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Nationality and flags[edit]

OK people let's calm, this down, and stop trying to make political points over nationality. I've reverted to the original wording 'actor from Northern Ireland' rather than later editors who have insisted on putting in 'British' or 'Irish'. This terminlogy is both factually correct and politically neutral. As for the anonymous poster who changed the Northern Irish flag to the flag of the Republic of Ireland on the grounds that he 'personally knows him' can I suggest you look at a map please - County Armagh is not in the Republic (as Recognised by the Republic itself under the Good Friday agreement, incidentally). So, legally Morgan was born a British citizen. 'Peronally knowing him' does not result in an international border mysterious shifting several hundred miles 21 years ago!

As someone whose (Catholic) family is fromn Northern Ireland (but originally from the South, as it happens) I know there is very little common grounds on symbols, flags, or terminology. I'm well aware the Northern Irish flag isn't as neutral as it could be. But until and unless there are finally flags and terminolgy that's acceptable to both sides, we're stuck with what we've got. And in Wikipedia, people from the North have the Northern Irish flag in their little infobox. We may not like it (GOD I don't like that flag!) but it is legally the correct one.

Most of all, can we recognise that the lad's and actor, and not a politician. Can we not mar a page on a very promising up and coming youngster by having a politically-motivated edit war here? Indisciplined (talk) 18:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

This is a factual not political issue
Having had a quick surf through the wiki, there seems to be a pattern of calling NI catholics 'Irish' and NI protestants 'British'.
Is calling Colin 'Irish' but not changing the flag a good compromise?
Rsloch (talk) 22:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Is there really any need for the flag in his infobox? I really don't see what difference it makes.
I also think the way the main body of text stands is fine - no need to add 'Irish' or 'British' or whatever. ~~ [Jam][talk] 23:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Yet it seems standard throughout Wikipedia.
Brigitte Bardot and Juliette Binoche are described as French actresses (not as "Paris Islanders"); Rutger Hauer is described as a Dutch actor (not a "Utrechtian"); Bruce Campbell and Albert Brooks are described as American actors (not as "Michiganian" or Californian); Russell Crowe is described as a New Zealand and Australian actor (not as Wellingtonian or New South Welsh); Peter Sellers is described as a British actor (not as Hampshirean or English). An exception seems to be with British actors and actresses, who are variously described as British, English (Charlie Chaplin, Maryam d'Abo), Northern Irish, Scottish or Welsh. --Setanta747 (talk) 13:27, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Ferrets? Really?[edit]

Removed the ferret vandalism bit. Even though it made me laugh. 94.113.44.8 (talk) 17:11, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Images of the actor[edit]

The Image Use Policy of Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy) contains the following two guidelines for content:

(1) Images on Wikipedia should be used in an encyclopedic manner. They should be relevant and increase readers' understanding of the subject matter. In general, images should depict the concepts described in the text of the article.

(2) Images should depict their content well (the object of the image should be clear and central).

Images that are uploaded and pass the strict copyright rules should also be tested against the content guidelines shown above. Please consider whether your image (i) shows more than one person, or (ii) the actor is not central (i.e. principal in shot) or (iii) may suggest something that is not verifiable are appropriate for this page on Wikipedia. Panpantom (talk) 19:49, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Removal of information[edit]

A certain IP keeps repeatedly removing the following bit: For this role, in which he had a nude scene during a tense part of the interrogation, . This bit is sourced. The IP has stated on their talk page that I delete the information which aren't important and useless!. Since we work on a policy of discussion, I am asking the IP to explain their stand here. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 08:42, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

User:Smaugh seems to be doing the same thing as above, leading one to assume that the person is one and the same. Based on their talk history, there is a pattern of disruptive editing on this page and several other pages. Asher-of-Locksley (talk) 09:08, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I've told both users to discuss here but neither seem interested. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:21, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Rather than block everyone involved for edit warring, I've fully-protected the page for a couple of days - work out on the talkpage here whether the nude scene is worth mentioning or not. If the edit war continues after the protection expires, expect me to use the block button next time. Yunshui  09:37, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm personally uninvolved here. I only started this section because the IP and later User:Smaugh kept removing the line without explanation. I am not going to edit the article after this. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:51, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I just delete informations because it's useless informations. It's not important to write this information... -- Smaugh (talk) 10:00, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

For User:Smaugh who keeps removing information - Information is not defamatory and is not useless. It is a part of the actor's career for his 2008 play 'A Prayer for my Daughter.' There is a similar information on actor Daniel Radcliffe's page about his nudity for his play 'Equus' in 2007 as well as other actors' articles and the information is not being removed. Asher-of-Locksley (talk) 10:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

For me this kinf of information, if we could call this information, are useless. What's the point of writing it? Nothing, who cares! -- Smaugh (talk) 10:37, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

This information has been in Colin Morgan's wikipedia article for a very long time, no one else is very defensive about this fact, and it is verifiable. He is not the only actor that mentions nudity for past acting performance... It is a description of one of his earliest plays and contains a vital information that new fans wouldn't be able to know had it not been mentioned in this article. Nudity in itself, especially as part of art or theatre, is not wrong nor should it be looked down on. Don't let it upset you or offend your puritan sensibilities. Instead, this fact about Mr Morgan is quite commendable since he is known to be quite a shy person but was amazingly able to overcome it and be brave, for the sake of his outstanding performance in 'A Prayer for my Daughter.' To remove this information would be to undermine what he had accomplished with the heaviest emotional moment of said play. Please don't get offended by it - it won't hurt Colin Morgan's career or make people look down on him. Instead, it'll show how dedicated and worthy he is of respect - not a lot would be able to do what he did, with such passion in the scene of the play. He was physically and emotionally naked or vulnerable at that moment and it was a powerful acting scene. To rob people of knowing that information would be a terrible injustice to the fierce dedication of Mr Morgan and his talent. Asher-of-Locksley (talk) 17:22, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Please note, you are not the only audience here. There may be people who are interested in this. If you don't like it, don't censor it, let it be. Just ignore it. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 18:15, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm totally disagree with you. This information is useless ans it must not be mentioned on Wikipedia or elsewhere... -- Smaugh (talk) 19:31, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm not trying to convince you, nor is anybody else. All I'm saying is, if you don't like something, ignore it. Period. It is sourced content. I'll ask for more eyes on this but I don't see that leading anywhere. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 08:43, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Question - what does the nudity mention bring to the article? Wikipedia is not censored (which is what I suspect Smaugh is trying to do) but it is also not a fan site or salacious. The nudity mention appears WP:UNDUE. Just because it has been here a long time does not mean it belongs here.EBY (talk) 15:14, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Totally disagree with you ! This thing is useless ! -- Smaugh (talk) 20:09, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Pinging @Yunshui: or @Favonian: here. It seems the user has gone back to removing the text without discussing it. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:12, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

I delete this thing because it's useless and it's you, you don't want to discuss it ! -- 92.149.192.194 (talk) 21:02, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Simply saying I don't want it, it's useless and deleting the text is not discussing, merely bullying. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 21:25, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

What more? You do not even try to understand my thought ... I do not understand why you mention this that brings nothing to the article ... It is not at all useful -- Smaugh (talk) 13:12, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

We don't derive consensus with one persons objection to certain information. That is, against the spirit of healthy debate. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:46, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm totally disagree with you. This thing is useless that all ! -- Smaugh (talk) 18:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

@Smaugh: If you disagree, explain why. "I don't like it" is not a valid argument here. Is the statement insufficiently supported by the sources? Has it not been the subject of sufficient coverage to make it a notable part of his biography? You need to show which Wikipedia policies support your argument. You also need to stop editing while logged out in an attempt to make it appear as though more than one person supports your position; if you do that again, I will hardblock your underlying IP address to prevent you from editing. Yunshui  07:09, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

It seems like user with the IP 92.149.208.119 has tried to remove the same information - perhaps it's the same editor as before? Trying to do the same thing again recently. --Aussie Photog (talk) 08:48, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Concur. This information is being removed needlessly. It could be the same person as before. --Asher-of-Locksley (talk) 16:16, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes it's the same person ! And I maintain this information is useless and completely stupid ! This information is no necessary to appear in this page ! - 92.149.192.237 (talk) 17:08, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Again, the sourced information isn't "useless" or "completely stupid." It's posted in other actor pages without any hysterical fans thinking it's improper. The information has long been in this page before you started editing it out. Could you please act mature and just move on? There's nothing useless or stupid about a true fact that was a significant career moment for Morgan. --Asher-of-Locksley (talk) 18:08, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

First more respect ok ! And no I don't stop to delete this because it's totally useless ! This page and all wikipedia is just shit ! - 92.149.192.237 (talk) 21:06, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

This is unfortunate since you don't want to discuss with reason and are just willing to do edit wars, not just in this article but others that involve Colin Morgan (like Humans (TV Series), The Fall (TV Series), etc.), even causing other editors to start to hate the actor because of what you're doing. I believe it's long past due that an admin has to step in. Again, in particular, I hold my view stance that the information is relevant, as has multiple others (meaning thereis consensus to keep the information) who keep reverting your edit. --Aussie Photog (talk) 03:24, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Colin's co-star (Bradley) from Merlin series[edit]

Hello, Wikipedians! I am working on editing Bradley James' personal Wikipedia page for a class project. I'm mainly interested in adding information about the actor, because it is very bare. Do you have any suggestions of where to look for (primary) sources? I see that there is a lot of in depth information on Colin. Where did you begin to look for these sources? I know Bradley has been interviewed before, so I was thinking I'd look for videos of him at ComicCon-type events. Any input would be GREAT! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdowd14 (talkcontribs) 01:48, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

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