Talk:1968 Israeli raid on Lebanon

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NPOV

Not only is this article extremely short, and in need of considerable expansion overall, but there is no way this is balanced. First of all, it was not a raid on Lebanon; it was a raid on airliners being used by the Beirut-based PFLP for "an airborne commando operation," a detail which is not mentioned anywhere in the article. Please expand out this article, detailing the causes, the IDF operation itself, and the costs incurred to the likes of the PFLP. I do think that a rename is also in order - at the very least, change it from "raid on Lebanon" to something less inflamatory and exaggeratory. While "Operation Gift" is the Israeli name, and is therefore not NPOV either, it's not as charged a term as "raid". Or it could be changed to "1968 attacks on El Al" or something like that - El Al, not Israel, for accuracy and a lack of exaggeratory language. Then we can discuss the terrorist actions, and the response. LordAmeth 20:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your information is false. Planes were not used for any „commando operations“, even Israeli sources do not claim that (e.g. [1]). These were regular civilian airplanes, belonging to private arabian airline companies. ghoul 22:49, 27 January 2008 (UTC+02:00) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.164.108.136 (talk)

Copyright violation

At present the article is copied from this IDF page, which is marked "Copyright © 2007 Israel Defense Forces. All rights reserved" at its bottom. As such it is not only plain copyvio, but of a rather boring source :-) --88.153.133.24 16:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The referenced report has been removed from the IDF's site. At present, the bulk of the information in this article is completely unreferenced. The single source that is attached is of little value beyond the quote that I added. What to do with a story that's disappeared and seems to be nearly unverifiable? --Yitzhak1995 (talk) 03:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A quick Google search yields quite a few results, though most are from less than reliable sources. This one and this one, while from non-neutral sources, may prove helpful. ← George^[talk] 04:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move of article name

This article was just mv from 1968 Israeli raid on Lebanon to "Operation Gift", as far as I can see the move was done without any previous discussion. "Operation Gift" is, AFAIK, the Israeli name of the operation. I object to this move: it is a type of sick humour when someone bombs a place and destroyes a dozen planes and calls it a "gift".

Please undo the move.

That is is shorter name: sure, but 100% less informative. That there are other article which still have the Israeli names: sure, but that are several wrongly named articles doesn't justify adding another. Huldra (talk) 23:16, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Sdo216: plese explain the reason for your move of this article?Huldra (talk) 23:34, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved it back, as I did not get any response, Huldra (talk) 20:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The title "1968 Israeli raid on Lebanon" is just wrong, since Israel did not attack Lebanon, but destroyed planes at Beirut airport. And they did not "bomb" the place. They avoided coming into contact with the Lebanese army as much as possible and no one was killed, unlike the terrorist attacks on Israeli aircraft the year before. Sdo216 (talk) 09:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A correct title imho would be: "Destruction of Lebanese civil aircraft at Beirut Airport by Israel in 1968" Sdo216 (talk) 11:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the article was not moved to "1968 Israeli bombing of Lebanon", and Beirut is in Lebanon, and these civilian planes were Lebanese owned, and had NOTHING to do with the attack on the Israeli aircraft the year, AFAIK. It was a spiteful attack on civilians, to call this "a gift" is a sick "humour". A name like "Destruction of Lebanese civil aircraft at Beirut Airport by Israel in 1968" would be correct, but seriously too long. Feel free to made a redir of it, though, Huldra (talk) 23:20, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]