Talk:Adélie penguin
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Requested move
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS to move page, per discussin below. -GTBacchus(talk) 22:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Adelie Penguin → Adélie Penguin — Correct species name contains an acute accent over the first "e." --Uthabiti 06:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC) copied from WP:RM Bobblehead 23:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Survey
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Survey - in support of the move
[edit]Survey - in opposition to the move
[edit]- Oppose. Just another example of a misbelief that just because something can be spelled with non-English characters, it should be spelled with non-English characters on English Wikipedia. Gene Nygaard 20:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose. Exactly what Gene said. Plus 'most common' - 73k hits sans accent - trumps whatever is deemed to be "correct" - 2k hits. 76.22.4.86 00:44, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose using the same argument that Gene Nygaard used. Voretus 20:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose same reasoning as Gene Nygaard.Euge246 (talk) 02:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Discussion
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It is, of course, Pygoscelis adeliae which is the international, language-indepedent version. Gene Nygaard 20:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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So... what happened here? — LlywelynII 13:05, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Ah:
03:06, 7 December 2010 TenPoundHammer (talk | contribs) m . . (8,793 bytes) (0) . . (moved Adelie Penguin to Adélie Penguin: correct spelling, no idea how anyone thought it wasn't) (undo | thank).
Well, there you have it. — LlywelynII 13:08, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- Eh, shucks. Someone jumped the gun; not worth warring over though, I'd say.--Elmidae (talk) 13:31, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- There are NO DIACRITICAL marks in English. This is an English language encyclopedia. You should follow the directive that the article be written in the language of the encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.233.106.215 (talk) 00:02, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Argentinean accents?
[edit]>> Adélie penguins appeared in the film Happy Feet, with Argentinean accents.
Argentinean accents? I don't think so. Their accents were variations on the Chicano style. Very different if you're familiar with both. I've read that Robin Williams has claimed that his accent was supposed to be Argentinean but he's also acknowledged never having been to Argentina. His accent was a little hard to pin down (Williams tends to shift voice a lot, even within the same character) but the supporting Latino voices (Carlos Alazraqui, Johnny Sanchez III, Jeff Garcia and Lombardo Boyar) definitely all sounded distinctly Chicano / East L.A.. Interestingly Carlos was actually born and raised in California by Argentine parents but at least in this role did not sound Argentine at all. Thought I would point this out since Argentines tend to be a bit sensitive to the American tendency to stereotype Latinos.
New 13:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Just drop the "accents" bit entirely - unless you have a movie producer saying "yes, we deliberately went for X accents", it would be sheer speculation on our part. Let's just stick to the verifiable facts. Stan 13:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Penguin habitats
[edit]It is not correct to say that only 2 types of penguin live on the Antarctic mainland. I have observed Gentoo and Chinstraps living on the Antarctic peninsula and the comment should be revised to reflect what is trying to be said acurately. 89.168.41.213 22:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)james Bartosik, james@bartosik.org89.168.41.213 22:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- How do we know you're not making this up? For that matter, we don't even know who you really are. Now if you have a published reference, not just unverifiable anecdotes, we're interested. Stan 02:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I am going to go ahead and change the incorrect statement that Adelie's and emporer are the only 2 penguins living on the mainland. I have been to Antarctica and seen Gentoo's living on the mainland, at many sites. For example: http://bartosik.org/scrapbook/antarctica/paradise-bay.htm . If at some point in the future someone want to come up with a correctly sourced fact with evidence as to which exact species do live on the mainland that can be altered. James Bartosik, 14/08/07.
fact check please
[edit]60-70cm long and only 4 kg? can someone verify that? 71.222.143.231 01:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- That's generally what the sources say. They're still birds, so they're going to be light for their size. Stan 13:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Environmental threats
[edit]Is it true that Adelie penguins are moving closer to the South Pole because their colonies are suffering increased temperatures? Have their numbers been reduced by unusual early season storms that smother their stone nests with snow? Has their rate of breeding declined? Has a huge iceberg broken from the Ross ice shelf blocked access of some Adelie colonies to the sea thus threatening them with starvation? I've read all these things from unverified sources but would like to see some authentic and well-documented scientific discussion of any environmental changes affecting the survival of Adelie penguins. Tez123 03:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC)tez123
Tux the Penquin
[edit]Worth mentioning that he is based upon the adele penguin. It is already in the Tux article...Spacedwarv 15:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Sure, add it under popular culture. Bendž|Ť 15:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Done. If one can think of anything else, add it. Not sure what can be said though..Spacedwarv 16:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Adele?
[edit]I have seen it written Adele, and when searching, it was very confusing yo find that they didn;t have a page on adele penguins. maybe we can make a redirect? --Onceonthisisland 15:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
I just did that myself. --Onceonthisisland 19:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Possible sources from The Antarctic Adelie Penguin
[edit]I don't know if someone wants to investigate those, but they seem the remainder of valuable information from the to-be-merged article:
- http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/research/biodiversity/penguins
- http://www.anarcticconnection.com/antarctic/wildlife/penguins/
I'm going to complete the merge now. --Alvestrand (talk) 07:25, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Lifespan
[edit]Need life expectancy of this species. Badagnani (talk) 05:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
adelie
[edit]Hi in school I am doing an animal fair and I am the Adelie penguin! Did u know that they are the smallest penguin in the world! Emma Guido, 23:47, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
- Congratulations. How did it go? — LlywelynII 13:03, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Mating
[edit]Not currently mentioned, but are they monogamous, serially monogamous, or neither? — LlywelynII 13:03, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Addition of Osmoregulation Section
[edit]I would like to add a section for Osmoregulation in this article. I've posted it here for comments and feedback. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HRCraig (talk • contribs)
Draft
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Osmoregulation[edit]Adélie penguins are faced with extreme osmotic conditions, as their frozen habitats offer little fresh water. Such desert conditions means that the vast majority of the available water is highly saline, causing the diets of Adélie penguins to be highly saline.[1] They manage to circumvent this problem by eating krill with internal concentrations of salt at the lower end of their possible concentrations, helping to lower the amount of ingested salts.[1] The salt load imposed by this sort of diet is still relatively heavy, and can create complications when considering the less tolerant chicks. Adult Adélie penguins feed their chicks by regurgitating the predigested krill, which can impose a heavy salt load on the chicks. Adults address this problem by altering the ion concentrations while the food is still being held in their stomachs. By removing a portion of the sodium and potassium ions, adult Adélie penguins protect their chicks from heavy salt loads[1]. Adélie penguins also manage their salt loads by concentrating cloacal fluids to a much higher degree than most other birds are capable of. This ability is present regardless of ontogeny in Adélie penguins, meaning that both adults and juveniles are capable of extreme levels of salt ion concentration.[1] However, chicks do possess a greater ability to concentrate chloride ions in their cloacal fluids.[1] Salt glands also play a major role in the secretion of excess salts in Adélie penguins. Due to the relatively inefficient kidneys of aquatic birds, the salt gland takes on most of the responsibility of salt removal. Aquatic birds such as the Adélie penguin have highly developed salt glands which are capable of handling their intense salt loads.[2] As a result, the avian salt gland is capable of excreting fluids even more concentrated than seawater through the nares of the bird.[3] Specifically, the salt gland works to pump out and concentrate large quantities of sodium chloride.[3] These excretions are crucial in the maintenance of Antartic ecosystems. Penguin rookeries can be home to thousands of penguins, all of which are concentrating waste products in their digestive tracts and nasal glands.[4] These excretions will inevitably drop to the ground. The concentration of salts and nitrogenous wastes helps to facilitate the flow of material from the sea to the land, serving to make it habitable for bacteria which live in the soils.[4] Notes[edit]
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- Adding this information in some form does sound like a good idea. Regarding the specific draft, I think needs further editing into a more layman friendly language. It probably also should be more concise. Lasting, some areas seem to discuss birds in general rather than the Adélie specifically. This should go onto another page, and linked to from here if appropriate. Regards, CMD (talk) 19:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
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How is this a start class?
[edit]To me, it seems like this is at least a C, maybe a B class.TheLordOfWikis (talk) 12:45, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Ebook
[edit]Of course I agree about it 41.223.119.36 (talk) 18:16, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
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Adélie Success Story
[edit]Adélie penguins were endangered species for a while until they were closely monitored by scientists. Can we put this in there, or no?
My source: How the Penguins Saved Veronica by Hazel Prior. (The book is fictional but is based of a real study.) 2603:6000:B6F0:8BF0:2534:B36:6FC9:D42E (talk) 01:21, 6 October 2023 (UTC)