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A fact from George Mann Niedecken appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 July 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that George Mann Niedecken was a Prairie-style interior architect who designed furniture for Frank Lloyd Wright and worked for Marion Mahony Griffin?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/July. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George Mann Niedecken.

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 23:09, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that George Mann Niedecken was a prairie style interior architect who designed furniture for Frank Lloyd Wright? Source: Niedecken contributed to 11 more Wright commissions, providing fabrication and installation of furniture, textiles, lighting fixtures and other decorative arts, which he and Wright designed jointly or individually.
- ALT1: ~~... that George Mann Niedecken was an interior architect who worked with the first woman architect in the United States?~~ Source: Contributing to the legacy of Wright’s Prairie years were a group of talented young draftsmen, architects and artists drawn to the Studio by Wright’s vision. These included Marion Mahony, the first practicing woman architect in America, ...George Mann Niedecken etc.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Lester Errington

Created by Bruxton (talk). Self-nominated at 03:15, 14 June 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting career, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The first hook as fine, but I could imagine to do justice to the woman by mentioning her also by name in the same hook. Feel free to try ALT2 below. - In the article (not needed to change all for approval, but some):

I miss an infobox
I am no friend of "Niedecken" in consecutive sentences.
I am used to items being linked from both lead and prose.
"attended" + "studied" for the same institute (twice) seems too much to me
The Robertson book could join the last comment, to not leave that so short. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Thanks for the review. I performed some quick fixes on the article. I appreciate the guidance.

ALT1a: ... that interior architect George Mann Niedecken worked with Marion Mahony Griffin, one of the first women architects in the United States?

Wasn't sure how to work it in there. I thought it may make people click to learn if I left it out. Bruxton (talk) 14:17, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We can never be sure. I believe that connecting the perhaps unknown interior designer to some name known (FLW) would help more than some unnamed unknown woman, just for a "first" (and the article only says "one of the first". My solution would be:

ALT2: ... that George Mann Niedecken was a prairie style interior architect who designed furniture for Frank Lloyd Wright and worked for Marion Mahony Griffin? - trying to include her on the same high level and make people curious about who she was.

ALT2 preferred, then original, ALT1a (modified) with hesitation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: I like that idea. I read that Mahony had a rift with Wright and never spoke to him again after they parted. Then she started her own firm. Imagine the moxy that took for a woman in 1900. After that she started a whole neighborhood in Australia. But I digress, Niedecken is an interesting sideman too. Bruxton (talk) 18:36, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Areas for Further Research/Development

Hi There! New to editing Wikipedia here, but I moved into a home with interiors designed by Niedecken earlier this year and just realized a Wikipedia page now exists. I'd be interested in helping flesh out the article a bit -- are there areas that the other authors had in mind for future research/development? Salient Edge (talk) 22:44, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]