Talk:Craig Newmark

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Lack of Criticism Section[edit]

Although the article was once dominated by a hate group that was attacking Newmark, the editing seems to have overcompensated and now there is no criticism or controversy section at all.

There is no public life without controversy so this needs to be corrected. (talk) 23:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)


The current version of this article (ID #35219072 - 02:04, 15 January 2006) contains 396 words, 252 of which relate to the controversy concerning the sale of animals through craigslist. While this controversy deserves a place on Wikipedia, it is given undue weight in this article and as a result violates section 7 of the Wikipedia NPOV policy. As a result, I have placed the NPOV warning at the top of this article. I would advocate that the text relating to this controversy would be more appropriately placed in the craigslist article, given that it is more a controversy about craigslist business policy, than it is a controversy concerning Craig Newmark himself. Perhaps a small mention would be relevant in this article, with a link to the expanded text in the craigslist article.

SweetP112 23:27, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I also advocate moving said text to the craigslist article. I've already mentioned something to this affect before (below). jareha 23:50, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I've added a sentence to craigslist's Significant events section detailing the pit bull controversy and providing a link to the San Francisco Chronicle article. SweetP112 03:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! jareha 03:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


I've just asked for help regarding protocols for correcting errors and adding a little info to this article, since Jimmy told me that there's some etiquette to be observed.

any help's appreciated.


Craig Cnewmark 19:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

(I've addressed this request at Craigslist and Craig responded at user talk:Cnewmark.) —EncMstr 05:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Article content errors[edit]

Folks, I'd like to correct one error on the page, then articulate very briefly what I do at craigslist, and include one video link:

I'm not politically active, as was on Newsome's transition team, not anything else.

At craigslist, my full time job is customer service, dealing a lot with spammers and scammers.

Interview on Public TV/KQED Josh Kornbluth show:

Cnewmark 17:52, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I've incorporated these suggestions, which checked out 100%. I also removed content that didn't belong in the article, but would be better in craigslist. Do you have any other ideas for improvement? —EncMstr 19:33, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, appreciated! If it's valuable, I'm involved in a small way with Sunlight Foundation, responsible for and anti-corruption tools, and also OneVoice, a peace group comprised of thousands of moderates in Palestine and Israel. is that useful?
Cnewmark 21:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome. Those might be worthy additions: How are you involved with them? Any links to sources? —EncMstr 21:18, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm started to get involved with groups that work quietly, enlisting citizens to make things happen. My primary contribution is getting the word out, but secondarily, I advise regarding online community. Here're some links for some of those groups, along with articles that might be valuable and/or entertaining. Let me know if that's too much; there's lots more around —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cnewmark (talkcontribs) 03:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

Cnewmark 17:11, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Folks, looks like a number of links to press were removed, but I don't see any history on that or discussion.

Can someone let me know what happened? thanks! Cnewmark 19:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

They were removed by this edit which was not explained in the edit summary. However, that editor has a history of cleaning up link spam, so that's probably the explanation. —EncMstr 20:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The links are valid; how does one get this corrected? thanks! Cnewmark 05:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I see the correction!

Would it be appropriate to suggest adding links to clips of my stuff on the Colbert and Stewart shows? Cnewmark 16:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Cnewmark (talk) 21:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC) folks, the Wikimedia folks have asked me to ask you to add the following to this page. (I'm playing by the rules) I've been named as a "nerd-in-residence" by the US Department of Veterans Affairs, seriously. That might make me officially the biggest nerd in the world. I'm still a customer service rep at craigslist

in the first citation, you need to click on Craig Newmark to see the bio

citations: [1] [2]

Cnewmark (talk) 21:03, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

folks, I need a hand, the Forbes article wildly exaggerates rumors of my net worth, and it causes problems including physical safety.
Granted, there's no reliable source for this at all. Would it be ethical for me to suggest someone remove it. Thanks! /Craig (talk) 19:14, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Are you saying Forbes is not a reliable source? I think it is generally trusted as one even here at Wikipedia. Any idea how they got their information? Seems like someone would have had their lawyer slap them around if that was a frequent enough problem.
Do you know of another source which is somewhat reputable and contradicts Forbes? —EncMstr (talk) 22:56, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Sorry to delay a response; working with sensitive info, and it will be months before I can go further. A new article by danah boyd addresses the broad issue, in the interim:[3] The only source of actual info of my net worth is me, and I don't know how to suitably document that, suggestions appreciated, and thanks for your forbearance. Craignewmark (talk) 20:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 11:06, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Sexual Preference[edit]

I almost recall reading that he was gay. If I found the source should that be added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

It's hard to see that help the article, even if sourced. He's best known as the founder of craigslist; how would his sexual orientation benefit that? —EncMstr 01:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind anyways on this. Turns out I was mistaken. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm often cheerful, but Eileen might object to characterizing me as "gay". (talk) 11:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Holy crap. Google 'Eileen Whelpley' —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:39, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Clean up[edit]

Cleaned up some of the references, added the reference re Morristown High School. Let me know if I've managed to inadvertently delete some of the other material. Still a citation missing, but I didn't verify that information.--Auntieruth55 (talk) 19:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ad[edit]

Should mention be made of his plea for wikipedia? his photo replaced the banner - - - —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:10, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

only if mentioned in a reliable source. which neither cl or wikipedia are. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 22:42, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Why Craigslist Is Such a Mess[edit]

Can somebody explain why they deleted the reference to the Wired article, Why Craigslist Is Such a Mess By Gary Wolf

The term "mess" is actually a backwards complement. It means that Craigslist is running things in a way that other people think is a mess, but from the user's POV, does exactly what it's supposed to do.

I thought it was a good article, and quite favorable to Craig Newmark, unlike most of the media, who don't seem to understand him too well. -- Nbauman (talk) 13:06, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Preoccupation with Religion/Ethnicity?[edit]

Right now it feels like there is a rather strong emphasis (verging on preoccupation?) with the Jewish parentage of someone who self-identifies as non-practicing and secular. I wonder if one or two of the references to [2] should be removed or combined? Please let me know if I am mistaken and it is a big part of Craig's identity. Kylewm (talk) 18:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC)kylewm

Agreed. Perhaps a bot could be deployed to amend biographies of all secular non-skydivers as well as those who avoid going to traveling circuses?  :-) —EncMstr (talk) 18:38, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
it's about right. I identify as nerd, customer service rep, and Jew, it's just that I don't talk much about the last (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
As mentioned in the Template:Infobox person, "Ethnicity should be supported with a citation from a reliable source". In general I strongly disagree in having such a line, and in this specific case - furthermore - there is no "citation from a reliable source" included. --Iopensa (talk) 08:24, 10 February 2014 (UTC). Sorry, I see that in text that there are citations, nevertheless having in your biography a story of your life and family is different than having an infobox with a simple statement which frames you ethnically. it is not the same thing and it does not do the same. --Iopensa (talk) 08:31, 10 February 2014 (UTC)