Talk:John Wesley Powell

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I have added a sample of the 3D images taken by John Wesley Powell's 1872 Expedition. The image was painstakingly restored. Adverse conditions on the river, or maybe just time alone has shifted the emulsion brightness, causing drastic reduction in the quality of these old 3D images. Many appear on the USGS site, under Grand Canyon. This is the only one that has been restored to some degree of density balance. It looks quite good with the Red-Cyan glasses.3dnatureguy 06:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I expanded the caption for the image of Powell to include the name of Tau-gu a Paiute who is the second person with Powell in the image. I added a reference for this edit.--Dakota ~ ° 02:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

A question & a possible entry ...[edit]

In the first paragraph, "Morgan served as second director ...". Shouldn't that be "Powell" instead?

The film "Ten Who Dared", released 1 November 1960, by Walt Disney Productions is based on the journal of Major Powell. [1]

J. R. Madden (talk) 20:42, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


i made importance=mid, class=C, would be B but for belief section. Accotink2 (talk) 14:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Left or right[edit]

(Copied from WP:EAR)

Hello, The article on John Westly Powell says he lost part of an arm in the Battle of Shiloh (1862). The photo of Mr. Powell taken in 1871-1872 shows him using his left arm. However, the photo dated 1897 shows him without the left arm. Is this just the way one of the photos was reversed when reprinted? Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:30, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

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Well spotted - yes, it looks as if one of those photos has been reversed. The one online source doesn't say which arm was injured, but perhaps one of the book sources might clear it up. I am copying this thread to the article talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
I found a reference in the dedication of a book that specified it was his right hand that he lost. I noted it in the article. --Wazeez (talk) 18:23, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Should the photo be flipped then? Or is it wikimedia's policy to preserve the original orientation of the print? (Is it the original orientation?) Hoof Hearted (talk) 19:05, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you Leaflet! Hoof Hearted (talk) 18:29, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

When did the 1st journey ended?[edit]

Was it on August 13, 1869 or was it on August 30, 1869, as we are told after just five lines? אביהו (talk) 18:40, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

On August 13, the Powell party left the Little Colorado River confluence with the Colorado at the head of the Grand Canyon. On the 30th they were at the mouth of the Virgin River. The Major left the boats here on Sept 1 but some of the party continued down the Colorado. I changed it to the 30th. RRFWTommartin (talk) 21:03, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Lake Powell, a reservoir on the Colorado River, was named in his honor.[edit]

The quote Lake Powell, a reservoir on the Colorado River, was named in his honor may not be entirely accurate. Powell would certainly not be honored to have that lake named after him, he would have fought against the creation of Glenn Canyon Dam and the destruction of the township of Hite and the flooding of literally thousands of Indian sites which had not yet been cataloged by anthropologists. I'm not sure whether it was an honor or not, certainly the naming of the resulting lake was something of an insult. I suppose it's pointless to suggest changing that text. :) Probably. Damotclese (talk) 03:44, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Seems it was named after or for him, however the "honor" bit was overdone and as you say a bit dubious - so reworded and chopped some unneeded detail. Vsmith (talk) 13:31, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

The second Grand Canyon trip, maps, murder and the Report[edit]

Have added that the second Colorado River cruise of 1871-1872 ended at Kanab Creek, with 60 river miles of Grand Canyon yet remaining to be run. Those missing river miles include Separation Rapid, where the 1869 trip split up. I also added note that at least one historian noted the resulting maps were "impressionistic rather than precise." Also added writings exaggerations, recounting the 1869 events included that were 1870-1871 events, and lifejacket info. Also added additional murder info with ref's. RRFWTommartin (talk) 19:30, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

How does the life jacket info carry any substantial importance? It seems quite rational. Is this implying some kind of moral that he wore it while others did not? I suggest to either clarify the implied meaning of it, or just remove this detail, as insignificant. Otherwise why stop at the life jacket as one particular piece of clothing equipment, go ahead and elaborate on the rest like who wore socks, or underwear and who didn't.
Just my two cents. (talk) 00:17, 5 January 2017 (UTC).

Hi Two Cents, Thanks for your question. The life jacket info is important in that Powell does not mention he was wearing one. The next trip after his, the ill fated 1889 Stanton-Brown expedition, assumed that life jackets were not needed. Three men lost their lives on that trip, including Brown. Stanton came back in 1890 and everyone had life jackets. I see the mention to the possibility of the Mormon settlements killing the Howlands and Dunn has been removed too. Hmmm... Yours, tom RRFWTommartin (talk) 05:06, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Added Marston to the Ref List[edit]

Added Marston, Otis R., (2014). "From Powell To Power; A Recounting of the First One Hundred River Runners Through the Grand Canyon. Flagstaff, Arizona: Vishnu Temple Press, p. 111-114 ISBN 978-0990527022 to the Reference list. RRFWTommartin (talk) 02:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

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