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Wikipedia Guidelines on NPOV and Pseudoscience

I've added the links below as handy reference for disputes that often arise concerning how to recognize pseudoscience, and how to address pseudoscientific claims in Wikipedia articles.

• Policy: What should be classified as pseudoscience and what should not
• Policy: When not to give equal validity to opposing views
• Policy: How to properly weight minority views vs. majority views
• Policy: Burden of Proof and what to do with unsourced pseudo information
• Policy: Exceptional claims require exceptional sources
• Essay: Scientific Consensus
• Essay: Dealing with Dedicated Fringe Advocates

--Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Alternative treatment for common cold

Dear user, Your recent edit in common cold was reverted, since there was no solid discussion on "Alternative treatment for common cold" on the talk page of this article as you mentioned there is, in your "edit summary". In your edit, you deleted a large section and just claimed that such treatment does not exist. Well, although I may agree with you, but I should mention that we can not just delete a section and add out self idea. The section that you deleted also had references. What you can do, is you add your statement with its citation to the previouse section but please do not delete statements from the articles without a solid discussion. I appreciate your attention Parvazbato59 (talk) 16:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

• I noticed that you discussed it in another article here. This is the problem. One can not address an issue on another article and simply delete a section by addressing it there. But I am sure you were unaware of it. What you can do, is to do the same discussion in the talk page of common cold by opeining a new section and naming it "Alternative treatment for common cold". Then you can modify the text under that section, but still, I insist you can not delete the statements with references, eventhough they are against what we think". I know that alternative treatments maynot be scientific, but as you know, some of the medicines that we use today, come from the common "herbs". Sicnece is not perfect. Thanks Parvazbato59 (talk) 16:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

This comment has been pasted to the common cold talk page where the discussion continues. --Transity (talk) 21:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Interstitial cystitis/painful bladder syndrome

Any time the two of you feel like concentrating on the issue at hand instead of each other would be fine by me. I just collapsed the completely off-topic comments, but if you happened to feel like removing the personal attacks and other unproductive text from your remaining comments, that would be nice. Either striking the text or replacing it with a brief note to that effect might improve the mood of that page. Thank you. - Eldereft (cont.) 15:53, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I've been trying to discuss content all along, I just haven't had much luck. I admit that, at times, I was unable to resist the temptation to respond in kind to the insults that started immediately upon my arrival, and for that I apologize to those stuck reading the off-topic comments. I agree completely with what you've collapsed. Indeed a lot more could be collapsed. If I have the time to do so, I will try to strike out some of my more off-topic statements that still remain. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Complete. There were some spots where striking things would have concealed a substantive point, so I may have left a few things that I otherwise would have removed. It also made me see that, towards the end (the last few days), my frustration was showing a lot more than it had been before. Good exercise. Also the reason I took 12 hours away from the site today. Thanks, Eldereft - I actually didn't realize this was a good - or even acceptable - thing to do. I appreciate the tip, and whether others follow suit or not, I'm glad I did it. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:09, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Ratel has erased your comment on his talk page, and stated that nothing he said on IC/PBS was off-topic. Again, I'm still glad I redacted my off-topic text. But - and I mean this in all sincerity, so please understand these aren't meant as insults, but just observations - I don't know how to deal with someone behaving like Ratel within the parameters of WP. If I sink to their level, that's clearly no good. If I ignore them, I might as well not even try to improve an article with an editor like this "camped out." And I can't spend all my time in WQAs and RfCs - that's both a waste of time, and no fun at all. Do you have any advice? --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, that is much better. I just left a note at the Fringe theories noticeboard that they might be interested in that discussion; hopefully now it will be easier for new editors to get up to speed. WP:TALK#Editing comments covers when and how it can be ok to muck about with the display record. Collapsing off-topic discussions can lead to trouble, but I tried to be as conservative as possible while still having some effect.

Insist that the highest quality sources be strictly followed and try to find compromise wording is unfortunately the best advice I have. Calling in other editors (via RfC or the several noticeboards) can help, especially if those who answer are more interested in the encyclopedia than the POV. This debate is also covered by Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Fringe science, which allows appeal to Arbitration enforcement in some fairly specific circumstances.

Also, sorry for the high level of snarkiness in my opening comment; I had just finished reading that talkpage. Hopefully we all can be a little calmer and more rational from here on in. - Eldereft (cont.) 20:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Eldereft. And don't worry - the snarkiness was appropriate given what you'd just waded through. Hopefully we'll get a few extra eyes on the IC debate, get it settled, and move forward. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 03:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible RfC Regarding Ratel

Hi, Transity - I placed a "final" note on the WQA regarding Ratel, explaining my intention to look into filing an RfC concerning him. I know you've expressed that you don't wish to spend all your time on WQAs and RfCs, but as far as I can see, one user alone can't pursue an RfC against another user. I'm reluctant to ask (or include, unasked) Collect in these proceedings, as his presence seems to distract from the issue of Ratel's behavior; I, myself, may be "poison" to the proceedings at this point, as you are the only user I've thus far encountered who shares my opinion of the ridiculous WP:SPA accusations. I'm also admittedly new here, and despite my aptitude for research (which, as we all know, clearly indicates that I am a sockpuppet), I wouldn't mind a more experienced user or two taking the helm on this. If you agree that Ratel's behavior, his refusal to cooperate in the WQA, and his continued behavior (as evidenced in your further dealings on the IC discussion) require the attention of others, perhaps one or the other of us might be able to find additional users to assist in the filing of the RfC. Feel free to reply here or on my Talk page regarding this issue. (And good luck on the IC Talk page - I'm not sure what more I can do to help matters there, unfortunately.) Scramblecase (talk) 04:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Scramblecase - I've looked through policies to see what is appropriate with regard to this kind of discussion, and I have to say I'm uncertain what's okay and what is not. I have expressed (on the WQA) my observations about Ratel's behavior as well as my interest in a possible RfC, so I believe your comment above to that effect is appropriate. I don't think it's appropriate, though, to try to find other users who might join in on an RfC, as that might constitute a violation of WP:CANVAS. I don't think you meant to suggest anything improper, I just think the policies concerning this are a little vague, especially when it comes to a process like RfC:User where three or more people are required to start the process.

I think we should each decide, on our own, if we feel that proceeding with an RfC is the right way to go. If you decide to do so, I am asking that you please post a friendly notice here letting me know that you have moved forward (as I am an interested party, and as I have expressed interest in that path myself). If you like, if I decide to move forward, I can let you know as well. I also believe it is acceptable to alert other users who have previously debated the subject at hand - in this case, Ratel's behavior. I would look at the WQA to get an idea of who those users might be, as well as possibly the diffs provided in those comments as they might lead to other interested parties who have debated his behavior in a forum other than our recent WQA (again, I think this is an acceptable approach). As a note, I feel that any notification of an RfC should be a general notification to all interested parties, and not just one directed at those who hold opinions similar to your or my own.

So again, please do let me know if you move forward with an RfC, and I will do the same for you (as part of a larger notice to all interested parties). --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:27, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Arcayne has some good advice here. You don't have to solve a problem like Ratel; just succinctly document your efforts and move on. It's okay to leave a mess for another editor else to deal with. Really. Flowanda | Talk 02:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your input, Flowanda. I think I'll give it a go, and try to get back to editing content and actually enjoying myself here. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:45, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

DAB challenge

Bad news. I've been able to restore everyone's points - except yours. You see, my scripts make a list of the most linked-to disambigs at the beginning of each month. Originally, one of the disambigs was LAPD (disambiguation). On May 8, R&B moved that page to LAPD (perfectly good move on his part, BTW) and that confused my scripts to the point they no longer could figure out who fixed what. I can't think of a way to bring those points back.

If it's any consolation, I've had the theme to the Rockford Files stuck in my head all day :) --JaGa^talk 21:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

No worries. The fixes are still made - I just don't have a tally for those changes. Not a big deal at all. In a dynamic environment, things like this are bound to happen. Glad to hear you've got the Rockford Files theme song playing in your head - sorry to confess that's why I picked that example! Cheers. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

RE HealthyED pills

I would like the HealthyED brand to be included in Wikipedia. It has high street retail distribution and is both clinically test and proven. The sale of the raw herb is government controlled and it is processed into pill form under strict UK manufacturing standards. The product helps men overcome a serious condition (Impotence)and greater awareness can only be beneficial to all.

Thanks Steve douglas —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.201.157.246 (talk) 16:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

As I said on your talk page: Welcome to Wikipedia! I see that you've added links on several articles (Butea, Butea superba, and Erectile dysfunction) to a site selling the HealthyEd brand of Butea supplement. Adding links to an article for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam. Please see Wikipedia's policies on spam and particularly the policies on that page concerning link spam for further guidance. In addition to removing these links, I also declined your request for creation of the article titled healthyed for the same reasons. I don't think you are intentionally spamming, but your actions are contrary to the policies above. Thank you.

I see you added the links again to the Butea superba article. Please don't continue to do that as it violates Wikipedia policies, as I described above. Please feel free to add links to reliable sources documenting the effects of Butea in general (see the guidelines on good medical sources), but there's no reason to promote or even mention this particular brand of Butea supplement that I can see. Read the policies that I've linked to here and I think you'll agree. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:07, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism on my talk page

Thanks for reverting that obnoxious vandalism on my talk page. How do I bring in an administrator to deal with the vandal? MarcusMaximus (talk) 17:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem. If it keeps happening (it seems like this guy has made this edit to your talk page three times thus far), revert the vandalism, then warn him on his talk page. I already added a first-level vandalism warning for the one I reverted, as well as a second level personal attack warning. If he does it again, I would suggest that you use a third level warning for vandalism, then a fourth, and if he vandalizes again (after his final warning), have him blocked at the WP:AIV board. You may, of course, skip to a "final warning" if he does it again as his edits are clearly both vandalism and personal attacks (and since the only use of this account has been vandalism), but if you do that, the block request may or may not be honored.

Warning templates can be found at WP:VANDAL#Warnings. To report a vandal to be blocked, go to WP:AIV and use the following template, adding the IP address and links to the vandalism diffs:

{{IPvandal|1.1.1.1}} – IP used solely for repeated vandalism, including <span class="plainlinks">[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_Bison?diff=1111111 1], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_Bison?diff=1111111 2]</span>

If I'm around, I will gladly help you with reporting him if you like. I'll also keep an eye on him as a known vandal. I know it sounds like a big pain in the ass to have to go through in order to stop someone from vandalizing your talk page, but it's the best way to stop the vandalism. Above all, don't let it bother you - these guys are a dime-a-dozen, and their vandalism never lasts long. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Mucho Gratias Amigo

Thank you very much for reverting the rogue edits to my talkpage, it is people like you who keep Wikipedia running. Thank you. --T.M.M. Dowd (talk) 19:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

otitis media with effusion to dyslexia

Unfortunately the other editor who have been repeatedly undoing my work has no idea what Otitis Media is and even less what otitis media with effusion is. The same editor has lso no idea what dyslexia is and so it totoally unqualified to know that about how otitis media with effusion can be a cause of dyslexia. I could be wrong but there has been no evidens over thr last few weeks to prove otherwise, just some personal vendetta for reasons best known to them

dolfrog (talk) 14:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

See discussion and consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dyslexia#RFC. Dolfrog can't/won't accept the strong consensus that his additions of Category:Dyslexia are inappropriate. And I'm getting pretty tired of these personal attacks on my ability to understand topics. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 14:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I get what you're trying to do, dolfrog, but you have to work within the policies of Wikipedia. An article that doesn't mention dyslexia at all and which has no easily discerned connection to dyslexia generally isn't a good candidate for the dyslexia category. And if you just show up and add a seemingly off-topic category to an article (as with Otitis media, which doesn't seem to have anything to do with dyslexia) without so much as a mention on the talk page, it's a good bet it will be reverted. The better approach would be to add information to the article first (assuming you have reliable sources to backup your claims), and then look to add the category if it makes sense.

I just replied to you on the Talk:Otitis media page, and suggested this approach. As I said there, if you've got reliable sources to backup what you're saying, then this should be added to the article. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

The dyslexia project: A new beginning

Hi All

I have added some new sections below which have come from various talk pages in recent days but all realted in some way to the dyslexia project. So I have added them all below, in the hope that we can all begin to add our own input as one person working alone can cause also sorts of problems as can be seen above. I will post a copy of this to all who I think may wish to the new begining of the Dyslexia project and a copy will appear on your individual discussion pages ( I hope you do not mind). The oringinal copy of this can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dyslexia the discusion page of the main project article you will see revise project template, the changes on the tamplate is the addition of a Project pages section, which includes the orinal project pages and the new STAGE TWO page which is hopefuly the new starting point. the STAGE TWO page has the dyslexia article as it is now. And we can tinker with it without changing the actual article itself and discuss and issue we may have before making further changes to the article itself.

dolfrog (talk) 21:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for wordsmith edits. I get these word recall, or word block problems due to my APD , can be very frustrating at times dolfrog (talk) 15:12, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

No worries. Please check both of my changes for content, though. One part in particular didn't read right. I tried to keep the correct meaning, but please make sure I did. It was the part that discussed "discrepancy" tests between IQ and reading level. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

"You have vandalised" message

Dear Transity

Tonight (9 July 2009), I hit my usual link to my watchlist and was told that a) I was not logged on and b) I had a message.

I clicked the 'message' banner first and saw

User talk:91.110.236.64 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[edit]June 2009 Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Common cold. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Transity (talk • contribs) 20:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea what my IP number is (nor how to find out) but it was not I that vandalised Common cold. Having a clear conscience I am unperturbed by your message, which was extremely polite considering the rubbish that had been inserted.

However, either there is a glitch in the Wikipedia system or someone has been able to take over my IP address. Can you suggest anyone who might be able to help with this?

In addition, I imagine that will have now switched off the 'You have a message' banner so the real offender will not get warned (if he/she cares). Any ideas on how to fix this?

Having now logged on for another month, I am able to wish you…..

All the best, Dinoceras (talk) 21:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

(leaving this on your talk page as well) My best guess is that your ISP assigns IP addresses dynamically, and every 1+ days, you get a new IP address from them. At the time the vandalism was taking place, you had a different IP. Today you had this one, and since your autologin had expired, you saw the message left for the IP user from several weeks back. You already have a login, and you will likely have a new IP soon enough, so I wouldn't worry about it. The problem will take care of itself. Cheers! --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 02:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I hadn't realised that IP addresses were habitually reassigned by ISPs. A pity, since it means that the original vandal won't be rebuked. Cheers! Dinoceras (talk) 09:12, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Tereza Elizarova

I've contested the speedy deletion on behalf of the article creator as I've found a NY Times source - see article talk page. Exxolon (talk) 14:56, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Yup, just saw it. The brief mention probably isn't enough to make them notable, but it is enough to reasonably remove the speedy delete tag. I may still AFD it after a while to let others decide if they are notable enough - I'll watch it for now. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:59, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Ghost town articles

I just wanted to mention that I looked at the two articles, Fairbank and Charleston, Arizona, that you requested input on. They both look really good. There hasn't been a lot of activity on the Ghost Town Wikiproject lately and it's good to see new contributions to the project. Keep up the good work!Narthring (talk • contribs) 04:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! The extra eyes are appreciated. I plan to work on more ghost towns in Arizona (probably Harshaw and Mowry next), and if I find more information on Charleston and Fairbank, I'll expand them further as well. Thanks, again. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Geography Barnstar
		For making a decent, referenced, non-stubbed article about Harshaw, Arizona. I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 19:16, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Transity. You have new messages at I dream of horses's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 19:56, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Ounces and tons

There's an old riddle: Which weighs more, a pound of gold or a pound of feathers? Of course they weigh the same. Then, you say, what about an ounce of gold vs. an ounce of feathers? The answer is the gold, because precious metals are traditionally weighed in troy ounces. And as you can see at the ton article, what you refer to as "regular tons" (in the U.S.) are short tons. These things aren't usually spelled out; it's just understood. Fact is, I didn't even know about the tons myself until I was reading the documentation for the {{convert}} template. Good job on Harshaw, Arizona; I hope to see more of your ghost towns contributions. Ntsimp (talk) 00:19, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

MS Productions

I just wanted to note your good work in trying to help the creator of this article; you definitely assumed good faith and tried to help, but I came across the article in the course of assessing another article for speedy deletion and I have to say that I cannot imagine that the article will ever be able to provide any reliable sources that demonstrate any notability. I did a brief search and found nothing whatever that gave me any confidence that the individuals have anything other than a YouTube account and a desire for self-promotion. Nevertheless, you were doing things the way that I would like to do them myself on my better days, and I thought it deserved to be recognized. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, thank you for taking the time to spell out your thought process here. You were right, of course, to re-tag for speedy delete. The author had plenty of time to show reliable sources and notability, and it was time to re-tag (it was on my watchlist, and I likely would have done so shortly). I guess it was the author's willingness to actually engage in a discussion that caused me to assume good faith - most of the time, disputed CSDs are never defended at all, and a willingness to discuss the issues usually makes me want to pause to hear the arguments. Thanks for the nod, and for taking the time to explain why you were doing what you did. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Larry French

I wrote about the wrong person. I meant the CEO of the other Griffon Corp. Both are defense contractors but French is the CEO of the small Griffon, not the large one. Very confusing! User F203 (talk) 22:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, I know I'm confused! Now the page redirects to a baseball player...? My advice would be to work on the page in a sandbox, then publish it when you're ready. Putting it out there as such a short stub (sub-stub, really) makes it hard to see that it should be kept. Thanks. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:29, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

New conversation about issue with the dyslexia articles

Hi, there.

I noticed that you've made changes to the dyslexia article in the not-too-distant past and wanted to solicit your input.

I just started a new conversation on the Wikiproject dyslexia talk page about our attempt to provide a worldwide view in these articles. We could use as many people providing feedback as possible. Please read and respond, if you can.

Thanks!

Rosmoran (talk) 21:55, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Maryjo Adams Cochran

The article Maryjo Adams Cochran has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Page now asserts notability, but proof is needed of notability

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Sorry about the template! Bearian (talk) 18:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

No worries about the template. As the person who added the CSD that is now replaced by this PROD, I appreciate the head's up. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Edge

Hi. Just wanted to drop you a line to make absolutely clear that my decision to take the Edge article off my watchlist had nothing to do with you. It was while investigating the stuff about his directorship with the gaming association that I realised I did not want to be involved. Best of luck! Hope you get some more eyes from BLP. GDallimore (Talk) 13:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I was a little concerned when I saw your comment, and I was wondering if you thought I was trampling on BLP somehow. So I appreciate the note.

Objectively, I understand why you decided to back off. As I said, I found the page doing recent change patrol, as it was in the process of being repeatedly vandalized in the wake of the first report of the Mobigames issue. Since then, there has been a pretty constant stream of everything from waves of simple vandalism, to vandalism plastering Nazi images and text all over the article, to repeated insertions of BLP violations. In addition, the page was a clear vanity page when all this started, so it's been a real challenge getting it into even semi-decent shape.

Subjectively, I sure do need some help, so I'm hoping the BLP notice will at least attract some extra eyes. So far, nothing though.

Thanks for the assistance on the trademark issues. If you see anything else that is simply wrong there, please feel free to drop me a line here if you don't want to get involved with actively editing. Either way, best of luck to you. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Didn't think I could handle the wikistress at the moment :). On the trademark front, I think I corrected the main error which was why I decided to remove the disputed template. Just look out for things like "world trademark", which probably means "trademark rights in many countries". Also, one thing I didn't get around to saying before I vamoosed, be careful using gaming sites as reliable sources for issues of law - they might be reliable about games and gaming news, but that doesn't make them qualified to comment on the legality of ethics of trademark usage/abusage. I think the article could benefit by explaining in more general terms that games developers are angered by his actions rather than picking over all the things that those angry games developers are complaining about. GDallimore (Talk) 15:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll keep an eye out for the "global trademark" text, and also look at a rewrite of some parts of the article, per what you mentioned above. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

It's totally up to you now, that's merely what my next comment on the talk page would have been! GDallimore (Talk) 17:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Understood. That's all I was looking for. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:43, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not spam

Hello Transity. I appreciate your email. I am with an organization that includes nearly 20,000 medical doctors, and as you might imagine, anything we have on our website is reviewed from a medical perspective by specialists in those areas. While I understand your concern that this looks like spam, I promise you that we are not selling anything, but rather help out with areas related to health care by providing peer-reviewed information written in a format for the average patient.

If possible, I would prefer that you email me directly before removing those items at cmoran@pamedsoc.org for a discussion. My concern is that you are removing legitimate information that can help thousands with various health conditions.

Chuck Moran Director Institute for Good Medicine Pennsylvania Medical Society —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuckmoran7 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I have already removed the links that were clearly not acceptable, such as inline links to your site in the text of articles, double links in the refs and the external links, and overly-local statements that didn't belong in the articles. I have left most other links alone, though others have removed some, and others could continue to do so. I urge you to review the guidelines I linked to on your talk page (WP:SPAMMER, WP:SPAMLINKS, WP:COI, WP:BFAQ) as your actions could well constitute spamming, despite the aim of your site. I think you would agree that you desire more hits for your site, and that adding links to Wikipedia would likely mean more hits. Whether or not you are selling something, you are serving your own agenda by adding these promotional links. In addition, there are guidelines for what sources are reliable sources for medical articles. You should review these to see if and when your site passes muster. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Transity ... thanks again for your clarifications.

In your last message you wrote "In addition, there are guidelines for what sources are reliable sources for medical articles. You should review these to see if and when your site passes muster."

At the link you provided was written the following:

"A secondary source in medicine summarizes one or more primary or secondary sources, usually to provide an overview of the current understanding of a medical topic. Literature reviews, systematic review articles and specialist textbooks are examples of secondary sources, as are position statements and literature reviews by major health organizations. A good secondary source from a reputable publisher will be written by an expert in the field and be editorially or peer reviewed. Do not confuse a scientific review (the thing) with peer review (the activity)."

And, also at that link was the following:

"In general, Wikipedia's medical articles should be based upon published, reliable secondary sources whenever possible."

The Pennsylvania Medical Society is the largest health organization in Pennsylvania for physicians. The peer-reviewed information that we publish on our websites falls within Wiki's guidelines for reliable sources of medical articles. Thus I believe it passes muster.

Chuck Moran Director, Institute for Good Medicine Pennsylvania Medical Society —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuckmoran7 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, by "secondary sources" they are referring to "Literature reviews, systematic review articles and specialist textbooks are examples of secondary sources, as are position statements and literature reviews by major health organizations." Major health organizations include "the U.S. National Academies (including the Institute of Medicine and the National Academy of Sciences), the British National Health Service, the U.S. National Institutes of Health (including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), and the World Health Organization." You site doesn't qualify for either, as far as I can see. Your site appears to be more like a less-known version of WebMD. WP:MEDRS has this to say on sites like that: "Press releases, blogs, newsletters, advocacy and self-help publications, and other sources contain a wide range of biomedical information ranging from factual to fraudulent, with a high percentage being of low quality. Peer-reviewed medical information resources such as WebMD and UpToDate can be useful guides about the relevant medical literature and how much weight to give different sources; however, as much as possible Wikipedia articles should cite the literature directly."

I still think you need to review the links I provided more carefully. You are clearly editing with a conflict of interest, and your excessive links are clearly in violation of Wikipedia policies. I urge you to think about that before adding these links again. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:21, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Stay Thirsty Press

There was an error in the blanking of this page. It was not intended. An email was sent to you via the Wikipedia email system with an explanation of this article. If it is not in your Wikipedia email, please let me know and I will resend. I believe this page should not be deleted. Thank you, Srl40214 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Srl40214 (talk • contribs) 01:23, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I did not receive an email, so please either resend, or feel free to reply here or on the article's talk page with your concerns. As of right now, the article is tagged as proposed for deletion, which means it will not be deleted prior to August 10. You are free to either try to improve the article and address the issues that have been raised prior to that date, or you are allowed to simply remove the dated prod tag (leaving the other tags in place), and that will end the request for proposed deletion.

Note that if you remove the prod tag, I will likely nominate as an article for deletion unless you also address the concerns that have been raised.

Either way, I will certainly not tag for speedy delete as it was not your intent to blank the page. Thanks. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:32, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt reply. I will email you tomorrow addressing the issues you raised about this page. Srl40214 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Srl40214 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

This article has been edited to address the issues you raised. Please advise if there are any others that should be addressed. Thank you. Srl40214 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.100.8 (talk) 13:09, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, the issues raised have not been adequately addressed. You added a bunch of non-reliable sources to the article, which doesn't address the need to improve the references or the need to establish notability.

I suggest that you read the following pages so that you can understand why the article doesn't meet the requirements as it is. Start with the general notability guidelines so that you understand what confers notability in general. Then look at the guidelines for notability for companies so that you see what makes a company notable. Also try the FAQ on businesses for some general guidance on writing articles on companies. Finally, read the policies on reliable sources to understand why your sources don't qualify as reliable, and what sources you would need to provide in order to address the issues raised.

Specifically, you are leaning almost exclusively on the website of the company that is the subject of the article which is not a reliable source, and on search results which are not supposed to be used (and which show only hits from the Stay Thirsty site). If these are the only sources you have, then it is likely that the article does not meet notability standards.

If you have something more to add to the article, please do so. Otherwise, I will have to submit for deletion via the Articles for Deletion process. Thanks. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. While we may differ on the notability issue, we understand your position regarding deletion. We will not further object and reserve the right to revisit an article on this subject at a future date when additional secondary sources are available. Thank you. Srl40214 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.100.8 (talk) 17:09, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

You are always free to recreate an article that has been deleted. If, at that time, you have reliable sources that show notability, then that version of the article will likely be kept. That said, I once again urge you to read the FAQ on businesses and the guidelines on conflict of interest. Your comments and the scope of your edits make it sound like you are writing on behalf of this company, and that is strongly discourage on Wikipedia. If your company truly becomes notable, then others will be compelled to write about it. You should seriously consider your motivations before you contribute to articles on subjects that you are directly connected to. Thank you. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Xenos

I think we found the outside sources that you were looking for. . . Take a look. Xenos Christian Fellowship Oldag07 (talk) 14:05, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Oldag07 (talk) 20:29, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Motte (disambiguation)

Hello Transity, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Motte (disambiguation) - a page you tagged - because: Please tell us what to move here using {{db-move|PAGE TO BE MOVED HERE|REASON FOR MOVE}}. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. — Jake Wartenberg 21:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry - I thought I just had to tag for deletion, then complete the move myself. I have re-tagged, in the proper format, with an explanation. In a nutshell, Motte (disambiguation) should be deleted, and Motte should be moved to that page. Then Motte should become a redirect to motte-and-bailey, and motte-and-bailey should have {{Otheruses|Motte (disambiguation)}} added up top. I posted about this on Talk:Motte a few days back, and received no responses. In short, I fixed several hundred DAB links to Motte a few months back, and every one of them meant to direct to motte-and-bailey. In addition, I have watched the page since then, and every added link has followed suit. I think this change will circumvent a lot of DAB links. Thanks. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:52, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Another barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For your work with ghost towns, especially converting Swansea, Arizona from a mess of trivia to a fine-quality article. Nyttend (talk) 22:58, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I've been having a lot of fun working on various Arizona ghost town articles, and I truly appreciate the hat tip. My goal (ridiculous though it may be) is to bring most of the AZ ghost towns from stub to at least start class, and to create a few more articles to fill in existing red links. So far it's the most fun I've had on Wikipedia.

I also wanted to say thanks for providing an always-needed second set of eyes on many of the articles I've worked on. Some of the information on these old towns can be pretty tough to pin down, and it's good to know that I'm not writing in a vacuum. So thank you for the help you've given me. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 02:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for help with Utah ghost towns

Thanks for helping improve "my" articles on Utah ghost towns. I owe you; I'll try to get around to helping out with Arizona. Ntsimp (talk) 18:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

No worries. Besides, you already have been helping out with the articles I've worked on.

I'm trying to add the GNIS ref (and associated information) to the articles I'm looking at in Utah, do some general copy-editing if needed, and I'll take a stab at assessing the unassessed articles as well (which, I think, are all articles you've worked on). If you see anything I change/add/delete that you're not sure about, by all means drop me a line. And if there's anything you'd like me to take a look at, don't hesitate to ask. Thanks. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Zenfolio

Hi Transity, Please teach me how to improve! I do not see anything wrong with it and i have cited the references. Can you please point out which exact word you see as violating WP? I can start fixing from there, and you are also welcome to edit it. Thank you. ESCapade (talk) 03:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm waiting for Kmccoy and Porqin to respond. I plan to invite, one by one, all admins involved in its deletion to reply. Thank you for your warning. I really appreciate it. ESCapade (talk) 04:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, i edit a little. Please comment. Thanks. ESCapade (talk) 12:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Will reply on your talk page. --Transity ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

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Get over it

Your petty obsession with enforcing your views on something you obviously know nothing about. Goodbye. Spritebox (talk) 22:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC)