me. It's a great idea. Do you want or need any help with it? --Guinnog 05:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Count me in, please. --Guinnog 06:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Added User:Georgewilliamherbert/DefendEachOther - Georgewilliamherbert 00:44, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Bad form

AfD makes it clear that "Consider adding a tag such as {{cleanup}} or {{disputed}} instead; this may be preferable if the article has some useful content." The article in question has no useful content; in fact, one of the sources you just added calls the whole project a "fake." In the future, please do not personalize your objection to an article's AfD, as it is certainly bad form to do so. | Mr. Darcy talk 14:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Commercial vessel template

Hello. As you may know, there are a variety of infobox templates used for ocean liners; at least one of which is ill-suited to passenger vessels. As a consequence of a discussion I had with User:Ebyabe at User_talk:Ebyabe#RMS_Queen_Mary, Ebyabe has generously agreed to create a template for passenger vessels. It appears at Template:Infobox Commercial Ship. Its creator needs assistance with the fields for the template. For example, it will need a tonnage field, but would not need a displacement field. Should beam be moulded breadth, or extreme beam? Should length be pp, or oa? Given your interest and expertise in this area, would you be willing to particpate in the project? If so, go to Template talk:Infobox Commercial Ship and weigh in. It may be that different templates are needed for passenger ships (gt), freighters (dwt, net), containerships (TEU) and that one size will not fit all. Thanks for your interest. Kablammo 21:43, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

thanks

for archiving maru's quotes <3

— User:Adrian/zap2.js 23:03, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Rec.sport.pro-wrestling & related edit-warring

Apologies for coming close to violating WP:3RR. I have reported DXRAW for his actions on the AfD discussion page, as well as for removing fair-use review tags and removing warnings from his talk page. I think he also needs to be counseled/warned by an admin for his insistence on using what he believes is my real name. The Mob Rules 08:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Farahnaz Pahlavi AfD

Hi, thanks for the feedback regarding my posts. What Wikipedia policy or guideline says that my responses have to be two or three sentences? While I am open to the possibility of such a thing being true, I hardly see why I should have to compromise my arguments by restricting their length. Am I the only one you have given this request to? Hardly seems fair, considering that the length of my responses is often related to addressing Agha Nader's also lengthy posts. If I do not try to respond to every one of his arguments, it might seem that I am backing down or avoiding a topic, which I think would be detrimental to the development of ideas in the discussion. Again, thanks, and I hope you can explain to me why my elaborate argumentative style is not appropriate for Wikipedia. The Behnam 17:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

WRLP Tower

Your comment of "leave masts alone" is a bit brief. This one is small; smaller than the building I work in. The only thing I can see that makes it worthy is the claim it's the tallest structure in New Hampshire. I'm willing to leave it alone for that reason; but have added a fact tag. Akihabara 05:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Un-Named Carnival Ship

Hi there, Since you've just removed a {{prod}} tag from Un-Named Carnival Ship, I thought out of courtesy I'd let you know that I've decided to take the article to AfD: you may wish to make your points of view known at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Un-Named Carnival Ship.

Cheers, _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 17:53, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Re-prodding is against procedure

Hi, you re-prodded MasterCraft after I had just de-prodded the article. That is a violation of WP:PROD - if a proposed deletion is contested in any manner, it must be taken to WP:AFD rather than simply re-prod'ding it.

Your claim that it's not notable is somewhat silly, they're one of the top boat manufacturers in the world in terms of volume of boats produced.

The article clearly needs help, but neither PROD nor AFD are substitutes for cleanup tags or working on improving articles yourself. Please do not delete things rather than clean them up and improve them. Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert 04:23, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry; I was unaware it had been proposed for deletion earlier. I will make sure to be more careful in the future. However, notability hasn't been established even though it had been tagged as requiring that for six months... causing me to assume it wasn't notable. However, as said, I will make sure to be more careful in the future, both in regards to earlier proposed deletions and actual notability. Promise. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 08:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Tabulation of data on Embraer E-Jets

Hey Thanks =)

No problem i was just looking around and noticed it needed doing!

Reedy Boy 17:17, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

BRS article

Sorry about that - I never saw your comment there at all when I started my entry. I think we were editing the page at the same time!

Ahunt 12:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

(sic)

Hello there. This aversion to (sic) is new to me - adding it isn't considered making a change to quoted material, which seems to be your objection - the whole point of its existence is to be placed in quoted material, to demonstrate that something which is "wrong" is correctly copied. Can you point me to something that says "don't use (sic) in wikipedia" (and if it does, it's stupid, IMHO!) - DavidWBrooks 23:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Exponent (Math)

You de-prodded this earlier. Wouldn't you say this was already covered by Exponentiation, and the (math) version is more of a lesson in how? RHB ^{Talk - Edits} 00:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Block of User:213.42.21.81 should be renewed

Hm... the one edit is obvious vandalism, the other one I have no idea. I'll add it to the list of things to check a few times daily, and if we see more of the same, will consider re-blocking. Luna Santin 23:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning, as well as for your kind comments accompanying your !vote. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 20:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Agnes Nitt

I didn't block The Bryce, and that's not why I blocked Agnes. Why should I unblock her? Adam Bishop 14:01, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I've unblocked Agnes. I suppose my block was a little over-the-top...hopefully she will not be a nuisance this time. Adam Bishop 20:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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Will "Single user login" work for Meta and Commons?

Will "Single user login" work for Meta and Commons? Also, while I have the same user name on all wikis that I work on (including Wikia which already has single user login for all Wikia.com wikis except MemoryAlpha), I figure many users have different user names for each server. What should I tell them? Will (Talk - contribs) 01:00, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

You need to archive this page

Can I suggest that you look into archiving your talk page? It is one of the longest user talk pages around. Personally, I use User:GeorgeMoney's Auto-Archive system. It has a flaw in that it either archives your entire talk page or nothing at all. However, unlike User:Werdnabot, it requires no bots. Will (Talk - contribs) 01:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I just manually archive, but it had been six months. Fixed. Georgewilliamherbert 01:49, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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I am sorry

I sincerely apologize for bending the rules here. I just got a little frustrated at what happened. Thank you for taking the time at least to settle this matter, I'll be sure to avoid the user RunedChozo in the future. - ZakuSage 02:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

I have filed the previous discussions and some new evidence as a new CheckUser request as discussed here. Asterion^talk 03:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The reports now need to be pre-approved. This is why it is not showing up yet. In the instructions it says you have to save it over the old one but both versions will still be available to search. Off to bed now. Cheers, Asterion^talk 04:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

You were right. I forgot to "advertise" the new CU as an outstanding request. I took care of it this morning and it has been completed with an outcome of "Likely". Regards, Asterion^talk 22:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

D'oh!

Thanks for the fix on Hog Island (California)! Agent 86 20:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll thank you to enforce the rules even-handedly

You conveniently ignore the fact that Giano deleted my comments here and Irpen deleted my comments here. Where were you to defend my rights then? Or do you only defend Giano's rights? --Ideogram 22:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Irpen reverting my edits

Please examine this. Note that Irpen has not attempted to discuss this matter in any way, he is simply revert-warring. --Ideogram 18:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

And this. I'm not going to continue a pointless edit war, but I expect something to be done. --Ideogram 18:54, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I never said I expected the right to make changes unilaterally. I object to his reversion of my edits without attempting to discuss. --Ideogram 19:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

icons used in topology graphics

I love them, and have seen similar ones used in other documentation. Could you tell me where you got them or which application they might belong to? Thanks! --Mespinola 18:44, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Which graphic are you referring to? Thanks... Georgewilliamherbert 21:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

D'oh! This one: 2nodeHAcluster.png --Mespinola 18:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Barred Owl

Thanks for politely insulting me regarding the Barred Owl article, but I noticed it had been vandalized for some time, and when I reverted it someone else did at the same time. But thank you for assuming that I would vandalize an article rather than actually checking to see what I had attempted to do. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.196.101.169 (talk) 00:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

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George,

You obviously didn't bother to read the "content" that I deleted. It read, in toto:

"The hydrogen Bomb doesnt exist actually the explosions were faked by the U.S. government in the 80's. So actually this sux i hate my life go kill yourself or else."

So please get off your high horse. I've got as much right to edit Wikipedia as you do.

Allan

PS Do you want me to put that sentence back in?

==

Please do not delete content from articles on Wikipedia, as you did to Teller-Ulam configuration. If you continue to do so, it may be considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Georgewilliamherbert 03:40, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Proposal

Hellow George, I read your user page and I can see you know about spacecrafts. I want share some ideas about the develop of new ships. I saw your very well done picture of a Medusa spacecraft and think the Nuclear Pulse Propulsion is the way to conquer the Solar´s System planets. Tell me something about this: Interplanetary Spacecraft When NASA would build de Ares V rocket (CaLV), then it would has the possibility of send a manned spacecraft with Nuclear Pulse Propulsion, Medusa named, above the magnetosphere facing the Sun (70000 km up the Earth´s surface). It sounds aggressive but we know there are high level of radiations at this altitude and also the magnetosphere deflect it, avoiding reach the atmosphere. In this place a nuclear-propulsed spacecraft woudn´t affected humans or artificial satellites. One single Ares V could lift a Medusa (60 to 70 tons) to this high elliptical orbit. This spacecraft could reach the moon faster than projected Orion spacecraft. It could descend in the Moon carrying a larger payload, making feasible an intensive colonization, exploration and mining. The ship could return the Earth and landing using an aerobraking shield and small chemical engines. Medusa could carry a large payload of minerals from Moon to Earth. Also this spacecraft could achive the long dreamed manned trip to Mars in a shorter time that current probes do. The advantages of nuclear ships travel in space are huges, they can increase drastically our domains of the Solar System.User:201.220.222.140

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Q clearance badge image

The editor who was removing the badge image emailed me, and I did a brief web search and replied with the following. I certainly could be wrong, and in these post-PATRIOT Act days there might be a special statute or regulation in force, but I don't see any reason to worry about it unless DOE contacts Wikipedia via OTRS or otherwise. Here's what I wrote:

Dear _________:

Thanks for your message. Rather than emailing me, however, it would be better to post your concerns on the Talk page for the Q clearance article. While I do understand that there are security concerns related to replicas and copies of badges, I do not believe that simply presenting images of DOE badges is a sensitive issue or security risk. For example, images of LANL badges appear on LANL's own public web newsletter:

http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/pa/News/122297.html http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/pa/News/062998.html http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/pa/News/010699.html http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/pa/News/031700.html http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/pa/News/010700.html

as well as LLNL's public web site:

http://www.llnl.gov/es_and_h/hsm/doc_20.01/images/image009.gif

In fact, it would probably be more informative to replace or augment the fuzzy image that is there now with one of the samples from the web.

Best regards,

Michael C. Berch (User:MCB)

--MCB 08:27, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the heads-up. I didn't think of the mailing list. I used to be on it, but dropped off due to volume. I found the thread in the archives. I thought Brad had actually weighed in on it already, so was wondering where that was. When I saw the previous I emailed Brad asking him to hold forth in a public place (vs. by private email (i.e, to you, me, the anon editor, etc.) so people could have a crack at it; forgot entirely about wikien-l. I'll probably join & lurk for a while again. I just didn't want it to be a seekrit discussion, or worse yet, disappear into the world of WP:OFFICE. BTW, did you trace the IP range of the anon editor to DOE, NNSA, or a lab? I confess I didn't do a WHOIS, I just ascribed it to an, er, overzealous person. But even though he's making his case in a non-wikipedia-like manner, he could well be right. Well, I'm off to dinner (remember Kabuki-West?)... Thanks, --MCB 03:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC) [edit] Oh, crikey... the IP addr is from DOE. Great. --MCB 03:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah, Kabuki-West... damn, it's been too many years. Have fun with that. Is David Muir Sharnoff still hosting the list?

The two IP addresses the anons were using map back to DOE and NNSA respectively, yeah. It would have been a lot easier to just ignore it if they hadn't... Georgewilliamherbert 03:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the list is hosted on my home server (postmodern.com), but is run by a chap named Bill Stewart. Most of the dinners are in the South Bay, but last night's was in Berkeley and David Sharnoff was indeed there. Cheers, --MCB 03:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Teller-Ulam image

George,

I can assure you that the obnoxious text was on the page, and I did remove it. Cite all the logs you want, but I know what I saw. I guess the one thing upon which we agree is that the figure is good and should be on the page.

I never gave much thought before to removing "content," but I think we need a lot more of that. Outside articles on technical fields, which are often astonishingly good, and an occasional gem, the usefullness of the Wikipedia project is circumscribed severely by an abundance of unsubstantiated and hyperbolical nonsense present on a scale never before known to mankind. So thanks for the idea--I think I'll go on crap removal patrol right now.

Allan

=========================================================

No, you didn't delete that nonsense phrase. What you did is this: [1]

You deleted the Teller-Ulam image off the top. It's rather clear in the article history. The quote you describe was deleted a half-hour earlier by User:Alphachimp in this edit [2].

If you made a mistake, that's one thing, but what you did was delete the image. Please be more careful in the future. Georgewilliamherbert 19:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Dino, Benburch, FAAFA, Arbcom

For the love of all other wikieditors, do NOT discourage the ARbcom option any more. Though the Bayer corporation itself might notice the drop in aspirin sales, the rest of us wouldn't mind the results of the Arbcom. I suspect the decision would be something like 'Nuke 'em all from orbit, it's the only way to be sure'. I can live with that. This is something like the fourth problem between these editors THIS year!!! And it's only Feb! Let em complete their path of MAD. (mutually Assured destruction). The rest of us can get back to editing in peace. (relative peace.) thanks for joining in over at that AN/I, seriously, though. I hope my comments there are making sense to you and others. ThuranX 01:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Tbeatty's frequent deletions of talk comments

Could you possibly ask Tbeatty not to continually delete my talk comments that aren't directed at him with tenuous BLP claims?

I posted the following on the Roskam page regarding the well-documented homophobic breakaway faction of the Episcopal church that Roskam belongs to - and Tbeatty deleted it. He does this on a semi regular basis. Thanks! tbeatty's deletion

• The leader of Roskam's sect, Peter Akinola, supports a Nigerian law that "levies a five-year automatic prison sentence not only on almost every expression of gay identity and sexuality but also on giving advice or support to lesbians or gay men." gay.com This guy is a serious homophobe ! : "UJA, Nigeria, Dec. 20 — The way he tells the story, the first and only time Archbishop Peter J. Akinola knowingly shook a gay person’s hand, he sprang backward the moment he realized what he had done." NYTimes Homophobic Bishop No wonder the Roskamites want to downplay his membership in this sect! - User:Fairness And Accuracy For AllFAAFA 05:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

The only thing that is possibly objectionable is my neologism 'Roskamites' - but he deleted the whole thing. FAAFA 10:16, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Isotope23

"The comment you left on User talk:Isotope23 looks a lot like a threat to me. If that was a misunderstanding, please be a lot more careful in the future. It's at least edging into what would be blockable. Georgewilliamherbert 01:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)"

Well, if it wasn't intended as a threat by me, and wasn't taken as a threat by him, then maybe your best bet would be to kinda stay out of it. I'm NOT threatening you here, just trying to give you some tips on manners, courtesy and etiquette. You're welcome. Space Cadet 14:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Regarding my comments on FR talk

FAAFA: How is posting this not a violation of the terms of the propopsed community ban? Georgewilliamherbert 22:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Er..... 1) it was posted many hours before this ban was ever proposed? 2) Because the ban is still that - a proposal ? (and while I'm suggesting even stronger provisions for all of us - another editor is seeking to have me blocked for a year - or forever - and he can go 'Scot-free') - FAAFA 23:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Conch Republic poll

I've finally gotten around to organising that poll I mentioned some time ago, to try to resolve the impasse concerning the introduction: Talk:Conch_Republic#Poll:_Conch_Republic_Article_introduction --Gene_poole 00:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

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Q clearance

Maybe you didn't read my comment (in Q clearance talk page) but I said that I "may" not know what I am talking about. I was just speaking from the fact that so many people wanted to remove the card picture so I thought there be something more to this. Also, the Wikipedia Signpost identified these "editors" as government officials (you can see the article here) so I decided that there might be something to this. What also alerted me was that the government had removed the ID part from the original picture (see images of Q clerance cards here, you will need to scroll down) that made me even more suspicious. I may have got a little carried away when I removed the image three times. However, when I meant that a terrorist could use the ID I didn't mean in person. I meant through the computer. Also, there are people out there who can decipher numbers (with the right tools) on a blurry image of an ID card. However, I now realize if there was a danger with the image being here Wikipedia would have gotten a call from the U.S. government. So, anyway my point is that I as first was suspicious and now I understand that there is no danger in having the image here. Just wanted to clear that up!--Sportman2 21:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Again, I told you I know having the image here isn't a threat. Please don't tell me I didn't, because I did. Thanks!!--Sportman2 22:35, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Rewritten

May be you didn´t see this. Hellow George, I read your user page and I can see you know about spacecrafts. I want share some ideas about the develop of new ships. I saw your very well done picture of a Medusa spacecraft and think the Nuclear Pulse Propulsion is the way to conquer the Solar´s System planets. Tell me something about this: Interplanetary Spacecraft When NASA would build de Ares V rocket (CaLV), then it would has the possibility of send a manned spacecraft with Nuclear Pulse Propulsion, Medusa named, above the magnetosphere facing the Sun (70000 km up the Earth´s surface). It sounds aggressive but we know there are high level of radiations at this altitude and also the magnetosphere deflect it, avoiding reach the atmosphere. In this place a nuclear-propulsed spacecraft woudn´t affected humans or artificial satellites. One single Ares V could lift a Medusa (60 to 70 tons) to this high elliptical orbit. This spacecraft could reach the moon faster than projected Orion spacecraft. It could descend in the Moon carrying a larger payload, making feasible an intensive colonization, exploration and mining. The ship could return the Earth and landing using an aerobraking shield and small chemical engines. Medusa could carry a large payload of minerals from Moon to Earth. Also this spacecraft could achive the long dreamed manned trip to Mars in a shorter time that current probes do. The advantages of nuclear ships travel in space are huges, they can increase drastically our domains of the Solar System. 00:15, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Carl Steadman

My edit to Carl Steadman was not a joke. I cited all of my sources and yet you are claiming the edit is vandalism, without a single fact to support that claim. The "evidence" produced by Jayvdb was proven false with a few seconds of research (see linked talk page). Please check the facts for yourself before accusing other users of vandalizing articles on subjects which you know nothing about. TVshot 02:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

your RfA

Hello George. I was reading over your RfA, and I have a question for you. Do you still hold to your statement at ArbCom?:
"Posting someone's real life id info online is not a real life attack. A real life attack is being punched or having someone pull a gun or knife on you, or at the very least someone having made a real world information attack such as harrassing phone calls to you, your friends or relatives or employers, etc. It is quite serious to have people going around posting personal details online that you want kept private. But it's not a real life attack. You do not have perspective here."[2]

I would appreciate any context and background you could provide. I did not follow and have not read that whole ArbCom case, and I don't need a lot of details about your interaction with MONGO. What I'm interested in is your definition of "real life". Thank you, Fang Aili ^talk 19:51, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I feel like this all is a bit over my head, so I'm not going to vote at your RfA unless it looks like it's going to be close (then I'll think about it a little more). But it looks like you will probably succeed. Good luck! Cheers, Fang Aili ^talk 14:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Firearms

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User talk:Artistpres

I've unblocked Artistpres. Thanks for the note. — xaosflux ^Talk 03:06, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Your RFA

Hi, I asked you an optional question on your RFA, thought i'd mention it here since it can be easy to miss new questions. Garion96 (talk) 12:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm following up offline with Doc, I will answer it after that's had a chance for some discussion. Reasonable question. Georgewilliamherbert 23:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I supported your RFA, but I'd like an assurance that you won't end up building a temple of hate to Arthur. Guettarda 17:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Arthur has nothing to worry about. The whale, now... Georgewilliamherbert 23:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

• Hey, he's just zis whale, you know... Guy (Help!) 09:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Your note

I just looked at that report again. It seems clear to me that there were 4 reverts, all including the reversion to 'forced'. What am I missing? Crum375 03:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Congratulations!
It is my great pleasure to inform you that your Request for Adminship has closed successfully and you are now an administrator! Useful Links: • Administrators' reading list • Administrators' how-to guide • • Administrator's Noticeboard • Administrator's Noticeboard for Incidents • Administrator's Noticeboard for 3RR • Your admin logs: • blocks • deletions • moves • protects • uploads •

If you have questions, feel free to leave a talk page message for me or any other admin. Again, congratulations! Essjay (Talk) 03:48, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well. Regards, Newyorkbrad 04:00, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Ditto, congrats. The Rambling Man 08:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Good luck. I hope you become a successful administrator. BuickCenturyDriver (Honk, odometer) 09:51, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

You hope he becomes one? :) Have you seen how highly many people think of him? Congratulations George, I'm pleased to see that your RfA has been successful. Based on the opinions of others I trust I'm convinced you'll be (and have been) a valuable asset to the project. To the extent it can help you be an even better contributor, please do continue to consider the concerns raised. - Taxman ^Talk 14:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

This user is an administrator on the English Wikipedia

Awesome! Herewith a gift... Well done, I look forward to even better times working with you. ++Lar: t/c 18:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, and keep up the good work! -- Chris 73 | Talk 23:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XII - February 2007

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Your note about 3RR

Hi George, can you please review this report (copied over from the user's Talk page) and tell me why it is not classical 3RR violation - I realize this block is now effectively moot, but I would like to get your opinion on this anyway for future reference:

Here is another summary, to make it even clearer. Melonbarmonster is disputing his 3RR block on Japanese people. For the benefit of any admins looking at this report, the violation was as follows:

• Version reverted to: 18:04 24 Jan, Melonbar adds the word "forced."
• 1st revert: 17:15, 28 Feb, Melonbar adds the word "forced."
• 2nd revert: 17:26, 28 Feb, Melonbar adds the word "forced."
• 3rd revert: 17:36, 28 Feb, Melonbar adds the word "forced."
• 4th revert: 18:23, 28 Feb, Melonbar adds the word "forced."

Thanks, Crum375 18:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that the first one doesn't count; it was a month prior to the current set of stuff, putting it outside the timeframe 3RR cares about. It's not an edit war if something is going back and forth on a one month timeframe. If he'd changed it back a couple or three days earlier, or even a week earlier, that would be a different issue, but if it was a month ago it shouldn't count. Georgewilliamherbert 19:01, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean by "first one doesn't count; it was a month prior to the current set of stuff, putting it outside the timeframe 3RR cares about". Are you saying that there is a time limit of the 'version reverted to', that demonstrates the editor's preferred version? If so, please point me to it, because I am not aware of it. My understanding was always that the only time limit that counts is the 24 hours during which the 4 edits are made, but I could always be wrong. Crum375 19:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

It's a pretty broad interpretation of 3RR to go back a month and focus down on two or three words, and say that the subsequent change is a revert to the older preferred version. He wasn't simply editing to defend that paragraph; he left it alone in an intermediate edit in mid-Febuary.

The 3RR block exists to stop short-term edit warring, not resolve long term content disagreements. That's what talk pages are for, and both sides here (among other people) are properly using the talk pages to discuss it. Georgewilliamherbert 19:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

As I understand it, and I would love to get input from others here, the intent of the 'version reverted to' is simply to show the editor's preferred version - it itself is not part of an 'edit war'. IOW, assuming his/her opinion about things is fairly stable, that opinion could easily remain the same for months, if not years. It is not strictly needed per WP:3RR, but it is required on the WP:AN3 page to make the reports as clear cut and as conclusive as possible. AFAIK, once you can show the above report, that an editor inserted his favored word (as demonstrated by an older 'version reverted to') into an article four times within 24 hours, each time being reverted by others, it is clear and unambiguous violation of 3RR. I think we really need to nail this one down, regardless of the specific case in point, because I can see it becoming an issue with others in the future. I think we need input from others here. Crum375 20:00, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

George, I'm concerned about your interpretation of the 3RR policy. That the user made exactly the same edit 35 days earlier means that his first restoration of that version on February 28 was a revert. This is as clear an example of a 3RR violation as I've seen in two years of enforcing the policy, so it's a bit worrying that it's being argued over. Perhaps you could continue this discussion on the 3RR talk page, and rather than concentrate on this particular example, discuss the issue of timeframe in general terms. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 20:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I was going to suggest the 3RR policy talk page anyways, but your note arrived before I got back here to answer Crum375's note. Off to Wikipedia talk:Three-revert rule Georgewilliamherbert 20:37, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Could we get a hand at Free Republic?

Could we get a hand from some Admins over at the Free Republic article? I asked for an Admin to weigh in 6 days ago. The specific issue is if a Free Republic rally that they hoped would draw 20,000 people and only drew 100 (AP) to 200 (FR) should have that aspect of the rally mentioned. I say definitely yes - and cite for precedent politician Katherine_Harris#Staff_resignations who had a campaign rally expected to draw 500+. When only 40 people showed up, it made ALL the newspapers and news shows. If 500 people HAD shown up, and she hadn't said or done anything controversial, it would not have been notable, and wouldn't have covered outside of local media. The lack of attendance is what's notable. Same with Free Republic's rally in D.C. Also - if a quote from Natalie Maines should be separated from the body of the text and paragraph and put in the lead to give it extra prominence. Thanks - FaAfA (yap) 02:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)