Talk:Joseph Holt (rebel)

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Poorly or unreferenced material[edit]

Large blocks of unreferenced material is being repeatedly inserted into this article. This is contrary to policy. Please discuss potentially controversial edits here first. RashersTierney (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks all, especially Editing Author, Peter O'Shaughnessy (talk) for going to the trouble to finally after all these years since 2008 of encouragement from me as one of Joseph Holt (rebel)'s 4xGreat Grandchildren it is good to get Peter as active, concerned octagenarian involved. I therefore ask that other wikiEditors as RashersTierney (talk) Commented to Peter's initial Contributions, "To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or any other editor to proofread it." I've watched just how Peter's first foray into wikipedia would go & now that Peter's found that I'm not the only one who struggles with some of the apparent wikipedia "conflict of interest".
I therefore propose then that as it appears difficult, still for Peter to get started as per wikipedia standards, that we collectively, collaboratively via consensus work together to get what Peter's sought to convey, rendered into a more wikipedia NPOV?Respects to all in this critically important opportunity to actually get what Peter could contribute effectively onto wikipedia. Matthew (talk) 13:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


The image should be moved up to the lead.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:07, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

an Elizabethan Plantations of Ireland knight named Holt in Redcross?[edit]

My father, Lionel Fowler, Emailed me yesterday a pers comm regarding the Late "Sean 'Sonny' Holt was told by his grandfather who lived there, as did Sean, [his Late wife] Annie and children, that an Elizabethan knight named Holt was granted their family's O'Toole land at Redcross, County Wicklow, Ireland. Could you please trace this?" It apparently this Plantations of Ireland oral history may have come from Croften Croker's discredited Edition of "A Rum Story" but as I've not yet read that I don't know. Family Historian Ber Holt pers comm yesterday too seems to find that difficult to believe as the Holt families were apparently tenants in Wicklow, perhaps owning land in Dublin? Cheers, Matthew (talk) 19:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia article TPs are not the place for personal genealogical research. Please note WP:NOTFORUM. You might get some general pointers at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities. RashersTierney (talk) 19:50, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Joseph Holt colour portrait[edit]

Editor-Author Peter O'Shaughnessy has given copyright permission & provided a scanned copy of Joseph Holt's colour portrait. What are other wikiEditor's view/s for inclusion? File:JosephHolt.JPG Peter's view is that's a far better image

than the more recent etching Holt.png Matthew (talk) 04:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)