Talk:Captain Olimar
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Vfd results
[edit]This article was nominated for deletion. The result was no consensus (tie vote between keep and merge and/or redirect. A merge may be advisable. For details, please see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Captain Olimar. -- BD2412 talk 19:28, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Super Smash Bros Brawl
[edit]Nintendo Power had not revealed who they had polled, as there was no reader poll, causing many to believe that it was a poll taken by employees of Nintendo Power. There's also the fact that Nintendo Power wields no influence whatsoever on Nintendo of Japan, or even very much on Nintendo of America. Many characters were seen on that poll and technically every video game character in existance is a possibility. It's pointless and inaccurate to get people's hopes up. I would like to see Olimar too and I definately think it's possible, but it's definately not worth noting on this page and confirms absolutely nothing.
- I would argue that because their readership is so wide, any poll conducted by Nintendo Power should be mentioned. Besides, we use content, including speculation, from video game magazines all the time. I wouldn't have a problem with some sort of caveat included in the paragraph, but I think that this shows that Captain Olimar is an important figure among Nintendo fans, and information showing notability/popularity is important enough to be included. RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 06:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
They have no actual influence on Nintendo, and they won't reveal the type of people they polled. This is purely speculation without any source whatsoever. If you look at the SSBB page on Wikipedia, it makes it quite clear that this is the type of thing that we're trying to avoid. This has no place on Wikipedia. And can you tell me what place Olimar came in and site a source? Or about how many votes he received? (Not that it matters anways) Speculation, although practically inevitable, is not acceptable. Many other character's pages who were included in the poll have been disallowed this kind of treatment because it is simply not relevent. Just because you like Olimar does not make it any more logical to include. Please either cite a credible source that proves that characters included in Nintendo Power's poll will increase the likeliness of them being in SSBB (hint: saying Bowser and Peach were in the poll for Melee characters is not proof) or get rid of that section. If not, I will take action beyond simply deleting it myself (ie. informing others of this).
- Ok then, if the poll has been removed in other articles, feel free to take it down. I wasn't aware that this poll was being discounted in other places. Since it is, it shouldn't be here. Thanks for the clarification! RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 21:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
- The August 2006 poll taken by Nintendo Power said that Captain Olimar was one of their top choices. Rat235478683 20:46, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Another poll? I always thought the original reasearch tag was a bit harsh. I think we can just replace it with citation needed tags. I mean, the existence of the poll isn't original research, nor are we insinuating that Olimar may included in the game, so I don't think we're actually including research. I'll remove the cleanup tag, but we'll have to leave the citation needed tags. RyanGerbil10 (Drop on in!) 03:48, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry I took the section out without discussion, but it seemed total speculation. Which it pretty much is. Olimar may be Nintendo Power's "top vote-getter," but that means nothing in the probability of him appearing in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. The amounts of polls held and the resulting...results do not indicate if Olimar or anyone else has a chance in being in the game.
- And may I point out that there is no reference to back this up?--The Ninth Bright Shiner talk 02:08, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
"Speculation on future releases"? Wikipedia isn't a place for speculation!--The Ninth Bright Shiner talk 02:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Alright, I've just got to do it. I'm going to take the Brawl section down; there's absolutely nothing to back it up. If anyone can provide good reason for it to stay, please do so.--The Ninth Bright Shiner 05:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Citations
[edit]I'm assuming there will be no objections to my removal of the Uncited tag. It's fully cited now, in my opinion. --Kirby-oh 01:00, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Which Ship?
[edit]Which ship of Captain Olimar's is in Super Mario Galaxy? The Dolphin, or the other ship he had in pikmin 2? 68.81.252.24 (talk) 12:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)68.81.252.24
the 1 from no. 2. ;)
SPAM? (Pun intended)
[edit]First line:
"Captain Olimar (Japanese: ã‚ャプテン・オリマー Hepburn: Kyaputen OrimÄ) is a fictional character from Nintendo's Pikmin video game"
Did somebody mess with the Japanese Katakana (or Hirogana, you know what I'm talking about), or is it just my computer? I don't want to change it because if it's just me, then I might mess it up somehow by trying to change it.
26in9 (talk) 09:47, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Update: I pretty much just found out that it was just my computer. It's back to normal now too, so nevermind. That sure was weird though..
26in9 (talk) 09:54, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Re: Reception
[edit]It is stated, and quoted, that Captain Olimar is an anti-hero because "in spite of his good nature he enslaves a race of aliens and forces them to work". However, this is incorrect. After his initial contact, which consisted of little more than shock and some staring, Olimar starts to walk away, and the Pikmin follows him. If he truly enslaved them, then he would have forced them to bend to his will. But since the Pikmin chose to follow him, they are more like friendly allies or even co-workers than slaves. In Pikmin 2, he even states in one of his journal entries that "When I crash-landed on this planet, they helped me locate my missing ship parts. In my darkest hour, the Pikmin were there for me." Note that he says "they helped me", not "I used them". Olimar has also said that he loves the Pikmin and doesn't know what he'd do without them. Again, note that he did not merely say that "the Pikmin are useful".
Personally, it doesn't seem like Olimar enslaved a race of aliens and forced them to work. I feel that there is substantial evidence to the contrary, beyond the fact of his good nature. As such, I believe that the statement about Captain Olimar being an anti-hero should be removed. That or a much better reason should be given as to why he is labeled as one.
26in9 (talk) 21:46, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- The statement is an opinion by GameDaily, not a factual description of the character. It shouldn't be removed simply because you disagree with it. Also, please don't use Wikipedia talk pages to discuss the article's subject. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 23:18, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, I realized that later. Also, I won't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 26in9 (talk • contribs) 18:16, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
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