Talk:List of discontinued Volkswagen Group diesel engines
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45hp 1.05
[edit]This section is imported from talk:list of discontinued Volkswagen Group petrol engines, which was posted before the articles were split.
I think the carb version had slightly less torque, higher up, and achieved it's peak power at higher rpm (5600 vs 5200) than the later SPi model, but I haven't time/resource to check properly for now so i'm leaving it. It's only a tiny thing after all.
Also while I'm being pedantic, would the EA111 diesels really have had a 'carburettor, then L-jetronic/monomotronic injection' fuel system? Diesels don't entirely work that way as far as I was aware. For super pedant bonus, the compressor in the G40 should be a '40mm G-lader supercharger' (the G-lader bit possibly being a trademark/trade name, so not needing an english translation).
You are right in both cases. I´ve forgotten to change the thinks. But´I don´t really know, what an Verteilerpumpe is named in english. The carburretor version of the 1.05 is different to the monomo´s. In the latest version is named 33kW/ 5600 69Nm/3200 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.64.228.100 (talk) 09:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ahh... yes, sounds likely. As for Verteilerpumpe... puzzling. Injector-pump, as in some prototype version of the Pumpe-Duse? I'm not well up enough on diesel engines to give any serious suggestions, but i'm pretty sure even the oldest hot-bulb types used injectors (even if they were primitive) as a means of getting the fuel in.
- Incidentally as another note, we seem to be missing the "1.4" (1398cc? 1408?) diesel that my old Polo manual lists as being available. Unfortunately that's now DEEP in a cupboard somewhere and I've lost the ability to rattle the figures off the top of my head - but the capacity was somewhere between 1350 and 1450cc, power output 48PS at 4000 (4500?) rpm, and ??? maximum torque (it wasn't actually very impressive vs the 1.3 petrol!) somewhere around 2000-2500rpm. Sounds like a fairly unpleasant-to-drive engine even compared to the 1043cc petrol, but did give pretty impressive economy, something like 70mpg on the combined cycle... for a car made in 1991 and shaped like a broken brick.
- Finally I'm pretty sure the 1.05, 1.1 and 1.3 petrols ended up in some Golf variants in the early 80s as well as the Polos, until it was realised they were just too underpowered? It was an age of ludicrously weak powerplants in surprisingly large cars after all (though we're edging back that way with 40-ish kW motors in Polos that have taken on the size and weight of previous generations of Golf!)
- PS - any mileage in including the prototype Oko Polo 848cc 2-cylinder turbodiesel (superdiesel??) motor? 40PS at 4000rpm is about all the spec I remember, that and a supposed <3L/100km consumption. In 1983. 193.63.174.10 (talk) 11:17, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- 'VerteilerPumpe' (often abbreviated to VP) is simply a rotary diesel injector pump, sometimes called a 'distributor pump', becuase it resembles the configuration of an ignition distributor. These VP diesels were used before VAG introdued the 'Pumpe Düse' (PD) engines with Unit Injector technology. VP injection was a completely different system, and could not be described as a 'prototype' for the PD system. HTH. 78.32.143.113 (talk) 10:31, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
power figures?
[edit]This pages contains probably misunderstandings and PS values written with power measured in hp. I;m not sure about all engines, but for example CY engine with 51 kW has got 70 KM (which is equal 70 PS) according to some sources (see http://wapedia.mobi/pl/Volkswagen_Golf_I)
- ETKA definately lists the CY engine as 51kW. 78.32.143.113 (talk) 10:18, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
R4 vs I4
[edit]R4 and R3 seem like odd headings to use for the engines. "R" stands for reihe, the German word for inline. I would think that "I4" and "I3" would be more logical headings for the various engines. Unless, of course, this has already been discussed. Also, the engine data should really be compressed into more legible tables, which would also make the page quite a bit shorter. →Mr.choppers← (talk) 17:33, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- No I don't believe this was discussed before the edits were made. I agree that R3, R4 etc. aren't commonly used in English and thus are maybe not the most appropriate nomenclature to use here (and in any case are mostly redundant in section headings as the article is organised by number of cylinders). Note that the other "List of ... Volkswagen Group ... engines" articles were similarly edited by the same user. The table idea is interesting but would be a lot of work. Letdorf (talk) 19:27, 22 June 2010 (UTC).
AGK is a direct injection engine
[edit]The AGK-engine (2.8 R4 12v TD 92kW) hasn't a indirect injection, the article is wrong, look:
http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_197.PDF "Direkteinspritzung mit mechanisch geregelter Verteilereinspritzpumpe"
Steftn (talk) 21:05, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
AEY engine is missing
[edit]AEY diesel engine is fitted (at minimum) in SEAT cordoba 1,9 SDI SE (<1999). 64 HP. link in english page "SEAT Córdoba" sends here but finally no info to be found on this engine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magouero (talk • contribs) 21:24, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Interference engines
[edit]Which ones are interference engine and which ones aren't ? --Jerome Potts (talk) 08:31, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
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