Talk:DDG Hansa
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A fact from DDG Hansa appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 September 2012 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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This article contains a translation of Deutsche Dampfschifffahrts-Gesellschaft „Hansa“ from de.wikipedia. |
Schifffahrt?
[edit]New german spelling rules where introduced after the company went defunct. I see sources with both spellings but the company was likely never called Schifffahrtsgesellschaft while operating. Should be "Deutsche Dampfschiffahrts-Gesellschaft Hansa" which is a proper name. 80.132.70.229 (talk) 23:34, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, hence the inclusion of the old spelling in the lede as an alternate, but I'm deferring to the German Wikipedia by putting the 3-fs spelling first. Also this was one consideration in locating the article at the abbreviation. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:02, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- I would not go with the German Wikipedia, it lacks sense for history. Why give a name to a company that the company NEVER used? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Because it's used in some modern sources - whatever one may think of the spelling reform, it's now enforced. We also don't keep on using th where the earlier spelling reform changed it to t, and I'm not worried about noting at Fischerinsel that Gertraudenstraße used to be Gertraudtenstraße. But that's why common abbreviations are so useful :-) --Yngvadottir (talk) 11:41, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- The spelling reform is enforced, that means if you want to write "Schifffahrt" in new text you have to use "fff". However, it does NOT mean you have to change the spelling of historic names. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Don't know about usage on de.wiki. I think for proper names the original spelling is used most of the time around here. 80.132.71.109 (talk) 16:45, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- That's what I did, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Don't know about usage on de.wiki. I think for proper names the original spelling is used most of the time around here. 80.132.71.109 (talk) 16:45, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- The spelling reform is enforced, that means if you want to write "Schifffahrt" in new text you have to use "fff". However, it does NOT mean you have to change the spelling of historic names. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Because it's used in some modern sources - whatever one may think of the spelling reform, it's now enforced. We also don't keep on using th where the earlier spelling reform changed it to t, and I'm not worried about noting at Fischerinsel that Gertraudenstraße used to be Gertraudtenstraße. But that's why common abbreviations are so useful :-) --Yngvadottir (talk) 11:41, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- I would not go with the German Wikipedia, it lacks sense for history. Why give a name to a company that the company NEVER used? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
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