Talk:Gülbahar Hatun (mother of Selim I)

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Origin

Her origin is debatable. This article claims she is from Trabzon and of Greek descent. The article Selim I claims she is from Kahramanmaraş and of Oghuz descent. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:10, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion about Gülbahar Hatun

Gülbahar Hatun portrayed in the film Fetih (Conquest) 1453 is not the same as this person (Gülbahar Sultan) but is actually Emine Gülbahar (Ottoman Turkish: آمنة گلبهار), first wife of Sultan Mehmed II (Mehmet the Conqueror) and Valide Sultan to Sultan Bayezid II, whose wife is this person (Gülbahar Sultan). Hence Gülbahar Sultan is the second Gülbahar Hatun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ash wki (talk • contribs) 16:08, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The theory

I have a theory about Gulbahar Hatun and Bayezid: 1. Ayse Hatun was wife of Bayezid II, mother of Selim I and nephew of Sitti Mukrime Hatun. If Mukrime was mother of Bayezid II, his marriage with Ayse Hatun would be incest and Selim would be deformed. 2. Gulbahar Hatun is widely regarded as Bayezid II's mother even in modern times. An example is a famous historical movie: Fetih 1453. 3. Sourcces that suport Mukrime Hatun theory are only two modern cites and they are low-reliable sources. 4. Bayezid II was born in 3 December 1447, while Mukrime Hatun was married to Mehmed II in 15 December 1449. Two years after Bayezid's birth. While Gulbahar Hatun was the first wife of Mehmed II and they married in 1446, a year before Bayezid II's birth. 5. Sitti Mukrime Hatun's wedding served as an alliance. And it wasn't in Mehmet II's liking. Probobly Mukrime was childles and died alone in the old palace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlbertBikaj (talk • contribs) 09:53, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why Stepmother???

Selim's.I, biological mother "Gülbahar Sultan" died in 1510, only 10 years before Selim's own death in 1520.!

Thus Selim took no step-mother anymore LOL.

So many things are really very surprising that some write in Wikipedia.

Doe's no any have see it bevore?

Gülbahar Sultan was born in 1453 and died in 1510

Selim I. was born in 1470, he's reign was until 1512 since he's died in 1520.

Dilek2 (talk) 17:10, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Origin

It's alredy sourced that Turkish origin is rejected by scholars. Don't add pseudo-history in behalf of your dreams.Psikomania (talk) 13:53, 28 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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"Dulkadirid princess"

@Sira Aspera, I see that you have been removing this category. I first thought you had reverted my addition of the category by mistake originally intending to revert other edits by IPs, but given you have specifically removed the category this time, I believe this requires a discussion, especially since you have not provided any explanation. Categories are meant to be helpful. The fact that there are different views or theories on where she was from does not disqualify her from getting categorized as being from the dynasty of Dulkadir. Aintabli (talk) 15:59, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]