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kairouan is not a holy city

You should visit it before giving your opinion . Amy winhouse (talk) 08:06, 4 December 2016 (UTC)


I cannot really see how calling it a holy city isn't POV; saying that it is regarded as holy by Muslims is NPOV. What is the objection to the latter? --Phronima 17:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi:) Their is nothing wrong with the latter except that it is an unnecessary circumlocation. i would say holy city is a perfectly acceptable NPOV term IMO. It simply describes a class of cities, like beach resorts, administrative centres, pilgimage centres, etc. It is not making any judgement about the validity of the religion in question. Jerusalem, Mecca, Varanasi etc, etc, are holy cities in the sense that that is their role in the world. What sort of city is Oxford? It is a university city. What sort of city is Varanasi? It is a holy city. Maybe all Hindus are deluded but that is irrelevant. Jameswilson 23:08, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

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Holy city[edit]

The city is not universally considered a holy city by Muslims the way Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem are. Certainly there are local traditions about the city, which developed out of the city's unique history, and they should be mentioned. But it is rather exaggerating to phrase the lead the way Chesdovi did.VR talk 00:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I accept that there are many Muslims like yourself who are entitled to their own views on matters such as this, but The Middle East and North Africa 2003, published by Routledge in 2003, states unequivocally that it is a holy city for Muslims and the Hutchinson Encyclopedia 1996 Edition states very clearly that Kairouan "ranks after Mecca and Medina as a place of Muslim pilgrimage." I am only quoting the reliable sources we have on this, not your own takes on the matter. Chesdovi (talk) 00:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Nor did I exclude those sources, or delete them. I only included them in an NPOV manner. The reason being that there are a ton of books and literature (all RS) on Islam that don't claim Kairouan has a holy city. Of course, there are some, as you pointed out above, that do. So we include them in a neutral manner.VR talk 13:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
The fact that other books don't mention this city as holy is not a reason to exclue this word. If a book states that "Kairouan is not a holy city", then you have something to rely on. Until then, you cannot remove this important infomation. Where is it implied that the holy status of this city is the same as that of Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem? There is no source that says it: "attracted a large number of Muslims from various parts of the world, next only to Mecca and Medina." Chesdovi (talk) 00:43, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Founded by Tunisian Nomads or Arabs?[edit]

I am not knowledgeable about this city's history, but the intro paragraph looks a bit garbled and disagrees with the information in the History section. So which sources say it was founded by nomads? The external links all seem to say Arabs, except possibly the first. (Google did not have an interior view even after I changed it to English.)

-Sam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

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