Talk:Ø (Disambiguation)
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Not a first for Spencer...
[edit]This is NOT the first album that Spencer Chamberlain does clean vocals on. He also did some cleans on Lost in the Sound of Separation. Homie C (talk) 22:31, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well that's obvious, and if you want a further fact, he even did clean vocals even before that. Like on Define the Great Line, just listen to "You're Ever So Inviting". I'm pretty sure he even did a little backing singing on They're Only Chasing Safety too which is the first Underoath album he's been on. Could be wrong, though. • GunMetal Angel 03:03, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Was this album based on the title of a Wikipedia disambiguation page?
[edit]I don't see where else the title could have come from. Was the name of this album based on this page here: Ø (disambiguation)? Jarble (talk) 19:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Not a forum and it annoys me that some editors think it is. GIYF: http://www.guitarmessenger.com/interviews/james-smith-timothy-mctague-interview-underoath/ It does not have anything to do with Wikipedia. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:39, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- It's a question about information that might interest many people. So it is perfectly relevant to ask it here, and even mention it in the article if it were true. 2A00:23C5:FE56:6C01:5C4B:B84D:3215:24D9 (talk) 18:41, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- According to Underøath (in Walter's link), disambiguation was one of the meanings for the Ø symbol. --Love Krittaya (talk) 00:19, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
- It's a totally valid question, as I am shocked that to this day it's not elaborated on the article itself. And I am absolutely convinced (though I don't have any evidence) that the album was named after the Wikipedia disambiguation page. I think it was unintentional, probably a name somebody wrote down as an album idea when they didn't realize what the WP page was actually for. Think about how uncommon a long word like "disambiguation" is in any other context, along with the parenthesis...yeah there's no way this is a coincidence. SnowyCinema (talk) 22:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Jarble: Hey, nearly 12 years later, how's it going? The news article cited says the band claimed "disambiguation was one of the meanings for the actual symbol itself", but uh...nope... that appears to be wrong. I think their team erred in their research—a kind of bad memory with one of the sources (our disambiguation page)—i.e. they found our disambiguation page, and incorrectly labelled it as "a meaning for the symbol" because they didn't understand the workings of Wikipedia or what the page title actually meant. And to be honest, technical illiteracy was rampant in society in the late 2000s up to 2010 as I'm sure you remember, so this is a quite plausible answer to me... SnowyCinema (talk) 10:27, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Rename this page
[edit]Currently, this page has a near identical name with the disambiguation page for the symbol Ø: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98_(disambiguation) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98_(Disambiguation) I wasn't even aware a URL could be case sensitive. Aside from the obvious (ironic) ambiguity, this presents minor technical issues; At least on my system, the browser does not register a change of page between these two and thus Back/Forward are not usable (IE9. Yes, really.)
Maybe either one of these pages could be renamed? "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98_(Disambiguation)(album)" for example. NotFrank 13.17.125.9 (talk) 12:07, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Why? This is the official title of the album and both articles have hatnotes to direct readers to the correct location. Case sensitivity has been a part of http since it was invented. Essentially you're asking us to "fix" this article name because you didn't know something. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:35, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
There was no consensus and no good reason for the move. I moved it back. Walter Görlitz (talk) 02:55, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
The IE9 problem is a legitimate technical issue. Renaming this page to Ø (Disambiguation)(album) might be a good idea for that reason.--¿3family6 contribs 03:19, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- It's a problem with all versions of IE, but it's a technical problem with the way Microsoft handles capitalization and affects more than just this article. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:33, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Requested move 15 January 2019
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 09:14, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
Ø (Disambiguation) → Ø (Disambiguation) (album) – This might easily be mistaken for a disambiguation page. To avoid confusion with Ø (disambiguation), the album article should be disambiguated with "(album)" and "Ø (Disambiguation)" should be redirected to "Ø (disambiguation)". GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 17:02, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- I agree. Gollem (talk) 17:08, 15 January 2019 (UTC) I think the number of opposing reactions here gives a biased view on the question. As fans will be overrepresented. If you want an unbiased impression of the opinion of Wikipedians you should ask this question elsewhere, e.g. village pump or a more suitable general talk page. Gollem (talk) 19:09, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- That comment in itself is biased. I am not a fan of either the band or the album. I am a member of the music project and I have provided valid reasons for opposing the suggestion. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- For the record, you're the only one who responded incorrect to the survey. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:54, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- You shouldn't say "responded incorrectly", you should say that he was the only one who had a different opinion. Yes, we do have consensus on several policies that we are using even now to implement our arguments, but maybe he has a different opinion than the consensus we had to make those policies in the first place. (For the record, I also oppose.) dannymusiceditor oops 02:13, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry for the confusion DannyMusicEditor, I actually meant responded incorrectly which is why I wrote responded incorrectly and not by offering a different survey response, but by incorrectly formatting said response. Offering the response itself, even if it is different than others, is not incorrect. Although moving the article without discussion was a problem. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:39, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- I don't feel like discussing the subject with you like this. First of all because you fail to see my point on bias. I never said you are biased or anyone else here, but that the number of oppose responses is biased. Secondly because you violate the Wikipedia guidelines for discussions by making two unconstructive comments: unfundedly accusing me of being biased and irrelevantly accusing me of incorrect formatting without explaining what's wrong with it. Please, move the discussion elsewhere, change your tone and we can talk. Gollem (talk) 07:35, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- This is the place to talk. I don't know what your problem is, but people opposing this is no a sign of bias, it's a sign of WP:CONSENSUS. I'm sorry you don't see that. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:38, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Discussing here is like discussing vegetarianism with the people in the street in front of a butchers shop, where the presence of it's customers will make the number of people who oppose vegetarianism higher than on average in the city. Gollem (talk) 08:06, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- That is the nature of Wikipedia. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. Please just accept that things aren't going your way. (You do know that people are notified to come here and are not necessarily fans of the music, or might just simply be watching the page? You jump to conclusions faster than my ex-girlfriend. There's not an ounce of bias here.) dannymusiceditor oops 16:29, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Discussing here is like discussing vegetarianism with the people in the street in front of a butchers shop, where the presence of it's customers will make the number of people who oppose vegetarianism higher than on average in the city. Gollem (talk) 08:06, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- This is the place to talk. I don't know what your problem is, but people opposing this is no a sign of bias, it's a sign of WP:CONSENSUS. I'm sorry you don't see that. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:38, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- You shouldn't say "responded incorrectly", you should say that he was the only one who had a different opinion. Yes, we do have consensus on several policies that we are using even now to implement our arguments, but maybe he has a different opinion than the consensus we had to make those policies in the first place. (For the record, I also oppose.) dannymusiceditor oops 02:13, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- For the record, you're the only one who responded incorrect to the survey. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:54, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- That comment in itself is biased. I am not a fan of either the band or the album. I am a member of the music project and I have provided valid reasons for opposing the suggestion. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:52, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose current proposal on two grounds:
"Disambiguation" shouldn't be capitalized (i.e. it should be "(disambiguation)"),and oppose the current "double parenthetical" disambiguation scheme... This proposal needs to be revised to deal with these two issues. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:35, 15 January 2019 (UTC)- Oh, I get it... OK, yeah, it's probably fine as is, and a double parenthetical disambiguation scheme should be avoided at all costs... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:10, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Per WP:PRECISE, its unlikely readers will actually look for this and as noted there is a DAB page with the lower case "d" which there is a hatnote there and here. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:50, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Just because we use a term doesn't mean we get to own that term. Every reliable source calls the album Ø (Disambiguation) and so should we. Since there is no other logical target, and a hatnote, this article is in the right place. The actual disambiguator would be located at Ø (disambiguation), as both IJBall and Crouch, Swale stated, and PRECISE is also clear. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:07, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Odd name for an album but I do think the hatnote suffices here. Thanks. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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