Talk:Alan Cumming

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Picture[edit]

Can we not find a better pic of him instead of a bad quality picture of him as a character in a film from 13 years ago?

Sexuality[edit]

Yeah he's bi, but do we have to phrase it as "openly" bisexual... makes it sound like its some nasty addiction or something, he's just bisexual, not "openly bisexual", imagine if we had on some other profiles that someone was "openly heterosexual".

I believe that exact statement (openly heterosexual) has previously appeared on the Tom Cruise page. The globetrotter 21:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


Where is the documentation that Alan Cumming is a descendant of Utah Governor Alfred Cumming (1802-1873)? On the contrary, Alan's father was Alex Cumming, a forester at nearby Aberfeldy, Scotland, who lived in Dunkeld and worked on the Atholl Estate. Alan the actor and gay atheist grew up here, and it is believed his father's father and grandfather were Scots. Warren Allen Smith 7 April 2006


Would you care to defend your inclusion of Antonio Banderas, Michael? There are probably hundreds of actors in the Spy Kids movies. Why list this one? If someone is interested in who else had a role, they will go to the articles on the movies and (hopefully) see a more complete, more interesting list. Tuf-Kat

What are you talking about? Mike

This:

see also: Antonio Banderas (in all Spy Kids sequals)

which is improperly formatted and spelled wrong, nor does it have a reasonably logical connection to an article on Alan Cumming. You re-added it after I deleted it, and you re-added it after Goatasaur's re-removed it. Tuf-Kat


I would also like to ask why you keep re-editing the Spy Kids wiki to Spy Kids 1. It's really getting annoying. -- goatasaur


Shouldn't the movies be listed in chronological order rather than reverse chronological order? I know that IMDB does it backwards, but I don't know why we emulate it. -- Someone else 02:38 Mar 30, 2003 (UTC)


yup. there's a Manual of Style thing about it somewhere.... and somewhere on my user page there's a link to a handy script that reverses a list automatically :-) -- Tarquin 12:15 Mar 31, 2003 (UTC)

'High Life' link[edit]

The reference to 'The High Life' leads to a page about something that has nothing to do with the sitcom Cumming was in. I guess that either there needs to be some disambiguation added to the target, which allows it to serve for both the sitcom and its current reference, or the link needs to be altered (for example, to point to IMDb's entry for the show: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108803/).

Metrosexual[edit]

What is 'metrosexual' supposed to say about Alan Cumming? Yes, I know what it means. I'm not sure that the person who put it in knows what it means, and if they do, I'm not sure why it would go in the opening sentence.

I mean, does the David Beckham entry note that he's a "metrosexual" in the opening paragraph (even though he clearly is, by any commonly accepted definition)?

---Alan Cumming is not metrosexual. Metrosexuals are straights who dress well and take care of their skin. Alan Cumming is bisexual, and has mentioned as much in numerous interviews, and on his website.

I am going to put some stuff in about his sexual relationships, cos at the moment the text reads like he just constantly shags whoever he can get hold of, which is not (entirely) true. ---Dave

"...which is not (entirely) true." Ha ha! --DavidShankBone 17:47, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Scottish-American[edit]

I fail to see why Alan Cumming is categorised as a Scottish-American. As far as I am aware or can find out, he is not a naturalised American which makes him simply Scottish. Can anyone justify his inclusion in this category?(Nfras 05:03, 30 November 2005 (UTC))

Best remembered as Nightcrawler?[edit]

I'm sorry, but I find the "best remembered as Nightcrawler" part to be rather questionable. His roles as Boris in Goldeneye, Sandy Frink in Romy and Michele, and Fegan Floop in Spy Kids all come to my mind before Nightcrawler. Nightcrawler's role in X2 was rather minimal, and he is not even going to be returning for X-Men 3.

Agreed. Besides, he's not dead ("Remembered?") and, if anything, his career has only recently begun to take off. In New York he is probably best "known" for his role as the Master of Ceremonies in Cabaret. --DavidShankBone 21:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Exactly. I personally remember him best as the Emcee in the revival of 'Cabaret' on Broadway. Many others will too.

Oh god, he's doing too much![edit]

This is driving me mad, everywhere I turn, there's another film, or a book, or an award (damn, Alan has won an award for virtually every role he's done) a quick documentary he shot in Africa, or another play. I cannot write this article fast enough to keep up with him! I've nominated the article at the Article Creation and Improvement Drive: there isn't enough time in the day for me to write this. *wikistresses* Dev920 23:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


Alan Cumming has been in a LOT of things. I see that Wiki only lists his films in the table at the end of the page. Go to his website, and you will see all of his work. Recently, he was even featured in the History Channel documentary, The Naturalized, which shows him becoming a citizen.Why not make a list of his of all his other work instead of just writing them in random. It doesn't show much of him when you do it that way. Not even his awards are mentioned. Come on, give him the credit he deserves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.136.154.72 (talk) 23:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Category: LGBT rights activists[edit]

Does anyone have any sources for Alan Cumming being specifically involved in LGBT rights rather than just being gay bisexual? I suspect the category (Category: LGBT rights activists) should be removed.-- Ashley VH 08:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

He's not gay. Here you go: http://www.planetout.com/entertainment/interview.html?sernum=1076 Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 09:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Good source but from my reading it does not say he is gay or straight (though his quote "I think it's really important to stand up and be happy for what we've got. But it's really a bad time to be gay in America right now." seems to indicate he is gay). From this article it might be clearer to put Alan under Category:British human rights activists but it is interesting he mentions GLAAD. As the article does not specifically discuss his involvement in (gay) rights activism, I've removed the LGBT rights activists until some sourced description is added (possibly by me in a few days time).-- Ashley VH 10:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Already changed my mind, I've added his being awarded the Vito Russo Award by GLAAD under his personal life. -- Ashley VH 11:18, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
He's not gay because he's bisexual. This is referenced in the article, and the lead section for that matter. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 13:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I agree. My original question was really about his role as a LGBT rights activist rather than his sexuality. I think the GLAAD reference is a sufficient source to keep him in this category.-- Ashley VH 14:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

picture[edit]

There are several pictures with the article but not one as part of the info box (i.e. right up at the top). Can we find a good picture (not too much makeup, we want to be able to recognize him) that we can put there? RJFJR 23:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

The photos can be used for Nightcrawler and Cabaret as they cannot be replaced for those articles due to being fictional characters. They cannot be used for Alan Cumming as a freer picture (i.e. one of him on set or in rehearsals in costume) can be found. It doesn't matter how difficult that is, it is the fact that it could that is important here. (Quentin X 09:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC))

It doesn't matter how you feel about this, it is the fact that you make up rules by yourself. Please don't. --218.176.124.35 14:51, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I've put up a free image and asked a member of WP:LGBT to get a good photo of him next time he sees him. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 15:32, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Flag Icon[edit]

I humbly think it should be the Scottish flag and not the Union Jack in his info box, as is the custom on other bios on Wikipedia for those from different home nations of the UK. Thus: Scotland, not United Kingdom. I cannot find a manual of style on this at present, but have noticed it to be common practice. I'm not making a nationalist statement here. Khirad 04:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

so....if someone is from the Republic of Texas (which used to be a country and still reserves the right to secede and threatens to secede) their flag should be the texas flag and not the U.S. flag? 75.1.48.21 (talk) 08:28, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually Flagicons are deprecated on biographies, they are removed as a course of clean-up. -- Banjeboi 08:31, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Just to add to the Scottish debate. I think the St.Andrews Cross (saltire) flag of Scotland would be favoured by Alan Cumming himself as he has declared his support for the pro independence Scottish National Party (SNP) for the 2011 Scottish Parliament Elections

voice work[edit]

Alan Cumming also provided the voice of the Devil in God, the Devil and Bob which I would suggest is more significant than some of the other things he is 'best known for' listed here. He has also been popular in the UK for a considerable time, long before he did Cabaret in New York. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.205.224.155 (talk) 09:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


Mental breakdown?[edit]

"In 1985, he married Hilary Lyon. However, they divorced in 1993" [Then suddenly, out of the blue --] "following his mental breakdown" -- "His mental breakdown" is mentioned nowhere else in the article. Is this vandalism or just crap editing or what? If the latter, could we please add a line or two on this elsewhere in the article. (And, you know, a cite - Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Sources .) - 201.37.229.117 (talk) 20:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

It may be either "crap contributing" or it could be vandalism. I am not sure either if your comment above is "crap contributing" or just rude. In the future be polite and be bold. Hyacinth (talk) 05:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually my "crap editing", as you put it, was a result of the fact that the source I found (one of the ones I used in Early Life) failed to mention anything other than the fact that he had a mental breakdown while doing Hamlet and the strain this put on their relationship led to its breakup. My apologies that I don't have Alan immediately to hand to ask him the details. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 19:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Love of Almonds[edit]

It is a well known fact that Alan has an extreme love of the Almond nut. It is almost a fetish for him he loves almonds so much. I think this documented fact should be included in the article. 72.255.25.51 (talk) 21:50, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Reliable source for this? -- Banjeboi 02:14, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Alan Cumming is an intactivist? wow! not many celebs have the BALLS to stand up to the Jews and Muslims who cut off part of their kids' genitals for "god"! AMEN Alan! 75.1.48.21 (talk) 08:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for displaying your racism for all to see. AC was talking about routine 'medical/social' circumcision, nothing to do with race or religion... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.155.37.130 (talk) 09:57, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Description of the Max character from L Word[edit]

I fixed an editorialized and non factual description which was reverted. What's up?

  • "...the only regular male character on the show."

What is meant by "regular" in this case? The description I used provides some actual history, and he's definitely not a "regular male", nor the only one. There are many "regular" male characters who have no gender issues at all. Some are straight and some are gay or bisexual. Max is anything but "regular". Filmfluff (talk) 17:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

"Regular" in a TV context is somebody not an occasional guest star. Geez. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 02:15, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

The Cross Identity?[edit]

Wasn't he an assassin in "Bourne Identity"? TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 02:15, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

potential sources[edit]

These dont belong on the main page external link section per WP:EL. If they are reliable sources, someone may wish to incorporate the information into the article. -- The Red Pen of Doom 23:14, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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His Father[edit]

I think someone has misunderstood the info about his abusive father. He claimed later in life that Alan wasn't his son but this wasn't true, it was something he said to hurt him. http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2014/nov/14/alan-cumming-i-never-felt-achieved-enough-always-told-was-nothing

That was me. Thanks for clarifying this. I have the book but haven't read it yet so was confused. I fixed the references. Thanks! - Erika BrillLyle (talk) 14:05, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of content by unregistered user Lakina01[edit]

An unregistered user by the name of Lakina01 has taken it upon themselves to delete content on this page that although I think is well-intentioned, is affecting the entry negatively. They have deleted the fact in the lead that Cumming is Scottish, has deleted early TV work (which I would be happy to verify and source), details on a sketch troupe Cummings was active, deleted Cabaret information, and properly sourced details of WDYTYA as it regarded to his father. I reverted the edits because I honestly thought they were vandalism as they were what seemed to be destructive. Could someone with rights protect the page from unregistered users? BrillLyle (talk) 13:01, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Missing foreskin[edit]

Today, mentions of Cummings' book May the Foreskin Be with You were removed by 79.20.112.252 and User:Jamesofur, claiming that the book doesn't exist. How then are http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/778420035 and ISBN 978-1-936-83339-9, http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13586991-may-the-foreskin-be-with-you, http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/714991682, http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/throsby/alan-cumming/6488022, http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1344719912l/13586991.jpg, etc, explained? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:25, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Victor and Barry[edit]

Why is there nothing about Victor and Barry? There appeared on TV, theater and even panto.. --Crazyseiko (talk) 16:04, 12 July 2016 (UTC) You can even see it here: http://www.alancumming.com/1988/

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