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Digital Video Broadcasting (DVB) the future of television by U. Reimers, 1998. Seems to be this: [PDF] Digital Video Broadcasting (DVB) the future of television - Educypedia "By Ulrich Reimers. Reprinted by kind permission of: PhysicsWorld, April 1998"
DVB shifts focus to digital future - South China Morning Post Samuel Yeung, 16 nov. 1999, could be interesting history.
Powering DVB-T - the future - 14 August 2002 - Dataweek On building a power adapter. Questionable usefulness for this article it seems at a glance, but interesting to have a little different perspective on DVB. Would be nice if there is something relevant to put into this article.
Future Directions of DVB Standards - Yumpu By Peter MacAvock, August 2005. There are a lot more related papers on the site, all in Spanish.
The Future of Digital Broadcasting: A Global View from the DVB project IEEE, 10 April 2007
DVB-H and the future of mobile television - TVTechnology 19 June 2007
[linux-dvb] [PATCH] Future of DVB-S2 - LinuxTV.org 29 Aug 2008. A rabbit hole that could lead to something.
Development: Linux DVB API history and future - LinuxTV.or Perhaps another rabbit hole.
Is there a future for DVB-C2? Cable & Satellite International, May-June 2009, p22-25. Really nice article.
Manage the Future of your DVB-T2 digital Broadcast Transmission Network - BES India by Nils Ahrens, Jan 2010
DVB-T2 – A Standard with Enhanced Mobile Capabilities 2011. Looks like an overview paper with technical details.
DVB-T2 pilot project launched in Berlin | Digital TV News Monday, October 6th, 2014
DVB-S2X - the DVB-S2 extension for the future of satellite … Tests in Italy, by Rai it seems. Written sometime after January 2015
MPEG-H now Included in DVB Specification - Fraunhofer Audio Blog 31 jan. 2017
New DVB Video & Audio Coding Specification Enabling Future Uhd 2 March 2017
THE USE OF BAND III IN EUROPE - EBU Tech Published July 2018
MacAvock on the future of DVB – and why it is not 'DVB-Auto' September 25, 2018. Certainly interesting. MacAvock is back and points to DVB-I. Dr Ulrich Reimers is mentioned.

On 31 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Digital Video Broadcasting to DVB. The result of the discussion was moved.

What about MATV and MMDS (Microwave) systems?

How do master-antenna television (MATV) systems and those pay-TV networks that rely on MMDS techonology? Which DVB standards would cover those two? -Daniel Blanchette 00:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, found them. -Daniel Blanchette 00:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should be renamed

The article should be renamed from DVB to Digital Video Broadcasting. This follows the naming conventions, and is easier to mouse-over when reading an article about digital transmission. Besides, it's in the logo. —Wikibarista 08:42, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Wikibarista and I made the move to Digital Video Broadcasting. I think that this change is appropriate based on the WP's naming conventions. To anyone who disagrees, I direct your attention to the Digital Audio Broadcasting article, which also opts to use full name rather than the acronym. --Jeysaba (talk) 17:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"See also" should include MPEG-2

Granted MPEG-2 already links here, but having read that entry it feels like we should return the courtesy. I am unfortunately not a good enough editor yet to try adding this myself. Will someone else? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shannock9 (talk • contribs) 13:02, 1 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Don't forget MPEG-4

The DVB article should be updated to include the fact that some of the countries that are adopting DVB are doing so using the H.264/MPEG-4 AVC standard, and some broadcasters who are doing HD are also doing so using the MPEG-4, not MPEG-2, format. -Daniel Blanchette 04:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to send 3D-programs via DVB?

Is it possible to send 3D-programs via DVB? --Urvabara (talk) 18:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paragraph about adoption in North America

It mentions correctly that DVB-S is used on various satellites, mostly Ku-band, some C-band, but it's not used in cable systems. Cable is either still analog NTSC or it's SCTE-65 which is like ATSC with PSIP transmitted in an out of band channel for encrypted channels or it's in the clear which is like ATSC but with QAM modulation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.33.98.118 (talk) 17:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A critical note

This article implicitly suggests that DVB standardization has been a great success. This view is not shared by everyone, however. Take, for instance, Nolan, D. Bottlenecks in pay television: Impact on market development in Europe Telecommunications Policy, 1997, 21, p. 606:

Although the European DVB standardization process was supposed to create a standard environment for the development of broadcast digital delivery systems, it was a tool kit specification which allowed designers a menu of choices in their implementations. In the European digital satellite environment this enabled those who understood these specifications to erect convenient technology barriers to entry, external to the debate raging about conditional access and electronic programme guides at the time. The simple expedient of choosing different parameter sets or choosing to support only a limited range of DVB symbol rates automatically creates the potential to control which services the receiver can access.

To present an unbiased account of DVB standardization the article should therefore include such views. Any thoughts on this? Niclas 08:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niclas M. (talk • contribs)

Please feel free to include those views in the article. --Cantalamessa (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Russian MPEG-4 Link

Most MP4 links in this article are to the H.264/MPEG-4 AVC article. But the "Russia" section links to the main MPEG-4 article which is much broader. Does anyone know whether Russian DVB-T uses H.264 (i.e. MPEG-4 part 10) or does it use some other part of MPEG-4, justifying the different linking? --Shannock9 (talk) 15:01, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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DVB-DASH

Please can someone add this to the article, https://www.dvb.org/news/etsi-publishes-latest-version-of-dvb_dash says it is a profile of MPEG DASH. --John a s (talk) 09:50, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Video and Television centric – IP transmission as well

The article concentrates on the eponymous use of DVB for television and video broadcasting (e.g. "All data is transmitted in MPEG transport streams with some additional constraints (DVB-MPEG).") IP over DVB is a highly important use of the standards, especially for various forms satellite Internet access, whether over MPEG transport streams or GSE. (A number of satellite providers use DVB-S2 for the downlink, while the uplink may use DVB-RCS or something else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.28.41.34 (talk) 13:41, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 31 October 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 10:20, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Digital Video Broadcasting → DVB
DVB → DVB (disambiguation)

– The acronym DVB is what the system is known as and called, just like ATSC, ISDB, NTSC, PAL, SECAM and NASA. The DVB brand and system has a global and dominating presence. Comparison with DAB, as mentioned in the earlier move request above from 2008, is not reasonable as that is only widespread in Europe, and even there analogue FM still dominates. Most people don't know what DAB is even in Europe. Moreover, there are a lot more possible meanings for the acronym DAB, and also words, shortenings and location names, which is not the case with DVB. In contrast, most people in the world know what DVB is – but most people don't know what it stands for. There are very few other possible meanings for DVB, and all of them are in principle local appearances. The situation is similar with ATSC (look at the disambiguation page). PAL has a pretty extensive disambiguation list but the article on the TV system is still named just and precisely PAL. Therefore I think having the acronym as the title instead of the full name is the most appropriate for DVB. What do you think? -- Mango från yttre rymden (talk) 00:06, 31 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 00:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:03, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Added move of associated disambiguation page. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this subsection with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB indicates these meanings to be by far most common. Granted, Donny van de Beek is currently on top of the list but his article doesn't even mention this acronym, so I'm not sure why he would need to be listed here. https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=DVB indicates almost all outgoing traffic goes to these meanings, so Digital Video Broadcasting is indeed the primary topic for DVB. Not sure if the main title should be the acronym, but probably. Support --Joy [shallot] (talk) 18:02, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

Note: WikiProject Television has been notified of this discussion. — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 00:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Telecommunications has been notified of this discussion. — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 00:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: to generate a more thorough consensus — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 00:50, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

DVB-I

A draft article on DVB-I (Draft:DVB-I) was rejected for publication several times. The most recent rejection recommended that the content should be merged into the main article on DVB. I have added a sub-section under the Metadata and Encryption section of the article, since DVB-I primarily relates to metadata. I have added only the main dates relevant in the development of the specification and a short description of what it does. Others may enrich the information on DVB-I in due course. The (rejected) draft article may be a useful source for this. Thatcommsguy (talk) 09:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]