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Senator uncle

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Stehle just calls his uncle "Senator Prettner", not giving a full name or saying what senate. There is no Prettner listed (list) in the Senate of the Kingdom of Italy. There is a Veit Prettner [de] listed (list ) in 1891–4 (dets) in the House of Deputies (Austria) but that was a lower house. Perhaps Stehle made a slip and the uncle was senator Antonio Cippico?

The bishops of Trent and Trieste with whom the senator was friendly might have been:

  • Trent: Eugenio Carlo Valussi [it] (1886–1903) or Celestino Endrici (1904–40)
  • Trieste: Franz Xaver Nagl (1902–10); Andrea Karlin (1911–19); Angelo Bartolomasi (1919–22); Luigi Fogar (1923–36)

I couldn't google any links between those names and "Prettner" or "Cippico". jnestorius(talk) 21:37, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Double agent?

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Some sources call him a double agent:

  • was he an opportunist who worked equally as suited himself, for the OSS (and CIA?) on the one hand and the Soviets (and Yugoslavs?) on the other hand?
  • or was he committed to one side and feeding false information to the other? The documents he supplied in the 60s and 70s were of little value. jnestorius(talk) 21:37, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

jnestorius(talk) 21:37, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

1952 sentence stayed?

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I doubt he served any time in prison after his 1952 convictions. The Italian Code of Criminal Procedure provided a "suspension" (I think stay of execution rather than suspended sentence is the nearest equivalent in English law) until all appeals have been exhausted.[1] However, the Unità article[2] only mentions a sospesa for the fine of his coaccused, not for Cipico's imprisonment. I suspect the latter went without saying? jnestorius(talk) 22:32, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Schettino, Francesco (12 February 2015). "Costa Concordia captain likely to avoid jail for up to five years". The Guardian. Retrieved 5 January 2023.
  2. ^ Parca, Gabriella (21 December 1952). "Cippico condannato a 9 anni; Dove sono gli 800 milioni?" (PDF). L'Unità (in Italian). Retrieved 5 January 2023. II Tribunale ha ordinato che la pena inflitta al Puccini sia sospesa per anni cinque alle condizioni di legge.