Talk:Brian Morris (biologist)

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this reads like a promotional pamphlet written by brian morris, the article has an incredible amount of unsourced claims and crucially no one has added them in despite citations being requested.

Walabio, in reintroducing the following text, you partially reverted my edit. Can I remind you that we have both been asked not to revert each other while in mediation?

He is controversial because he advocates circumcision despite not being a medical doctor and using the name of the University of Sydney despite the University not advocating his personal views.

I removed this text for several reasons. Firstly, is it Morris himself that is controversial or his views or lobbying? It seems to me that it is the latter. Secondly, this looks like your opinion rather than anything else. Has anyone raised these objections to Morris or his work in print? If not, they ought to be removed.

I hope that you will respond soon. I have not reverted your edit for reasons stated above, but I would appreciate it if you would do so voluntarily while we negotiate over the appropriate wording. I don't want to censor the fact that Morris' work is controversial - only to ensure that the discussion is verifiable and accurate. Jakew 16:06, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

Let us see, he is not medical doctor, but he represents himself as such. Rather than merely include that he works for the University of Sydney in his biography, he goes on and on about him working there in such a way that it implies that he speaks for the university about circumcision, but he no more speaks for the university than one of the Janitors. He claims to be neutral but is obviously biased (that sounds familiar).
Last year, I ran into two members of the Australian Medical Association at a convention of the American College of Pædiatrics. They said that he annoys them with his constant lobbying campaign of letterwriting. They do not take him seriously, because although he is a good Molecular Biologist, he is not a Pædiatric Urologist. They suspect that his fixation might be prurient. Frankly, they believe that he has a screw loose.
Hugh Young wrote a response to Brian Morris. [1]

— Ŭalabio‽ 17:27, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

So what are you saying here? You and two friends of yours disagree with him? Sorry, that's insufficient grounds to insert it into an article. Jakew 12:07, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Those two people are not my friends. I met them only once. They came into the conference from Australia. I merely used them as illustrative examples. Let us forget the example for a minute. Brian Morris writes many letters to the Australian College of Pædiatrics which the society ignores because it is like a plumber trying to change the carpentry-code. He begs questions and takes things out of context. Frankly, his claims are controversial (at odds with the positionstatements of all medical bodies with positionstatements about circumcision) and the just Australian College of Pædiatrics ignores him. His views are controversial.

Jakew, I'm getting a bit concerned about you. It seems you spend a hell of a lot of time picking away at any page on Wikipedia that has anything to do with circumcision. I think it's time you came to terms with your problem. - David. —

— Ŭalabio‽ 01:18, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Undergraduate training[edit]

The article mentioned Morris received "first class honours" as an undergraduate, but fails to mention in what area. This should be made clear. He is not a medical doctor, and any ambiguity that may result in someone mistakenly believing he is (or ever was) should be clarified.

Not noteworthy[edit]

Brian Morris is an ordinary academic at a university. He's not distinguished enough to have his own Wikipedia page. Vote for deletion.

I agree. You have my vote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:38, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Citation needed[edit]

"Because cervical cancer has been found to be much higher in women whose male partner is uncircumcised," It has? How much higher? By whom? Not, for example Castellsagué et al, much cited for this purpose, who found "Male circumcision was associated with a moderate, but nonsignificant, decrease in the risk of cervical cancer in the men's female partners (odds ratio for self-reported circumcision, 0.72; 95 percent confidence interval, 0.49 to 1.04 [i.e. no significance]; odds ratio for clinician-confirmed circumcision, 0.69; 95 percent confidence interval, 0.43 to 1.11 [i.e. even less likelihood of significance])." --Hugh7 (talk) 06:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

This comment about a major relationship with cervical cancer and circumcision has been here far too long without any references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Conflict of interest[edit]

I've tagged this article with a COI because the IP editor and later Professoremeritusbrianmorris have heavily altered the article in such a way as to promote Brian Morris and his views while limiting or removing opposing points of views (not to mention the puffery). This significantly alters the neutrality of this article. I'm logging off for the night, so I'm hoping that the tag will attract other editors who are more familiar with handling this sort of problem and can monitor and/or correct the situation if needed. Robin Hood  (talk) 04:20, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

tag had been removed; i re-added it, and also added connected contributor tag to this page. am watching. Jytdog (talk) 22:56, 23 February 2015 (UTC)