Talk:Florida International University/Archive 1
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Location of FIU
The introductory paragraph states that FIU is in Miami. The postal address may use Miami, but that doesn't mean the campus is in the city limits of Miami. It is west of the city limits. Any decent map can verify this. It would be correct to say that FIU is in Miami Dade County. - Marc Averette 22:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
It's clearly in Westchester, as described in other Wikipedia article:
Westchester is a census-designated place (CDP) in suburban Miami-Dade County, Florida, United States. The population was 30,271 at the 2000 census.
Westchester is also the name of the unincorporated community that encompasses both the Westchester CDP and the University Park CDP. The approximate limits of the community of Westchester are considered to be SW 8th Street (Tamiami Trail) on the north side, SW 40th Street (Bird Road) on the south side, SW 117th Avenue (bordering the Homestead Extension of Florida's Turnpike) on the west side, and the Palmetto Expressway on the east side.
GA on hold
There are a few really obvious issues that need to be addressed before this can pass GA. For starters, references 4, 5, 21, and 44 (as they are in this version of the article ) are no longer active links. Please try to find existing sources to back up the claims that the old links were referencing.
Also, while I appreciate the bounty of images in the article, Image:Florida International University Seal.png, Image:FIUGoldenPanthers.png, Image:Fiu logo2.gif, and Image:Panther rage.gif are uploaded with boilerplate fair use templates, but they do not have rationales expressed for why they are fair use in this article.
Otherwise, the article looks pretty good; I'll give it a more thorough look once these issues are addressed. Tromboneguy0186 (talk) 08:52, 22 November 2007 (UTC) This has all been taken care of, thank you. Tromboneguy0186 (talk) 04:37, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
:Just one more thing. In the "Superstitions and legends" section, the following is uncited:
- Another university legend is that of the grave of FIU's first university president, Charles Perry. Perry had requested to be buried at FIU before he died, and was buried under the old University Tower. However, due to construction, his grave had to be moved and was moved across the lake from the tower. Since then, people have said he haunts the area and crosses the lake late at night to his original grave site. This legend becomes popular around Halloween for Halloween events and the university ghost tours.
Please cite it or remove it. Tromboneguy0186 (talk) 04:37, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
This too has been taken care of. Tromboneguy0186 (talk) 04:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
GA review
GA review (see here for criteria)
- Is it reasonably well written?
- A. Prose quality:
- B. MoS compliance:
I'm not crazy about the embedded list in the "Academics" section, but in this case it probably is better than a series of run-on sentences.
- A. Prose quality:
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. References to sources:
I might have liked a few more third-party sources, but I feel the article is sufficiently sourced.
- B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
- C. No original research:
- A. References to sources:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
- B. Focused:
Both of these are exemplary.
- A. Major aspects:
- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Again, very well done in this area.
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
I am pleased to pass this article by the GA criteria. Congratulations to the editors who worked so hard on improving it. If you feel this assessment is in error, you may take it to Good article reassessment Tromboneguy0186 (talk) 05:01, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Bar passage rates.
The description of bar passage rates is a bit misleading. FIU led the state in the February 2007 Bar, but not in the July 2007 Bar (nor any other general Bar exam). It also lead in the August 2007 MPRE (I think in the 2006 MPRE as well) but not in the Feburary 2007 MPRE. Cheers! bd2412 T 05:05, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- I reworded the law school rankings to clarify between the two rankings. Let me know what you think. --Comayagua99 (talk) 05:12, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Misleading Photograph
The photograph of meteorologists at work on the main page of the article says " Meteorologists at work at FIU's International Hurricane Research Center in 1970." Yet if you look at the sign in the photograph it says the location is at the National Hurricane Center, which in 1970 was not located on the campus of FIU. From 1964 to 1995 the NHC was located on the campus of the University of Miami or across Dixie Highway at Gables One Tower (see: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/mfl/history/ ) In fact, Wikipedia's own article about the NHC even states it did not move to FIU until 1995. The caption under the photograph and the presence of the photograph so prominently on FIU's page implies FIU had something to do with the photograph which does not appear to be true. Sirberus (talk) 03:18, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- The description also claims the photo is of the International Hurricane Research Center and differentiates it from the National Hurricane Center. Except that the IHRC's own website states that it wasn't created until 1996 ( http://www.ihc.fiu.edu/about_us/history.htm ) 65.2.189.170 (talk) 20:50, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
"Metropolitan Miami" or "West of Miami"
Let's settle this here, through rational discussion, not by making edits back and forth in the article. What are the facts? bd2412 T 16:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- The FACTS are that the FIU campus is in University Park, Florida. Another FACT is that University Park is located due west of the city of Miami, Florida. This is more specific than saying metro area. Isn't an encylopedia about being the most specific? Miamiboyzinhere (talk) 16:27, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- FIU is in University Park, Florida in metropolitan Miami. This had been settled a while back, to be worded the same as the University of Miami ("Coral Gables in metropolitan Miami"). University Park specifies its exact location in Miami-Dade County, metropolitan Miami specifies the city it associates with and the area it represents. The university brands itself as "Miami's public research university" and all its addresses list Miami, therefore, I think it makes more sense to leave it as it is. --Comayagua99 (talk) 18:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- Is it within the Miami city limits? I always thought that the main campus was in Sweetwater, although there certainly are campuses all around South Florida. Maybe the lead should refer to the general presence of the University, rather than the main campus. bd2412 T 18:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- Good point. FIU isn't just at University Park, it's in Downtown Miami, North Miami, Pembroke Pines, Homestead, etc. All of which are in the Miami metropolitan area, therefore, I think it's best to leave it as is, to better explain FIU's range. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Comayagua99 (talk • contribs) 18:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- Is it within the Miami city limits? I always thought that the main campus was in Sweetwater, although there certainly are campuses all around South Florida. Maybe the lead should refer to the general presence of the University, rather than the main campus. bd2412 T 18:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- FIU is in University Park, Florida in metropolitan Miami. This had been settled a while back, to be worded the same as the University of Miami ("Coral Gables in metropolitan Miami"). University Park specifies its exact location in Miami-Dade County, metropolitan Miami specifies the city it associates with and the area it represents. The university brands itself as "Miami's public research university" and all its addresses list Miami, therefore, I think it makes more sense to leave it as it is. --Comayagua99 (talk) 18:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
The first sentence of the article is ONLY talking about the main campus. Which is *more specifically* WEST OF MIAMI Miamiboyzinhere (talk) 16:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Pembroke Pines is in Broward County. It's better to say South Florida metropolitan area. Miamiboyzinhere (talk) 18:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- Which is metropolitan Miami. It makes more sense to leave it as "with its main campus in University Park in metropolitan Miami", it's pretty clear and straight forward. It addresses the location of the main campus within the university's larger extent. --Comayagua99 (talk) 03:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think Broward can really be said to be "metropolitan Miami", but more than 90% of the University's operations can definitely be described as being in metropolitan Miami. Last I checked, 3/4 of students attend the University Park campus, close to 1/4 attend the N. Miami campus, and there are classes offered in both Downtown Miami and on South Beach. bd2412 T 03:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Which is metropolitan Miami. It makes more sense to leave it as "with its main campus in University Park in metropolitan Miami", it's pretty clear and straight forward. It addresses the location of the main campus within the university's larger extent. --Comayagua99 (talk) 03:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- Pembroke Pines is in Broward County. It's better to say South Florida metropolitan area. Miamiboyzinhere (talk) 18:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
The first sentence of the article is ONLY talking about the main campus. Which is *more specifically* WEST OF MIAMI
- Can we see a map, please, with the location of the campus and the boundaries of "metropolitan Miami"? bd2412 T 23:31, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Vote West The main campus is more specifically west of Miami. Anything more specific, like 8th street and 107th avenue, is too much information. Anything more general, like metro Miami, can be further refined. Timhowardriley (talk) 02:40, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Evidence, please. Where does "Metropolitan Miami" end? bd2412 T 05:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Metropolitan Miami is anywhere from Palm Beach County to anywhere in Miami-Dade County. Hence, FIU is in the Miami metro area. --Comayagua99 (talk) 05:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
This whole debate is so ridiculous. Adding the external link to a google map image does not aid people at all since the coordinates of the university and university maps are already linked in the article. The intro is confusing if we say "located here in UP, Miami, Fl, USA". The previous intro statement is clearer "located in UP in metro Miami, FL in the USA". I don't understand what the big commotion is about. It IS in University Park and the university IS in metro Miami. What's the problem? --Comayagua99 (talk) 17:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Regarding, "This whole debate is so ridiculous": look in a mirror. Timhowardriley (talk) 21:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- ? --Comayagua99 (talk) 21:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, here is a map of Miami-Dade county. To find FIU-UP, noe need only draw a line going due west from Coral Gables, and another due south from Westchester. FIU lies at the intersection of those lines. I think it would be entirely accurate to say "with its main campus located at the heart of metropolitan Miami-Dade County". How does that sound? bd2412 T 23:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- What about "located in metropolitan Miami, Florida, in the United States, with its main campus in University Park". I think that's satisfies both parties. It identifies the range of the university as FIU has campuses in Broward, and throughout Miami-Dade (Miami metro area), and then it specifies the location of the main campus at University Park. --Comayagua99 (talk) 01:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- But isn't University Park simply the name of the campus? It seems we are saying that University Park is located in University Park. How about we instead say that its main campus is West of Coral Gables and south of Westchester? bd2412 T 02:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- University Park is the name of the campus and the CDP name of the area within Miami-Dade is called University Park, after the university. If one clicks on the link to the University Park, Florida article, it shows you exactly where in Miami it is. Therefore, I don't think it's really necessary to add landmarks to identify its location. University Park is pretty specific location already. --Comayagua99 (talk) 02:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- I find that unhelpful. University Park is a disambiguation page indicating about a dozen places by that name, and even though there is one particular "place" in Florida with that name, a person with only a surface familiarity with the area would gain no guidance from that description. A lot more people will be familiar with the location of Coral Gables, or of the airport, as a reference point. bd2412 T 04:38, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- University Park is the name of the campus and the CDP name of the area within Miami-Dade is called University Park, after the university. If one clicks on the link to the University Park, Florida article, it shows you exactly where in Miami it is. Therefore, I don't think it's really necessary to add landmarks to identify its location. University Park is pretty specific location already. --Comayagua99 (talk) 02:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- But isn't University Park simply the name of the campus? It seems we are saying that University Park is located in University Park. How about we instead say that its main campus is West of Coral Gables and south of Westchester? bd2412 T 02:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- What about "located in metropolitan Miami, Florida, in the United States, with its main campus in University Park". I think that's satisfies both parties. It identifies the range of the university as FIU has campuses in Broward, and throughout Miami-Dade (Miami metro area), and then it specifies the location of the main campus at University Park. --Comayagua99 (talk) 01:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, here is a map of Miami-Dade county. To find FIU-UP, noe need only draw a line going due west from Coral Gables, and another due south from Westchester. FIU lies at the intersection of those lines. I think it would be entirely accurate to say "with its main campus located at the heart of metropolitan Miami-Dade County". How does that sound? bd2412 T 23:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
- ? --Comayagua99 (talk) 21:35, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
External links
Per our policy that "Wikipedia is not a directory of links" and our external links policy, I removed the following links from this article:
- Florida International University Admissions - Official website
- Florida International University Alumni - Official website
- Virtual FIU campus tour
- The Beacon - Student newspaper
- WRGP Radiate FM - Student radio
- FIU Bookstore - Official website
- FIU license plates
- FIU Insider
I believe these links, in the aggregate, (a) add little value to this article and (b) move it away from being an encyclopedia article and towards being a directory of links. Another editor apparently disagrees and contests the removal of these links. Thoughts? --ElKevbo (talk) 02:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think the bookstore and the "license plates" links should definitely be out, since they serve purely commercial purposes. The admissions, alumni, and campus tour pages should probably stay, as they are likely to be sources of the kind of information people would look for. I am ambivalent about the Beacon and WRGP, but have no strong objection to them. The "FIU Insider" is actually a link to an external website with a subpage of FIU athletic news, and I have no preference about this either. bd2412 T 04:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- I definitely agree about the bookstore and license plates links and I would include the scouts.com ("FIU Insider") link, too. I do not agree with the other links as this is an encyclopedia article, not an admissions brochure. I do not contest that they may have truthful and potentially valuable information but we must draw a line somewhere and my experience with many other college and university articles is that we should err on the side of non-inclusion lest the article turn into a de facto directory of links. --ElKevbo (talk) 20:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with BD2412 on this one, the bookstore and license plate links need to go and the admissions, alumni and campus tour links are all very important to that article and need to stay. The other links are also important and pertain to the article, such as "FIU Insider", other links such as WRGP and The Beacon however, can probably go. For example, the campus tour link is extremely helpful and informative. People come to this article, to look for information on FIU, the video gives you a easy-to-understand "this is FIU" aid to what the university. If anything, that video is crutial to the article and extremely helpful. --Comayagua99 (talk) 05:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- I'll buy the campus tour site but what's so special about the Scouts.com site (don't be fooled by the "FIU Insider" nonsense)? And precisely what information on the admissions and alumni sites are so special as to merit inclusion of the links in an encyclopedia article? --ElKevbo (talk) 12:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with BD2412 on this one, the bookstore and license plate links need to go and the admissions, alumni and campus tour links are all very important to that article and need to stay. The other links are also important and pertain to the article, such as "FIU Insider", other links such as WRGP and The Beacon however, can probably go. For example, the campus tour link is extremely helpful and informative. People come to this article, to look for information on FIU, the video gives you a easy-to-understand "this is FIU" aid to what the university. If anything, that video is crutial to the article and extremely helpful. --Comayagua99 (talk) 05:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- I definitely agree about the bookstore and license plates links and I would include the scouts.com ("FIU Insider") link, too. I do not agree with the other links as this is an encyclopedia article, not an admissions brochure. I do not contest that they may have truthful and potentially valuable information but we must draw a line somewhere and my experience with many other college and university articles is that we should err on the side of non-inclusion lest the article turn into a de facto directory of links. --ElKevbo (talk) 20:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Location
I hate to interrupt the petty little edit war occurring here but there does seem to be some pretty good evidence supporting our anonymous friend's assertion that this institution is in a suburban location west of Miami. Can someone - anyone! - please discuss this and present evidence instead of continuing to edit war and revert others? --ElKevbo (talk) 02:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi! Actually, if you look on the talk page just two sections up, this discussion was already made (West of Miami or Metropolitan Miami). The consensus was that "located in Metropolitan Miami with its main campus in University Park" or "in University Park in Metropolitan Miami" pleased everyone because it A. specificied that it was in University Park and B. explains that FIU is not just in University Park but throughout metropolitan Miami (North Miami, Downtown, University Park, Homestead, Pembroke Pines, etc). Hope that helps clarify the reasoning. --Comayagua99 (talk) 02:57, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- I see neither a consensus in the above discussion nor much actual evidence. And that certainly doesn't excuse anyone who is participating in the current edit war. --ElKevbo (talk) 03:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah. and why does he keep reverting the truthful SUBurban back to urban? That is tantamount to vandalism. Suburban is 100% verifyable —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.211.229.4 (talk) 05:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Independent Sources
- I find it a bit concerning that most of the citations in this article, especially those that speak about the quality and recognition of FIU's degree and research programs, are to the University's own websites. It seems that citing exclusively to these sources detracts from the article's credibility. Without independent sources, this article seems to be a mere extension of the University's own website and lacks the independence desired of encyclopedic articles. Bpiereck (talk) 01:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- I tried to cite all the sentences you marked as "citation needed" with articles I could find online. For most of these statements, there are many websites referring to them, many not University-affiliated. You're free to add more references and replace the ones I've listed if you don't like them. --Comayagua99 (talk) 01:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I am a bit concern about the source for the endowment. I noticed the amount was changed with a very small article as the source about Madique. The article says the endowment is about $110mil. ABOUT? The article wasn't about the endowment so who knows what research was done by the author. He/she might have been using here-say and used the word "about" to cover any inaccuracy. Most references for endowment is sourced to university web pages, published foundation annual reports and other websites that publish endowment information.--Jatblue (talk) 17:08, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Renaming school pages
What do you guys think about renaming school pages like Florida International University School of Architecture to FIU School of Architecture? It'd be easier for inclusion in articles and I don't really think spelling out Florida International University is really necessary. ~ digx t·c 12:49, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- I think that's a pretty good idea. As long as in the first line of text it states "Florida International University", it's fine with me. --Comayagua99 (talk) 15:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. Using full names is important, as that is what people will be searching for. Yes I know a redirect would take care of that, but if you are going to have a redirect with the full name why not have the main page with the full name. Then nobody is in doubt about what it is, and we don't have to worry about other institutions with the initials FIU. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
More Photos Needed
More photos need to be added to this page. The article is very large and there are not enough photos. If anyone has relevant photos of the campus please add them.
-Has this been resolved? Because I see plenty...67.191.92.195 (talk) 04:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, this has been resolved. There are now plenty of pictures. Thanks though. --Comayagua99 (talk) 05:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Largest Library in the Southeast?
I am not sure which one that claims this is true, but Nova Southeastern claims the largest library in florida ref: http://www.nova.edu/library/about/message.html Last update was on August 7th, 2008. So I am thinking the FIU library may be the tallest library building in the southeast, but not the biggest. SQFT FIU 230,000 and NSU is 325,000. So I might reword that part of the article saying it is the largest, but rather the tallest. Dgreco (talk) 17:15, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Rankings
The rankings are a bit misleading. While there is much written under the headline "rankings", (and it is all conveniently) positive, the US news and World Report, 2008 rankings (which is a major and notable source for ranking colleges) listed FIU as a (National Universities, fourth tier) was omitted. Shouldn't this be included in the rankings to make the article more "balanced"? 24.189.35.249 (talk) 21:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
On the same topic, citations #9 and 10, which support the claim that FIU is "the most selective university in Florida," do not link to any relevant material concerning acceptance rate, incoming stats, etc. This is a rather contentious issue (I can already hear the complaints coming from Gainesville and Coral Gables) so either this needs to be supported by some comparative data or I'm going to remove the entire statement. Lmeister (talk) 12:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Those claims come from comparing FIU's 2008 admissions rate of 33.1% with that of all the SUS-Florida universities (State University System of Florida) as well as with comparative private institutions such as UMiami and Nova Southeastern. UM had a 2008 admissions rate of 38.6%, and UF an admissions rate of 36.9% (data which comes from each university's admissions data website), which are two of Florida's most presitigious schools, so at 33.1%, FIU has a lower admissions rate than both those and all other SUS and private schools, making it the most selective university in Florida. --Comayagua99 (talk) 14:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds awful ORish to me. If you'd like to compare admissions rates then do so. But leaping from a relatively simple metric of "admissions" to a more complex metric like "selectivity" is a leap. --ElKevbo (talk) 15:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
President
Shouldn't we replace Maidique with Rosenberg as president?Feindfahrt (talk) 22:15, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
History
- Please explain the sentence, "Eighty percent of the student body had just graduated from Dade County Junior College (now Miami-Dade College)." To what time period does this statement make reference? Is there a source?
- The article does not explain the school's name. The history section says it was founded as a state-supported college for southern Florida. We need to explain how it ended up with the word "International" in its name.
- Please identify the fourth president in the history section, Modesto A. Maidique (1986-2009). Also, consider moving the table of Presidents into the History Section. Racepacket (talk) 04:53, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
- 1. The 80% figure is referring to 1972, the first year of classes, it's pretty clear, since the first sentence starts with "In September 1972..."
2. Good point. 3. Added.
Campus and facilities
Consider merging these into one section. The WP:UNI guidelines suggest moving the campus section to be right after the History section. How do "facilities" differ from campus? Racepacket (talk) 04:53, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Name
How did Florida International University get its name (that is the International part of its name)?71.142.222.247 (talk) 08:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Phi Beta Kappa reference
The intro paragraph included the statement "FIU is also the youngest university to be awarded a Phi Beta Kappa chapter by the Phi Beta Kappa Society, the country's oldest and most distinguished academic honor society." I deleted the phrase "and most distinguished", a subjective judgement not directly supported by the main Phi Beta Kappa Society article. Fenwayguy 04:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I agree with your reasoning, however anyone involved in higher education clearly knows that Phi beta Kappa is the standard bearer for academic excellence. I challenge anybody to mention another honor society that can match it, both in terms of prestige and history? 24.189.35.249 (talk) 20:08, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The quote "the country's oldest and most distinguished academic honor society.[5] FIU is one of only 78 universities nationwide to hold both designations.[48]" is directly taken (word-for-word) from the link, without even giving the OTHER DESIGNATION in the article. (That would be that 'In 2000, FIU received the highest research university ranking conferred by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching.') 98.100.6.20 (talk) 00:29, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Good article?
With several substantial and unreferenced claims in the ranking section, this article may be overdue for a Good Article review... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- Would it be sufficient to clean up that section or are you suggesting/suspecting that there are more widespread problems? ElKevbo (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
- I see numerous unreferenced paragraphs and even entire sections ("International Hurricane Research Center") in the article, so I'd say widespread. Nothing that couldn't be fixed with an hour or two of referencing, but if nobody does that, I am afraid degrading to B-class will be warranted. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:19, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Campus Renaming
The main FIU Campus is no longer called "University Park." With the induction of the new president (Rosenberg), the campus has been renamed to "Modesto A. Maidique Campus", or MMC for short. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.94.186.10 (talk) 16:37, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
"Most selective public university" in the state of Florida
I removed a couple of sentences which stated that FIU is ranked as the most selective public university in the state of Florida. I understand that whoever put that statement there is going by the USNews admissions rates, but this is a mistake. You cannot judge a school's selectivity simply by its admission rate. A school may receive large numbers of unqualified applicants and be forced to reject them, leading to a "low" admission rate. Another school may receive mostly qualified candidates, leading to a "high" admission rate. The most recent USNews ranking actually categorizes FIU as "selective" (http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/florida-international-university-9635) while other Florida schools, such as UF and FSU are both listed as "more selective." This directly contradicts the statement that FIU is the most selective.
--Mister Tog (talk) 04:10, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
"Most selective"
There's an issue with the claims that "Florida International University" is the "most selective" university in Florida. The "quick facts" link that is supposed to have backed it up is dead; the current version makes no such claim.[1] It's also a bit off to use a college's own website as a source for such a claim. I haven't found any third-party sources that actually make this claim either directly or indirectly; if none can be found the information needs to be removed.--Cúchullain t/c 18:01, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- The claim appears to be not not totally true. In the most recent state university statistics on admissions and headcounts, available here, FIU does have the lowest admission rate for first-time-in-college freshmen of all state universities. However, it accepts more transfers than almost any other school in the system, so its total admission rate is only 4th lowest. And these statistics are only for state universities, no source compares this statistic to private universities. This had better go.--Cúchullain t/c 18:07, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Delete the "Superstitions and legends" section
The sourcing is bad (dead links, and even if they were live, unreliable sources), and the section is otherwise fairly nonsensical. bd2412 T 02:15, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Notable faculty
Is it worth noting that presidential candidate Marco Rubio teaches a class in political science there a couple of days a week? [1][2] Larry Koenigsberg (talk) 18:33, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
External links modified
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Dean Colson
Mention? A simple google search will show his notability and role with FIU. https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2017/04/01/mark-meadows-has-taken-chances-rapid-rise-power/99865648/
https://www.colson.com/personal-injury-law-firm/attorney-dean-colson
His significant contributions to the Law department might should be a part of the article.
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I removed the citation [113] "taken for a ride" because the information or link that was previously provided does not longer work. No information was changed in "Campus Transportation". I checked, and everything seems to be relevant to the remaining source [112]. Charlesoto (talk) 21:49, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi there. Is University Park any longer a CDP? As far as I can see, there is no Census data for 2020. Has the place merged with another one for Census purposes? Regards, Dionysos1988 (talk) 13:03, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
Yes. University Park CDP has been absorbed by Westchester CDP. That is why University Park does not have 2020 Census data, and why Westchester’s population doubled from 2010 to 2020. This article should be updated to reflect that, and so should other articles pertaining to the university. Mcleanm302 (talk) 10:24, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Is CDP supposed to be used to indicate the location of FIU? (Is this Wikipedia policy to use CDP to indicate the location?) The postal address of FIU main campus is "Miami, FL 33199". Qzxas (talk) 17:59, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
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The link to Jack Gordon in the text of this article is to a page referencing the wrong Jack Gordon. Senator Gordon was older and not involved with LaToya Jackson.
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