Talk:Adolph John Paschang

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The Newsletter of the St. James Parish Family. Potosi, Missouri: St. James Catholic Church. 2009-06-19 to 2010-06-19 said that Bishop Paschang was allowed to return to Hong Hong in 1963 (http://stjamespotosi.org/07-12-2009.pdf)

Publications of Bishop Paschang Memorial School indicated that Bishop Paschang was released by the Communist Chinese in 1953.

Yet, archive of the USC digital library wrote that Bishop Paschang was allowed by the Communist Chinese to return to Hong Kong in 1952, for example, the following web page: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search/controller/view/impa-m5119.html?x=1303831073840

Further research is needed in this respect.

On 3 May 2011, Fr Thomas A Peyton advised that it is most plausible Bishop Paschang was released by the Communist Chinese in 1952. Fr Peyton also advised that Bishop Paschang's body was returned to the States where he was buried.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Emkfchan (talk • contribs) 06:24, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

According to the record in the University of Hong Kong library -- "Maryknoll Hong Kong Chronicle" by Fr Jim Smith and Fr William Downs (1978), Bishop Paschang was first expelled into Macau then returned to Hong Kong 0n 9 June 1952. This should be the most authentic record available so far.Poorteacherjacob (talk) 09:30, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Web surfer 183.179.109.44 pasted a “general notability” template to this article.

The following is a web page about the history of Campion High School. It states that Bishop Paschang is an alumnus of that school: http://www.campion-knights.org/History/history79.html/

This is a 2009 newsletter of the St James Parish. In this issue, the martyr reported was Bishop Paschang: http://stjamespotosi.org/07-12-2009.pdf

This is a cutting of a newspaper called Long Beach (California) Press Telegram dated 7 Dec 1951. It reported that Bishop Paschang was kidnapped and a ransom of US$6000 was asked for: http://www.jjonz.us/RadioLogs/pagesnfiles/logs_files_RH/1950s_RH/50-54/1951/51rh_12Dec/51-12-07-(Fri)_%5BLBP%5D.pdf

This is a book called Reference guide to Christian missionary societies in China: from the 16th to the 20th century by R.G. Tiedemann. There was a short description of the work of Bishop Paschang in China: http://books.google.com/books?id=iJtX2qrOl_wC&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq=%22adolph+paschang%22,&source=bl&ots=a8TrbfZWEc&sig=073bqeB1UycSX4BBjvWXPQVLgbo&hl=en&ei=Biq7TZCCLoS-vgOHr5TUBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&sqi=2&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=%22adolph%20paschang%22%2C&f=false

This is a book titled The Chinese Catholic Church in Conflict 1949 – 2001 by Beatrice Leung and William T Liu. There was a short history of the imprisonment and release of Bishop James Edward Walsh and Bishop Adolph John Paschang:: http://books.google.com/books?id=jhItFagifIoC&pg=PA65&lpg=PA65&dq=%22adolph+paschang%22,&source=bl&ots=xlrO2-7237&sig=Gf-y4u1_L3pRqB8FzqEbXaYsLF8&hl=en&ei=Biq7TZCCLoS-vgOHr5TUBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22adolph%20paschang%22%2C&f=false

In addition, Father Peter Barry wrote a dissertation in 1977 when he was in the University of Taiwan. The dissertation is on “Brief history of the missionary work of the Maryknoll in China” and it reported some of the work of Bishop Paschang in China (unluckily there is no web version of this piece of work). Furthermore, there are also files of Bishop Paschang on the University of Southern California Digital Library web site.

Literature on Bishop Paschang is a scarcity today (that why I am compelled to write on his life) and I doubt if I can find more in the near future. In any case, all the above were not authored nor published by the Bishop Paschang Catholic School, nor written by the family of Paschang. I believe they are in line with the requirements of reliable secondary sources.

I hope this is acceptable to the Wiki administrators. Thank you very much!Emkfchan (talk) 09:20, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

They would need to be incorporated into the article and cited as external references in order to count. --Deryck C. 23:06, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Web surfer 183.179.109.44, in anonomity, pasted a “general notability” template to this article. By all means, thanks to his/her remark, this leads us to think about this topic on Bishop Paschang more seriously. I notice that there are also Wiki pages on other Catholic bishops. By this standard, I believe Bishop Paschang should meet the requirements of “notability”. Hope that the Wiki administrators can further enlighten us on this. Thank you very much in advance.Emkfchan (talk) 09:54, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

By the way, please note that the anonymous web surfer 183.179.104.44 has also pasted this “general notability” template to several articles in English Wiki and Chinse Wiki almost at the same time (22 May 2011 about 14:00):

Roman Catholic Diocese of Jiangmen (posted on 23 May 2011 about 7:00)

zh:天主教江門教區

zh:瑪利諾外方傳教會 (A Chinese article about Maryknoll)

Bishop Paschang Catholic School (posted on 23 May 2011 about 7:00)

zh:柏增主教

zh:庇護十二學校’

Pls note that the first three articles above were not started by me, I only contributed a little information to them recently. Thank you.Emkfchan (talk) 05:53, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I have just compared this page with articles on Bishop John Linus Paschang and Bishop James Edward Walsh in the English Wikipedia. It appears to me that Bishop Adolph John Paschang is no less than these two Bishops when it comes to notability. Hope that the Wiki administrators would give this a favourable consideration. Tons of thanks.Emkfchan (talk) 18:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Simply can't agree with 183.179.109.44 , this Wikipedia page of course meets the notability criteria. To Emkfchan -- you said you "felt compelled" to write on Paschang, instead of tolerating all these groundless accusations, can't you stand up and speak boldy for your cause? Wasn't there any ethics teacher in your school? Didn't they teach you to defend the truth? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.126.68.12 (talk) 05:39, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Thx to the message of 221.126.68.12. It is all my fault -- writing articles not up to the standard of the editors, but thank you for your teaching.Emkfchan (talk) 11:53, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Does the editors of this page know where Paschang was finally buried?Poorteacherjacob (talk) 02:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)