Talk:Evil Genius (video game)

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Sequel?[edit]

After the credits of this game, it says "The End...or is it?". Would that imply that there might be a sequel to this game or is it just a joke? --Chris16447 21:24, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Problems[edit]

Don't want to sound naggy, but this article is quite unprofessional, you make personal comments about the minions and it just feels a little like a review or a guide.

Cheers


The criticism part is not a summary of problems but a rant written by a disgruntled player.

Indeed, I'm tempted to simply delete the entirety of the criticism section following the sentence ending '...not fixed in the official patch.', far too POV. mode_seven 22:20, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I was not only tempted, I went ahead and deleted it. It was absolutely terrible. - KingRaptor 01:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd say you did a good job with it. Much better. Skooma2112 16:53, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Minions[edit]

Having the minions grouped by tier doesn't seem useful for this sort of article. I think it would be clearer if they were grouped by type -- i.e., military, science, and social minions. Chrismith 20:45, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and reorganized the section, and also rewrote several pieces of information that were either misleading or just plain wrong. Chrismith 22:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Evil Genius article[edit]

I love this game! and i had a look on the evilplanet.com forums a few times recently and it seems that Rebellion have bought the rights to elixir games and one of their lead programmers (or something like that) is "very interested" in "doing something" with evil genius.

The look of Superagent Mamba...[edit]

Is it just me, or does she look like Honey Ryder played by Ursula Andress. If I correctly, she wields a dagger in an attack, and her outfit is very similar to Ryder.

• She does. Many of the games characters are obvious caricatures of bond legends and other film persona, like Rambo, Bruce Lee etc

wouldn't it also be likely that shes a spoof of black mamba in kill bill (uma thurman)

Possibly, but it also could be that she is also named after the snake. Chronolegion 12:55, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Move page[edit]

This article should be moved to Evil Genius (computer game). SharkD 06:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Done.SharkD 01:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Gameplay[edit]

Is this game real-time or turn-based? SharkD 06:15, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

RTS Chronolegion 12:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

This article needs a dedicated gameplay section (maybe to replace all the unit cruft?). SharkD 01:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Jubei[edit]

The samurai Jubei is probably a parody on the main character in the Manga-movie Ninja-Scroll, and the manga-series with the same title. Might be a good thing to add a reference.

Yagyu_Jubei was a real guy. 82.30.172.173 (talk) 10:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Forces of Justice[edit]

I was wondering, the names for the Justice factions are abbreviations, so what do they stand for?24.118.227.213 23:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Good Question. The Soviet Bloc is labeled "H.A.M.M.E.R.," which covers the Soviet Union and Cuba. But I see a lack of C's and S's in the name(Communist and Socialist respectively). Maybe it means something in Cyrillic instead? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.154.199.220 (talk) 09:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't think the factions' acronyms actually stand for anything--they seem to be spoofs of the sort of highly unlikely acronyms you get in a lot of spy-related media (The Man from U.N.C.L.E., Get Smart, and so on). If they do stand for something (which I haven't seen any evidence for, in-game or out), the "actual names" were probably created to fit the acronyms, rather than the other way around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.252.254.20 (talk) 21:55, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

God Game genre?[edit]

I disagree with this genre

A real-time strategy (RTS) video game is a strategic game that is distinctly not turn-based.

Where as a God Game is

God games are characterized by gameplay in which the player makes optional interventions in the game world, for instance in the form of miracles or calamities, rather than being necessary for its continual progression. Unlike normal strategy games, the user does not directly control the simulated inhabitants of the game world, and instead must affect the world and influence its subjects without directly controlling them; there is a minimum of "click-select-order" gameplay. With some exceptions, god games tend toward large scales, where the player controls or affects entire realms, continents or worlds, which are viewed from an elevated, aloft perspective.

I would say that Evil Genius - you, as a player, are very much in control of the Evil Genius and through that character influence and build your environment by issuing commands to your minions. --198.150.76.150 (talk) 18:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I would suppose the classification came from the fact that you cannot control your minions directly. However, I agree that in other respects it bears far more resemblance to the accepted definition of a RTS. mode_seven (talk) 21:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Why not simply put in 'RTS/God game'? --88.159.88.176 (talk) 20:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I have to disagree with RTS and God Game. Evil Genius uses the point-and-click to move and interact elements of an RTS, but there is no real enemy you must crush by sending wave after wave of your minions, tech trees or resource management, which are staples of RTSs. In Evil Genius, you do not control, as Wikipedia defines it a being with divine or supernatural powers. You are simply an Evil Genius with minions and henchmen. I have no idea how to categorize it, but it probably doesn't belong in RTS or God Game. Maybe Sui generis will do in a stretch. Just my 2 cents.--211.30.135.19 (talk) 11:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

The Force of Justice are similar to the real wolrd counter terrorist organizations[edit]

Possibly, during the sixties. Back then it was a perfectly reasonable idea to send just a few mooks at a time(and maybe a super agent too) against an army of minions and henchmen intent on world domination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.154.199.220 (talk) 09:51, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Released on GOG[edit]

Could someone make a change to the page to include that it is available for download through GoG.com? http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/evil_genius —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.186.146.15 (talk) 17:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup[edit]

I've done something of a cleanup, but this needs more. "Funds are earned by sending minions into the regions and stealing them." The whole region? Now that would be evil.

Generally, the article needs to be strongly on the player and the game, rather than specifics of the in game world, and explain things from a neutral perspective. -- Aronzak (talk) 07:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Well they did miniturize the Eiffel tower and steal it. 92.7.25.145 (talk) 20:28, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

I've cleaned up the article a bit more and tried to add neutral commentary on gameplay but it still needs a lot more work. It could do with additional citations too. Lofaesofa (talk) 15:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Assessment[edit]

Assessed as Start; lacks any creation info; reception section is lacking and poorly written, only sporting one reference [not counting the table]; Gameplay section is over-detailed. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 10:54, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Reassessment[edit]

Came here via the reassessment request in the project box. Bumping this up to C-class; here are a few things I noticed while looking through the article:

  • The lead isn't summarizing the reception section
  • Gameplay has several unreferenced paragraphs/statements
  • A development section would be nice. And since the score won a BAFTA, is there any music information out there?
  • The reception section is awkwardly worded, especially the intro paragraph
  • Actually I think the source is wrong, and it wasn't nominated for a BAFTA at all according to this. Which will make it even harder to get sources on the game's development. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 14:26, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Reception is better set up as split into themes (reviewers' thoughts on graphics, gameplay, design, etc.) instead of split by reviewer, or at least with similar reviews clumped together so you're not just repeating yourself. Also, no individual reviewer scores, that's what the table is there for.
  • You have 6 reviewers in the table but only 3 in the text; where are the other 3?
  • "Sequel" is half quote, try to paraphrase
  • You're mixing date styles in the references, pick one style
--PresN 22:02, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Just checked the page history; basically what I'm seeing is that you went through on April 11 and overhauled the article, massively cleaning up what was already there. Great job! It's a lot better. Next step is to look for other sources to cite. --PresN 22:05, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Appreciate the review PresN; confirmed some of what I thought was wrong about the article and needs amending, but always worth getting an outside opinion and direction. MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 14:01, 17 April 2015 (UTC)