Talk:Kirsten Flagstad

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Difficulties from WWII

The following section ("World War II and post-war difficulties") was recently (14 January, 2008) removed in its entirety. (Link to diff.)

In 1941, with the outbreak of World War II, Flagstad returned to Norway to be with her husband Henry Johansen and remained there throughout the war. She did not sing in Norway or any German occupied country during the war. Instead, she made a point of singing in Sweden and Switzerland. Her husband was arrested for war profiteering after the war because he had sold supplies to the Germans. He was already seriously ill and died shortly thereafter, whereupon his estate was impounded by the state. Although her own wartime record was free from controversy, Flagstad's return to Norway during the war and a certain political naiveté on her part created ill-feeling towards her, particularly in the United States where the Norwegian ambassador waged a relentless personal campaign against her. The columnist Walter Winchell also ran an ugly campaign against her; Melchior and Edward Johnson both refused to come to her aid. At a concert in Philadelphia, audience members threw stink-bombs at her. Conductor Arturo Toscanini, a strong anti-Fascist and anti-Nazi, chose Helen Traubel, rather than Flagstad, to sing opposite Lauritz Melchior in his radio broadcasts of Wagner at NBC.

I don't know the details, but I do know that residual bitterness after the war affected Flagstad's career, and I think that is relevant in the article. Elphion (talk) 23:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the absence of any comments, I am restoring some of this material. Elphion (talk) 06:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of the material above, User:Krankenhaus (who removed it) observes:
Large portions of this section (and others in the article) are plagiarized from the New Grove Dictionary of Music.
Elphion (talk) 06:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's been years since I looked at this article. But yes, I have a Ph.D. in musicology and am quite familiar with this artist. Unfortunately, this and many wikipedia articles on musicians and composers quote quite liberally from the New Grove Dictionary of Music or Grove Music Online, which contain professionally written articles. To include whole paragraphs such as the one I deleted is blatant plagiarism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krankenhaus (talk • contribs) 02:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't we view her WW2 decisions from the point of view of who she was - a proud and homesick Norwegian? Does anyone feel bad about Iraqis who returned home while their country was occupied by hostile US forces? How was she to know in 1941 what everyone came to know in 1945?86.42.221.153 (talk) 20:27, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Vague or missing attributions and references

This is a good article, but it is diminished by vague attributions and controversial statements that are unreferenced. e.g.

1. "According to most critics, she still remains the supreme Wagnerian dramatic soprano on disc by virtue of her unique voice." Which critics?

2. "It has been said that she saved the Metropolitan Opera from looming bankruptcy." Probably true but who said it.

3. "Flagstad got involved in a long-running feud with tenor co-star Lauritz Melchior after Melchior took offense to some comments Flagstad made about "stupid publicity photos" . . .". From McArthur? It should be referenced. --Klein zach 02:00, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "Heine" Settings of the "Four Last Songs"?

In discussing Flagstad's tackling the "Four Last Songs", the author talks about the difficulty of the Heine settings. Three of the four songs are settings of poems by Hermann Hesse and the fourth is a setting of a poem by Joseph von Eichendorff, so "Heine" couldn't possibly be correct Raaronson (talk) 21:30, 16 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]

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