Talk:Battle of Horseshoe Bend (1814)

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  • Ensured that the article is: within project scope, tagged for task forces, and assessed for class.
  • The article would benefit from: in-text citations. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


I was just curious to know why 1814 exists in the title of this engagement? Was there another Battle of Horseshoe Bend? A reply would be appreciated, thank you.--Az81964444 (talk) 23:18, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

There was. See: Battle of Horseshoe Bend. — ob C. alias ALAROB 22:12, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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Sam Houston?[edit]

Sam Houston fought in this battle, but was he an officer? Bms4880 (talk) 19:42, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Obsolete historical legends[edit]

Stopping by just after the bicentennial of this battle, I'm disappointed to find so much misinformation in this article. Will revise as time permits, but for now:

The Creek War was not a war between Upper and Lower Creeks. The Red Sticks were not allies of the British and Spanish. (The Spanish remained neutral in the War of 1812.) The Creek War was a civil war between disaffected Red Stick rebels and the Creek National Council. Americans attacked the Red Sticks out of fear that they would get British support, and in response to rumors that they had already done so. Militia from Mississippi Territory, Tennessee, and Georgia invaded the Creek Nation several times, aided by Choctaw and Cherokee volunteers.

Andrew Jackson led the campaign that culminated at the Horseshoe. This battle has traditionally been treated as the end of the Creek War, but major conflicts continued, and many Creek rebels migrated to the Spanish Florida provinces, where they joined the Seminoles in resisting Jackson's invasion of West Florida. Horsehoe Bend vaulted Jackson to national fame. It is thought to be the costliest battle in the history of U.S. Indian wars, in terms of the number of native lives lost.

Good sources: Braund (2012), ed., Tohopeka: Rethinking the Creek War and the War of 1812. — Waselkov (2006), A Conquering Spirit: Fort Mims and the Redstick War of 1813-1814 — Martin (1991), Sacred Revolt: The Muskogees' Struggle for a New World — Halbert and Ball (1895), The Creek War of 1813 and 1814. — ob C. alias ALAROB 23:08, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Alarob believes the Red Sticks were NOT allies of the British and Spanish. well no. Let's quote Bruce Johansen and Barry Pritzer (2007). Encyclopedia of American Indian History. ABC-CLIO. p. 247.  "The British and the Red Stick Creeks sought an ally in each other. The British provided supplies to the Red Stick majority to help them defeat the United States and its Creek allies." (and the Spanish governor also provided military supplies.) Rjensen (talk) 02:13, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Battle of Horseshoe Bend (1814)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

the errors and misinterpretations in this page are too many to mention.

if you are interested in this battle, Halbert & Ball's "Creek War of 1813-14" is posted in its entirety online.

if you are interested in a detailed look inside the Muscogee reaction to federal policy, Joel Martin's "Sacred Revolt" is a good beginning point.

Last edited at 14:41, 17 April 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 09:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)