Talk:Earl K. Fernandes

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A fact from Earl K. Fernandes appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 April 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that, upon ordination, Earl K. Fernandes will be the first Indian-American Latin Catholic bishop in the United States?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Earl K. Fernandes.

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 23:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that, upon ordination, Earl K. Fernandes will be the first Indian-American Latin Catholic bishop in the United States? Source: Cincinnati Priest Appointed as New Columbus Bishop

Created by Maximilian775 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:24, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Article is new and long enough, has citations throughout, and appears to be written neutrally. Sources do verify the hook fact, which is interesting enough. QPQ not provided because the user has no DYKs yet. Welcome to the club. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:53, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, I'm newer on Wikipedia, does this mean that the article will go through to DYK? What does QPQ mean @ Muboshgu Maximilian775 (talk) 05:39, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- Maximilian775, yes. Apologies for me not being clear. My review touched on all of the required areas. I'll add the checklist below so that you can see the review requirements more clearly. "QPQ" is shorthand for quid pro quo review. You are required to review a DYK nomination for every nomination you make, after your fifth DYK credit.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: – Muboshgu (talk) 16:01, 16 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Maximilian775: There is a sentence in the article that is not cited; I have added a "citation needed" tag next to it. Can you put a reference for that sentence in the article, or remove the sentence? Thanks! Z1720 (talk) 02:03, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: It's based off of those respective person's pages and the list at Roman Catholic Diocese of Columbus -- is that not enough? i'm a new user and so not completely familiar with this haha Maximilian775 (talk) 20:32, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Maximilian775: Don't worry, I'm happy to clarify anything. Other Wikipedia articles cannot be used as sources. However, Wikipedia articles can use the same source across multiple articles. What is the source that verifies the information in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Columbia article? That source can be copied into this article. Z1720 (talk) 02:08, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: I just added a source to Fernandes' page RE this - is it satisfactory? Maximilian775 (talk) 04:07, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is. Thanks for doing this. Z1720 (talk) 12:10, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

POV concerns August 2022[edit]

I'm sorry that I don't have the expertise to edit this talk page properly, but this is one of the most biased, non-neutral "fluff" entries I've ever seen on Wikipedia. It reads like it was written by his mother.

He certainly deserves a place on Wikipedia, but he is a highly controversial, anti-gay, ultra-conservative, Catholic figure. None of that controversy is presented here.

There — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irelandkm (talk • contribs) 20:53, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Irelandkm: Hi and welcome back to Wikipedia! While your concerns will be noted, it's important to remember that articles on Wikipedia are based on accurately-sourced material from reliable sources. If you have any specific content within this article you find inaccurate or misrepresentative of the source cited, please feel welcome to delete it yourself with a clarifying message in the edit summary. Similarly, feel free to add further context with additional citations. If you feel uncertain about any of this, you are welcome to reply here or on my talk page with additional questions, concerns, or clarifications! ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:59, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Irelandkm! I'm one of the primary authors of this page, and Fernandes' "anti-gay"-ness actually is presented in the article, if you would like to characterize it as such; mention is made of his 2013 book advocating against the admission of gay men to Catholic seminaries, and his work to bring Courage International to Ohio State's campus after the Paulists no longer worked there. As Pbritti said, feel free to edit the article so long as you remain within the guidelines of the article!

Maximilian775 (talk) 16:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]