Talk:Comparison of antivirus software
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|This page was nominated for deletion on 3 June 2008. The result of the discussion was merge and redirect to List of antivirus software.|
- 1 Entries need to be checked
- 2 Other Antivirus Software?
- 3 Mac Version of avast!
- 4 Sortable columns
- 5 What's the "live update" column?
- 6 Need date of product testing
- 7 Missing Antivirus Vendors
- 8 Please add a section listing why each product was removed as non-notable
- 9 Please add a column indicating the spying nature of some AV products
- 10 Inclusion Criteria
- 11 More antivirus software from the VirusTotal article
- 12 Cleanup
- 13 OPSWAT
- 14 features should be verified and differentiated when dealing with free vs. paid
- 15 there should be feature parity when dealing with desktop vs. mobile products
Entries need to be checked
I did not verify the correctness of all the information that I entered. Some of the information origins from other articles in Wikipedia. Sometimes, there is the danger of mistakes when copying this information. E. g., the article about AVG Anti-Virus says that it is also available for Linux and that there is a free edition. However, the free edition is not available for Linux... --MrWiseGuy 09:16, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
There is a free edition of AVG Linux Refer to the follwing link
--Venu--220.127.116.11 14:25, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Other Antivirus Software?
Does anybody have other well known anti-virus softwares, such as McAfee and Norton?
- Sophos and Trend are also missing despite being major players. --DanielRigal (talk) 10:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- Returnil Virtual System (http://www.returnilvirtualsystem.com/) has an integrated antivirus. comes in free version and paid.Newtonsghost (talk) 16:00, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
- It would be nice to add Kaspersky to the Linux list. As far as I remember it was one among the first to release their AV for the Linux OS too (as AVP and after AVP's split to AVG and Kaspersky (2 branches or forks)) and it has lots of versions today (for Linux Workstation, Mailservers, Fileservers, Antispam, etc.) (Velja) 22:43, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
I noticed that Norton 360 isn't on the list (it's been around for a few years now and has an article on WP at Norton 360, neither is Norton Mobile Security (unsure as to whether that has an article on WP). I may be biased as I'm a Norton user so I'd rather that someone who has a more independent view of AV software update that. I'm also not very good with creating and updating tables on WP - I need to spend more time in the Wikipedia:Sandbox learning my way around tables first.
Mac Version of avast!
There is Mac Version of avast! as well http://www.avast.com/eng/press-release-avast-mac-edition-released.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 11:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Why are all the license entries the same color? MSE marketing team perhaps? Or it was an arbitrary decision and I'm just lazy. Anybody up for the job, please update. Would be nice to make tables sortable by license type, price, and other stats.22.214.171.124 (talk) 23:21, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
What's the "live update" column?
Column titles which are neither linked or explained in a legend in this article should be removed, no? Except the obvious, self-explanatory ones. Somehow, this "live update" does not quite do it for me. --Jerome Potts (talk) 06:18, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
Need date of product testing
while i applaud the compilation of data here, it would be good to understand it's relevance for today. meaning, what is the year/date of the testing done at the independent labs? the presumption is that these results are current which could give inaccurate information.Newtonsghost (talk) 15:56, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Missing Antivirus Vendors
1.) Adaware (by Lavasoft) has had included A-V for some time, also has standalone Antivirus. Adaware uses GFI engine. 2.) Microsoft also uses someone elses antivirus engine, not sure but they bought a major stake in G Data? 3.) Zones (Zone Alarm) Antivirus is free and rated higher than Norton et al. It is standalone from Zone Alarm Firewall. Shjacks45 (talk) 19:47, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Please add a section listing why each product was removed as non-notable
The footnote listing products removed as non-notable does not give any reasons for their exclusion. Because assessing the notability of anything is one of the most contentious issues amongst Wikipedians, reasons need to be given.
It would also be nice to have a specification as to which notability criteria are used for list inclusion (these surely cannot be the same as the criteria for creation of whole articles). One should also consider if notability of being the biggest scam since Madoff would pass the criteria of being a "notable" AV product (I see no such products on the list now, which is objectively good).
Currently it seems that any Wikipedian could exclude or include any product other than their own, by simply claiming notability or not without backing up their claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbohmdk (talk • contribs) 03:25, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Please add a column indicating the spying nature of some AV products
Some AV products work by routinely sending (some of) the users files to an online server for examination. Some AV products send statistics about the users files to the vendor. Some make this optional, but punish users who refuse by giving them less protection.
These factors can be critical selection criteria for anyone who has confidential materials on their computers, regardless of the apparent trustworthyness of the vendor. Thus the presence, absence or optionality of such functionality should be included as another column in the tables.
Some possible values in such a column could be "no" (green), "option" (green), "pushed" (== optional, but with penalty if refused) (yellow), "yes" (red).
You should NOT add antivirus software to this list unless it has an article or you can provide citation to its notability while it remains a red link.
Also, as this "ref" is not encyclopedic content I have removed the in-line comments from the article
Entries which have been removed from these tables for lack of notability include:
- SmartCOP Internet Security Suite by AvSoft Technologies
- The free Celframe Security Labs
- Emsisoft Internet Security
- IKARUS anti.virus and their free mobile.security for Android
- MicroWorld Technologies' "eScan" products for Windows, Mac OS, Linux and Android
- Products by Norman
- "Protector Plus" by Proland Software
- Products by Quick Heal Technologies
- "Incredible Antivirus" by RMG Technologies International
- ProtectMac AntiVirus
- CyberSoft's "VSTK" for Linux, Solaris, and FreeBSD
- The free NQ Mobile Security for Android and Windows Mobile
More antivirus software from the VirusTotal article
- AegisLab (AegisLab)
- Agnitum (Agnitum)
- AhnLab Inc (AhnLab V3)
- Antiy Labs (Antiy-AVL)
- Aladdin (eSafe)
- ALWIL (Avast! Antivirus)
- AVG Technologies (AVG)
- Avira (AntiVir)
- Baidu (Baidu-International)
- BitDefender GmbH (BitDefender)
- Bkav Corporation (Bkav)
- ByteHero Information Security Technology Team (ByteHero)
- Cat Computer Services (Quick Heal)
- CMC InfoSec (CMC Antivirus)
- Commtouch (Command Antivirus)
- ClamAV (ClamAV)
- Comodo (Comodo)
- Doctor Web, Ltd. (Dr.Web)
- Emsi Software GmbH (Emsisoft)
- Eset Software (ESET NOD32)
- Fortinet (Fortinet)
- FRISK Software (F-Prot)
- F-Secure (F-Secure)
- G DATA Software (GData)
- Hacksoft (The Hacker)
- Hauri (ViRobot)
- Ikarus Software (Ikarus)
- INCA Internet (nProtect)
- K7 Computing (K7AntiVirus, K7GW)
- Kaspersky Lab (Kaspersky Anti-Virus)
- Kingsoft (Kingsoft)
- Malwarebytes Corporation (Malwarebytes Anti-malware)
- McAfee (VirusScan)
- Microsoft (Malware Protection)
- Microworld (eScan)
- Nano Security (Nano Antivirus)
- Norman (Norman Antivirus)
- Panda Security (Panda Platinum)
- PC Tools (PCTools)
- Qihoo 360 (Qihoo 360)
- Rising Antivirus (Rising)
- Sophos (SAV)
- Sunbelt Software (Sunbelt antivirus)
- SUPERAntiSpyware (SUPERAntiSpyware)
- Symantec AntiVirus
- TotalDefense (TotalDefense)
- Trend Micro (TrendMicro, TrendMicro-HouseCall)
- VirusBlokAda (VBA32)
- "Credits & Acknowledgements". VirusTotal. Retrieved 2014-07-06.
The "Criteria" section is NOT encyclopedic as it is self-referencing. The criteria of 'still active' is NOT encyclopedic either, inactive entries are encyclopedic and should not be excluded from this list. --Jpswade (talk) 11:14, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
I sincerely don't understand why there is a column for OPSWAT. I don't think there is any encyclopedic value in it, for a much-too-wide table. Even after I visited the article on OPSWAT (which is about a private company), I couldn't know what the meaning of the categories in that column is. I propose to delete it from this article (and at the most to add it to the article on that company). --Jasón (talk) 22:53, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
features should be verified and differentiated when dealing with free vs. paid
Kaspersky for Android is free for on-demand but paid for on-access. I imagine a lot of them are like that and that is a significant feature. It's misleading to imply something is a free product with X feature, but really you have to pay for that feature.Jawz101 (talk) 18:12, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
there should be feature parity when dealing with desktop vs. mobile products
I think of AV heuristics as even more important today on a mobile device when compared to a desktop. The columns for mobile and desktop should be the same, regardless. Also, when comparing AV products on mobile, the random extra features they bake in which have nothing to do with the AV engine. They all add some sort of backup solution, parental controls, SMS blocking, AntiTheft and privacy advisors but that has nothing to do with the AV engine's capabilities. They're just throwing in extra features to justify some sort of value to their product. An android app privacy advisor? Come on. All that does is read app manifests for permissions- hardly an antivirus thing. Just some unsophisticated thing they throw in to pretend to be relevant.
I have yet to see a mobile AV engine actually go into technical detail on their AV engine on the mobile OS which leads me to believe most are crude. The focus should be on the Anti-Virus detection and not fluff features.