Talk:Jacinda

Requested move 19 October 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) Red Slash 08:06, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jacinda → Jacinda (disambiguation) – (and this page redirecting to Jacinda Ardern). The NZ Prime Minister is the primary topic, right now is one of the most famous and important people on the planet, and is likely to be the best-known Jacinda for a long time, in my view. A Google News search returns the first hit for somebody else, an obituary on Jacinda Barclay, after at least 30 pieces about Ardern. A straight Google search took me to page 4 before I found a reference to Jacinda Humphry. All of that spells out "primary topic" to me. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 12:20, 19 October 2020 (UTC)—Relisted. 2pou (talk) 15:42, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't seem like a good idea based on Google searches. I suspect the same process would produce a primary meaning for Boris right now. 98.143.79.179 (talk) 12:51, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, regarding page views over the past year, Ardern gets three times as many on average as Barrett and orders of magnitude more than Barclay. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 13:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment No opinion on if it should be moved. However, the title should not be Jacinda (disambiguation). Per MOS:DABNAME, this is not a disambiguation, but rather an anthroponymy list article. Per WP:APO/S, the title—if moved—should be Jacinda (given name).—Bagumba (talk) 06:57, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree. If the page is moved, it should be to Jacinda (given name). It's not a dab page. Station1 (talk) 07:05, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose unless there is evidence that she is referred to ubiquitously only as "Jacinda". —Xezbeth (talk) 07:10, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The main evidence is the concept of "Jacindamania" (sources here, here and here). Unlike similarly titled movements such as Milifandom, Corbynista or Moggmentum, it isn't "Ardern-Mania". Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:02, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Absolutely not. Jacinda Ardern is always referred to by her full name in reliable sources. As a similar example, Winston Churchill is undoubtedly the most famous Winston in history, but Winston doesn't redirect to him. Neither does Adolf redirect to Adolf Hitler (and he was often referred to just as Adolf!). Plus the Boris example above, of course (and he, likewise, is very often referred to just by his first name). -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:38, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. See also Barack, Osama and Saddam. -- Calidum 19:51, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose move per arguments above. She is not referred to primarily by her first name. O.N.R. ^(talk) 13:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose generally per the above, and due to the absence of actual ambiguity. BD2412 T 17:40, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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