Talk:Isaac Nathan

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians.

Judaism Low‑importance

	Judaism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Judaism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Judaism-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.JudaismWikipedia:WikiProject JudaismTemplate:WikiProject JudaismJudaism articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Australia: Sydney / History / Music Low‑importance

	Australia portal Isaac Nathan is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Sydney (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Australian history (assessed as Low-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject Australian music (assessed as Mid-importance).
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

Opera

This article falls within the scope of WikiProject Opera, a group writing and editing Wikipedia articles on operas, opera terminology, opera composers and librettists, singers, designers, directors and managers, companies and houses, publications and recordings. The project discussion page is a place to talk about issues and exchange ideas. New members are welcome!OperaWikipedia:WikiProject OperaTemplate:WikiProject OperaOpera articles

Untitled

More than good faith! Every Biography that I can find about Nathan states that Nathan had about 5 years voice and composition lessons with Corri. You are right: that doesn't really prove it. But having often used and quoted Nathan's book on singing it's impossible to believe that he could have written such a book on singing and the Bel canto technique without having had years of intensive lessons with someone like Corri. The book is just too good, as will as being technically complicated and informed - it is an important source: Cornelius Reid also quoted it regularly for his own books.--Ebrownless (talk) 11:31, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that the only source for this is Nathan's own entry about himself in Sainsbury's Music Dictionary of 1825 (an entry which is demonstrably unreliable in many other aspects). Although Nathan was (probably) apprenticed to Corri (and certainly worked in his business for a while) over a period, for much of that time Corri was in prison for debt or otherwise absent. When Robert Browning was taught singing by Nathan, Nathan's teaching methods were recalled by the poet as being extremely unorthodox, not based on the Italian tradition. Doubtless Nathan studied Corri's book -- but......--Smerus (talk) 17:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

PS My son was taught history by a descendant of Lempriere.--Smerus (talk) 17:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all the information - it's been interesting corresponding with you! We can leave it as you have reversed it - maybe more evidence will come up. What is the descendant's name? --Ebrownless (talk) 20:16, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with the article

Some examples: "indomitable refusal", "his second-rate musical abilities", "extraordinary life ended with an extraordinary death" (oh boy!) - these are peacock terms and POV, all presented as fact. "These not only in themselves diffused a spirit of philosemitism", "he undoubtedly paralleled himself", "Perhaps it was his early, heady success which led to him being profligate with money", "Nathan's glory days seemed over", "Nathan's two great enemies were debt and his own impetuosity" - the article has an unencylopedic tone and is full of speculation and vague wording. Hekerui (talk) 19:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Year of birth

I see 1792 in various places. Do we know for sure it was 1790? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:01, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Isaac Nathan. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071110114821/http://www.sydneysymphony.com/sysfiles/attachments/Nathan-Byron-DonJohn_RF_SSO.pdf to http://www.sydneysymphony.com/sysfiles/attachments/Nathan-Byron-DonJohn_RF_SSO.pdf

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 03:49, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Isaac Nathan. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090729033724/http://www.petersculthorpe.com.au/new_page_3.htm to http://www.petersculthorpe.com.au/new_page_3.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 01:05, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Isaac Nathan. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 08:30, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]