Talk:2008 Noida double murder case

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Untitled[edit]

According to :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BIO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:N#General_notability_guideline

"Presumed" means that substantive coverage in multiple independent reliable sources establishes a presumption, not a guarantee, of notability. Editors may reach a consensus that although a topic meets this criterion, it is not suitable for inclusion. For example, it may violate what Wikipedia is not.

http://news.google.com/news?q=Arushi+Talwar&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

What you get is around 1,323 news stories on this subject, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati (And one of the biggest Political leader of India) have doe a press conference on the Arushi Talwar Murder case. Seniors most police officers handling this case have been demoted. Women and Child Development Minister Renuka Choudhry have announced that ministry will file defamatory case against the Noida police. There is already an ongoing debate over Media trial / Media Harassment seen in this case. India's premier investigating agency CBI have taken over the case.

Anmol.2k4 (talk) 09:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of the most important murder cases of all times. It not only shows the failure of the judicial system in India but also of the declining morality of people. Police force of India's one of the largest states have failed. Its high time that India's police forces be trained in the lines of NYPD or LAPD. All the UP Police have done is harm the image of an innocent and dead 14 year old child. Even after CBI has taken over the case, it has been two weeks and they havent declared a single breakthrough in the case. This article shouldnt be deleted because if the Indian Governement has any shame, it should bring a revolution in its law enforcement bodies.

Arani Chaudhuri —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.121.208 (talk) 03:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

delete huh[edit]

this is not done...wiki people should grow up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.201.41.134 (talk) 07:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

changing topic wont stop it from deletion[edit]

I still see that the murder is only being covered for one person.By changing the title you cannot fool.There is no coverage of the other person murdered and the template only has the arushi's name.It is a npov,Also the article is written in a story as a soap box. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manchurian candidate (talk • contribs) 07:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dude if you think you can improve this article, please do so. As far as "you cannot fool", :| Nobody is here to fool you or anybody else. "changing topic wont stop it from deletion" I don't think that kind of attitude is good for wikipedia. I fail to understand why you are against the existence of this article. Notability of this article have already been debated and in a resounding agreement administrator have closed the debate and moved this article to its current title.Content of the old article have not been changed to reflect its current title, as time goes on people will improve the article (you too can do so). I think this is how things are done here in wikipedia, there is no conspiracy to fool you ;). Anmol.2k4 (talk) 18:42, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fine all i wanted was no bias.By having the tile of arushi's name was my main reasonfor the article to be deleted.As there were 2 persons killed the title is now suitable. manchurian candidate 13:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lets make Wikipedia more inclusive. Let the article be there. It was a High Profile case and it got attention enough to be in Wikipedia. Pls dont delete (Jeevanjoseph1974 (talk) 22:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC))[reply]

need to add criticism section[edit]

First the timeline needs to be trimmed and a criticism section should be made critizing the role of the media for sensationalizing and the police for ill handling and Dr Talwar's human rights violations and also including points about revamping the justice system in India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manchurian candidate (talk • contribs) 15:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Latest update is that Talwars are requesting for raw forensic data from CBI so that they can independently get it analyzed by some other expert. And CBI is not giving them raw forensic data, may be to cover its story. ^[1] pekon (talk) 20:23, 14 September 2013 (UTC) pekon[reply]

DELETE THIS ARTICLE[edit]

this topic is not fit to be an article on wikipedia. Just because the media paid unnecessary attention doesn't separate the "Arushi Talwar murder case" from other such cases- she was not a famous personality before the murder, hence she has got no place on wikipedia. Rushikesh ghatpande (talk) 16:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you do not believe that an article meets Wikipedia's notability criteria then you can nominate it for deletion via the articles for deletion process. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 15:01, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to :-

Saran Raj

I think this article is worth keeping as this case will serve as example for Police all over India to improve their response to a crime. It has been half a decade and case remains unsolved. There is much to take from this case. She definitely was not a celebrity but surely India wants to know why and who! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.178.178.37 (talk) 14:45, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can't do much but allways go sad for parents whi saw their fldaughter died in front of then and inspite of finding and punishing the servants or killer police and court find parents guilty and sent them to jail because of cbi internal team fights!!! If parents have'nt done this which i think than what will be the message going to society if similar incident happen again in society!!!!! Lokin1980 (talk) 19:24, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

need to mention at the top that this article is about an ongoing case in Indian courts[edit]

Therefore, this article is documenting 'a current event' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.221.28.171 (talk) 10:38, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well written article . kudos to contributors[edit]

This article is one of the best written online sources of information on this case.

Although the people invoved (victim & family ) are not famous personalities , the agnecies

involved in the investigation are, and the serious lapses commited by them deserve discussion and hence the article deletion argument is invalid.

A possibility exists that two innocent people have been convicted of murder. If that possibility

is true, it is an example of the serious inefficiency of the legal system of the worlds largest

democracy.

There is scope for further improvement of the article .

---Leningrad (talk) 17:21, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Apartment[edit]

This article and numerous news reports refer to a staircase and a door that lead to the terrace where a body was found. The apartment map in the article does not show this door or staircase. These are supposed to be accessible only from within the apartment, but I have no idea where they are supposed to be located. Can someone add this in? Mnair77 (talk) 19:25, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Debate on Age[edit]

She was one week short of becoming 14 years old. She was technically 13. ^[2] Moksh Juneja 09:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hindi movie relesed[edit]

can we add in this artical the recently released hindi movie name `TALVAR' 11:03, 12 October 2015 (UTC) its already mention in column 'In popular culture' please ignore 11:52, 12 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanjay Balotiya (talk • contribs)

Questions[edit]

Did the investigators try to figure out whose palm print was it on the terrace wall? If yes, what was the result? Can the images of the palm print available be still used to compare with the palms of the suspects? Preceding question inappropriately placed in the article by 183.83.64.206 (talk) 07:57, 25 October 2017 (UTC) and transferred to Talk page by Akld guy (talk) 08:37, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Doubtful. The entire crime scene was ruined because the police failed to secure it, so it's unlikely that they would have been able to determine any useful forensic info from that handprint. By the time they even had access to the terrace, dozens of people had been all over the place -- neighbors, the press, etc., so there would be no way to even tell how long it had been there. They couldn't even retrieve any usable fingerprints from inside the house. 12.31.187.178 (talk) 20:02, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

External links edit[edit]

The third link on the main article's External links is not available. "The State of U.P. Through the C.B.I. vs. Rajesh Talwar & Another, the CBI court case that resulted in Talwars' conviction."

The document linked there is missing, can someone update with a correct link? Fragrant (talk) 16:48, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

^ http://www.dnaindia.com/india/1887078/report-aarushi-talwar-murder-case-rajesh-and-nupur-talwars-london-based-witness-to-depose-on-september-16
^ Sahay, Rajeshwari (26 November 2013). "Blog: 'I know Aarushi Talwar'". NDTV. Retrieved 18 March 2014.

please...spell the poor girl's name correctly[edit]

aarushi's name was perfectly spelled in the article. but then, i go to this place, and y'all are spelling her name like "arushi"??? can you STOP it and have some respect? her name is AARUSHI. not ARUSHI. there are TWO As. can you guys read? if she was still alive and simply a wounded victim, then honestly i wouldn't have a problem with all of you misspelling her name. but she's dead. she's not going to be able to say out loud, "hey guys, my name has two As, not just one, thanks very much." give the poor girl some respect and start spelling her name correctly.

that was nitpicking, sorry. but it got on my nerves. it's like none of you all want to respect her. the girl was murdered days before she turned 14. have some shame. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ImlikeTT (talk • contribs) 18:18, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly update the article[edit]

March 8, 2018 - CBI challenges Talwar couple's acquittal in SC http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/63225062.cms

August 10, 2018 - SC admits CBI appeal against acquittal of Talwars http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/65350269.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.43.84.7 (talk) 15:14, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

46.208.236.161's tags[edit]

To the anon who added these tags:

Which specific parts do you think are unnecessary and should be removed? Why?
Which parts do you think should be split into separate articles? Why?
Which parts of the article do you think are not written using encyclopedic tone? Any specific examples?

utcursch | talk 18:27, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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What happened to aarushi talwar[edit]

Aarushi talawar 89.147.166.201 (talk) 16:29, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.dnaindia.com/india/1887078/report-aarushi-talwar-murder-case-rajesh-and-nupur-talwars-london-based-witness-to-depose-on-september-16

[2] Sahay, Rajeshwari (26 November 2013). "Blog: 'I know Aarushi Talwar'". NDTV. Retrieved 18 March 2014.

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