Talk:Héctor Camacho Jr.

Citizenship

Camacho, Jr. was born when his father was 16 and living and fighting as an amateur in New York, so it would appear that the boy was born in New York. Regardless, Puerto Ricans are US citizens, so I have changed the "Nationality" in the Infobox. If Camacho often returned to San Juan to see grandparents, and his son was born there, a cited source should be added to support that content. A reliable source (RS) is needed for Camacho Jr's place of birth and mother's name. Parkwells (talk) 17:44, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Is it possible to subtract that Hector Camacho, Jr. (Aka "Machito") was born in San Juan, Puerto Rico and replace this with information from a www.mensjournal.com article that says that he was born in New York, New York?

Here is a link to the article which states that Hector Camacho, Jr.'s birthplace is New York, New York: https://www.mensjournal.com/features/hector-camachos-vida-macho-20130415/

The information is in paragraph 6 of this Men's Journal article. Hector is referred to by his nickname "Machito". It reads as follows:

"If that response to the news of the death of the man for whom you’ve been named seems a cool one, well, Macho wasn’t the warmest of fathers. He was 15 when he sired Machito with a girl named China in New York’s Spanish Harlem, and he took little or no hand in raising his son, leaving him in the projects when he quit New York to live in Florida and Puerto Rico. He’d have him down for a visit each summer, but disappeared the minute he got the boy settled at his beachfront condo in Isla Verde. “I’m 10 years old, and he’s gone for two days, going, ‘Here’s $100, get a burger,'” says Machito. “I think he did shit like that to toughen me up: locked me in a closet to see if I cried, or made me smoke a jay with him at nine." Thank you. Chabela7 (talk) 15:25, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

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 Reference provided is unclear

In the article you've provided, a story is told about 3 generations of Camachos: a grandfather, his son and his son's son. Unfortunately (for clarity sake) they were all given the same name. So when the article describes Macho as being born in this location and the other Macho as being born in that location, it becomes difficult to track who is who. This is exacerbated by the story-telling requirements of the Men's Journal article, which prevents the author from just saying "The second generation Camacho was born here" but instead, describes those items in a flowery, imprecise way:

"'Hector never shut up, he drive everyone crazy,' says Maria, now 73 and still living most of the year in the Spanish Harlem projects where she raised him. A nut-brown woman with firecracker eyes, she fled Hector Sr. when Macho was five and took him and his older sister to New York."

Whichever "Macho" is being described in the passage above was clearly not born in NYC, but moved there at the age of 5. But which Macho is this? It is likely the middle Macho, but you have to use the ages of the other people being described in the passage in order to determine who is being discussed. Finding the right information shouldn't be predicated on navigating through layers of added details -- in other words -- pulling the information from the article should be a straightforward affair, and not so much like pulling a tooth. I apologize that this is unclear to me, but in order for me to make the change, please provide a source where the information is less-obfuscated. Regards,  spintendo  19:55, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

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