Talk:Arab Spring

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Ongoing?[edit]

Isn't the Arab spring ongoing with both the Syrian and Libyan civil wars?JerrySa1 (talk) 21:15, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

This article highlights the key features of the Arab Spring in each individual country involved and provides a sufficient history and explanation of the term "Arab Spring." Overall, there is a large variety of references including peer reviewed articles as well as typically opposing news sources such as Huffington Post and Al Jazeera. Most viewpoints are represented, however I feel that it lends to a very academic, Western perspective and lacks the perspective of the actual Arabs who lived the experience. For example, this article states that, "As of July 2016, only the uprising in Tunisia resulted in a transition to constitutional democratic governance.[1]" This point is highly contested among many academics and Arabs themselves. It lacks the perspectives of many natives who feel that even though democracy in its truest Western definition of "free and fair elections" may not exist, there has been a lot of progress and improvement in countries such as Egypt. There has been an upward mobility and more freedom than there has ever been in the histories of these countries and the article undermines the significance of that.

Christinatoma (talk) 23:01, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

The Arab Spring as a revolutionary wave had ended around 2012. Some refer to post-2012 civil wars and other developments as Arab Winter.GreyShark (dibra) 21:13, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

the Arab Spring did not end in 2012, although it may have stopped spreading in 2012. Many events and reforms set in motion are ongoing. The Libyan gov't created in the Arab Spring is just now, in late 2016, completing the mop-up of ISIS fighters and consolidation of its rule, for example. So in fact we may yet see a second fully (or mostly) democratic state as a direct result of Arab Spring. There are parallels in other countries. To put in context: The eastern European spring (1989-1991) took place in a relatively neat, compact news-friendly period. In North America, it took 12 years (1775 to 1787) for a revolution to establish a stable government. Others were even more drawn out.

Two years is an artificially short window in which to attribute outcomes to deep multi-national socio-political upheavals - it is more suited to 24 hour news cycles in far-away markets than to events on the ground.User:Jvol10+ years on wiki 22:54, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Statistics[edit]

Hello,

Reading the article, I looked at the reference cited for Yemens casualties in the chart: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/yemen-says-more-than-2000-killed-in-uprising/2012/03/18/gIQAGOtcLS_story.html

Yemen is cited as having 10000+ casualties, the reference article trumpets 2000+. Is something wrong?

Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.227.129.165 (talk) 08:19, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

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Iraq attribution[edit]

I am not an expert, so I am taking no action at this time on my own. But I know of no credible source that lays responsibility, or even correlation of Iraq's current war w/Isis onto the Arab Spring. (roots of that conflict are discussed elsewhere) Iraq may have had minor Arab spring-inspired protests but no credible source attributes any effect on government to these.

This means that information stated on this page about Iraq is simply false.

If we cannot arrive at a unified, documented supportable position in a reasonable period (say, 1 week?), recommend remove references to Iraq from this page entirely until we can. Better to say nothing then to spread falsehood. 10+ years on wiki 22:33, 28 November 2016 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvol (talkcontribs)

Saudi Arabian and Iranian protests of Arab Spring[edit]

how come 2011–12 Saudi Arabian protests is labeled as minor protests(which lasted for 1yr and 24+ people died and more than 100 injuries and arrests) while Iranian Khuzestan Protest is labeled as major protest? 45.116.232.63 (talk) 00:03, 12 February 2017 (UTC)