Talk:Horses in East Asian warfare

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Further development[edit]

Perhaps some of the chapter headings in Johnson's Horses of the German Army in World War II suggest a useful framework for improving this article's coverage -- possibly helpful in terms of horses in any of the armies of East Asian warfare?

  • Suitability of different breeds?
  • Employment of horses?
  • Selection and training of personnel?
  • Supply in the field?
  • The veterinary service?
  • The remount system?

This was just a potentially plausible thought .... --Tenmei (talk) 20:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Equestrian statue[edit]

This heroic bronze honors Maeda Toshiie who rides astride a war horse carrying heavy burden. I am uncertain of its arguable relevance in the context of this article, so I'm posting it here where others may comment. --Tenmei (talk) 19:33, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm sure that it's not actually a 'heavy burden'. It's some sort of caparison or decoration. I've checked some of my books on feudal Japanese warfare and samurai arms and armour but haven't been able to find a name for it yet. Knyght27 (talk) 15:52, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
It is a Horo, a sort of silk balloon meant for protection against arrows

(talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:23, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Mongolia?[edit]

Shouldn't this article also include information on Mongolian horse warfare? Mongolia is more or less universally placed in the East Asia region. Semi-Lobster (talk) 02:28, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, in my opinion. Please feel free to add material which expands the scope of this article. --Tenmei (talk) 03:14, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I know that it wasn't sourced, but deleting the Mongolia section altogether was a bit hasty. Tagging it would have been a better solution. It's pretty obvious that with the exploits of Genghis Khan and his grandson Khublai Khan the Mongols' role in using horses in East Asian warfare shouldn't come into question. For God's sake they were reputed as the best mounted horse archers of the period. It's like questioning or asking for a source for the fact that armored tanks were used at all by Nazi Germany in World War II.--Pericles of AthensTalk 16:20, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Addition of the Mongolia section also deleted the entire section on Burma. An article like this one needs sources and the editor needs to learn how to do this properly. Montanabw(talk) 19:44, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

What kind of horses were the Chinese warhorses?[edit]

The article says: "The Chinese warhorses were culled from the vast herds roaming free on the grassy plains of northeastern China and the Mongolian plateau. The hardy Central Asian horses were generally short-legged with barrel chests." The "Central Asian horse" seems to be a description of the Mongolian horse, which is said to be the origin of most Chinese horse breeds (Chinese Guoxia), but the copy isn't clear. --BB12 (talk) 00:26, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Look at the source, it doesn't go any further than this, and we can't venture into WP:OR territory. Keep in mind that "breeds" as we understand horse breeds today really didn't exist until the 18th century. Before that, horse types were at best landrace breeds. Montanabw(talk) 04:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the responses and the edit. It is difficult to get information on Silk Road era horses. --BB12 (talk) 00:25, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
There's an anon IP doing a bunch of work on Mongolian horse; may be some useful sources over there. Montanabw(talk) 19:51, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for that :) --BB12 (talk) 18:12, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Domestication[edit]

The article says, "(Other than the domestic Mongolian horse, the wild Przewalski's Horse also living in that region has never been domesticated.)" This sentence makes no sense at all. I'm pretty sure it means that the "domestic Mongolian horse" is domesticated (of course!), and that wild Przewalski's horse has not, but there seems to be something else of importance here. --BB12 (talk) 00:28, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I'll tweak that; the theory that the Przewalski is an ancestor to the Mongolian horse has been disproven. This article could use some work, unfortunately I'm not the one with time or motivation to do it. Montanabw(talk) 04:30, 20 August 2014 (UTC)