Talk:Joseph Kony

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Edit request on 24 December 2012[edit]

Please edit Joseph Kony page - In first paragraph where his ideology has mentioned to have Islam, but he claims to be establishing a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and local Acholi tradition so it seams it has nothing to do with Islamic tradition, Ideology AND/OR Islamic Law. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.136.25.82 (talk) 23:54, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done. At least one of the many sources in the footnote say the religion is "increasingly" integrating elements of Islam. Do you have reliable sources that counter the claim? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 01:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
It's BS, the only (pseudo) Islamic influence came when his fellow ICC fugitive General Bashir forced him to adopt some things but the Sudanese backing is long over. AND the religion (and the politics) plays a very small role nowadays, when they're reduced to very small bands of unideological pillagers (bandits, literally) hiding in the remote jungles and fighting for mere survival and generally not even in contact with Kony. The Japanese holdouts were more much more ideological than them, and only little less desperate (the LRA is degraded to this level: "Two LRA fighters were killed on Sunday by the Congolese army near the Congolese town of Dungu, but neither were found to have ammunition on them, (General Jean Claude) Kifwa said, adding that much insecurity in the region that has been blamed on the LRA has actually been carried out by local bandits." - and yes, it's true: "U.S. officials said that the intelligence picture is improving but that it is difficult to distinguish bogus reports from rare legitimate LRA sightings. They said villagers tend to blame Kony’s gang for all forms of banditry and crime, whether or not it was really responsible."). To say that the LRA remnants are "increasingly" anything more than tiny (and insignificant) gangs of unideological bandits dispersed over a huge territory and generally with no contact with their "command" (Kony even ceased using any radio communications, now when he's being hunted so much) and the other bands - it's ridiculous. The bottom line is that Joseph Kony today is only a literal bogeyman figure for the local people and the foreigners alike, while the real problems (and the real rebels) in the region are more or less ignored by the outside world (and the UN, and the U.S.). --Niemti (talk) 13:01, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
your analysis is all well and good for discussion on the talk page. however, none of the links you provided actually counter the claims we have by reliable sources nor calls the reliability of their analysis into question. We go by what the sources actually say WP:V / WP:OR -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:59, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
The "Muslim" thing was a reaction by the American Christians to Kony's self-made messianistic religion / personality cult being branded as a fundamentalist Christian. For the same reason, an issue of his former beliefs was skipped altogether by the IC in the Kony 2012 video (Russell is a born-again Christian). There was even some solidarity with the LRA for being "Christians" who "are fighting the Muslims in Sudan". Today, the pathetic remnant of Kony's group (which began as "Uganda People's Democratic Christian Army" and the "United Holy Salvation Army") is a relatively very small and extremely dispersed gang of pillagers (die-hard at their remaining core, but even they would probably surrender if offered an amnesty), looking mostly just for food, mostly not in contact with him at all, and not subscribing to neither any religion nor any real political ideology (that's including the Acholi nationalism, and they're not even mostly Acholis anymore). No, they're not "increasingly" adopting Islam, or anything else for that matter. --Niemti (talk) 15:33, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
You are citing Rush Limbaugh? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:07, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I believe it's this idiots's name. --Niemti (talk) 16:27, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Niemti, your arguments above are as TheRedPenOfDoom said all well and good, but they constitute OR and synth. The cites provided support the text, which is a referring to the LRA not specifically Kony, and only in the context of elements of a syncretic mix. I note you also removed it without providing an edit summary when the conversation here had not created a consensus.Number36 (talk) 03:25, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

LOL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.147.125.177 (talk) 16:09, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Fix small typo[edit]

I found a small typo in the "Religious Beliefs" section. The sentence beginning with "He is thought of have had many wives" should be changed to "He is thought to have had many wives".

Biography - Rebel Leader[edit]

At the end of the second paragraph of Biography/Rebel Leader, the text doesn't seem to be entirely neutral or written from a proper perspective: "..but there is still much to be done." Also the citation after that text seems to use a completely different style from what I've observed to be the norm. Apologies if this is all very unspecific; it's actually my first attempted contribution to the site.

Centreti (talk) 16:41, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I think it's supposed to be a quote, but it's not formatted properly nor is its referenced book. MrScorch6200 (talk | ctrb) 16:56, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2015[edit]

the religious movement that Joseph Kony follows may have roots in a Christian movement, but in truth is using the basis of Christianity and applying it to their local religion. The movement he believes is in no way linked to Protestant Christianity in which should be removed from the page 75.91.32.226 (talk) 22:05, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Stickee (talk) 23:41, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Kony a Protestant?[edit]

This article lists Joseph Kony's cult as 'Protestant'. 'Protestant' refers to the churches which separated from Rome over her heresies in the 16th century, and those which descend from the same, along with (albeit inaccurately) the Baptists/Anabaptists. - These 'denominations', movements and churches generally believe in the inspiration of the 66 books of the holy scriptures, that these 66 scriptures, (39 of the Old Testament, 27 of the New) are the Christian's ONLY authority for faith and practice, that the believer is saved and justified by grace through faith in the blood of the Lamb, wholly separated from the works of his hands.

Joseph Kony's cult is not based upon the bible, and it's doctrine in the vaguest sense of the term, it certainly is not 'protestant'. I would propose that this slur be removed. -Eli. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.30.23 (talk) 04:49, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Health rumors[edit]

Claims that Kony has hepatitis, AIDS, or some other kind of blood-borne disease seem to pop up on blogs and such, but I'm not aware of the issue receiving genuinely serious news coverage. Has anyone seen anything that's not tabloid-like but appears reliable to put such things to rest?