Talk:Gary Hooper

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Good article Gary Hooper has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
October 29, 2011 Good article nominee Listed

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Gary Hooper/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jmorrison230582 (talk · contribs) 22:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    The lead section is too short to fully summarise the article, as it does not even mention some of the teams he has played for. The rest of the article needs to be copy edited, as there are some weaknesses, overlinking for example.
The lead section has been expanded and now covers all aspects of his career. There may be too much about his international career, if so then I will trim this a bit. Adam4267 (talk) 21:34, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
The lead is an acceptable length now. The article needs a copy edit, eg use – for scores and seasons. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
  1. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    The article is factually accurate and well referenced.
  2. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    There are no details of his early life (schooling and youth teams). The infobox states Hooper was a youth team player at Spurs, but this is not mentioned in the article. In terms of the focus of the article, there is a lot of detail about his efforts in the year or so at Celtic, but a lack of detail about his previous clubs, particularly Scunthorpe, where he was first widely noticed. Even in respect of his time with Celtic, the article omits the reported interest of Premier League clubs in signing Hooper in August 2011 [1]. The playing style section should mention that he has formed a good partnership with Anthony Stokes, but that it has been noted that he has had discomfort with playing as lone striker.
There is a little bit more in the early career section but I have struggled to find sources for it. Each club section has been expanded fairly substantially and I think there is a better weighting to the article. I actually discovered that a lot of what was in this article was actually wrong but it has been corrected now. Adam4267 (talk) 21:34, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
The breadth of the article is much better now, as all areas are at least covered in some detail. The sourcing for each area is good. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
  1. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
    I think this is subject to some of the omissions mentioned above, but the article is a fair representation of his career to date. Another point would be that it doesn't represent the fact it is unusual for a player to drop to such a low level (albeit at a young age), to (successfully) playing for one of the bigger clubs in Great Britain within the space of a few years (cf Stan Collymore, Ian Wright).
The article now has a better weighting too it, so that should be cleared up. I am still trying find a source for this and when I do will add it to the article. Adam4267 (talk) 21:34, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
The balance of the article is good now. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
  1. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
    There was some activity in August, which had to be reverted, when Hooper was linked with a move to Wolves. This appears to have been a temporary problem, however.
  2. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Three free images are provided.
  3. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    I think the article needs some work to broaden its coverage, but is possible to reach GA standard within a short period. I think the article is close to passing, merely needing a copy edit. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Ok I have copy edited the article and hopefully fixed all remaining issues. Adam4267 (talk) 23:44, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Good work since the initial review. Thanks. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 02:54, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • The Grays Athletic section doesn't scan correctly. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 06:31, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Three of the references are to dead links (two to Hereford United FC and one to Yahoo). Jmorrison230582 (talk) 06:31, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. Adam4267 (talk) 21:34, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Most of the detail of his successful loan spell with Hereford is about one disputed goal, which therefore has undue weight. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 06:31, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Removed. Adam4267 (talk) 21:34, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

  • I don't think the article fully reflects the divisional movements of Southend and Scunthorpe during his time with each club, particularly his role in getting Scunthorpe into and staying in the Championship (which is probably above their natural level). Jmorrison230582 (talk) 06:31, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
What sort of improvements would you make to the page? And remember it has to be NPOV, which might be dificult with this topic.Meatsgains (talk) 03:00, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

change the main pciture of him to one were he is wearing the hoops — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.140.178 (talk) 01:42, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Untitled[edit]

the 'international career' bit is rather long and hard to read, especially since he has never had an 'international career'(78.148.238.247 (talk) 21:06, 9 June 2015 (UTC))

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