Talk:2012 NBL All-Star Game

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Moved the article to 2012 based on the game as named on the NBL website. And 2012/13 would still be wrong. Wikipedia uses – not a /. Refer 2012–13 NBL season. Past wikipedia practices is not an excuse for poor and/or incorrect editing. If necessary fix the previous articles. --Falcadore (talk) 17:35, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: not moved Number 5 7 19:31, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2012 NBL All-Star Game → 2012–13 NBL All-Star Game – This game was played in December 2012 under 2012–13 NBL season. The all-star game's name must be fit to the season's name. 2004–05 NBL All-Star Game in January 2005, 2006–07 NBL All-Star Game in November 2006 corresponded with their seasons respectively. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 10:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC) Sawol (talk) 10:22, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree with you, but I'm personally not going to argue this because User:Falcadore does raise the point of the NBL themselves officially naming this event the 2012 NBL All-Star Game per here. Also per what Falcadore stated in terms of past wikipedia practices, just because the 2004–05 NBL season's All-Star game was previously under the name of 2004/05 NBL All-Star Game, doesn't mean the 2012–13 season's game has to be. DaHuzyBru (talk) 10:50, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reject: Moving to the nominated alternative title fails Precision component of article WP:NAMINGCRITERIA. We don't invent terminology here. If the game was called 2012 All Star game then that is what the article is called. That the season is called something else is not relevant. --Falcadore (talk) 13:12, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, 2012–13 NBL All-Star Game is sufficiently precise. 2012 NBL All-Star Game is pretty confusing whether it is the all-star game of 2011–12 NBL season or 2012–13 NBL season. Sawol (talk) 02:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I know what you mean i.e. in the infobox for Chris Goulding for example, I have put [[2012 NBL All-Star Game|2013]] to symbolise the 2012–13 season, because if done like [[2012 NBL All-Star Game|2012]], it would seem like he was a 2011–12 All-Star if compared to the NBA or European leagues (not many leagues have All-Star games before the new year). It's a tough one, and it comes down to personal opinion – there's no real correct answer here. DaHuzyBru (talk) 03:58, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, that is not what Precision is about. You are advocating a name you have invented. That is just plain wrong. Where is the source backing the move? --Falcadore (talk) 06:03, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have never invented any terminology. As you say Wikipedia uses – not / in date ranges. Likewise, Wikipedia fits the related articles' names including all-star game to the season's name. Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's official name. Although official names 2014/15 Season and 2012 All-Star Game are used, Wikipedia has selected 2014–15 NBL season and 2012–13 NBL All-Star Game. You are reminded of encyclopedic expression. Sawol (talk) 09:22, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And you are reminded that 2012 NBL All-Star Game was the official name of the event and you are advocating circumventing that because the season article name does not match. IMO that is not sufficient reason. --Falcadore (talk) 14:20, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. There is no consensus or guideline that states that "the all-star game's name must fit the season's name." For example, we have the 2014 NBA All-Star Game article for the 2013–14 NBA season, and the 2014 PBA All-Star Weekend article for the 2013–14 PBA season. So unless there is evidence that "2012–13 NBL All-Star Game" is a more common name, this page should stay as "2012 NBL All-Star Game". Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:57, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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