Talk:Cambodia women's national football team

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Cambodia women's national football team/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Rp0211 (talk · contribs) 00:33, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose):
   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references):
   b (citations to reliable sources):
   c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects):
   b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Infobox

• No issues

Lead

• No issues

Background and development

• No issues

Team

• No issues

Youth national teams

• No issues

References

• No issues

After thoroughly reviewing this article, I have concluded that it meets the good article criteria at this time. Keep up the good work that you are doing! Rp0211 ^(talk2me) 00:40, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Cambodia women's national football team/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

I will be reassessing this article to determine whether it still meets the Good Article criteria. Any user is encouraged to assist in improving the article to keep it up to GA standards. Thanks. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:41, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	A few issues here, see below section.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lists are not supposed to be empty, of course, and there are empty lists in the Current squad and recent call-ups sections. Multiple sections are orange-tagged, including the "coaching staff" section, which is empty save for one individual, and the one player listed in the "notable players" section does not give an indication of having any idea when she played for the team. The honours section is totally empty as well. Additionally, I am not convinced that the sections listing results for the Olympics, Women's World Cup, Women's Asian Cup, and Asian Games are necessary given that the team has never so much as entered qualification, much less participated in the tournament proper, in any of the four.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Refs 1 and 39 appear to be the same source, 5 and 6 have tags for permanent dead links, 37 and 38 are in a foreign language but do not have the appropriate language parameter. Refs 19, 20, 28, and 33 were spot checked and all of them resulted in 404 errors, I'm sure they're not the only ones as well.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.	"Home stadium" section is uncited, as is "Head-to-head record" and "Competitive record"
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Earwig gives 31.5% similarity, which I don't have a problem with - majority of identical text is a direct quote
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	It seems as though the youth teams are described more than the senior team itself.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Logo is fair use and stadium image is CC 2.0.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.

Issues with criteria 1a

Lead

• "and is governed by Football Federation of Cambodia" → "and is governed by the Football Federation of Cambodia"
• "and Asian Football Confederation" → "and the Asian Football Confederation"
• "has been slow with football not the most popular women's sport in the country" → "has been slow as football is not the most popular women's sport in the country"
• "nation's first FIFA recognised women's" → add hyphen to "FIFA-recognised"
• "when they played Laos" → link Laos women's national football team
• Last two sentences reference "Festival of Football" and "Football Festival" - are these the same event?

History

• Not entirely sure that the "Background and development" subheader is necessary given that there is no content elsewhere in the section
• Link FIFA in this section since it's only linked in lead before
• Give full name and link of ASEAN
• Is the national association paid in US dollars or is that just a conversion?
• In the second paragraph, "grassroots" is written three times: once as one word and lowercase, once as one word and uppercase, and once as two words and lowercase.
• "Space to play sport is an issue facing all sports in the country" → repetition (emphasis is mine)

Team image

• "Kits and crest" does not describe the crest at all
• sexual exploitation of Nin and Vesna comes out of nowhere and is not expanded upon at all
• "Kauw was a member of the Cambodia women's national under-14 football team in 2011" → who is "Kauw"?
• "Some of the players who participated had never left the country before" → not sure if this is relevant to the topic
• "The team is coached by Sam Schweingruber" → potential tense issue
• Not sure if u13 field dimensions are relevant here

Players

• "The following players were named on 9 September 2021 for the xxx tournament" → placeholder tournament name

See also

• No need to include a redlink here, since you can't "see" that content

Overall review conclusion

WP:GAR states that An individual assessment may be closed after seven days of no activity. As there has been no activity on the review for seven days (with the edits to the article in that period coming just as updates and adding results to fixtures), I am closing the review. My conclusion is that the article fails GA criteria 1a, 1b, 2a, 2c, and 3b at least, and therefore will be delisted. If improvements are made in the future, and the article is brought up to par, it can be renominated for GA. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:44, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Cambodia women's national football team

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Result: GAR ongoing for half a year; closing with no consensus to delist. Major issues have been resolved. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:53, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

My reasons for nomination can be seen at Talk:Cambodia women's national football team/GA2, an individual reassessment that I performed. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:04, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

• Delist per PCN02WPS's individual GAR, particularly their points re:1b/2a/2c/3b. I would actually probably fail this on 3a as well, as there is almost no coverage of, well, the team's actual competitive history now that they've competed in three tournaments. A {{trout}} to Sportsfan77777 for this as well, as these are not reasons why the individual GAR shouldn't be valid: #1/#5 are irrelevant, #2/#3 are contrary to policy, and #4 is untrue (PCN02WPS notified the relevant wikiprojects, and the main contributor is vanished). These GAs were all created in 2012 by the same author who is no longer monitoring them--they're the exact sort of article that a quick individual GAR is best for. Alyo (chat·edits) 15:03, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
  • The article does have editors who regularly update the statistics. You just need someone to put those statistics into prose. It's not a lot to do. We have at the top of GAR instructions: "Do not waste minutes explaining or justifying a problem that you could fix in seconds. GAR is not a forum to shame editors over easily fixed problems." Sportsfan77777 (talk) 01:55, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
• Keep. I fixed the main issues, and updated the recent tournaments the team has played in. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 01:51, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

  @Sportsfan77777 your edits look good and resolve the majority of concerns in my opinion. However, there is the single-sentence section about "Team image". Is there any more information about their public image? Nicknames, fandom, etc? I recognize the difficulty of locating sources in a foreign language, but having that section be so short feels awkward. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:40, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

• Update: as of 9 January, edits by an IP are ongoing, updating the coaching staff section. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:49, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.